Also consider that TK was the first to hop onto the L_McD wagon. Not exactly sure if that's a scumtell or a towntell, though.
It's a scumtell. The first person to hop on a wagon is always mafia. I mean, it could never be anything more than a mafia member just jumping on.
I cannot wait to see this post about me.
Here we go on my posts as to why I haven't liked Lord_McD and thus why p_b looks weird to me. I don't expect you to answer any of these p_b, but you asked for my list!
- I don't like TK's vote on me, and not just because it's me, he's not interested in a lynch, he doesn't want me to claim, so why is he voting me?
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- The whole thing about my wagon seemed...off, I get my post comes off as scummy, but for a of people to vote, agree that quick lynching someone is a bad idea, and they may or may not be generally interested in voting me, comes off as stranger and far more esoteric than my response.
As I noted earlier, Lord_McD paraphrases rather than quotes me here. By doing so, it's incredibly bad looking. It allows him to twist what I say without it actually look like he's doing any twisting. Then within the same post, he says he understands but then fails to understand any of the reasoning.
/Vote Annorax, his posts have had less content than mine (not an easy feat frankly), and his last post was simply bizarre (see below), I know that he hasn't played in a while supposedly (or at least that what was implied by the signup thread), but I'm not sure if that makes me want to vote him more or give him the benefit of the doubt.
Man, look at that fence-sitting. "He seems scummy, but he might not be!"
Both are scummy, but one (TK) I'm more sure of. I have this bad gut feeling on Annorax ending up like iRebel, but I'm still willing to lynch him.
I have felt strongest about an Annorax lynch. I have withheld my vote because I didn't want a quick end to the day. TK has given me some weird vibes in his post, but i couldn't nail down a specific 'horrible post'. I turned up this series that I previously outlined which especially stood out as odd to me (next spoiler) and others already outlined by other players. The interaction between him and PB seems awkward as well.
I'm not saying that's the case here, but I'd like to be more sure before we move along.
How "sure" would you like to be? How are you measuring this sure-ness? Are you willing to bite the bullet even if you aren't sure?
I'm sure this doesn't sound right to me... What was the sense of urgency coming from? Ending the day swiftly doesn't benefit the town. He was still hunting when you gave him the hurry-up.
Ok, so that's a case I feel pretty comfortable on... Oh wait, there's one last thing, you replaced Trabant, who was really bad too.
. What concerns me about Annorax, though, is his lack of posting defense. I would at least want to hear some explanation even if someone dissects it and debunks it. His lack of defense seems that he has either just checked out and doesn't care or he is scum and feels he got caught. So, he is either scum or a non-helpful townie at this point.
Had about a 3-hr delay from when I began this post and now...work got busy. I just read latest post:
It still screams Annorax is scum to me, but "living on borrowed time" is a good summation. I'll do another reread of TK. The only concern I had now after Annorax's last post is that he is scum, TK might not be and Annorax is happy to be dodging a noose. Distancing seems more likely though. Although I think I am more confident in an Annorax lynch, it seems ok to move forward in this direction.
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MTG~DDS, the former is what makes me so unsure about Annorax. Call it the "you're so scummy you can't be scum" mentality. I think that TK-421 and Annorax are still scum together.
Does anyone know a game which Annorax completed?
Nyxu, please stop active lurking.
Well, TK-421 actually has a scum meta now, so if I have time I'll go look at that.
TK, you can't scum read someone for joking about being scum and be sarcastic about being scum yourself in the same post. doesn't look good.
I'm feeling better about W_G and more interested in a TK lynch.
Vote: TK-421
I can do whatever I want. I'm eccentric!
And in response to your future thought of "Well, that will get you lynched." You've missed the point then. What about EVERY OTHER PERSON who has started a wagon? I never said that _I_ was scum. I just said that it was a scumtell to be the first to hop on a wagon. Now, if you have an actual complaint about that, like the fact that I'm completely lying about it being a scumtell, then come at me, but otherwise, come talk to me when you have something.
You've never expressed any read on TK prior to this.
I'm pretty sure this is the worst distancing attempt I've ever seen that I didn't attempt myself.
I haven't expressed much of anything other than gut feelings up to this point. I don't have the kind of behavioral analysis skills you have... you pick up on things that I tend to miss. My read on TK is that he's scum, but that's just gut feelings. I have my reads, I have my feelings about people, but if I try to explain them, someone's just going to pick up on cues that aren't there & call me scum.
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You've never expressed any read on TK prior to this.
I'm pretty sure this is the worst distancing attempt I've ever seen that I didn't attempt myself.
I haven't expressed much of anything other than gut feelings up to this point. I don't have the kind of behavioral analysis skills you have... you pick up on things that I tend to miss. My read on TK is that he's scum, but that's just gut feelings. I have my reads, I have my feelings about people, but if I try to explain them, someone's just going to pick up on cues that aren't there & call me scum.
People are already doing that. What are your reads and feelings about people?
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You've never expressed any read on TK prior to this.
I'm pretty sure this is the worst distancing attempt I've ever seen that I didn't attempt myself.
I haven't expressed much of anything other than gut feelings up to this point. I don't have the kind of behavioral analysis skills you have... you pick up on things that I tend to miss. My read on TK is that he's scum, but that's just gut feelings. I have my reads, I have my feelings about people, but if I try to explain them, someone's just going to pick up on cues that aren't there & call me scum.
Color me skeptical. You're already seen as scum by most.
Full disclosure: I have recently switched raid teams and because of heroic progression my free time for mafia has been pushed aside beyond the point where I'm mentally fatigued. I've been phone posting in this and my other game and I have trouble keeping up when sixty posts per page means mass, nested quotewalls.
Wg and annorax are both stupid levels of sure. I'm not nearly as loud and angry as I was in vanilla mafia two but ill take wgs comment as a wash. I have cause enough to believe that annorax is scum based off of his case and reaction to it (and that absurd tk vote ) that once I double check the vote count I'll likely vote him
As for tk I just don't get a scum vibe off of him.
The attacks on incognito must be something I missed because they feel sudden and off kilter
For the love of toast, pinkie, I can love and tolerate all day long but not typing "y" or "o" when using the second person "you" is just unforgivable.
TK, you can't scum read someone for joking about being scum and be sarcastic about being scum yourself in the same post. doesn't look good.
I'm feeling better about W_G and more interested in a TK lynch.
Vote: TK-421
I can do whatever I want. I'm eccentric!
And in response to your future thought of "Well, that will get you lynched." You've missed the point then. What about EVERY OTHER PERSON who has started a wagon? I never said that _I_ was scum. I just said that it was a scumtell to be the first to hop on a wagon. Now, if you have an actual complaint about that, like the fact that I'm completely lying about it being a scumtell, then come at me, but otherwise, come talk to me when you have something.
The context is what pointed to you "joking about being scum." It was brought up that something you did may or may not have been a scum tell by Incognito. You volunteered that it was a scum tell, which in turn, admits that you think what you did was a scum tell. It does appear to be in a joking manner but as Swishh pointed out, your two statements directly contradict themselves. You can't joke about being scum, and then condemn someone for doing the same...in the same post! Starting the wagon was not what Swishh called you out for. The contradiction was.
You've never expressed any read on TK prior to this.
I'm pretty sure this is the worst distancing attempt I've ever seen that I didn't attempt myself.
I haven't expressed much of anything other than gut feelings up to this point. I don't have the kind of behavioral analysis skills you have... you pick up on things that I tend to miss. My read on TK is that he's scum, but that's just gut feelings. I have my reads, I have my feelings about people, but if I try to explain them, someone's just going to pick up on cues that aren't there & call me scum.
People are already doing that. What are your reads and feelings about people?
Ran short on time earlier...finishing up this thought.
@Annorax: I want your reads. Even on me for that matter, as Incognito was asking. Keeping them to yourself is not good for the town at all. At best, your reads and explanations will help your case. At worst, you are still lynched, but you have given us info that can then possibly be helpful. Even if you do get lynched and flip town, what information do you leave us with? Currently nothing. Right now, even if you are Vanilla Town as you have claimed, you are viewed as dispensable because you are not giving input to help catch scum.
Because TK is scum, Annorax is scum, and MRH is scum, and none of them are really interacting with the others much.
You cite them not interacting as part of your case against them. Would any of them flipping town change anything to that read or is their distancing a main part of your read? How do you feel about Nyxu?
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[You cite them not interacting as part of your case against them. Would any of them flipping town change anything to that read or is their distancing a main part of your read?
Not really. They are all scum independently, the lack of interactions are just gravy.
How do you feel about Nyxu?
I am not terribly good at reading Nyxu. He's town by POE, currently.
But yeah, Nyxu feels like how I remember in Vanilla Mafia. If he continues to lurk I'll have problems with him but for now I don't think he's scum.
@WG: as a follow up, Posts: 393 & 417 still seems lurky to me. Does his Explanation of RL events earn him a pass? Other than lurky, not enough content for me to feel one way or the other. What are your current feelings on him?
You don't have to answer this again...I just saw your post right before submitting this.
[You cite them not interacting as part of your case against them. Would any of them flipping town change anything to that read or is their distancing a main part of your read?
Not really. They are all scum independently, the lack of interactions are just gravy.
How do you feel about Nyxu?
I am not terribly good at reading Nyxu. He's town by POE, currently.
@W_G, do you have any real accusations? Something beyond "He's weird and doesn't interact"? I mean, at least Incognito has "He's badposting", which at least I could respond to. Lastly, I'm not sure what you mean by not interacting with others. Do you mean I'm not questioning as much as you'd like?
There's absolutely nothing that you've done to make me think you are town. You certainly aren't questioning enough, especially your buddies.
You haven't done anything for me to question.
Does this mean that WG is absolutely town in your mind? You didn't ever address post 362 (though true, I technically didn't ask you a question.) What was the purpose of speeding Polski along in the voting process of the last lynch?
Unvote, vote pinky's brain. I'm with TK, p_b is just stirring anything said to stop real analysis.
I fail to see how PB is not giving "real analysis." If you disagree and feel that it is wrong or scum-motivated, disprove it. Post some follow up other than what seems to be a handwave and an OMGUS vote. I saw no answers to any questions posed to you, only the reaction to the incorrect (also as admitted by PB to be incorrect) accusation of "bemoaning iRebel". What do you feel about the current wagons on Annorax and TK?
@MRHpost 111 I don’t like this post. Empty noise with no pressure or questions.
MRH post 162 how was sixed post fence sitting?
He makes an accusation about half the people in the game then votes for someone due to not posting. Its a non-focused vote to not get called out for not voting while slinging at half the game.
PB cased Annorax and placed a vote. I don't see an empty vote there. What you referred to as "making accusations about half the people in the game" was calling out odditities in other players posts. I saw no actual accusations of other players there other than you an Annorax, only commentary on posts of interest to her.
MRH post 162 how was sixed post fence sitting?
MRH post 313 this reads as a smear based on night kill to me.
Post 321 from MRH is more pushing of WIFOM of the night kill against WG.
MRH: Do you know that scum kill people to create WIFOM?
What I do see is 2 unanswered questions. One appears rhetorical though.
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TK, you can't scum read someone for joking about being scum and be sarcastic about being scum yourself in the same post. doesn't look good.
I'm feeling better about W_G and more interested in a TK lynch.
Vote: TK-421
I can do whatever I want. I'm eccentric!
And in response to your future thought of "Well, that will get you lynched." You've missed the point then. What about EVERY OTHER PERSON who has started a wagon? I never said that _I_ was scum. I just said that it was a scumtell to be the first to hop on a wagon. Now, if you have an actual complaint about that, like the fact that I'm completely lying about it being a scumtell, then come at me, but otherwise, come talk to me when you have something.
No, you can't do "whatever you want" and definitely not because of your self-proclaimed eccentricity. First of all, it's NOT a scumtell to be the second person to vote someone. Second, your use of the term "wagon" here is sketchy. A wagon is a rapid succession of votes on one person. The second person who votes someone doesn't necessarily know if a wagon will ensue. Town and scum can equally be wagoned, and scum can join a wagon on another scum to bus. Everything you said is totally void.
@MRHpost 111 I don’t like this post. Empty noise with no pressure or questions.
MRH post 162 how was sixed post fence sitting?
He makes an accusation about half the people in the game then votes for someone due to not posting. Its a non-focused vote to not get called out for not voting while slinging at half the game.
PB cased Annorax and placed a vote. I don't see an empty vote there. What you referred to as "making accusations about half the people in the game" was calling out odditities in other players posts. I saw no actual accusations of other players there other than you an Annorax, only commentary on posts of interest to her.
MRH is answering the question I asked about Sixed in the quote above. The answer really doesn't say how that is fence sitting.
Annorax continues to be scum in my book.
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Also consider that TK was the first to hop onto the L_McD wagon. Not exactly sure if that's a scumtell or a towntell, though.
It's a scumtell. The first person to hop on a wagon is always mafia. I mean, it could never be anything more than a mafia member just jumping on.
I cannot wait to see this post about me.
Here we go on my posts as to why I haven't liked Lord_McD and thus why p_b looks weird to me. I don't expect you to answer any of these p_b, but you asked for my list!
- I don't like TK's vote on me, and not just because it's me, he's not interested in a lynch, he doesn't want me to claim, so why is he voting me?
- The whole thing about my wagon seemed...off, I get my post comes off as scummy, but for a of people to vote, agree that quick lynching someone is a bad idea, and they may or may not be generally interested in voting me, comes off as stranger and far more esoteric than my response.
As I noted earlier, Lord_McD paraphrases rather than quotes me here. By doing so, it's incredibly bad looking. It allows him to twist what I say without it actually look like he's doing any twisting. Then within the same post, he says he understands but then fails to understand any of the reasoning.
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Lets for the sake of argument, quote what you said that Lord was referring to:
/Vote Annorax, his posts have had less content than mine (not an easy feat frankly), and his last post was simply bizarre (see below), I know that he hasn't played in a while supposedly (or at least that what was implied by the signup thread), but I'm not sure if that makes me want to vote him more or give him the benefit of the doubt.
Man, look at that fence-sitting. "He seems scummy, but he might not be!"
Yeah it is a bad comment, but I made a case when I came into this game, which you pretty much just ignored.
Can you explain why?
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I got you and Magenta confused with the bemoaned iRebel post. The rest is you sitting on a vote.
And that is pretty much OMGUS with following another person without making your own point added. I noticed you completely dodged my question about who was scum and why. Any reason you are not discussing your full scum reads?
I was not dodging, I didnt have the time to post them. As for sitting on the vote, I didn't see anything to make me move.
The collective logic saying I'm scum quite frankly makes little sense.
2. If I were scum, why on EARTH would I use my first big post to call someone out? From a scum mentality, wouldn't I want to take a lower key approach at first? Settle back and slowly work my way into the fold? Doing so would keep my profile lower. Lower profile works better, imo, for lowering scum suspicion than jumping right in like I did.
No, it would not. You read that you were being read scum, and had to throw a hay-maker to get back into the game as a town read.
Why did you have nothing to say about the Annorax case?
I don't have much to add, he looks pretty scummy, plenty of other people are casing him, if we decide to lynch him we will probably get scum and/or good info.
Seems like a joke. I find it hard to believe anyone could be so.. I guess there's no fitting word other than stupid, is there? So stupid that they'd intentionally allude to their status as scum. It's worth noting that in this hypothetical scenario, it would have to be intentional. To read it as a slip is... comical.
My vote is still on LMD and this is why. Its not a slip, hes just yelling "I'm town" way too loud for my liking. Combined with a relative lack of posting is avoiding real confrontation.
Alright. These are things I felt like pointing out. My vote would go to Annorax if he wasn't already so close to a lynch, so in light of that, I'm holding my vote. No reason to end the day, there's plenty we still need to discuss.
So no analyisis of the player who would be your vote?
I really see Trabant777 just as new(kinda bad) town, but maybe I am just naive.
The collective logic saying I'm scum quite frankly makes little sense.
2. If I were scum, why on EARTH would I use my first big post to call someone out? From a scum mentality, wouldn't I want to take a lower key approach at first? Settle back and slowly work my way into the fold? Doing so would keep my profile lower. Lower profile works better, imo, for lowering scum suspicion than jumping right in like I did.
No, it would not. You read that you were being read scum, and had to throw a hay-maker to get back into the game as a town read.
I find it interesting the change and attack (weak attack that it is) happens as iRebel accumulates votes.
OR the replacment made a move I thought looked scummy and I changed my opinion.
Reads (1 is town, 5 is scum)
4- pinky's brain - Looks like hes hunting, but more just slinging
4- Annorax - Big wagon for obvious reasons
Null - Cantripmancer - no content to judge
3 - MTG~DDS looked a little scummy early, seems to be increasing hunting
2 - Swishh hunting and pressuring people hard
3+ -Nyxu - active lurking, much like Sixed was
3 - Wheat_Grinder - I thought he was playing a very good scum game, now not so sure
2- Incognito - looks town, good questions.
4 -TK-421 - Looks a lot worse toDay, questionable plays etc.
If people are sick of reading about stuff just stop taking part. You have 100% control over what you read. Simic Ascendancy isn't going to get banned just because you didn't tell someone to shut up on the internet.
Thing is I really don't want more info in the thread before we have to on the small chance that TK is town.
I'd rather lynch Rax today because "Die, Scum, Die!" pretty much confirmed him scum.
I think I got what you meant, but please rephrase...that first sentence seems oddly worded. Not in any kind of suspicious way, just hard to understand.
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@MRHpost 111 I don’t like this post. Empty noise with no pressure or questions.
MRH post 162 how was sixed post fence sitting?
He makes an accusation about half the people in the game then votes for someone due to not posting. Its a non-focused vote to not get called out for not voting while slinging at half the game.
PB cased Annorax and placed a vote. I don't see an empty vote there. What you referred to as "making accusations about half the people in the game" was calling out odditities in other players posts. I saw no actual accusations of other players there other than you an Annorax, only commentary on posts of interest to her.
MRH is answering the question I asked about Sixed in the quote above. The answer really doesn't say how that is fence sitting.
Annorax continues to be scum in my book.
Thanks for clarification. That makes sense.
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I got you and Magenta confused with the bemoaned iRebel post. The rest is you sitting on a vote.
And that is pretty much OMGUS with following another person without making your own point added. I noticed you completely dodged my question about who was scum and why. Any reason you are not discussing your full scum reads?
I was not dodging, I didnt have the time to post them. As for sitting on the vote, I didn't see anything to make me move.
Let see the Annorax case, the weak attack on Sixed, the fact that Lord Mc went over your case and made a point:
]Only 10 people had posted and there was not much real content available yet. People posted after that with RVS activity, it was not over..... Maybe he thought RVS was going, but that's still pretty strange, early or not.
I'm confuzzeled.
You acknowledge that people were still posting as if it were RVS (which with the exception of me answering the question, all my posts were).
You also acknowledge that my post was a reference to the Tootsie pop commercial (for reference)
so somehow my post was not a rvs post?
@Magenta, I cameo'd in 66 (Haruhi Suzumiya) and was in #71 until recently.
Which you never responded to and still kept you vote on him from something that happened in the first 2 pages of the game.
The collective logic saying I'm scum quite frankly makes little sense.
2. If I were scum, why on EARTH would I use my first big post to call someone out? From a scum mentality, wouldn't I want to take a lower key approach at first? Settle back and slowly work my way into the fold? Doing so would keep my profile lower. Lower profile works better, imo, for lowering scum suspicion than jumping right in like I did.
No, it would not. You read that you were being read scum, and had to throw a hay-maker to get back into the game as a town read.
So one comment made iRebel scum? Something you didn't even agree with and you read him as coming in panicing? How does that make sense?
Why did you have nothing to say about the Annorax case?
I don't have much to add, he looks pretty scummy, plenty of other people are casing him, if we decide to lynch him we will probably get scum and/or good info.
Seems like a joke. I find it hard to believe anyone could be so.. I guess there's no fitting word other than stupid, is there? So stupid that they'd intentionally allude to their status as scum. It's worth noting that in this hypothetical scenario, it would have to be intentional. To read it as a slip is... comical.
My vote is still on LMD and this is why. Its not a slip, hes just yelling "I'm town" way too loud for my liking. Combined with a relative lack of posting is avoiding real confrontation.
Alright. These are things I felt like pointing out. My vote would go to Annorax if he wasn't already so close to a lynch, so in light of that, I'm holding my vote. No reason to end the day, there's plenty we still need to discuss.
So no analyisis of the player who would be your vote?
I really see Trabant777 just as new(kinda bad) town, but maybe I am just naive.
The collective logic saying I'm scum quite frankly makes little sense.
2. If I were scum, why on EARTH would I use my first big post to call someone out? From a scum mentality, wouldn't I want to take a lower key approach at first? Settle back and slowly work my way into the fold? Doing so would keep my profile lower. Lower profile works better, imo, for lowering scum suspicion than jumping right in like I did.
No, it would not. You read that you were being read scum, and had to throw a hay-maker to get back into the game as a town read.
I find it interesting the change and attack (weak attack that it is) happens as iRebel accumulates votes.
OR the replacment made a move I thought looked scummy and I changed my opinion.
A weak attack, without really explaining a thing. Like your doing right now.
You don't explain what changed or why. You stuck with a vote on a player after he explained himself to you and kept it there because he disappeared (OMG only you can disappear and not comment much in the game. :rolleyes:)
By the way the above is me being a jerk, but I hate hypocrisy.
Here is a good question. If you agreed with TK so much about his case maybe you can answer the question he hasn't:
What in this post is distracting from scum hunting?
You are saying I'm slinging? What does that mean?
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MTG~DDS, pinkys_brain, are we lynching Annorax or TK-421 today?
I have felt more confident about Annorax lynch so far, but after pulling at some inconsistencies, I feel better about a TK lynch. I think either is safe. I would really like some input from Annorax before we lynch, but that doesn't seem like that will happen.
Also, should we wait for input for Cantripmancer (or whoever is going to replace him?)
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Thing is I really don't want more info in the thread before we have to on the small chance that TK is town.
I'd rather lynch Rax today because "Die, Scum, Die!" pretty much confirmed him scum.
I think I got what you meant, but please rephrase...that first sentence seems oddly worded. Not in any kind of suspicious way, just hard to understand.
There exists a small possibility that I am incorrect about TK. Because I am pretty certain about Annorax being scum, I don't want TK to claim as a result of that small possibility until tomorrow, when Annorax will have been lynched (if I get my way) and TK will be the best candidate for a D2 lynch.
MTG~DDS, pinkys_brain, are we lynching Annorax or TK-421 today?
I have felt more confident about Annorax lynch so far, but after pulling at some inconsistencies, I feel better about a TK lynch. I think either is safe. I would really like some input from Annorax before we lynch, but that doesn't seem like that will happen.
Also, should we wait for input for Cantripmancer (or whoever is going to replace him?)
Ugh, this is exactly the response I don't want. You know what happens when we say "I'm fine with either dying"?
The collective logic saying I'm scum quite frankly makes little sense.
2. If I were scum, why on EARTH would I use my first big post to call someone out? From a scum mentality, wouldn't I want to take a lower key approach at first? Settle back and slowly work my way into the fold? Doing so would keep my profile lower. Lower profile works better, imo, for lowering scum suspicion than jumping right in like I did.
No, it would not. You read that you were being read scum, and had to throw a hay-maker to get back into the game as a town read.
So one comment made iRebel scum? Something you didn't even agree with and you read him as coming in panicing? How does that make sense?
You asked where I said he was scum, I posted the reference. What do you mean I didn't agree with it, I posted it.
Why did you have nothing to say about the Annorax case?
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I don't have much to add, he looks pretty scummy, plenty of other people are casing him, if we decide to lynch him we will probably get scum and/or good info.
How nice you keep avoiding voting him.
Hes not lynched, some people are not voting him. There is a lot of other good information to be found toDay. Why the push for a quicklynch?
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I find it interesting the change and attack (weak attack that it is) happens as iRebel accumulates votes.
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OR the replacment made a move I thought looked scummy and I changed my opinion.
A weak attack, without really explaining a thing. Like your doing right now.
You don't explain what changed or why. You stuck with a vote on a player after he explained himself to you and kept it there because he disappeared (OMG only you can disappear and not comment much in the game. :rolleyes:)
By the way the above is me being a jerk, but I hate hypocrisy.
I didn't keep it there just because he disappeared. He was shouting from the rooftops "IM TOWN" from a little pressure.
I know you are being a jerk, its real helpful too.
Here is a good question. If you agreed with TK so much about his case maybe you can answer the question he hasn't:
What in this post is distracting from scum hunting?
You are saying I'm slinging? What does that mean?
Thats not the only post you have made since entering the game. You keep rehashing answered questions to try and get something to stick. Maybe thats a tactic of yours, but it looks bad.
If people are sick of reading about stuff just stop taking part. You have 100% control over what you read. Simic Ascendancy isn't going to get banned just because you didn't tell someone to shut up on the internet.
@W_G, do you have any real accusations? Something beyond "He's weird and doesn't interact"? I mean, at least Incognito has "He's badposting", which at least I could respond to. Lastly, I'm not sure what you mean by not interacting with others. Do you mean I'm not questioning as much as you'd like?
There's absolutely nothing that you've done to make me think you are town. You certainly aren't questioning enough, especially your buddies.
You haven't done anything for me to question.
Does this mean that WG is absolutely town in your mind? You didn't ever address post 362 (though true, I technically didn't ask you a question.) What was the purpose of speeding Polski along in the voting process of the last lynch?
Oh! Sorry, I accidentally read over the question (it happens a lot). Speeding Polski along wasn't the intent. The intent was to see if he was completely wishy-washy or not. When he was saying "I'd like to be sure" I wanted to know just how sure he would need to be. As an example, W_G is a good example of knowing how sure he needs to be. I can see just how willing he is to lynch who he's after. What I didn't want was Polski saying "Well, I was only 95% sure, so that's why I didn't vote obvscum *whistles innocently*".
As for W_G, I'm not positive, but you'd be hard-pressed to get me to vote for him toDay or toMorrow. We'd need some really good arguments, and I don't think there is any. I'd put my surety at 90%.
TK, you can't scum read someone for joking about being scum and be sarcastic about being scum yourself in the same post. doesn't look good.
I'm feeling better about W_G and more interested in a TK lynch.
Vote: TK-421
I can do whatever I want. I'm eccentric!
And in response to your future thought of "Well, that will get you lynched." You've missed the point then. What about EVERY OTHER PERSON who has started a wagon? I never said that _I_ was scum. I just said that it was a scumtell to be the first to hop on a wagon. Now, if you have an actual complaint about that, like the fact that I'm completely lying about it being a scumtell, then come at me, but otherwise, come talk to me when you have something.
No, you can't do "whatever you want" and definitely not because of your self-proclaimed eccentricity. First of all, it's NOT a scumtell to be the second person to vote someone. Second, your use of the term "wagon" here is sketchy. A wagon is a rapid succession of votes on one person. The second person who votes someone doesn't necessarily know if a wagon will ensue. Town and scum can equally be wagoned, and scum can join a wagon on another scum to bus. Everything you said is totally void.
Surprisingly, I can! See, I just did. And I probably will again. Sorry!
Anyway, your first point is obviously true. I'm not sure why you even pointed that out, especially since everyone seems to have understood the sarcasm in my post.
The second point is moot. I was using the language of the post I quoted.
I'd hardly say that EVERYTHING was void. I did instruct you to find some actual arguments
Also consider that TK was the first to hop onto the L_McD wagon. Not exactly sure if that's a scumtell or a towntell, though.
It's a scumtell. The first person to hop on a wagon is always mafia. I mean, it could never be anything more than a mafia member just jumping on.
I cannot wait to see this post about me.
Here we go on my posts as to why I haven't liked Lord_McD and thus why p_b looks weird to me. I don't expect you to answer any of these p_b, but you asked for my list!
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I didn't like this post. It was too much like he's saying "I'm mafia, but I want to make everyone laugh it off and think I'm town."
Oh the hypocrisy. If you can put that you didn't say "I'm mafia", can I say that Lord Mc stated "possibly"?
I know, right? Isn't my hypocrisy amazing? I think the only thing bigger in me is my self-love.
But you can say that Lord_McD stated that, and I may consider it. Though remember, these are things I didn't like about Lord_McD.
- I don't like TK's vote on me, and not just because it's me, he's not interested in a lynch, he doesn't want me to claim, so why is he voting me?
- The whole thing about my wagon seemed...off, I get my post comes off as scummy, but for a of people to vote, agree that quick lynching someone is a bad idea, and they may or may not be generally interested in voting me, comes off as stranger and far more esoteric than my response.
As I noted earlier, Lord_McD paraphrases rather than quotes me here. By doing so, it's incredibly bad looking. It allows him to twist what I say without it actually look like he's doing any twisting. Then within the same post, he says he understands but then fails to understand any of the reasoning.
Lets for the sake of argument, quote what you said that Lord was referring to:
I want to hear that from at least 3 of you before he claims.
I'm voting because of jumping in front of a question meant for another, and then responding to "Are you covering for a buddy" with possibly.
The second part especially raises red flags.
While I'm leaving my vote there, I'm not interested in a claim at this moment, and definitely not interested in such a quick lynch on Day 1.
Can you tell me how he twisted the words?
Yes. I said (paraphrased): "I'm voting, but it's not yet time to flood the game with information such as a claim and a quick-lynch is bad."
He said (paraphrased): "He's not interested in a lynch and he doesn't want a claim"
The difference? I DID want a lynch and a claim. But it could wait. The game had just started, and we could wait and see more actions from Lord_McD. In fact, I believe W_G stated something near exactly what I said just a few posts up...
/Vote Annorax, his posts have had less content than mine (not an easy feat frankly), and his last post was simply bizarre (see below), I know that he hasn't played in a while supposedly (or at least that what was implied by the signup thread), but I'm not sure if that makes me want to vote him more or give him the benefit of the doubt.
Man, look at that fence-sitting. "He seems scummy, but he might not be!"
Yeah it is a bad comment, but I made a case when I came into this game, which you pretty much just ignored.
Can you explain why?
Huh, what? After you made that case, I made a response, and that's where I realized you and Lord_McD were one and the same, and (this is where the distancing comes in) I realized you and Annorax may be buddies and this was your way of throwing a buddy under the bus.
But this constant push on him has convinced me that he's mafia.
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MTG~DDS, pinkys_brain, are we lynching Annorax or TK-421 today?
I have felt more confident about Annorax lynch so far, but after pulling at some inconsistencies, I feel better about a TK lynch. I think either is safe. I would really like some input from Annorax before we lynch, but that doesn't seem like that will happen.
Also, should we wait for input for Cantripmancer (or whoever is going to replace him?)
TK's probably scum. Of all people, he should know that my days of writing an essay about every little thing I see or read I pick up are over. I'm thinking we have a TK/Pinky/someone scumteam, but I realize I have little to nothing to justify the scumread on Pinky.
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TK's probably scum. Of all people, he should know that my days of writing an essay about every little thing I see or read I pick up are over. I'm thinking we have a TK/Pinky/someone scumteam, but I realize I have little to nothing to justify the scumread on Pinky.
Wait, what? I said you should be writing an essay? I didn't even know you did that! I mean, I know I pointed out that earlier post that was jumping in, but if I asked you for an essay, that's weird on my part.
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Hey, MRHBlue!
Why are you voting with the person you call scum?
Can you clarify your read on pinkys_brain, and can you clarify your read on TK-421?
Also, how does Cantrip have no content to judge?
TK's probably scum. Of all people, he should know that my days of writing an essay about every little thing I see or read I pick up are over. I'm thinking we have a TK/Pinky/someone scumteam, but I realize I have little to nothing to justify the scumread on Pinky.
And why's that? (concerning TK knowing that your essay days are over)
There exists a small possibility that I am incorrect about TK. Because I am pretty certain about Annorax being scum, I don't want TK to claim as a result of that small possibility until tomorrow, when Annorax will have been lynched (if I get my way) and TK will be the best candidate for a D2 lynch.
D2?
Also, can you find anything that could redeem MRHBlue, TK-421, or Annorax as town? (Saying this because the statement "X could have done this as scum" is /always/ correct)
TK's probably scum. Of all people, he should know that my days of writing an essay about every little thing I see or read I pick up are over. I'm thinking we have a TK/Pinky/someone scumteam, but I realize I have little to nothing to justify the scumread on Pinky.
Wait, what? I said you should be writing an essay? I didn't even know you did that! I mean, I know I pointed out that earlier post that was jumping in, but if I asked you for an essay, that's weird on my part.
A little metagaming... you as staff might've had more of a reason to look up my ancient history, where every post I'd make in every game & every CI post would be a bazillion words long as I tried to satisfy everyone's wants for information. I dunno, maybe I shouldn't be posting at 5am? :/
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Hey, MRHBlue!
Why are you voting with the person you call scum?
Can you clarify your read on pinkys_brain, and can you clarify your read on TK-421?
Also, how does Cantrip have no content to judge?
Magenta posted a couple of comments Day 1.
Magenta's posts were mostly "Sorry I am lurking", but I meant actual Cantrip content.
I am voting for pinky because I think hes playing scummy and no one else is really on it. He keeps coming back to answered questions and attacks anyone who posts anything about him.
As for voting with someone I call scum: People buss all the time, and votes do more than just get people lynched. I had a middle read on TK, but I was focused on other thigns. Others have made good points about hi today, I am working on something else.
Incognito, if TK gets lynched and flips scum what does that say to you about Annorax?
If people are sick of reading about stuff just stop taking part. You have 100% control over what you read. Simic Ascendancy isn't going to get banned just because you didn't tell someone to shut up on the internet.
Hey, MRHBlue!
Why are you voting with the person you call scum?
Can you clarify your read on pinkys_brain, and can you clarify your read on TK-421?
Also, how does Cantrip have no content to judge?
Magenta posted a couple of comments Day 1.
Magenta's posts were mostly "Sorry I am lurking", but I meant actual Cantrip content.
I am voting for pinky because I think hes playing scummy and no one else is really on it. He keeps coming back to answered questions and attacks anyone who posts anything about him.
As for voting with someone I call scum: People buss all the time, and votes do more than just get people lynched. I had a middle read on TK, but I was focused on other thigns. Others have made good points about hi today, I am working on something else.
Incognito, if TK gets lynched and flips scum what does that say to you about Annorax?
Please quote every questioned I asked and link to where that question was asked by another player.
I also attacked annorax who has said pretty much nothing about me.. I have asked tk how I am a distant action to the game ( which is not an attack) and a case ( again not an attack). So really this just looks like your throwing out anything that sounds good and is not true.
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I also attacked annorax who has said pretty much nothing about me.. I have asked tk how I am a distant action to the game ( which is not an attack) and a case ( again not an attack). So really this just looks like your throwing out anything that sounds good and is not true.
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There exists a small possibility that I am incorrect about TK. Because I am pretty certain about Annorax being scum, I don't want TK to claim as a result of that small possibility until tomorrow, when Annorax will have been lynched (if I get my way) and TK will be the best candidate for a D2 lynch.
D2?
Yeah, lynch Annorax toDay and TK toMorrow. I don't get what you're getting at otherwi-
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Day 3 then.
Also, can you find anything that could redeem MRHBlue, TK-421, or Annorax as town? (Saying this because the statement "X could have done this as scum" is /always/ correct)
MRHBlue I'm very certain I could do so with, and probably with TK. Annorax I doubt I could.
But I'm more saying that the things they are doing make more sense from a scum alignment, not just digging them a grave because it could be construed as scummy. I've been thinking extensively about what their motivations for posting what they post are.
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Annorax (3): Wheat_Grinder; pinkys_brain; Incognito
Wheat_Grinder (1): Annorax
pinky's_brain (2): TK-421; MRHblue
Not Voting: Cantripmancer; MTG~DDS; Nyxu; swishh
With 10 alive, it's 6 to lynch!
It's a scumtell. The first person to hop on a wagon is always mafia. I mean, it could never be anything more than a mafia member just jumping on.
I cannot wait to see this post about me.
Here we go on my posts as to why I haven't liked Lord_McD and thus why p_b looks weird to me. I don't expect you to answer any of these p_b, but you asked for my list!
I didn't like this post. It was too much like he's saying "I'm mafia, but I want to make everyone laugh it off and think I'm town."
As I noted earlier, Lord_McD paraphrases rather than quotes me here. By doing so, it's incredibly bad looking. It allows him to twist what I say without it actually look like he's doing any twisting. Then within the same post, he says he understands but then fails to understand any of the reasoning.
Man, look at that fence-sitting. "He seems scummy, but he might not be!"
Again, I covered why his response to me was just bad (hint: the quote button is "lazier" than typing"
However, I didn't mention the added fence-sit at the end where he's goes "loldunno no reads!"
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I'm feeling better about W_G and more interested in a TK lynch.
Vote: TK-421
I'm also not your buddy.
I'll admit I haven't liked some of the things you've said, but /barn this to eternity.
Both are scummy, but one (TK) I'm more sure of. I have this bad gut feeling on Annorax ending up like iRebel, but I'm still willing to lynch him.
I feel good about both of them, so I'm willing to move my vote as necessary.
Unvote, vote TK-421
We can always lynch Annorax D3. He's living on borrowed time.
Die scum die!
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You've never expressed any read on TK prior to this.
I'm pretty sure this is the worst distancing attempt I've ever seen that I didn't attempt myself.
I have felt strongest about an Annorax lynch. I have withheld my vote because I didn't want a quick end to the day. TK has given me some weird vibes in his post, but i couldn't nail down a specific 'horrible post'. I turned up this series that I previously outlined which especially stood out as odd to me (next spoiler) and others already outlined by other players. The interaction between him and PB seems awkward as well.
Had about a 3-hr delay from when I began this post and now...work got busy. I just read latest post:
Off topic, I just had to point out that "more better" made me laugh. Back on topic, I was ok with moving forward with the TK lynch until:
It still screams Annorax is scum to me, but "living on borrowed time" is a good summation. I'll do another reread of TK. The only concern I had now after Annorax's last post is that he is scum, TK might not be and Annorax is happy to be dodging a noose. Distancing seems more likely though. Although I think I am more confident in an Annorax lynch, it seems ok to move forward in this direction.
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Naked votes, yaay!
Gods im so useless right now.
Also my post got eaten by candy crush scam
Did you forget?
Does anyone know a game which Annorax completed?
Nyxu, please stop active lurking.
Well, TK-421 actually has a scum meta now, so if I have time I'll go look at that.
Yeah, if anyone wants to see it, it's Cap. Tzymo in Famous Historical Figures.
I can do whatever I want. I'm eccentric!
And in response to your future thought of "Well, that will get you lynched." You've missed the point then. What about EVERY OTHER PERSON who has started a wagon? I never said that _I_ was scum. I just said that it was a scumtell to be the first to hop on a wagon. Now, if you have an actual complaint about that, like the fact that I'm completely lying about it being a scumtell, then come at me, but otherwise, come talk to me when you have something.
Just like a buddy to say that.
Anyway, I'm at L-3. I can claim now if you guys want, or I can follow protocol and wait for another vote. Whatever you guys want.
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I haven't expressed much of anything other than gut feelings up to this point. I don't have the kind of behavioral analysis skills you have... you pick up on things that I tend to miss. My read on TK is that he's scum, but that's just gut feelings. I have my reads, I have my feelings about people, but if I try to explain them, someone's just going to pick up on cues that aren't there & call me scum.
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People are already doing that. What are your reads and feelings about people?
@Nyxu: how do you feel about the current wagons? Are you ok comfortable with either of them?
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TK-421, given that Wheat is OK voting either of you two, I would like to hear a claim please.
You are not Annorax.
Color me skeptical. You're already seen as scum by most.
Plus, being self-conscious is also a scumtell.
Spill the rest if you've got 'em.
Wg and annorax are both stupid levels of sure. I'm not nearly as loud and angry as I was in vanilla mafia two but ill take wgs comment as a wash. I have cause enough to believe that annorax is scum based off of his case and reaction to it (and that absurd tk vote ) that once I double check the vote count I'll likely vote him
As for tk I just don't get a scum vibe off of him.
The attacks on incognito must be something I missed because they feel sudden and off kilter
For the love of toast, pinkie, I can love and tolerate all day long but not typing "y" or "o" when using the second person "you" is just unforgivable.
The context is what pointed to you "joking about being scum." It was brought up that something you did may or may not have been a scum tell by Incognito. You volunteered that it was a scum tell, which in turn, admits that you think what you did was a scum tell. It does appear to be in a joking manner but as Swishh pointed out, your two statements directly contradict themselves. You can't joke about being scum, and then condemn someone for doing the same...in the same post! Starting the wagon was not what Swishh called you out for. The contradiction was.
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@Annorax: I want your reads. Even on me for that matter, as Incognito was asking. Keeping them to yourself is not good for the town at all. At best, your reads and explanations will help your case. At worst, you are still lynched, but you have given us info that can then possibly be helpful. Even if you do get lynched and flip town, what information do you leave us with? Currently nothing. Right now, even if you are Vanilla Town as you have claimed, you are viewed as dispensable because you are not giving input to help catch scum.
You cite them not interacting as part of your case against them. Would any of them flipping town change anything to that read or is their distancing a main part of your read? How do you feel about Nyxu?
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Not really. They are all scum independently, the lack of interactions are just gravy.
I am not terribly good at reading Nyxu. He's town by POE, currently.
@WG: as a follow up, Posts: 393 & 417 still seems lurky to me. Does his Explanation of RL events earn him a pass? Other than lurky, not enough content for me to feel one way or the other. What are your current feelings on him?
You don't have to answer this again...I just saw your post right before submitting this.
Does this mean that WG is absolutely town in your mind? You didn't ever address post 362 (though true, I technically didn't ask you a question.) What was the purpose of speeding Polski along in the voting process of the last lynch?
I fail to see how PB is not giving "real analysis." If you disagree and feel that it is wrong or scum-motivated, disprove it. Post some follow up other than what seems to be a handwave and an OMGUS vote. I saw no answers to any questions posed to you, only the reaction to the incorrect (also as admitted by PB to be incorrect) accusation of "bemoaning iRebel". What do you feel about the current wagons on Annorax and TK?
PB cased Annorax and placed a vote. I don't see an empty vote there. What you referred to as "making accusations about half the people in the game" was calling out odditities in other players posts. I saw no actual accusations of other players there other than you an Annorax, only commentary on posts of interest to her.
What I do see is 2 unanswered questions. One appears rhetorical though.
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Ohhh...you're Tyzmo in FHF? I was swishh in FHF. It's policy for me not to refer to meta when determining alignment.
No, you can't do "whatever you want" and definitely not because of your self-proclaimed eccentricity. First of all, it's NOT a scumtell to be the second person to vote someone. Second, your use of the term "wagon" here is sketchy. A wagon is a rapid succession of votes on one person. The second person who votes someone doesn't necessarily know if a wagon will ensue. Town and scum can equally be wagoned, and scum can join a wagon on another scum to bus. Everything you said is totally void.
Claim whenever you want, but definitely before you're at L-1.
I'd rather lynch Rax today because "Die, Scum, Die!" pretty much confirmed him scum.
Sorry, I do a lot of my posting on my phone when I'm at work and I tend to use one letter instead of typing things out on my phone.
MRH is answering the question I asked about Sixed in the quote above. The answer really doesn't say how that is fence sitting.
Annorax continues to be scum in my book.
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Oh the hypocrisy. If you can put that you didn't say "I'm mafia", can I say that Lord Mc stated "possibly"?
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Lets for the sake of argument, quote what you said that Lord was referring to:
Can you tell me how he twisted the words?
Yeah it is a bad comment, but I made a case when I came into this game, which you pretty much just ignored.
Can you explain why?
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Guess I can just quote it from YOUR post:
I don't have much to add, he looks pretty scummy, plenty of other people are casing him, if we decide to lynch him we will probably get scum and/or good info.
This has been gone over. You are just stirring stuff up.
OR the replacment made a move I thought looked scummy and I changed my opinion.
Reads (1 is town, 5 is scum)
4- pinky's brain - Looks like hes hunting, but more just slinging
4- Annorax - Big wagon for obvious reasons
Null - Cantripmancer - no content to judge
3 - MTG~DDS looked a little scummy early, seems to be increasing hunting
2 - Swishh hunting and pressuring people hard
3+ -Nyxu - active lurking, much like Sixed was
3 - Wheat_Grinder - I thought he was playing a very good scum game, now not so sure
2- Incognito - looks town, good questions.
4 -TK-421 - Looks a lot worse toDay, questionable plays etc.
why?
MRHBlue, why are you voting with the person you call scum?
Can you clarify your read on pinkys_brain, and can you clarify your read on TK-421?
I have a hard time with Annorax designing big good games (Star Trek Myriad Universes, Bastard Mod) and being this bad as a player.
The question is: Who is going to die today, TK-421 or Annorax?
Magenta posted a couple of comments Day 1.
I think I got what you meant, but please rephrase...that first sentence seems oddly worded. Not in any kind of suspicious way, just hard to understand.
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Thanks for clarification. That makes sense.
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Let see the Annorax case, the weak attack on Sixed, the fact that Lord Mc went over your case and made a point:
Which you never responded to and still kept you vote on him from something that happened in the first 2 pages of the game.
So one comment made iRebel scum? Something you didn't even agree with and you read him as coming in panicing? How does that make sense?
How nice you keep avoiding voting him.
So instead of quoting it or showing me where your just going to throw words out.
Sure I'll throw words out too
Scummy
A weak attack, without really explaining a thing. Like your doing right now.
You don't explain what changed or why. You stuck with a vote on a player after he explained himself to you and kept it there because he disappeared (OMG only you can disappear and not comment much in the game. :rolleyes:)
By the way the above is me being a jerk, but I hate hypocrisy.
Here is a good question. If you agreed with TK so much about his case maybe you can answer the question he hasn't:
What in this post is distracting from scum hunting?
You are saying I'm slinging? What does that mean?
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MTG~DDS, pinkys_brain, are we lynching Annorax or TK-421 today?
I have felt more confident about Annorax lynch so far, but after pulling at some inconsistencies, I feel better about a TK lynch. I think either is safe. I would really like some input from Annorax before we lynch, but that doesn't seem like that will happen.
Also, should we wait for input for Cantripmancer (or whoever is going to replace him?)
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There exists a small possibility that I am incorrect about TK. Because I am pretty certain about Annorax being scum, I don't want TK to claim as a result of that small possibility until tomorrow, when Annorax will have been lynched (if I get my way) and TK will be the best candidate for a D2 lynch.
Ugh, this is exactly the response I don't want. You know what happens when we say "I'm fine with either dying"?
A 3-3 vote split, with no one getting lynched.
unvote, vote Annorax
Hes not lynched, some people are not voting him. There is a lot of other good information to be found toDay. Why the push for a quicklynch?
I didn't keep it there just because he disappeared. He was shouting from the rooftops "IM TOWN" from a little pressure.
I know you are being a jerk, its real helpful too.
Thats not the only post you have made since entering the game. You keep rehashing answered questions to try and get something to stick. Maybe thats a tactic of yours, but it looks bad.
Oh! Sorry, I accidentally read over the question (it happens a lot). Speeding Polski along wasn't the intent. The intent was to see if he was completely wishy-washy or not. When he was saying "I'd like to be sure" I wanted to know just how sure he would need to be. As an example, W_G is a good example of knowing how sure he needs to be. I can see just how willing he is to lynch who he's after. What I didn't want was Polski saying "Well, I was only 95% sure, so that's why I didn't vote obvscum *whistles innocently*".
As for W_G, I'm not positive, but you'd be hard-pressed to get me to vote for him toDay or toMorrow. We'd need some really good arguments, and I don't think there is any. I'd put my surety at 90%.
Surprisingly, I can! See, I just did. And I probably will again. Sorry!
Anyway, your first point is obviously true. I'm not sure why you even pointed that out, especially since everyone seems to have understood the sarcasm in my post.
The second point is moot. I was using the language of the post I quoted.
I'd hardly say that EVERYTHING was void. I did instruct you to find some actual arguments
I know, right? Isn't my hypocrisy amazing? I think the only thing bigger in me is my self-love.
But you can say that Lord_McD stated that, and I may consider it. Though remember, these are things I didn't like about Lord_McD.
Yes. I said (paraphrased): "I'm voting, but it's not yet time to flood the game with information such as a claim and a quick-lynch is bad."
He said (paraphrased): "He's not interested in a lynch and he doesn't want a claim"
The difference? I DID want a lynch and a claim. But it could wait. The game had just started, and we could wait and see more actions from Lord_McD. In fact, I believe W_G stated something near exactly what I said just a few posts up...
Huh, what? After you made that case, I made a response, and that's where I realized you and Lord_McD were one and the same, and (this is where the distancing comes in) I realized you and Annorax may be buddies and this was your way of throwing a buddy under the bus.
But this constant push on him has convinced me that he's mafia.
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TK's probably scum. Of all people, he should know that my days of writing an essay about every little thing I see or read I pick up are over. I'm thinking we have a TK/Pinky/someone scumteam, but I realize I have little to nothing to justify the scumread on Pinky.
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Wait, what? I said you should be writing an essay? I didn't even know you did that! I mean, I know I pointed out that earlier post that was jumping in, but if I asked you for an essay, that's weird on my part.
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I want annorax lynch.
The rest of the walls addresses to me will have to wait till later.
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Why are you voting with the person you call scum?
Can you clarify your read on pinkys_brain, and can you clarify your read on TK-421?
Also, how does Cantrip have no content to judge?
Magenta posted a couple of comments Day 1.
Day 2.
And why's that? (concerning TK knowing that your essay days are over)
D2?
Also, can you find anything that could redeem MRHBlue, TK-421, or Annorax as town? (Saying this because the statement "X could have done this as scum" is /always/ correct)
A little metagaming... you as staff might've had more of a reason to look up my ancient history, where every post I'd make in every game & every CI post would be a bazillion words long as I tried to satisfy everyone's wants for information. I dunno, maybe I shouldn't be posting at 5am? :/
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Magenta's posts were mostly "Sorry I am lurking", but I meant actual Cantrip content.
I am voting for pinky because I think hes playing scummy and no one else is really on it. He keeps coming back to answered questions and attacks anyone who posts anything about him.
As for voting with someone I call scum: People buss all the time, and votes do more than just get people lynched. I had a middle read on TK, but I was focused on other thigns. Others have made good points about hi today, I am working on something else.
Incognito, if TK gets lynched and flips scum what does that say to you about Annorax?
Please quote every questioned I asked and link to where that question was asked by another player.
I also attacked annorax who has said pretty much nothing about me.. I have asked tk how I am a distant action to the game ( which is not an attack) and a case ( again not an attack). So really this just looks like your throwing out anything that sounds good and is not true.
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Sorry should say distraction, not distant action.
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Yeah, lynch Annorax toDay and TK toMorrow. I don't get what you're getting at otherwi-
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Day 3 then.
MRHBlue I'm very certain I could do so with, and probably with TK. Annorax I doubt I could.
But I'm more saying that the things they are doing make more sense from a scum alignment, not just digging them a grave because it could be construed as scummy. I've been thinking extensively about what their motivations for posting what they post are.