Saying "I'm town" isn't going to change your opinion of me. I want to know your thought process / reasoning.
It's not about my opinion. The strongest argument you could make is to say you have empirical evidence to the effect that I'm wrong, i.e. you're a townie. That's the first thing a townie would say. Asking "What is your reasoning behind this?" is a dodge. Why do you care what my reasoning is if I'm wrong? That's like checking the citations on a treatise on UFO abductions.
It looked like you were still talking about the mass claim. What was the point of bringing up regular claim protocol the sentence after talking about mass claiming? It sounds like you're just trying to cover up what I caught you on now.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Saying "I'm town" isn't going to change your opinion of me. I want to know your thought process / reasoning.
It's not about my opinion. The strongest argument you could make is to say you have empirical evidence to the effect that I'm wrong, i.e. you're a townie. That's the first thing a townie would say. Asking "What is your reasoning behind this?" is a dodge. Why do you care what my reasoning is if I'm wrong? That's like checking the citations on a treatise on UFO abductions.
My strongest argument is to just say "I'm town"? ****, this Mafia thing is much easier than I thought it was.
Guys, I'm town. Meg and Iso are most likely not.
@Meg: There is no backpedaling on my end. I did not see Iso's post as talking about regular claiming - I saw it as talking about mass claiming because that was the topic he was talking about.
It looked like you were still talking about the mass claim. What was the point of bringing up regular claim protocol the sentence after talking about mass claiming? It sounds like you're just trying to cover up what I caught you on now.
In fact, I directly stated that in the post you quoted. Thank you for misrepping my post.
You didn't. And now you're trying to sling mud by saying I misrepped you.
My point in that post wasn't clear.
Karn says that Iso is pushing a mass claim.
The only discussion of the mass claim in Iso's post was against it.
So, what, Iso's trying to distract from pushing..... against the mass claim?
This is what doesn't add up.
The sentence of mine you bolded was a hypothetical for if he was actually talking about regular claiming. That is not me saying that I think he was talking about regular claiming.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Also I think Megiddo's town, and that Rascals is suspicious for that reason.
I have a specific reason for the re-categorization of my vote.
What about my vote on megs makes you feel I'm suspicious?
And "I got a feeling Megs is town" isn't good enough.
What's the Lanxal stuff about? I don't get the reference, and I'm guessing it's something from a mod lounge or something because I apparently don't have permissions to read it.
I am not an advocate of your plan, Megiddo. You know why.
However, claim protocol should involve posting your full role PM.
If anyone disagrees with this, they need to step forward now.
It's funny, Iso acts like he doesn't want to do the mass claim, but then gives the 'correct' protocol and asks anyone if they disagree and acts as if we are going to move forward with it unless anyone disagrees.
guess who would string me up immediately if I actually tried to go through with the mass claim?
Iso
guess who's absolutely wrong about their line of thought?
you.
It was a reaction-baiting move, except that I already knew the reactions of two people. Or, rather, I thought I knew. You trying to get me lynched for it is totally weird.
Iso is your scumbuddy. Of course he isn't going to string you up.
I don't think I've ever seen buddying this early from two scum. I find the likelihood of Iso and Meg both being scum pretty low.
/barn regarding buddying early.
AGod, what would you point out as being good posts by ER? You say he has them, but you don't provide examples.
I was scum with Karn in Lucian, and this looks like he's playing the same way here: very aggressively and emotionally charged, with a healthy dose of randomness and not giving a crap.
The lunch bell chimes, and some people bolt towards the door, headed towards the roof, the Shanghai, the tea room, the library.
But Yuuko was on the other side, eavesdropping, and it caused a pileup at the door. The remainder of the resistance leaders marshaled everyone back to their seats.
There will be no lunch today. Only tears.
JeY K (1) - Ghosting
Xyre (2) - Zionite, JeY K
Iso (2) - pikachugundam, Sir Karn
Megiddo (3) - ExpiredRascals, AtheistGod, Voxxicus Sir Karn (4) - Iso, Xyre, Megiddo, Arianrhod
@Arian:
Have you read any of my other games? I always play the same.
The fact that meta is the only reason you voted me after you probably haven't even read any of my other games is really weak.
inb4'd by Megs on Arian's vote. I like it the least of all the Karn votes. Dislike Jey's lack of commentary on Karn so far but I guess we have to wait for that now.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Do you have any reads yet or are you happy just pointing out the obvious?
I have no reads yet and I'm happy just pointing out the obvious.
0 reads?
Give us at least 1 scum read and 1 town read. You can't possibly have a completely null read on everyone in the game right now. You're sitting on the fence so hard right now - on literally everyone.
I thought I unvoted... whatever... Unvote again. At least there wasn't an explosion like yesterday. I'm still going over it trying to make heads or tails of it.
I'm not buying this wagon on Karn. I don't agree with his analysis but he is trying to scumhunt. I don't see the value of figuring out who is asking for a mass claim seriously though. It doesn't seem all that productive.
There's a lot of players sidelining themselves that I'd rather hear more from.
@Ghosting: do you literally have zero reads or are you just playing with them close to the chest?
I don't literally have zero reads, I just have no alignments to place on people, and I don't feel like being told what to do because I took off my RVS vote.
As is, I think Sir Karn's trying way too hard to scum hunt, but I don't see that as scummy at all. It's coming across as forceful, but he does seem to genuinely want to help. At this point, I'd say he's trying to be the town leader, which could be good or bad.
I think Megiddo and Iso are acting the way they are because it's fun and gets reactions from people. I have no experience playing with either of them so I'm not going to label it as town or scum.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
inb4'd by Megs on Arian's vote. I like it the least of all the Karn votes. Dislike Jey's lack of commentary on Karn so far but I guess we have to wait for that now.
this is a weird post.
Why is Aryan's vote the "one you like least?" That implies that you have a ranking of sorts. When one says they "like something the least" that generally implies that they dislike many if not all of the objects.
But the other three votes are people you are viewing as town... And yourself.
I don't like the mindset behind that statement.
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Can we have Megiddo removed from the forum forever please?
i'm pretty sure i can find your ***** online within 3 minutes
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Less sure on Karn. Gut says he's town - there's a kind of exasperation that doesn't read forced, in there. But man, that backpedal off of the massclaim thing is sketchy. It was pretty clear that Iso was talking about L-2 claim protocol being that we include our full role PM (which I agree with).
Less sure on Karn. Gut says he's town - there's a kind of exasperation that doesn't read forced, in there. But man, that backpedal off of the massclaim thing is sketchy. It was pretty clear that Iso was talking about L-2 claim protocol being that we include our full role PM (which I agree with).
I did not backpedal at all.
I did not see that as clear at all given that it was the sentence after talking about mass claims.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
It didn't come across that way at all to me, but to each his own.
Do you usually find yourself to be so conciliatory toward others' opinions?
Typically, yes.
Ghosting appears to be ghosting the popular opinion. #puns.
Sorry I was MIA for the rest of the day yesterday....life happened.
@Ghosting, let's get this out of the way now (surprised nobody else has asked yet): are you a gimmick?
@Karn, I don't really have the time right now to sit here and read through your other games. I'll just have to take your word that you play the same way regardless of alignment.
@Xyre, what is your opinion of Iso and Megiddo so far this game?
@Voxx, what have you thought of Jey_K?
@ER, (or is anyone else knows the answer) I would still like to understand what the reference is that you're making. The Lanxal thing.
It's not about my opinion. The strongest argument you could make is to say you have empirical evidence to the effect that I'm wrong, i.e. you're a townie. That's the first thing a townie would say. Asking "What is your reasoning behind this?" is a dodge. Why do you care what my reasoning is if I'm wrong? That's like checking the citations on a treatise on UFO abductions.
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Because there's no reason that I can see not to post our role PMs when we are able to do so.
Yes I did. It is literally right there. You can't seriously expect anyone to believe that you are illiterate.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I see no reason to disagree if that's the case.
My strongest argument is to just say "I'm town"? ****, this Mafia thing is much easier than I thought it was.
Guys, I'm town. Meg and Iso are most likely not.
@Meg: There is no backpedaling on my end. I did not see Iso's post as talking about regular claiming - I saw it as talking about mass claiming because that was the topic he was talking about.
The sentence of mine you bolded was a hypothetical for if he was actually talking about regular claiming. That is not me saying that I think he was talking about regular claiming.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I don't disagree if that were the case either. It just didn't look like that was the case to me.
Yes. That's what it reads like.
What's the Lanxal stuff about? I don't get the reference, and I'm guessing it's something from a mod lounge or something because I apparently don't have permissions to read it.
/barn regarding buddying early.
AGod, what would you point out as being good posts by ER? You say he has them, but you don't provide examples.
I was scum with Karn in Lucian, and this looks like he's playing the same way here: very aggressively and emotionally charged, with a healthy dose of randomness and not giving a crap.
Unvote. Vote Sir Karn.
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Everyone should agree with this then.
But Yuuko was on the other side, eavesdropping, and it caused a pileup at the door. The remainder of the resistance leaders marshaled everyone back to their seats.
There will be no lunch today. Only tears.
JeY K (1) - Ghosting
Xyre (2) - Zionite, JeY K
Iso (2) - pikachugundam, Sir Karn
Megiddo (3) - ExpiredRascals, AtheistGod, Voxxicus
Sir Karn (4) - Iso, Xyre, Megiddo, Arianrhod
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With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch!
Not a fan of Aryan Rod's vote. Needs more substantiation.
Isn't Zionist in this game
Have you read any of my other games? I always play the same.
The fact that meta is the only reason you voted me after you probably haven't even read any of my other games is really weak.
Yes. It has been for a bit.
Do you have any reads yet or are you happy just pointing out the obvious?
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I have no reads yet and I'm happy just pointing out the obvious.
0 reads?
Give us at least 1 scum read and 1 town read. You can't possibly have a completely null read on everyone in the game right now. You're sitting on the fence so hard right now - on literally everyone.
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I'm not buying this wagon on Karn. I don't agree with his analysis but he is trying to scumhunt. I don't see the value of figuring out who is asking for a mass claim seriously though. It doesn't seem all that productive.
There's a lot of players sidelining themselves that I'd rather hear more from.
Zero reads.
No.
I do.
We've had maybe fifty posts of actual content, calm down; you're trying too hard.
I don't literally have zero reads, I just have no alignments to place on people, and I don't feel like being told what to do because I took off my RVS vote.
As is, I think Sir Karn's trying way too hard to scum hunt, but I don't see that as scummy at all. It's coming across as forceful, but he does seem to genuinely want to help. At this point, I'd say he's trying to be the town leader, which could be good or bad.
I think Megiddo and Iso are acting the way they are because it's fun and gets reactions from people. I have no experience playing with either of them so I'm not going to label it as town or scum.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Why is Aryan's vote the "one you like least?" That implies that you have a ranking of sorts. When one says they "like something the least" that generally implies that they dislike many if not all of the objects.
But the other three votes are people you are viewing as town... And yourself.
I don't like the mindset behind that statement.
You want those three to be scum? What makes you want that?
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Karn
Why did you spoiler that text, given that it's, y'know. Actually relevant?
Think about it carefully and explain your mindset behind doing so.
I did not backpedal at all.
I did not see that as clear at all given that it was the sentence after talking about mass claims.
I wanted the question to be read first, then my thought on it.
What, do some people not open spoilers or something?
I pretty much never open spoilers, as they're generally out of game stuff, or irrelevant to the topic at hand.
Oh. I didn't know. That's not how I intended it.
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Karn's probably just try hard town, let's not.
Karn's responses to Vox feel artificial.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Agreed, although I think it's just due to him disregarding contractions for some unknown reason. Some of it sounds natural, like this comment:
{мы, тьма}
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
It didn't come across that way at all to me, but to each his own.
Do you usually find yourself to be so conciliatory toward others' opinions?
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Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Typically, yes.
Ghosting appears to be ghosting the popular opinion. #puns.
Sorry I was MIA for the rest of the day yesterday....life happened.
@Ghosting, let's get this out of the way now (surprised nobody else has asked yet): are you a gimmick?
@Karn, I don't really have the time right now to sit here and read through your other games. I'll just have to take your word that you play the same way regardless of alignment.
@Xyre, what is your opinion of Iso and Megiddo so far this game?
@Voxx, what have you thought of Jey_K?
@ER, (or is anyone else knows the answer) I would still like to understand what the reference is that you're making. The Lanxal thing.
My sources suggest that this is because he is incapable of finding TRUE LOVE
He played the game and liveblogged it for us in the mod lounge, which amused ER so much that he's quoting lanxal this game.