I've changed my mind on Meg. He probably just thinks that I'm playing the same as when I actually was scum and doesn't want to let me get away this time. He's still pushing at nothing on me, but I understand where he's coming from.
You suddenly see Yuuko through the blackboard. She's trying to peer at the classroom, but quickly realizes that she's on the wrong side of a one-way blackboard. She flees, mortified.
Sir Karn (4) - Iso, Megiddo, Ghosting, Zionite Arianrhod (5) - JeY K, Sir Karn, Voxxicus, Xyre, ExpiredRascals (L-2)
I was going to look for where I saw "pulling a Shark" but I got busy, then I realized I don't want to dig through all of the semi-recent games just to appease you two.
I actually met it with that quote, not what you're saying, parinoid.
You were really twisting that. There was an entire other conversation before I said I changed my mind. What made me do so was Meg's post about how he thought I'm scum now because he correctly read me before. It made me realize Meg is just being stubborn and truly thinks he's right, and the he doesn't realize that I play the same regardless of my alignment.
@Meg: Cam you read another town game of mine so you aren't metagaming with the only example being a scumgame. A good example would be where I got lynched Day 1 -_-
So you admit that, even if he is town, that he's going to continue to behave in a manner that is not helpful to the town in the slightest?
And you didn't answer my "wat".
Probably.
Did I need to answer your wat? I'm just saying that the words you put in quotes to represent a paraphrase of what I was saying is biased as hell. You can make anything look sarcastically bad when you phrase it like that.
For example, "Hey guys Lynching town I don't like is helpful to the town!"
@Megs:
Why have you not said anything about Xyre's multiple PBPAs this game?
You have gone on record before saying that you think all PBPAs are scummy and a huge red flag to you.
So you admit that, even if he is town, that he's going to continue to behave in a manner that is not helpful to the town in the slightest?
And you didn't answer my "wat".
Probably.
Okay. Then why shouldn't he be lynched?
Quote from JeY k »
Did I need to answer your wat? I'm just saying that the words you put in quotes to represent a paraphrase of what I was saying is biased as hell. You can make anything look sarcastically bad when you phrase it like that.
For example, "Hey guys Lynching town I don't like is helpful to the town!"
Um. What? I've been directly quoting your posts and cutting out everything but the parts I'm responding to, so I'm not sure what you're talking about, here.
I don't want my vote on Arian anymore, but I want my questions answered before I decide where to put my vote.
Humor me for a moment. If you like Megs's answers, where is your vote going? If you don't like Megs's answers, where is your vote going? Because it seems to me like you would logically be voting me at this point if you thought I were scum, regardless of how Megiddo is pushing you.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Iso:
I'll show you where my vote goes after I hear the answers
@Xyre:
I want to make sure the Day doesn't end all of a sudden while there is a bunch of info left to be gained, and while I'm still sorting out some of my reads. It's even possible that I put my vote back on Arian after the questions are answered.
@Iso:
I'll show you where my vote goes after I hear the answers
@Xyre:
I want to make sure the Day doesn't end all of a sudden while there is a bunch of info left to be gained, and while I'm still sorting out some of my reads. It's even possible that I put my vote back on Arian after the questions are answered.
But you didn't say "I want more time", you said "I don't want my vote on Arian anymore". The latter indicates there's something about Arian that makes you unwilling to vote him anymore. Do you think Arian is town?
So you admit that, even if he is town, that he's going to continue to behave in a manner that is not helpful to the town in the slightest?
And you didn't answer my "wat".
Probably.
Okay. Then why shouldn't he be lynched?
Quote from JeY k »
Did I need to answer your wat? I'm just saying that the words you put in quotes to represent a paraphrase of what I was saying is biased as hell. You can make anything look sarcastically bad when you phrase it like that.
For example, "Hey guys Lynching town I don't like is helpful to the town!"
Um. What? I've been directly quoting your posts and cutting out everything but the parts I'm responding to, so I'm not sure what you're talking about, here.
first answer is obvious; because I'd rather actually lynch scum. I want to win.
Second,
"Hey guys, this thing happened in a game I can't reference, so I'm going to look for any excuse I can to ignore Karn's awful behavior all game and not vote him but I can't justify that in any way because on-going game lol! Just FYI that's the only reason I'm not voting him!"
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
It may be time to start doing work this game, earlier than anticipated.
AtheistGod: Post a full T/S list in your next post. Then, give me a compelling argument to lynch the person who you're currently voting for......... oh wait, you aren't voting for anybody. Well, you can still give us a T/S list.
ExpiredRascals: There is an outstanding question for you; please answer.
Voxxicus: Same question. Also, uh, post more.
Karn: As you have failed to satisfactorily answer a question for the third time this game I am no longer reading your posts. Get lynched. You cannot play poorly every game and hide behind "meta." You will be lynched this game. If by some miracle of God you are town I hope you accept your punishment and learn your lesson for next time, or you're going to be mislynch fodder forever. Next time I am teaching Prophylaxis how to be a good townie I suggest you listen in.
Aryan Rod: Stop whining and post something of value.
parinoid: Post more, but I already like you. Give us a more complete summary of your view on the game in your next post please.
Zionite: Somebody bang the TV; too much static and not enough actual content.
Iso: I have a new religion where the primary function is hoping very dearly that you are town. See also: Cyan.
Xyre: Did you know that KoolKoal pronounces your name as "Ex-Ire?"
Jey and Ghosting: Do something that leaves an impression on my brain please.
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I want to lynch Karn Today and then lynch AtheistGod Tomorrow.
Now, since I did promise Karn, here's my explanation for why Silver is town:
Right now, I'm indifferent on lynching Silver or Karn first. I would like to hear Silver claim to make that conversation easier, so I'll Unvote, Vote SilverSihhe
which I think makes five.
You're not getting anything useful out of me, sadly. I'm just a VT.
Obviously I'd prefer to not die toDay, since I would actually put effort in Tomorrow, but that's also a weak reason to keep me alive at best. I'd like a chance to have SOME input before I get strung up (which bare minimum isn't going to happen until post-prereleases), but if you guys want to move ahead, then that's fine too. Fairly certain that nothing I say will be taken seriously, anyway. I've been painted scum too effectively to be listened to.
So...yeah. Do what you need to do. If I'm still alive come next week by some miracle, then I should be able to provide some content.
Wait. Did Arian just say "You guys won't listen to me, so wait a week and then I'll start providing content?" Why would waiting a week make what he has to say any more trustworthy?
If he is town, wouldn't he be espousing all his ideas now, before he dies, so that we have more information? He seems to be trying to just deny any information/interaction.
This is an incredible misrepresentation of Aryan Rod's post. Aryan Rod has already mentioned OOG issues this game. He's not posting anywhere else and lurking here (to my knowledge). Yet here is AGod swooping in with an attack on that.
AGod is trying to turn what is effectively a V/LA into a reason to vote. This is unacceptable, and incredibly malicious and opportunistic.
I can no longer see AGod as town after this post. Thus, the situation is either Scum - Scum or Scum - Town. I suppose it is still possible that Aryan Rod is scum. However, scum don't need to twist their buddies' words to bus them—they can find the legitimately scummy things they are doing. The fact that this happened makes me lean Town on Aryan Rod.
Plus, I'd like to see Aryan actually delivering content this game. If he is scum we will catch him then.
Karn, for next time, all of this information was contained in this post:
@Xyre:
I'm a bit mixed on Arian, but I don't think i want to lynch him toDay anymore. His play earlier was bad (keeping a vote with literal no reason), but I'm fine with giving him some time to prove himself since he's apparently busy irl.
That said, his claim made raise an eyebrow a bit. He changed Wheat's name when quoting it. This was odd to me because when I gave my pm, I just clean copy/pasted. Arian obviously tinkered with what he was putting down.
I got a strong town vibe out of my little conversation with Voxxicus a while back.
His catchup posts seemed mostly fine. His T/S didn't exactly match up to all his posts, but I don't think it's a huge problem.
I got a strong town vibe out of my little conversation with Voxxicus a while back.
His catchup posts seemed mostly fine. His T/S didn't exactly match up to all his posts, but I don't think it's a huge problem.
Did you read my PBPA on him? What did you think of all the things I pointed out - the inconsistencies, for instance?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I was going to look for where I saw "pulling a Shark" but I got busy, then I realized I don't want to dig through all of the semi-recent games just to appease you two.
I actually met it with that quote, not what you're saying, parinoid.
You were really twisting that. There was an entire other conversation before I said I changed my mind. What made me do so was Meg's post about how he thought I'm scum now because he correctly read me before. It made me realize Meg is just being stubborn and truly thinks he's right, and the he doesn't realize that I play the same regardless of my alignment.
I was not trying to say it was your most immediate response, hence 'eventually'. I was intending to point out the disconnect I see between what you assess meg's motivations as and what I see passing between the two of you. Especially that you claim to understand where he was coming from.
So tell me, how do you fit in 'meg coining the phrase is BS' with your assessment that "Meg is just being stubborn and truly thinks he's right, and the he doesn't realize that I play the same regardless of my alignment."
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Xyre:
Your PBPA involved a lot of "look at this mia. and look at this mia! that's scummy guys!" which turned me off at first. Though you do point out inconsistencies in the T/S that I also noticed. I don't think the inconsistencies are as big as you make them out to be though.
I did actually just realize that Voxx's only reason for voting Arian is that, if he had to choose between lynching me or Arian, he would rather lynch Arian. Nobody was making him choose between those two.
From Voxx's description of things, it definitely seems like he should be voting AGod.
@Voxx:
Go in depth on why "Xyre and Iso are both clear town" to you. You just said that and left it there with no backup.
@Xyre:
Your PBPA involved a lot of "look at this mia. and look at this mia! that's scummy guys!" which turned me off at first. Though you do point out inconsistencies in the T/S that I also noticed. I don't think the inconsistencies are as big as you make them out to be though.
I did actually just realize that Voxx's only reason for voting Arian is that, if he had to choose between lynching me or Arian, he would rather lynch Arian. Nobody was making him choose between those two.
From Voxx's description of things, it definitely seems like he should be voting AGod.
@Voxx:
Go in depth on why "Xyre and Iso are both clear town" to you. You just said that and left it there with no backup.
I never once said the MIAs were scummy in the PBPA.
What about his flip-flop on you?
135: torn - townie read, but bad play (no reference to 74)
396: "willing to lynch Karn on 74 alone"
400: reiterates position in 396
401 "Karn is probably town"
I was not trying to say it was your most immediate response, hence 'eventually'. I was intending to point out the disconnect I see between what you assess meg's motivations as and what I see passing between the two of you. Especially that you claim to understand where he was coming from.
So tell me, how do you fit in 'meg coining the phrase is BS' with your assessment that "Meg is just being stubborn and truly thinks he's right, and the he doesn't realize that I play the same regardless of my alignment."
I understood where he was coming from with thinking I'm scum because of our previous game together. The second quote you have there is me considering Meg being town. I could see/understand a case for him being town, but there is so much crap coming out of his mouth and constant dodging of questions all game, etc. that I'm comfortable saying he's scum.
@Megs:
Why have you not said anything about Xyre's multiple PBPAs this game?
You have gone on record before saying that you think all PBPAs are scummy and a huge red flag to you.
This question was dodged again.
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I want to break this down:
Quote from Megiddo »
Karn: As you have failed to satisfactorily answer a question for the third time this game I am no longer reading your posts. Get lynched. You cannot play poorly every game and hide behind "meta." You will be lynched this game. If by some miracle of God you are town I hope you accept your punishment and learn your lesson for next time, or you're going to be mislynch fodder forever. Next time I am teaching Prophylaxis how to be a good townie I suggest you listen in.
First:
Quote from Meg »
As you have failed to satisfactorily answer a question for the third time this game I am no longer reading your posts. Get lynched.
I'm not even sure what question you're talking about. I thought I've answered everything asked of me so far at least decently.
Can you quote the three times?
And, even if it were hypothetically true, that shouldn't give you a free pass on all of my questions.
Quote from Meg »
You cannot play poorly every game and hide behind "meta."
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that you make it sound like you think I'm scum just because you've seen me playing scum before and you think I'm playing the same as I was then.
I'm not even close to attempting to hide behind any meta. This is just how I play.
The rest of the quote is just insults to me, or Meg repeating himself on "Get lynched."
Frankly, if you are in fact town this game, Meg, I definitely don't want any lessons from you.
I never once said the MIAs were scummy in the PBPA.
Making a PBPA and pointing out MIAs over and over makes it seem like you're trying to say that it's scummy. Why do a PBPA if you aren't trying to say that? You could have just pointed out the important posts instead of a full PBPA.
135: torn - townie read, but bad play (no reference to 74)
396: "willing to lynch Karn on 74 alone"
400: reiterates position in 396
401 "Karn is probably town"
The 396-400-401 trio sounds like he was writing as he went and his read changed along the way.
135 - I'm not sure. Maybe he just didn't notice it until his reread.
Iso is acting like he's doing things over and over, but he hasn't done anything in roughly a week. All he has done is say "lynch Karn." and throw out a stray question on occasion. A lot of posts, but very very little content. He's just trying to look active.
ER has disappeared.
Upon review, JeY has done absolutely nothing this game.
Ghosting is also remarkably nonexistent.
Man, there are a lot of lurkers this game.
A question that I don't think got enough attention: Why would Meg have to speculate on if a town PM had the confirmation line at the bottom of it or not, if he were town?
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I really dislike the mentalities some people have around this site (not exclusive to this game) that go something like:
"I think you're scum, therefore I won't answer any of your questions."
--and--
"If you think I'm scum, why do you care so much about my answers? I won't answer."
I see nothing townie about either of those mentalities and my mind is boggled when lots of people just let it slide over and over again.
I caught you and I have consistently pointed out what makes you scum. You are acting like that isn't a contribution when I've been repeatedly attempting to swing the lynch on to you after each time you make an awful post. Thank you for the mudslinging, may I have some more?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
A deadline is being implemented. Day 1 will end on Thursday, August 1st around 7pm CST. This may change if content picks up from some of the players who haven't been posting much.
Voxxicus is being replaced. He reached his second prod within a short window, so for both his sake and the sake of the game I'm replacing him early.
Voxxicus was the only player in prod range, but there are a few players who are pretty close to it. If they don't post tomorrow, there will be a second round of prods going out.
@Iso:
Saying "lol scum. Lynch him." over and over isn't contributing.
You can do other things while you're waiting for me to flip. You're tunneled hardcore right now, not even giving thoughts to other options for toDay.
What really gets me is how you made up your plan over a week ago and haven't swayed at all. Town gets doubts over that long of a time period staying on the same wagon (especially this early in the game). You (and Meg) have basically been riding me since right after RVS. It's really striking me as you thinking you could push an easy mislynch on someone you perceive to be a bad player. Then when I flip town you hope your constant cries of 'bad' and 'scum' got enough people to believe you so you didn't look too scummy to them.
Karn - I have been generating reactions and scumhunting. I can point to every single post where I have done something in this game. Are you prepared to point to every single post where I have not? Why would I doubt my read when you have been consistently scum throughout the Day? I have considered other options and voiced these through the course of the game. But you keep yanking the spotlight towards you and I just can not put on the backburner. Regardless of how butthurt you are about it.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I'm reverting to my original plan of not posting anymore Today.
And if you insist on just saying you did again instead of answering, then quote it.
this:
Which was eventually met with:
Sir Karn (4) - Iso, Megiddo, Ghosting, Zionite
Arianrhod (5) - JeY K, Sir Karn, Voxxicus, Xyre, ExpiredRascals (L-2)
Not Voting (3) - parinoid, Arianrhod, AtheistGod
With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch!
I actually met it with that quote, not what you're saying, parinoid.
You were really twisting that. There was an entire other conversation before I said I changed my mind. What made me do so was Meg's post about how he thought I'm scum now because he correctly read me before. It made me realize Meg is just being stubborn and truly thinks he's right, and the he doesn't realize that I play the same regardless of my alignment.
@Meg: Cam you read another town game of mine so you aren't metagaming with the only example being a scumgame. A good example would be where I got lynched Day 1 -_-
Probably.
Did I need to answer your wat? I'm just saying that the words you put in quotes to represent a paraphrase of what I was saying is biased as hell. You can make anything look sarcastically bad when you phrase it like that.
For example, "Hey guys Lynching town I don't like is helpful to the town!"
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Are you saying that you think I lied about seeing the term "Sharking" used in another game?
Also, don't skip this, Meg. I realize our back and forth abruptly ended last night when I confronted you with it.
Why have you not said anything about Xyre's multiple PBPAs this game?
You have gone on record before saying that you think all PBPAs are scummy and a huge red flag to you.
unvote
Okay. Then why shouldn't he be lynched?
Um. What? I've been directly quoting your posts and cutting out everything but the parts I'm responding to, so I'm not sure what you're talking about, here.
Humor me for a moment. If you like Megs's answers, where is your vote going? If you don't like Megs's answers, where is your vote going? Because it seems to me like you would logically be voting me at this point if you thought I were scum, regardless of how Megiddo is pushing you.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Why don't you want your vote on Arian? Clearly it's not just because you have someone else in mind.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
I'll show you where my vote goes after I hear the answers
@Xyre:
I want to make sure the Day doesn't end all of a sudden while there is a bunch of info left to be gained, and while I'm still sorting out some of my reads. It's even possible that I put my vote back on Arian after the questions are answered.
But you didn't say "I want more time", you said "I don't want my vote on Arian anymore". The latter indicates there's something about Arian that makes you unwilling to vote him anymore. Do you think Arian is town?
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
first answer is obvious; because I'd rather actually lynch scum. I want to win.
Second,
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Hey, I feel it's an accurate representation of what you're saying/doing.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
AtheistGod: Post a full T/S list in your next post. Then, give me a compelling argument to lynch the person who you're currently voting for......... oh wait, you aren't voting for anybody. Well, you can still give us a T/S list.
ExpiredRascals: There is an outstanding question for you; please answer.
Voxxicus: Same question. Also, uh, post more.
Karn: As you have failed to satisfactorily answer a question for the third time this game I am no longer reading your posts. Get lynched. You cannot play poorly every game and hide behind "meta." You will be lynched this game. If by some miracle of God you are town I hope you accept your punishment and learn your lesson for next time, or you're going to be mislynch fodder forever. Next time I am teaching Prophylaxis how to be a good townie I suggest you listen in.
Aryan Rod: Stop whining and post something of value.
parinoid: Post more, but I already like you. Give us a more complete summary of your view on the game in your next post please.
Zionite: Somebody bang the TV; too much static and not enough actual content.
Iso: I have a new religion where the primary function is hoping very dearly that you are town. See also: Cyan.
Xyre: Did you know that KoolKoal pronounces your name as "Ex-Ire?"
Jey and Ghosting: Do something that leaves an impression on my brain please.
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I want to lynch Karn Today and then lynch AtheistGod Tomorrow.
Now, since I did promise Karn, here's my explanation for why Silver is town:
This is an incredible misrepresentation of Aryan Rod's post. Aryan Rod has already mentioned OOG issues this game. He's not posting anywhere else and lurking here (to my knowledge). Yet here is AGod swooping in with an attack on that.
AGod is trying to turn what is effectively a V/LA into a reason to vote. This is unacceptable, and incredibly malicious and opportunistic.
I can no longer see AGod as town after this post. Thus, the situation is either Scum - Scum or Scum - Town. I suppose it is still possible that Aryan Rod is scum. However, scum don't need to twist their buddies' words to bus them—they can find the legitimately scummy things they are doing. The fact that this happened makes me lean Town on Aryan Rod.
Plus, I'd like to see Aryan actually delivering content this game. If he is scum we will catch him then.
Karn, for next time, all of this information was contained in this post:
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Also, ++
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Vote: Megiddo
Square-shaped with a hammer or circular-shaped with a mace?
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Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
You haven't really made an impression as being an active participant to me.
he is too busy trying to deflect off of himself and onto me.
I'm a bit mixed on Arian, but I don't think i want to lynch him toDay anymore. His play earlier was bad (keeping a vote with literal no reason), but I'm fine with giving him some time to prove himself since he's apparently busy irl.
That said, his claim made raise an eyebrow a bit. He changed Wheat's name when quoting it. This was odd to me because when I gave my pm, I just clean copy/pasted. Arian obviously tinkered with what he was putting down.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
His catchup posts seemed mostly fine. His T/S didn't exactly match up to all his posts, but I don't think it's a huge problem.
Did you read my PBPA on him? What did you think of all the things I pointed out - the inconsistencies, for instance?
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Become a believer in Isoism. I can make a pamphlet for you if you'd like.
I laughed
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I'm saying that I think one of you did...
and was wondering what took you so long to say that.
I was not trying to say it was your most immediate response, hence 'eventually'. I was intending to point out the disconnect I see between what you assess meg's motivations as and what I see passing between the two of you. Especially that you claim to understand where he was coming from.
So tell me, how do you fit in 'meg coining the phrase is BS' with your assessment that "Meg is just being stubborn and truly thinks he's right, and the he doesn't realize that I play the same regardless of my alignment."
I like it but it makes me wrong if it's correct so it made me go ":(".
I think the most important thing right now is seeing how Karn flips and going from there.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Four on Arian, four on Karn. Can we possibly reach seven votes on either? I think we've run out of useful conversation for this day.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
@Xyre:
Your PBPA involved a lot of "look at this mia. and look at this mia! that's scummy guys!" which turned me off at first. Though you do point out inconsistencies in the T/S that I also noticed. I don't think the inconsistencies are as big as you make them out to be though.
I did actually just realize that Voxx's only reason for voting Arian is that, if he had to choose between lynching me or Arian, he would rather lynch Arian. Nobody was making him choose between those two.
From Voxx's description of things, it definitely seems like he should be voting AGod.
@Voxx:
Go in depth on why "Xyre and Iso are both clear town" to you. You just said that and left it there with no backup.
I never once said the MIAs were scummy in the PBPA.
What about his flip-flop on you?
135: torn - townie read, but bad play (no reference to 74)
396: "willing to lynch Karn on 74 alone"
400: reiterates position in 396
401 "Karn is probably town"
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
So do you think one of the two of us must be scum? (If you're going by Lynch All Liars)
I understood where he was coming from with thinking I'm scum because of our previous game together. The second quote you have there is me considering Meg being town. I could see/understand a case for him being town, but there is so much crap coming out of his mouth and constant dodging of questions all game, etc. that I'm comfortable saying he's scum.
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This question was dodged again.
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I want to break this down:
First:
I'm not even sure what question you're talking about. I thought I've answered everything asked of me so far at least decently.
Can you quote the three times?
And, even if it were hypothetically true, that shouldn't give you a free pass on all of my questions.
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that you make it sound like you think I'm scum just because you've seen me playing scum before and you think I'm playing the same as I was then.
I'm not even close to attempting to hide behind any meta. This is just how I play.
The rest of the quote is just insults to me, or Meg repeating himself on "Get lynched."
Frankly, if you are in fact town this game, Meg, I definitely don't want any lessons from you.
Making a PBPA and pointing out MIAs over and over makes it seem like you're trying to say that it's scummy. Why do a PBPA if you aren't trying to say that? You could have just pointed out the important posts instead of a full PBPA.
The 396-400-401 trio sounds like he was writing as he went and his read changed along the way.
135 - I'm not sure. Maybe he just didn't notice it until his reread.
Just so we're clear I am going to be making sure you actually post this game. Your normal megalurking won't fly this time.
I definitely agree with that last part.
move your vote.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
It seems like just about everyone is agreeing that AGod is scummy. Why is nothing happening on that? Why isn't there an AGod wagon?
Iso's 452 is so ironic.
431 too.
Nothing was happening?
Iso is acting like he's doing things over and over, but he hasn't done anything in roughly a week. All he has done is say "lynch Karn." and throw out a stray question on occasion. A lot of posts, but very very little content. He's just trying to look active.
ER has disappeared.
Upon review, JeY has done absolutely nothing this game.
Ghosting is also remarkably nonexistent.
Man, there are a lot of lurkers this game.
A question that I don't think got enough attention: Why would Meg have to speculate on if a town PM had the confirmation line at the bottom of it or not, if he were town?
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I really dislike the mentalities some people have around this site (not exclusive to this game) that go something like:
"I think you're scum, therefore I won't answer any of your questions."
--and--
"If you think I'm scum, why do you care so much about my answers? I won't answer."
I see nothing townie about either of those mentalities and my mind is boggled when lots of people just let it slide over and over again.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
A deadline is being implemented. Day 1 will end on Thursday, August 1st around 7pm CST. This may change if content picks up from some of the players who haven't been posting much.
Voxxicus is being replaced. He reached his second prod within a short window, so for both his sake and the sake of the game I'm replacing him early.
Voxxicus was the only player in prod range, but there are a few players who are pretty close to it. If they don't post tomorrow, there will be a second round of prods going out.
That was extremely easy.
@Iso:
Saying "lol scum. Lynch him." over and over isn't contributing.
You can do other things while you're waiting for me to flip. You're tunneled hardcore right now, not even giving thoughts to other options for toDay.
What really gets me is how you made up your plan over a week ago and haven't swayed at all. Town gets doubts over that long of a time period staying on the same wagon (especially this early in the game). You (and Meg) have basically been riding me since right after RVS. It's really striking me as you thinking you could push an easy mislynch on someone you perceive to be a bad player. Then when I flip town you hope your constant cries of 'bad' and 'scum' got enough people to believe you so you didn't look too scummy to them.
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You should have posted that as soon as RVS ended
(because you've basically been v/la)
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player