I'm back!... at least til the end of the day. It's nice that we know that the cult leader is dying, and I'm not sure what to think about shooting fadeblue.
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Then, we must hope that mafia doesn't have a roleblocker amongst them, or Xyre is most likely to be roleblock until the end of the game... I now understand the full meaning of broken.
Is there someway we can make sure he'll be able to use it anyway ?
About Atlseal : that is weird. Actually, a lot of weird things are happening, it's just one more. And I don't know what to think of Azrael's avatar, but he did prove yesterday that he wasn't votable.
Alx: Az wouldn't confirm whether the specific plan will actually work. He just basically repeated that use of the avatar will nullify vote-based and kill-based abilities.
Regarding fade's claims about his role, I just feel the need to remind people that we are going on his word alone that use of the avatar is compulsory. Seems like a good decoy, no? Kraj is lynched and then fade comes back with a normal avatar to say that the cult is no more. Except it really isn't.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
Ok, well, someone left me a slice of Cake last night/ this morning.
I assumed Xyre was going for "You cannot eat ice cream without CAKE" not "a spoon."
The Cake caused me to hide in the restroom till the affect of it (no idea what that affect was, but I assume it was unpleasant) went away.
Also, this Agent avatar thing seems bizzare. There has to be a catch. I recomend no one use the avatar. Azrael would not create a rule that says "use the agent smith avatar and get a PRIZE!" without also having a pitfall.
Well, I'd be curious to hear what Grak has to say before I say anything more, and/or if he believes there is a reason for him to be hush about the specifics of what happened to him last night.
I'm now worried about this Cult again though. A Cult that requires the recruits to publicly declare themselves? And removes vote/kill abilities? That's incredibly sucky, unless they've got something major going for them.
:eyebrow:They could all be in on it. Just like be fore, they could, every single one of them, be in on it.
OK, deep, cleansing breath.
In, out, in, out.
Best to play along.
Play it cool.:cool2:I think it's very interesting. Each person recruited into the Agent Smith cult in Elegant Mafia were required to post a in the first post they made after being recruited. This was done because in a game that size the cult could have been very powerful since the Agent Smith cult leader could move from player to player. Funny how in both games the cult lead was found so early.
I do think there is more to the role then we know right now though. To be able to wipe them out so quickly is uncharacteristic of an Azrael designed role.
I also think that it is bunk that mafia could not be recruited. Fade was well up on my list of suspects before he ratted out Kraj and his posts since doing so make me think he is trying to gain an underserved degree of credibility by doing so.
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That seems like Xyre's ability, except maybe the untargetability(you were hiding) only lasted 1 night.
....
Man alot of random crap happens in this game.
I really think that just taking the word of someone that has been recruited(and of his recruiter) that we can completely foil the mafia by all adopting recruitee avatars at night is completely foolhardy. And 'not being able to vote' is obviously not a 'drawback' when you are at night. I think that it is safe to assume that Azrael would have foreseen something like we're talking about now.
Ok, well, someone left me a slice of Cake last night/ this morning.
I assumed Xyre was going for "You cannot eat ice cream without CAKE" not "a spoon."
The Cake caused me to hide in the restroom till the affect of it (no idea what that affect was, but I assume it was unpleasant) went away.
I don't know, I don't buy this. You can't eat ice cream without cake? That's not the first thing I thought of when Xyre said that. In fact, I never thought of cake. Spoon and bowl were the things that came to mind. You know, the stuff that actually needs to be there to eat ice cream?
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:eyebrow:They could all be in on it. Just like be fore, they could, every single one of them, be in on it.
OK, deep, cleansing breath.
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Best to play along.
Play it cool.:cool2:I think it's very interesting. Each person recruited into the Agent Smith cult in Elegant Mafia were required to post a in the first post they made after being recruited. This was done because in a game that size the cult could have been very powerful since the Agent Smith cult leader could move from player to player. Funny how in both games the cult lead was found so early.
I do think there is more to the role then we know right now though. To be able to wipe them out so quickly is uncharacteristic of an Azrael designed role.
I also think that it is bunk that mafia could not be recruited. Fade was well up on my list of suspects before he ratted out Kraj and his posts since doing so make me think he is trying to gain an underserved degree of credibility by doing so.
Wow, a lot's happened since i last posted. Yikes!
Hawkeye, as much as i agreed with you yesterday, I have yet to see a cult that recruit mafia that was really balenced per se. Remember random 1? A cult recruiting Az-mafia made the game really nutso.
Now it is an az game, so perhaps he found a way to fix it, but its rather strange i'd think.
Xyre's spoon ability is interesting...obviously, whoever gets the spoon tomorrow should please just SHUT UP and not give away the ability to the mafia.
I am AGAINST the avatar plan. For all we know, the cult win condition is for everyone in the town to be using the avatar. I suspect the "benefits" fade mentioned are more likely to be just standard cult effects (loss of all previous abilities is standard for most cults).
Kraj is obviously the play. I'm NOT in favor of vigging fade, b/c of the whole avatar thing. If fade switches his back i'll be convinced he's reverted (I mean, if the avatar thing was bogus, why would he risk changing it and being noticed in the first place?
Anyhow, I'm out till later tonight.
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In fairness, timing becomes an issue there, I think. Axelrod didn't become untargetable until after he 'accepted' the spoon, which could have easily been after you targeted him. Besides, if it is 'not a good point' for anyone, it would be for Xyre, as he is the one that told us what the abilties do.
Ok, well, someone left me a slice of Cake last night/ this morning.
I assumed Xyre was going for "You cannot eat ice cream without CAKE" not "a spoon."
The Cake caused me to hide in the restroom till the affect of it (no idea what that affect was, but I assume it was unpleasant) went away.
Also, this Agent avatar thing seems bizzare. There has to be a catch. I recomend no one use the avatar. Azrael would not create a rule that says "use the agent smith avatar and get a PRIZE!" without also having a pitfall.
I just want to say that the person I targeted last night was Grakthis. So I guess what happened to me more or less makes sense now.
I have watched Axelrod. Xyre hid some unknow metallic object, into his store. Unless an ice-cream can be made out of metal, it was definitely not an ice-cream.
I just wanted to ask, why Axel? If all NKs would have to go through Cyan first, wouldn't it be better to be watching Cyan?
I don't know, I don't buy this. You can't eat ice cream without cake? That's not the first thing I thought of when Xyre said that. In fact, I never thought of cake. Spoon and bowl were the things that came to mind. You know, the stuff that actually needs to be there to eat ice cream?
Yes, clearly, you don't buy it. It was all an elaborate scheme to trick you into thinking I got cake last night. You caught me.
Oh.. no... wait... that's dumb.
Do you know what the concept of suggestion is?
Since I've been looking all day for someone hinting about cake, in the off chance it was a townie ability... and someone says "you can't eat ice cream without......"?
Haven't you ever played one of those games where a set of questions are asked and then a final question is asked and everyone answers wrong the same way? It's called suggestion.
I have watched Axelrod. Xyre hid some unknow metallic object, into his store.
Store?
Since I was able to successfully target Axelrod, that's not a good point for him.
Nah, there's no particular reason why the untargetability would kick in before your ability "resolved". Assuming everyone's telling the truth for a second, you saw Xyre deliver the spoon- there's no flavourful sense why you can't watch Axelrod up to the point that Xyre gives him the spoon. I don't think this is either here nor there for whether Axel is scum.
I'm not really sure how much I believe ZDS. He could have just thrown that together from information that was already available. And it seems odd that he would gain an ability and be able to use it, in the same night.
But I guess we've learned that timing is a big factor in this game(ZDS was able to watch Axelrod, presumably because Axel had not yet accepted the spoon, but Alx was unable to find Grak, presumably because Grak HAD already accepted the cake)
Oh btw, I think that Alx is scum. His role seems more relevant as mafia(especially considering that the last time we saw that type of role, it was on a mafioso, in Trek). Also, targeting Grak with an ability that gains role info doesn't really make any sense to me. He's one of the few people in the game that hasn't seemed scummy at all.
Anyway, it seems like a good time to get on with lynching Kraj, and I really do think it would be foolish to leave FB alive. Yes, he confessed to being the cultist, but only because we were going to string up ZDS, and FB would have 0 chance of living if found out later, due to this. Also, the notion that the recruits can't be NKed and the CL can't be lynched seems pretty ridiculous...both of these things need to be tested, IMO.
I disagree about the timing. I sent my night action only a couple of hours after the lynch scene. There's no way the cake thing could've played out by then, with all the back-and-forth PMs.
Also, Cyan's vote of confidence is appreciated. When I'll explain exactly how my role works and what kind of info I get (or don't get), you'll see it's a town ability. And, you'll also see why I targeted Grakthis. Not today of course.
Yes, I agree that we may go on with the lynch now, and with vigging fadeblue. I am still against vigging any of the masons. As for ZDS, we'll see tomorrow, since he's likely to watch someone else. But I think the spoon does not make someone untargetable (or we would have two roles that do the samething, with the cake). About the timing thing, it seems that ZDS only gained the ability to watch late in the night : Vampyr said that ZDS told him about his new ability "yesterday" (which was the last day of the night) ; and if Xyre thought the spoon would be able to make someone untargetable, I am pretty sure he would have done it the sooner possible. Therefore, I think ZDS acted after Xyre. So I do not know what exactly does the spoon, but... it seems that Xyre may be trying to fool us. FoS Xyre ; we shall discuss this tomorrow after he'll have given the second spoon. I think it might be somehow be related to Spoon (the player), as his blue votes are still unexplained.
Agreed with RafK, we lynch Kraj, if he doesn't die, we vig him. If he does, we vig Fade. There is simply no margin for doubt here, if we don't deal with him now, and later we think he's a threat, then we have to worry further about if the cult can still recruit once he's dead.
I disagree about the timing. I sent my night action only a couple of hours after the lynch scene. There's no way the cake thing could've played out by then, with all the back-and-forth PMs.
Okay, why would back-and-forth PMs be required just to send a cake?
About the timing thing, it seems that ZDS only gained the ability to watch late in the night : Vampyr said that ZDS told him about his new ability "yesterday" (which was the last day of the night) ; and if Xyre thought the spoon would be able to make someone untargetable, I am pretty sure he would have done it the sooner possible. Therefore, I think ZDS acted after Xyre. So I do not know what exactly does the spoon, but... it seems that Xyre may be trying to fool us. FoS Xyre ; we shall discuss this tomorrow after he'll have given the second spoon. I think it might be somehow be related to Spoon (the player), as his blue votes are still unexplained.
Vampyr could mean 'yesterday' as in sometimes during the entire length of the night, or even during Day 1 itself, if they really can day-talk.
We were working with the logic that Grak had to accept the cake, like Axelrod had to accept the spoon. But I suppose that the cake could just be an auto-accept thing. It's hard to imagine what kind of character would give away cake..but whatever.
Vote Kraj. It's time to move things along, I think.
In fairness, timing becomes an issue there, I think. Axelrod didn't become untargetable until after he 'accepted' the spoon, which could have easily been after you targeted him. Besides, if it is 'not a good point' for anyone, it would be for Xyre, as he is the one that told us what the abilties do.
Or it says that Axelrod is mafia and is +2 to lynch, although now that I remember who Axelrod is, it's not as likely.
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It's hard to imagine what kind of character would give away cake..but whatever.
Grak, did you do anything... particular... while spending time in the bathroom? ;):D
(Hmm... not quite a strong enough hint...)
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Maybe not even that's good enough...
I'm not going to come out and say what I think is up with the cake if you haven't got it by now. Instead, I'll post a link because this scene is hilarious.
vs. spoon --> untargetable, is troubling. It seems they ought to work the same way, and they really ought not to depend on who sends in their response first.
Vamp: can you confirm that ZDS told you he had watcher abilities and was going to watch me? Did he later tell you what the result was?
I guess we are waiting for the lynch scene, but maybe someone can answer this before we go.
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vs. spoon --> untargetable, is troubling. It seems they ought to work the same way, and they really ought not to depend on who sends in their response first.
Vamp: can you confirm that ZDS told you he had watcher abilities and was going to watch me? Did he later tell you what the result was?
I guess we are waiting for the lynch scene, but maybe someone can answer this before we go.
Timing seems to be an issue of some concern. A timing related question came up in a question I asked Azrael and he said submit order was NOT RELEVANT.
Here is my concern... if we end the day, does ATL die for not posting his smilie face? Should we wait and see if he returns? Or did he post it already?
It seems to me that Xyre ought to know if his ability is effective the same night he sends the spoon. Cause if it is, then ZDS would seem to be not telling the truth. If not, then it could still all be good.
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We were working with the logic that Grak had to accept the cake, like Axelrod had to accept the spoon. But I suppose that the cake could just be an auto-accept thing. It's hard to imagine what kind of character would give away cake..but whatever.
Vote Kraj. It's time to move things along, I think.
I can think of at least one or two characters that would send someone else cake, and I doubt that they are townie sources. Taking sweets from strangers is something my mother always told me not to do.
What ? Basically, it would have been an auto-win if you succesfully targeted scum (because he would have revealed at once the name of his ex-buddies) ?
None. I almost used it, but I chickened out since I didn't feel strongly enough about anyone.
By the way, a thought: I would guess that CP's multi-vote ability is not what it seems. The way he's been evasive about it suggests to me anti-town motive, though my current theory behind it seems more town. I would very much recommend having the town test it again at some point, but without placing votes on him.
Vamp: can you confirm that ZDS told you he had watcher abilities and was going to watch me? Did he later tell you what the result was?
Yes he told me about the watcher ability and who he planned on watching. He told me a result, but not until after Xyre mentioned something in the game thread.
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It's interesting that Atlseal's vote still counts, even though he has 'disappeared'.
Is there someway we can make sure he'll be able to use it anyway ?
About Atlseal : that is weird. Actually, a lot of weird things are happening, it's just one more. And I don't know what to think of Azrael's avatar, but he did prove yesterday that he wasn't votable.
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1) Lynch Kraj;
2) If Kraj doesn't die, vig him; or
3) If Kraj does die and there is no mod-confirmation that the cult is eliminated, vig fade for safety.
I also still want to hear from ZDS before the end of the day.
I assumed Xyre was going for "You cannot eat ice cream without CAKE" not "a spoon."
The Cake caused me to hide in the restroom till the affect of it (no idea what that affect was, but I assume it was unpleasant) went away.
Also, this Agent avatar thing seems bizzare. There has to be a catch. I recomend no one use the avatar. Azrael would not create a rule that says "use the agent smith avatar and get a PRIZE!" without also having a pitfall.
:eyebrow:They could all be in on it. Just like be fore, they could, every single one of them, be in on it.
OK, deep, cleansing breath.
In, out, in, out.
Best to play along.
Play it cool.:cool2:I think it's very interesting. Each person recruited into the Agent Smith cult in Elegant Mafia were required to post a in the first post they made after being recruited. This was done because in a game that size the cult could have been very powerful since the Agent Smith cult leader could move from player to player. Funny how in both games the cult lead was found so early.
I do think there is more to the role then we know right now though. To be able to wipe them out so quickly is uncharacteristic of an Azrael designed role.
I also think that it is bunk that mafia could not be recruited. Fade was well up on my list of suspects before he ratted out Kraj and his posts since doing so make me think he is trying to gain an underserved degree of credibility by doing so.
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Man alot of random crap happens in this game.
I really think that just taking the word of someone that has been recruited(and of his recruiter) that we can completely foil the mafia by all adopting recruitee avatars at night is completely foolhardy. And 'not being able to vote' is obviously not a 'drawback' when you are at night. I think that it is safe to assume that Azrael would have foreseen something like we're talking about now.
I don't know, I don't buy this. You can't eat ice cream without cake? That's not the first thing I thought of when Xyre said that. In fact, I never thought of cake. Spoon and bowl were the things that came to mind. You know, the stuff that actually needs to be there to eat ice cream?
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Wow, a lot's happened since i last posted. Yikes!
Hawkeye, as much as i agreed with you yesterday, I have yet to see a cult that recruit mafia that was really balenced per se. Remember random 1? A cult recruiting Az-mafia made the game really nutso.
Now it is an az game, so perhaps he found a way to fix it, but its rather strange i'd think.
Xyre's spoon ability is interesting...obviously, whoever gets the spoon tomorrow should please just SHUT UP and not give away the ability to the mafia.
I am AGAINST the avatar plan. For all we know, the cult win condition is for everyone in the town to be using the avatar. I suspect the "benefits" fade mentioned are more likely to be just standard cult effects (loss of all previous abilities is standard for most cults).
Kraj is obviously the play. I'm NOT in favor of vigging fade, b/c of the whole avatar thing. If fade switches his back i'll be convinced he's reverted (I mean, if the avatar thing was bogus, why would he risk changing it and being noticed in the first place?
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I just want to say that the person I targeted last night was Grakthis. So I guess what happened to me more or less makes sense now.
I can support the above plan.
I just wanted to ask, why Axel? If all NKs would have to go through Cyan first, wouldn't it be better to be watching Cyan?
You sent Grak a cake? Or is it because Grak received a cake that you couldn't target him?
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Yes, clearly, you don't buy it. It was all an elaborate scheme to trick you into thinking I got cake last night. You caught me.
Oh.. no... wait... that's dumb.
Do you know what the concept of suggestion is?
Since I've been looking all day for someone hinting about cake, in the off chance it was a townie ability... and someone says "you can't eat ice cream without......"?
Haven't you ever played one of those games where a set of questions are asked and then a final question is asked and everyone answers wrong the same way? It's called suggestion.
Ok. So, apparently the cake was a POSITIVE thing, not a NEGATIVE thing. Well, in the sense that it made me untargetable.
I was worried it was poison or something.
Store?
Since I was able to successfully target Axelrod, that's not a good point for him.
Nah, there's no particular reason why the untargetability would kick in before your ability "resolved". Assuming everyone's telling the truth for a second, you saw Xyre deliver the spoon- there's no flavourful sense why you can't watch Axelrod up to the point that Xyre gives him the spoon. I don't think this is either here nor there for whether Axel is scum.
I don't know - like I said, Az was rather vague about the whole thing.
And I'm still not sure who to give it to - yet.
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But I guess we've learned that timing is a big factor in this game(ZDS was able to watch Axelrod, presumably because Axel had not yet accepted the spoon, but Alx was unable to find Grak, presumably because Grak HAD already accepted the cake)
Oh btw, I think that Alx is scum. His role seems more relevant as mafia(especially considering that the last time we saw that type of role, it was on a mafioso, in Trek). Also, targeting Grak with an ability that gains role info doesn't really make any sense to me. He's one of the few people in the game that hasn't seemed scummy at all.
Anyway, it seems like a good time to get on with lynching Kraj, and I really do think it would be foolish to leave FB alive. Yes, he confessed to being the cultist, but only because we were going to string up ZDS, and FB would have 0 chance of living if found out later, due to this. Also, the notion that the recruits can't be NKed and the CL can't be lynched seems pretty ridiculous...both of these things need to be tested, IMO.
Also, Cyan's vote of confidence is appreciated. When I'll explain exactly how my role works and what kind of info I get (or don't get), you'll see it's a town ability. And, you'll also see why I targeted Grakthis. Not today of course.
I'm off to lunch, more later.
V/LA: 3/21-3/24 & 3/27-3/29
Okay, why would back-and-forth PMs be required just to send a cake?
Vampyr could mean 'yesterday' as in sometimes during the entire length of the night, or even during Day 1 itself, if they really can day-talk.
We'll make you an offer you can't refuse.
Hosting: Vista Mafia
Hosted: Intrigue Mafia (Mini), Seance #43 (Basic), Conflux Mafia (Normal), Goo Mafia (FTQ), Experiment #26 (Basic)
Ongoing/Completed - 0/41
Town/Mafia/SK/Survivor - 30/6/4/1
NKed/Lynched/Survived - 15/11/15
Vote Kraj. It's time to move things along, I think.
8 Kraj-Atlseal, Abbey, Spoon, Xyre, ZDS, J-Effe IV, Hawkeye7, Cyan
Not Voting- Fadeblue, DYH, Axelrod, Kraj, Alx2, Pod, Vampyr, Dagger, Sutherlands, Rafaelk, Loran16, Carrion Pigeons, Grakthis
With 20 alive, it's 11 to lynch.
I, also, support the above plan. I say we vig fadeblue UNLESS the avatar is removed and the hidden rule shows up.
Or it was just the flavor of a roleblock...
Or it says that Axelrod is mafia and is +2 to lynch, although now that I remember who Axelrod is, it's not as likely.
8 Kraj-Atlseal, Abbey, Spoon, Xyre, ZDS, J-Effe IV, Hawkeye7, Cyan
Hey, you! Yeah, you behind the computer screen! You're unconstitutional.
America == Velociraptor
Play IRC mafia. (/join #mafia)
Agreed.
I have nothing significant left to say today. I'm willing to proceed with the lynch. Vote Kraj
The next one should be the hammer.
We'll make you an offer you can't refuse.
Hosting: Vista Mafia
Hosted: Intrigue Mafia (Mini), Seance #43 (Basic), Conflux Mafia (Normal), Goo Mafia (FTQ), Experiment #26 (Basic)
Ongoing/Completed - 0/41
Town/Mafia/SK/Survivor - 30/6/4/1
NKed/Lynched/Survived - 15/11/15
11 Kraj-Atlseal, Abbey, Spoon, Xyre, ZDS, J-Effe IV, Hawkeye7, Cyan, alx, Dagger, Sutherlands
Hey, you! Yeah, you behind the computer screen! You're unconstitutional.
America == Velociraptor
Play IRC mafia. (/join #mafia)
Grak, did you do anything... particular... while spending time in the bathroom? ;):D
(Hmm... not quite a strong enough hint...)
Maybe not even that's good enough...
I'm not going to come out and say what I think is up with the cake if you haven't got it by now. Instead, I'll post a link because this scene is hilarious.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RtU0-WJnwi0
And if you still need clarification, well, let's just hope you don't get it through Grak answering that first question.
vs. spoon --> untargetable, is troubling. It seems they ought to work the same way, and they really ought not to depend on who sends in their response first.
Vamp: can you confirm that ZDS told you he had watcher abilities and was going to watch me? Did he later tell you what the result was?
I guess we are waiting for the lynch scene, but maybe someone can answer this before we go.
Yeah, I kinda re-read the PM and it's VERY non-specific about what it did to me and how I felt about it.
It just said it did something unexpected and I hid in the bathroom till it passed (paraphrased, obv).
You're theory here could be entirely valid, though somewhat disturbing.
Maybe it was also a roleblock? Nothing hinted that it was, but I also didn't use any abilities last night.
Timing seems to be an issue of some concern. A timing related question came up in a question I asked Azrael and he said submit order was NOT RELEVANT.
Here is my concern... if we end the day, does ATL die for not posting his smilie face? Should we wait and see if he returns? Or did he post it already?
What I mean is, maybe it was both?
I can think of at least one or two characters that would send someone else cake, and I doubt that they are townie sources. Taking sweets from strangers is something my mother always told me not to do.
I was originally Veil, townie nullifier. I have a chance of turning someone vanilla (10% plus an additional 10% per dead townie).
None. I almost used it, but I chickened out since I didn't feel strongly enough about anyone.
By the way, a thought: I would guess that CP's multi-vote ability is not what it seems. The way he's been evasive about it suggests to me anti-town motive, though my current theory behind it seems more town. I would very much recommend having the town test it again at some point, but without placing votes on him.
Just for the record, I do NOT support killing you.
Ratting out Kraj's lie only makes sense if you believe you will turn back on his death.
Yes he told me about the watcher ability and who he planned on watching. He told me a result, but not until after Xyre mentioned something in the game thread.
PM me if you have any to trade or sell.
Games finished:17
Games ongoing:1
Town/Mafia/Other - 13/2/2
Won/Lost/replaced/modkilled- 4/13/3/1
NK'ed(vig'ed)/Lynched/Endgamed(Survived) - 7(2)/5/5(1)
Matrix Mafia Town MVP
Medieval Mafia Mafia MVP
Ye have enemies? Good, good - it means ye've stood up for something, sometime in thy life. - Elminster of Shadowdale
11 Kraj-Atlseal, Abbey, Spoon, Xyre, ZDS, J-Effe IV, Hawkeye7, Cyan, Alx2, Dagger, Sutherlands
Not Voting- Fadeblue, DYH, Axelrod, Kraj, Pod, Vampyr, Rafaelk, Loran16, Carrion Pigeons, Grakthis
With 20 alive, it's 11 to lynch.
Day continues.
Well then.
PM me if you have any to trade or sell.
Games finished:17
Games ongoing:1
Town/Mafia/Other - 13/2/2
Won/Lost/replaced/modkilled- 4/13/3/1
NK'ed(vig'ed)/Lynched/Endgamed(Survived) - 7(2)/5/5(1)
Matrix Mafia Town MVP
Medieval Mafia Mafia MVP
Ye have enemies? Good, good - it means ye've stood up for something, sometime in thy life. - Elminster of Shadowdale
You may continue to post for the next few minutes until the scene is up.
PM me if you have any to trade or sell.
Games finished:17
Games ongoing:1
Town/Mafia/Other - 13/2/2
Won/Lost/replaced/modkilled- 4/13/3/1
NK'ed(vig'ed)/Lynched/Endgamed(Survived) - 7(2)/5/5(1)
Matrix Mafia Town MVP
Medieval Mafia Mafia MVP
Ye have enemies? Good, good - it means ye've stood up for something, sometime in thy life. - Elminster of Shadowdale
Kraj, The Program formerly known as Agent Smith, seizes Abbeygargoyle by the throat, constricting his windpipe until his eyes roll up into his head and he goes limp.
The town leaps into action, firing bullets, throwing punches, sailing through the air feet-first. But Smith is indomitable. Bullets freeze inches away from his suit. His hands deflect attacks effortlessly. He is a blur of constant motion. A single punch launches Spoon down the steps of the mall, grunting with every impact.
"Do you hear that? That is the sound of inevitability."
The town struggles on, refusing to retreat. One by one, he wears you down. One by one, they fall panting to the blood-stained glass floor, beaten to a pulp or full of bullet-holes. At last, only Sutherlands remains, standing with his back to the glass. Behind his sunglasses, Smith smiles, reloads his Desert Eagle, and closes in.
"I'm going to enjoy watching you die."
At last, the entire room is suffused by a burst of white light. There is a cacophony of sound, all within the space of an instant.
Sutherlands dives out of the way. Smith's body plunges through the glass, face-first. His sunglasses fly from his face, out into empty space. A hole the size of a basketball is drilled into his stomach, glowing white-hot. As he falls, the glow spreads, eating away at him piece by piece. When he finally hits the pavement, there is nothing left of him but black smoke, drifting on the wind.
One of the town's greatest enemies has fallen. But the nightmare is not yet over, and the world continues to fall into darkness. Much work remains to be done.
Alas, the strain appears to have been too much for poor Sutherlands. Once again, he falls into a seizure, only to be replaced by a facsimile of himself.
Living Players- 19/23
1. Loran16
2. Spoon
3. Fadeblue
4. DYH
5. Rafaelk
6. Axelrod
7. J-Effe IV (Replacing Wizzpig)
8. Hawkeye7
9. Grakthis
10. Alx2
11. Abbeygargoyle
12. Cyan
13. Xyre
14. ZDS
15. Pod
16. Vampyr
17. Carrion Pigeons
18. Dagger
19. To be announced tonight (replacing Sutherlands, replacing H_C, replacing MJM, replacing Sutherlands)
Replacements- 10
1. Sorryguy
2. Charmmaster 3125
3. Chamber
4. MD
5. Niv-Mizzet
6. Jobie
7. Treigit
8. Silent Prophet
9. Kops
10. WoLG
In Limbo
1. Atlseal
2. Hunted_Charlie
3. Sutherlands
The Dead-5
0. Dwight McCarthy, Townie Mod Persona. Bled to death near an alley.
1. Arimnaes, Agent Gray, Townie Detention Specialist. Shot from behind, day one.
2. Hvirfilvindr, Alice, Townie Reflector. Lost her head, day one.
3. LJustus, Sati, Townie Sacrificial Lamb. Bitted and drained, night one.
4. Kraj, The Program Formerly Known as Agent Smith. Blown away day two.
Night two has fallen. The deadline for night actions is August 2nd, 11:00 A.M., EST.