Also, Ecophagy, if you have an opinion on whether kpaca or Bilbroxain should go tomorrow, now would probably be a good time, as I assume that you will be gone after tomorrow. It will end up being down to me, sandsoft, kpaca, and Bilbroxain.
In the off chance that I die tonight, I think Bilbroxain should be lynched tomorrow, for the reasons I've already articulated.
Also, Ecophagy, if you have an opinion on whether kpaca or Bilbroxain should go tomorrow, now would probably be a good time, as I assume that you will be gone after tomorrow. It will end up being down to me, sandsoft, kpaca, and Bilbroxain.
In the off chance that I die tonight, I think Bilbroxain should be lynched tomorrow, for the reasons I've already articulated.
You are quite right, I am next in line to die. Especially if we lynch the roleblocker.
I'll have a read over both of them and post my thoughts
You are quite right, I am next in line to die. Especially if we lynch the roleblocker.
I'll have a read over both of them and post my thoughts
Typically, one isn't allowed to use an ability (e.g., roleblock) and perform the nightkill in the same night. The rules could be different here. Either way, you're probably going down.
Typically, one isn't allowed to use an ability (e.g., roleblock) and perform the nightkill in the same night. The rules could be different here. Either way, you're probably going down.
ah yes, that did occur to me. That would make me a very good target in that case...
eep
initially, I leaned towards kapca -- he has posted some very self contradictory statements (most notably, where he puts a "major FOS" on me in post #218, only to put my actions down to town noobishness in #227)
However, looking at Yare's big post on this topic, bearing in mind Weeping Willow's fantastic and utter lack of content, and refusal to have and stick to an opinion; As well as Bilbroxians recent posts (namely, providing weak arguments, engaging self-preservation mode, speed voting for ikkleste only because he voted slowly for sephiroth in the hope of preserving a shred of towness) I am of the opinion that Bilbroxian is scum
I am not going to hammer Ikkleste now because I am not 100% sure on him (though taking the "whatever remains" approach leads him to be scum) and I don't want to end the day too fast.
I will give Ikkleste once last chance to defend himself, and allow other comments.
Well, I (and presumably, "we") am going to be voting to get rid of him in another day or so, so he's effectively been prodded regardless. Replacing him at this point would be pretty irrelevant. I suppose he could be modkilled for inactivity, but that would be kind of silly.
My claim: hmmm well I'm not going to counter claim the doc, I'm vanilla town.
But we've got something here I'm a half bottle of flat soda. This seems to me too close for comfort to kpaca's flat beer. Seems wonky to me, although i guess it's possible? What do you guys think?
That was his claim, and a weak shot at kpaca.
I think your vote puts him at -1.
Assuming someone else comes in and hammers him, I am likely to be NK.
On that basis, good luck tomorrow, its been a fun game!
Crickets chirped for a while, and then Ecophagy suddenly shouts, "GTFO!" which is followed by a swift kick to ikkleste's silent ass. He falls to the cripser drawer with a THUNK and topples over. His top opens and spills chunky curds all over the place. The stench is unbearable. He was obviously Curdled Milk, Vanilla Mafia.
It is now night 4. Night actions are due by this time tomorrow.
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Kpaca will just keep saying that I'm scum.
I will just keep saying that he's scum.
There seems to be an equal amount of evidence supporting each side for you and SS_B.
You and SS_B will have to agree on the lynch, or else there will be no lynch.
The decision is up to the two of you. There is nothing more that Kpaca or I can do about it.
Kpaca will just keep saying that I'm scum.
I will just keep saying that he's scum.
There seems to be an equal amount of evidence supporting each side for you and SS_B.
You and SS_B will have to agree on the lynch, or else there will be no lynch.
The decision is up to the two of you. There is nothing more that Kpaca or I can do about it.
But you knew this was coming. There was a presumption that we were going to lynch you if you didn't defend yourself. And yet, you didn't defend yourself. You even told us we were going to discuss it:
We will disscuss my innocence vs. Kpaca's tomorrow.
Yet you haven't produced anything to suggest that you're not scum other than your bald assertion that we are lacking "definitive proof," something very difficult to come by in a game of mafia.
I mean, what else am I supposed to do but vote for you if you won't even defend yourself? If you're really town, show me why I should vote for kpaca instead of you. Either show why you're town or show why he is scum. Based upon my thorough analysis, it seems fairly obvious that you're the scum. However, as you surely have noticed, I haven't voted yet.
Oh don't get me wrong I'm not protecting seph cause he's a good guy, or protecting him at all really. I'm just drawing as many conclusions as I can too make the best decision when casting my vote, and sharing my ideas with the rest of the town so hopefully we can get a scum day one. And don't worry about saying no hard feelings, very rarely is it personal in mafia.
Kpaca stating that he was not "protecting" sephiroth (whom we now know as scum). He think attacked me for the same thing later.
Right!
I've finally finished making notes and have decided to get a post on the go >.<
Different sections for different analysises on peoples...
Votes hshadowa even though the lynch has been confirmed.
This seems completely pointless and raises suspicions as to why he might feel the need to appear super-conforming to town behaviours.
Sandsoft mentions that they are trying to fit into the crowd, and Ace explains that jumping on a bandwagon is not a bad thing, however, in post 115 he tries to imply jumping on bandwagons is a bad idea (possibly even scummy).
He is then challenged on it a little in following posts, and soon retracts the allegations announcing 'no hard feelings'.
Like Ace, post-lynch voting.
No-one has seen him since.
Not a great deal here I guess.
Votes hshadowa and sets up a 1-vote lynch.
In post 184, kman says he waited for people to investigate the claim before voting, but 10 minutes does not really cut waiting for other people (especially seeing as 2 voters were in the UK and probably asleep at that time.).
In post 178, you completely disregard the fact that ced has HoS'ed you and instead of defending yourself (because a HoS even if you don't know what it is, it must be bad) you just ask what it is. You could have added a little something else in here.
Ced did not vote for him. You gave NO-ONE who had voted for him a chance to reconsider. You gave him 10 minutes which is completely pointless. It just leaves the space open for 2 things.
1) You are scum and set up a 1-point lynch so that an unsuspecting newbie comes in and pops a town member down.
2) You are innocent, jumping on a bandwagon and giving that last mafia member the chance to pop in and kill off the helpless townie.
Completed the lynch following kman's dubious set-up vote.
As I've just mentioned, there are 2 viable possibilities here:
1) Kman is scum and has set you up as an unsuspecting newbie to mislynch hshadowa.
2) Kman has just jumped on the bandwagon and has accidentally set up a 1-point lynch opportunity, which you poach and we are one town member down.
From this post,
I am terribly inclined to believe the latter of the two options there as you do not dismiss the fact that you were left with the lynching vote (which you did NOT have to make at that time.)
That's all I can come up with at the moment. I'll give it another go at reading through later on (maybe tomorrow) and see if I can pick anything else out.
Notice Seph did not mention Kpaca. (he also didn't mention me, but this was shortly after I got in the game.
Way to make up a reason to get me accused, as most likely the only remaining non power role player. My friends, ikkleste, bilbroxain, and seph are scum.
Who is this we you speak of? What is clear to me is that "we" as in the town will vote out one of "you" as in you three, and then during the night I would guess that we will lose the doc who will save ecophagy, who will get a clear shot on one of you other three. And by that point the town win will be a lock. The only way I can see this failing is either scenario B or C from my previous post.
And this one reeks of fearmongering and misdirection.
There's my assault on kpaca. acknowledge it or ignore it. It's up to you two now. Don't let the last scum trick you.
So the case against me is I'm misdirected... misdirected how, in voting for you?? That and I wasn't mentioned by seph, but neither were you, or ikkleste. Weak argument.
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Because I see your first point as trying to make something out of nothing, and nothing more than a last ditch effort to make some sort of tangible case quickly, since you obviously hadn't planned on doing so. If you read the context of the conversation at the time, you will see that Ace expresses he feels that he wishes he hadn't raised an eyebrow at seph since he thought others were making seph untouchable (both me and ecophagy, the frickin cop, supported seph at this time). All I said was that I wasn't protecting Seph or comdemning Ace, I was just being objective, and then everyone continued with their lives. If you read the whole context, this makes since, if you try to take it as a stand alone post, it can contribute to your quick case.
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Because I see your first point as trying to make something out of nothing, and nothing more than a last ditch effort to make some sort of tangible case quickly, since you obviously hadn't planned on doing so. If you read the context of the conversation at the time, you will see that Ace expresses he feels that he wishes he hadn't raised an eyebrow at seph since he thought others were making seph untouchable (both me and ecophagy, the frickin cop, supported seph at this time). All I said was that I wasn't protecting Seph or comdemning Ace, I was just being objective, and then everyone continued with their lives. If you read the whole context, this makes since, if you try to take it as a stand alone post, it can contribute to your quick case.
And, if you add the context of my later point in which you attack me for protecting Kman, where I said I wasn't, it becomes more than just "something out of nothing". It becomes you being hypocritical.
If you could find this post and quote it I would respond, but I've looked for this and couldn't find it. The people I found questioning you for defending Kman were Sandsoft and Ced.
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I am still Cocktail sauce, vanilla townie. I am also ripping through the thread, looking for kpaca's accusatory posts, but am currently finding more of kpaca ignoring my existance.
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I am very curious to hear ikkleste's take on things, since he appears to be next in the firing line.
Stay the course. Vote ikkleste.
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In the off chance that I die tonight, I think Bilbroxain should be lynched tomorrow, for the reasons I've already articulated.
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You are quite right, I am next in line to die. Especially if we lynch the roleblocker.
I'll have a read over both of them and post my thoughts
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ah yes, that did occur to me. That would make me a very good target in that case...
eep
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Waiting on Ecophagy.
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initially, I leaned towards kapca -- he has posted some very self contradictory statements (most notably, where he puts a "major FOS" on me in post #218, only to put my actions down to town noobishness in #227)
However, looking at Yare's big post on this topic, bearing in mind Weeping Willow's fantastic and utter lack of content, and refusal to have and stick to an opinion; As well as Bilbroxians recent posts (namely, providing weak arguments, engaging self-preservation mode, speed voting for ikkleste only because he voted slowly for sephiroth in the hope of preserving a shred of towness) I am of the opinion that Bilbroxian is scum
I am not going to hammer Ikkleste now because I am not 100% sure on him (though taking the "whatever remains" approach leads him to be scum) and I don't want to end the day too fast.
I will give Ikkleste once last chance to defend himself, and allow other comments.
IMO, that just makes Bilbroxian look worse.
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Vote Ikkleste
I want him to be at claim point...
That was his claim, and a weak shot at kpaca.
I think your vote puts him at -1.
Assuming someone else comes in and hammers him, I am likely to be NK.
On that basis, good luck tomorrow, its been a fun game!
Quite frankly, I wanted him at claim point for the allowance of last words...
ikkleste - 4 (Bilbroxain, Ecophagy, kpaca, sandsoft_blue)
Deliberations were short.
"ikkleste, you're scum. Period," Yare stated plainly.
"Yup," said just about everyone else.
Crickets chirped for a while, and then Ecophagy suddenly shouts, "GTFO!" which is followed by a swift kick to ikkleste's silent ass. He falls to the cripser drawer with a THUNK and topples over. His top opens and spills chunky curds all over the place. The stench is unbearable. He was obviously Curdled Milk, Vanilla Mafia.
It is now night 4. Night actions are due by this time tomorrow.
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It is now day 5.
With 4 alive it is 3 to lynch.
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Because Kpaca is scum. Vote Kpaca.
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Seriously?
I mean, you've had...what...six days to come up with some way of defending yourself and this is the best you have? You've known this was coming...
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Kpaca will just keep saying that I'm scum.
I will just keep saying that he's scum.
There seems to be an equal amount of evidence supporting each side for you and SS_B.
You and SS_B will have to agree on the lynch, or else there will be no lynch.
The decision is up to the two of you. There is nothing more that Kpaca or I can do about it.
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But you knew this was coming. There was a presumption that we were going to lynch you if you didn't defend yourself. And yet, you didn't defend yourself. You even told us we were going to discuss it:
Yet you haven't produced anything to suggest that you're not scum other than your bald assertion that we are lacking "definitive proof," something very difficult to come by in a game of mafia.
I mean, what else am I supposed to do but vote for you if you won't even defend yourself? If you're really town, show me why I should vote for kpaca instead of you. Either show why you're town or show why he is scum. Based upon my thorough analysis, it seems fairly obvious that you're the scum. However, as you surely have noticed, I haven't voted yet.
This is your chance. I suggest you take it.
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Kpaca stating that he was not "protecting" sephiroth (whom we now know as scum). He think attacked me for the same thing later.
Notice Seph did not mention Kpaca. (he also didn't mention me, but this was shortly after I got in the game.
This post simply reeks of misdirection.
And this one reeks of fearmongering and misdirection.
There's my assault on kpaca. acknowledge it or ignore it. It's up to you two now. Don't let the last scum trick you.
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GL town!
And, if you add the context of my later point in which you attack me for protecting Kman, where I said I wasn't, it becomes more than just "something out of nothing". It becomes you being hypocritical.
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Weeping Widow was extremely suspicious before she left, and Bilbro hasn't helped that rep.
Vote Bilbroxain
Would you like to claim something (again or otherwise)?
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True celebration? Or just setting up an especially sweet scum celebration?
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