Can there be a rule that should a moderator (or anyone) give out a spam/flame/anything warning, that person is now required to PM that member who got the warning and let him or her know?
It's not fair to just give out warnings never knowing if that person is going to come back and look at it.
The mod's try to PM those that are warned , but when your moderating a mass batch it can sometimes be forgotten , but all warnings are clearly logged in mod forum so we can check back on details if they are required.
Really? cause when i got my suspension (which i still believe was bogus), i had amassed 5 warnings, without a single notice. No one told me, and i rarely go back and read old posts. this really should be a required.
Really? cause when i got my suspension (which i still believe was bogus), i had amassed 5 warnings, without a single notice. No one told me, and i rarely go back and read old posts. this really should be a required.
Probably should be. However, if you're handing out, say, ten warnings when you get onto the forums, it often can get caught in the shuffle.
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Be aware of singing as if you were half dead,
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Be no more afraid of your voice now,
nor more ashamed of its being heard,
than when you sang the songs of Satan.
I think after most members post, they do go back to follow up on the threads, to see if anybody quoted them, asked them questions, or just wanted to see what other people think about the subject.
I'm sure the mods try to do their best about PMing people about warnings, but it is a very busy site, and posts are going up like crazy around here, so that may have been part of the reason.
would it be out of the question to have a mod whose sole responsibility is to check the warnings threads and Inform people that they have received a warning?
I was told that I have 5 warnings by TNK A.K.A. xeniphire, but when I asked another mod, he told me I had 4, I was only informed of 2 and I do go back and check my posts for this stuff. Futhermore, the person who turned in 2 of my warnings, didn't even say what thread they were in. There has got to be a better system, I reccomend giving each person access to their own warnings thread so that they can inquire about their warnings.
We have a new warning system we're checking into that will send an automatic PM to you with the type of warning, warning info, thread link etc., and also some sort of warning indicator under your avatar that makes it pretty easy to keep track of how many you have. Think of the warning bar as an erecting *****. It gets bigger and bigger, except finally you've taken too much of those ***** enlargment pills and it gets too big and explodes sending you to a room with a moose in another dimension.
4 warnings = 1 Week Vacation to The Room With a Moose
8 warnings = Permanent Trip to the Room With a Moose
Both result in being thrown to the Room With a Moose. Sometimes we let one or two more warnings slide by before we suspend you but its around that area. And your warnings are cumulative, they don't reset after suspension. So if you get 4 warnings, you're suspended for a week. When you come back, if you get 4 more, you're perm-moose'd.
However, if you're suspended and create a new account and we catch you, you will be sent to the Room under that account as well, as RangarFaramir512 (or whatever the number behind his name is) found out. If you're going to ban or suspend evade, atleast be smart enough to not use the same name except with an underscore in it instead...
This is a good warning system.
Hey Xenphire to you have a couple of Shopped cards you use for warning/bannings/suspension
cuase of the moosy fate and I saw you use a spma warning card somewhere.
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He shall summon forth the ancient ones
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then shall the elder signs be shattered. Trade Thread
This could have easily been handled by either the MOD who gave it editing the posts together, informing me of my mistake and having me edit them together, or informing me that i had made a mistake and that in the future to not double post. There was no reason for a warning. IT IS MY ONE AND ONLY DOUBLE POST IN THESE FORUMS. i have been good about going back and editing posts together where necesary.
Notice how the link doesn't go anywhere? Where is this alleged post? There is no number after the show post sh when the link was made, it was not made to a specific post.
Spam Warning - Comment on the Narcissism & Voyeurism thread, deleted.
Senori, who gave this warning, has told me that if given the oppurtunity again, he would merely delete the post and let it be. There was no bnotice in the open post (made my an admin midn you) that the thread was exclusicely for pictures (and that non picture posts weren't alowed).
Flame Warning - Calling ''a member'' a ''inser flame'' 3-year old" on the "Freedom of thought in schools" thread.
I used a simile to compare a members behavior (not the member himself) to a ****ing 3 year old. I didn't call DotP a ****ing 3 year old, i said his behavior (as outlined in the opening post of the thread) was like that of a "****ing 3 year old." (this is the only warning I received that has any validity.
I called a member an "MT reject" because they had been rejected from misetings in a vote by the members. He had been banned (rejected) and thusly, was a reject form there. Not a flame, a mere statement of fact. When you are rejected from a certain thing, you then become a reject by virtue of definition.
Thats five and their reasons.
Yes, thats five, and the reasons why they were bogus.
EDIT: It appears i miss-spoke, i do have 2 double posts (not an attempt to ++ or anything like that, simple mistakes) one received a warning, the other did not. but i was not informed of either of them, and its not like I'm some sort of spammer.
You know what, you're crusade is really useless and is really getting old, so drop it. Now. You were warned just as everyone else is for things. If you don't drop it you can go visit the Moose because quite honestly one of the things that annoys me most are the people who get warnings or punished as they should but then try and act like they did nothing.
You know what, you're crusade is really useless and is really getting old, so drop it. Now. You were warned just as everyone else is for things. If you don't drop it you can go visit the Moose because quite honestly one of the things that annoys me most are the people who get warnings or punished as they should but then try and act like they did nothing.
so wait, you are threatening to ban me for not breaking any rules? interesting.
and what annoys me, is when i get warnings for things that don't deserve warnings. Not a single one of my warnings was justified. whats with the one for the post that apparently doesn't exist? Its not like it supposed top go to a post that has been deletedc, THE URL DOES NOT CONTAIN A POST NUMBER. SO I WAS GIVEN A WARNING, THAT WAS CALLED A SPAM WARNING, BUT THERE IS NO EXPLANATION, AND NO POST TO SHOW FOR IT. This is a problem. It appears as though i received a warning for something that never happened.
I'm not breaking any rules, so any furhter attempts at banning or suspension (unless i break a rule) are abuses of power. and i thought you guys were striving to be better than scott.
Is there any warning system for stupidity? Like, you constantly make stupid non-spam posts that contribute nothing to the forum.
No. No, there is not, although, seldomly, I wish there were. But "Stupid" is subjective.
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Be aware of singing as if you were half dead,
or half asleep:
but lift your voice with strength.
Be no more afraid of your voice now,
nor more ashamed of its being heard,
than when you sang the songs of Satan.
so wait, you are threatening to ban me for not breaking any rules? interesting.
and what annoys me, is when i get warnings for things that don't deserve warnings. Not a single one of my warnings was justified. whats with the one for the post that apparently doesn't exist? Its not like it supposed top go to a post that has been deletedc, THE URL DOES NOT CONTAIN A POST NUMBER. SO I WAS GIVEN A WARNING, THAT WAS CALLED A SPAM WARNING, BUT THERE IS NO EXPLANATION, AND NO POST TO SHOW FOR IT. This is a problem. It appears as though i received a warning for something that never happened.
I'm not breaking any rules, so any furhter attempts at banning or suspension (unless i break a rule) are abuses of power. and i thought you guys were striving to be better than scott.
No I'm threatening to give you a warning because I find it really freaking annoying when people go around with the attitude that no matter what they're innocent and that's the exact thing you're doing. You've posted your bullcrap in multiple threads already and I'm tired of it. Maybe if you'd use your brain for a minute you'd realize that the thread it was in was either 1. deleted or 2. the post itself ended up being deleted. Furthermore as mods we can soft delete threads and posts where only the staff can see them. That's exactly why you don't go into the Forum Control whether it was an error in the usergroup or not because you end up not knowing what you're talking about. If anything going into the Forum Control when you realized you obviously weren't supposed to see it is grounds for suspension/banning alone. You know, you were originally banned on MTGnews, and I'm starting to see exactly why. All you're warnings are justified and were given under the staff's discretion and judgment which is overall pretty good. Your opinion is of no concern on the matter because obviously you think you're in the right for doing whatever got you your warning and you were obviously wrong, but we cannot convince you of that. This is the end of this discussion. Do not bring it up again.
And aside, on the stupidity subject: I personally won't hesitate too much to throw someone in the Room With a Moose if they're just being overly annoying and irritating other users on the forum. Sometimes it's just not worth waiting for them to build up 4 warnings. Same for trolls. Half the time trolls border on the line of getting a warning, that's why I decided we're going to start giving warning for trolling, period.
so wait, you are threatening to ban me for not breaking any rules? interesting.
and what annoys me, is when i get warnings for things that don't deserve warnings. Not a single one of my warnings was justified. whats with the one for the post that apparently doesn't exist? Its not like it supposed top go to a post that has been deletedc, THE URL DOES NOT CONTAIN A POST NUMBER. SO I WAS GIVEN A WARNING, THAT WAS CALLED A SPAM WARNING, BUT THERE IS NO EXPLANATION, AND NO POST TO SHOW FOR IT. This is a problem. It appears as though i received a warning for something that never happened.
I'm not breaking any rules, so any furhter attempts at banning or suspension (unless i break a rule) are abuses of power. and i thought you guys were striving to be better than scott.
You're acting like a ****ing three-year old. Look, you acted stupid, now you have to pay for it. Big deal. And I wouldn't go around calling people MT rejects, as you have been on more Survivor threads than anyone.
No I'm threatening to give you a warning because I find it really freaking annoying when people go around with the attitude that no matter what they're innocent and that's the exact thing you're doing. You've posted your bullcrap in multiple threads already and I'm tired of it. Maybe if you'd use your brain for a minute you'd realize that the thread it was in was either 1. deleted or 2. the post itself ended up being deleted. Furthermore as mods we can soft delete threads and posts where only the staff can see them. That's exactly why you don't go into the Forum Control whether it was an error in the usergroup or not. You know, you were originally banned on MTGnews, and I'm starting to see exactly why. All you're warnings are justified and were given under the staff's discretion and judgment which is overall pretty good. Your opinion is of no concern on the matter because obviously you think you're in the right for doing whatever got you your warning and you were obviously wrong, but we cannot convince you of that. This is the end of this discussion. Do not bring it up again.
-Xen.
i was never banned on 'news i got suspended once, mainly for harassing RE, who had abused his power. IF you would learn to read, you would see what i said. ive had said (i think only in a PM) that i dont aruge that it was a discrescretionary (wow i suck at spelling) dicesion, a judgment call, by you, what i said, was these are teh reasons that i felt your judgement was wrong, adn you preoceeded to treat me like ****. Ok. i was polite, i wasn't abusive, or confrontational, until you ignored and responded negatively. Ok, so get all god damned high and mighty ok. I tried, you are the one who started to get rude. You say take responsibility, well, i admit to doing the things in all of the posts i was warned for (except the one that doesn't exist) but what i said was, that the spam warning from teh picture thread was unnecesary, the spam warning for the double post was unnecesary and the flame warning for the MT reject comment was unnecesary. I objected in a civil way, and you did not respond in a civil way.
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It's not fair to just give out warnings never knowing if that person is going to come back and look at it.
Really? cause when i got my suspension (which i still believe was bogus), i had amassed 5 warnings, without a single notice. No one told me, and i rarely go back and read old posts. this really should be a required.
DotP
Plastik
Probably should be. However, if you're handing out, say, ten warnings when you get onto the forums, it often can get caught in the shuffle.
Be aware of singing as if you were half dead,
or half asleep:
but lift your voice with strength.
Be no more afraid of your voice now,
nor more ashamed of its being heard,
than when you sang the songs of Satan.
I'm sure the mods try to do their best about PMing people about warnings, but it is a very busy site, and posts are going up like crazy around here, so that may have been part of the reason.
DotP
Plastik
that would probably be more work than it would be worth.
DotP
Plastik
-Xen.
(Also known as Xenphire)
[KalmWave] [Last.FM]
Ubuntu Linux
At the moment, 5 warnings equals a trip through another dimension for a week or two...
Then, if it happens again, you'll find yourself in the alternate dimension permanently.
[KalmWave] [Last.FM]
Ubuntu Linux
8 warnings = Permanent Trip to the Room With a Moose
Both result in being thrown to the Room With a Moose. Sometimes we let one or two more warnings slide by before we suspend you but its around that area. And your warnings are cumulative, they don't reset after suspension. So if you get 4 warnings, you're suspended for a week. When you come back, if you get 4 more, you're perm-moose'd.
-Xen.
(Also known as Xenphire)
1) After being banned for two weeks, through this alternate dimsension you will be able to commune with the staff... You may ask them to let you back
2) If they agree to let you back, you may create a new user name and start posting again
3) If you are back, you're on a shorter leash than everyone else as you've been banned before
[KalmWave] [Last.FM]
Ubuntu Linux
(Also known as Xenphire)
This should be the image you post on the last warning.
"I leave you to your moosey fate."
-Xen.
(Also known as Xenphire)
Hey Xenphire to you have a couple of Shopped cards you use for warning/bannings/suspension
cuase of the moosy fate and I saw you use a spma warning card somewhere.
for he is the messenger between the spheres
and the traveler between the realms of the living and the dead.
He shall summon forth the ancient ones
and wake them from their deathly slumber
then shall the elder signs be shattered.
Trade Thread
This could have easily been handled by either the MOD who gave it editing the posts together, informing me of my mistake and having me edit them together, or informing me that i had made a mistake and that in the future to not double post. There was no reason for a warning. IT IS MY ONE AND ONLY DOUBLE POST IN THESE FORUMS. i have been good about going back and editing posts together where necesary.
Notice how the link doesn't go anywhere? Where is this alleged post? There is no number after the show post sh when the link was made, it was not made to a specific post.
Senori, who gave this warning, has told me that if given the oppurtunity again, he would merely delete the post and let it be. There was no bnotice in the open post (made my an admin midn you) that the thread was exclusicely for pictures (and that non picture posts weren't alowed).
I used a simile to compare a members behavior (not the member himself) to a ****ing 3 year old. I didn't call DotP a ****ing 3 year old, i said his behavior (as outlined in the opening post of the thread) was like that of a "****ing 3 year old." (this is the only warning I received that has any validity.
I called a member an "MT reject" because they had been rejected from misetings in a vote by the members. He had been banned (rejected) and thusly, was a reject form there. Not a flame, a mere statement of fact. When you are rejected from a certain thing, you then become a reject by virtue of definition.
Yes, thats five, and the reasons why they were bogus.
EDIT: It appears i miss-spoke, i do have 2 double posts (not an attempt to ++ or anything like that, simple mistakes) one received a warning, the other did not. but i was not informed of either of them, and its not like I'm some sort of spammer.
DotP
Plastik
(Also known as Xenphire)
so wait, you are threatening to ban me for not breaking any rules? interesting.
and what annoys me, is when i get warnings for things that don't deserve warnings. Not a single one of my warnings was justified. whats with the one for the post that apparently doesn't exist? Its not like it supposed top go to a post that has been deletedc, THE URL DOES NOT CONTAIN A POST NUMBER. SO I WAS GIVEN A WARNING, THAT WAS CALLED A SPAM WARNING, BUT THERE IS NO EXPLANATION, AND NO POST TO SHOW FOR IT. This is a problem. It appears as though i received a warning for something that never happened.
I'm not breaking any rules, so any furhter attempts at banning or suspension (unless i break a rule) are abuses of power. and i thought you guys were striving to be better than scott.
DotP
Plastik
No. No, there is not, although, seldomly, I wish there were. But "Stupid" is subjective.
Be aware of singing as if you were half dead,
or half asleep:
but lift your voice with strength.
Be no more afraid of your voice now,
nor more ashamed of its being heard,
than when you sang the songs of Satan.
No I'm threatening to give you a warning because I find it really freaking annoying when people go around with the attitude that no matter what they're innocent and that's the exact thing you're doing. You've posted your bullcrap in multiple threads already and I'm tired of it. Maybe if you'd use your brain for a minute you'd realize that the thread it was in was either 1. deleted or 2. the post itself ended up being deleted. Furthermore as mods we can soft delete threads and posts where only the staff can see them. That's exactly why you don't go into the Forum Control whether it was an error in the usergroup or not because you end up not knowing what you're talking about. If anything going into the Forum Control when you realized you obviously weren't supposed to see it is grounds for suspension/banning alone. You know, you were originally banned on MTGnews, and I'm starting to see exactly why. All you're warnings are justified and were given under the staff's discretion and judgment which is overall pretty good. Your opinion is of no concern on the matter because obviously you think you're in the right for doing whatever got you your warning and you were obviously wrong, but we cannot convince you of that. This is the end of this discussion. Do not bring it up again.
And aside, on the stupidity subject: I personally won't hesitate too much to throw someone in the Room With a Moose if they're just being overly annoying and irritating other users on the forum. Sometimes it's just not worth waiting for them to build up 4 warnings. Same for trolls. Half the time trolls border on the line of getting a warning, that's why I decided we're going to start giving warning for trolling, period.
-Xen.
(Also known as Xenphire)
You're acting like a ****ing three-year old. Look, you acted stupid, now you have to pay for it. Big deal. And I wouldn't go around calling people MT rejects, as you have been on more Survivor threads than anyone.
i was never banned on 'news i got suspended once, mainly for harassing RE, who had abused his power. IF you would learn to read, you would see what i said. ive had said (i think only in a PM) that i dont aruge that it was a discrescretionary (wow i suck at spelling) dicesion, a judgment call, by you, what i said, was these are teh reasons that i felt your judgement was wrong, adn you preoceeded to treat me like ****. Ok. i was polite, i wasn't abusive, or confrontational, until you ignored and responded negatively. Ok, so get all god damned high and mighty ok. I tried, you are the one who started to get rude. You say take responsibility, well, i admit to doing the things in all of the posts i was warned for (except the one that doesn't exist) but what i said was, that the spam warning from teh picture thread was unnecesary, the spam warning for the double post was unnecesary and the flame warning for the MT reject comment was unnecesary. I objected in a civil way, and you did not respond in a civil way.
DotP
Plastik