Normals – Diggy, Hvir Minis – SG, Lookingforreality Specialty – Xyre Noob - LJ Do not post in here unless you are asking to sign up to host a game. Unless you have run a few games on the site, it is recommended that you post your experience. Posts without experience listed can and will be ignored.
NEW: You may also post in here additions to the probation list. Nonhosts suggesting people will be listed themselves. We suggest including all probation-worthy people in a single post that also includes a status report that the game from which the reasons for listing these people is completed. (I'm saying make a single post to say "Game over and these people are lame")
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Vecna_Reborn, Fadeblue, Axelrod, Azrael, in no particular order.
Please PM any of the above if you need to check a rule, want your game idea to be reviewed, or something else that would require mod assistance.
The following may never be used in a Normal game without permission from a council member. Specialty games must be reviewed in full, so the inclusion of the following may be attempted, and is up to the reviewer whether they are allowed or not.
1. A player on the replace list with a role.
2. A player not listed in the game that has an effect on the game.
3. A role win no feasible win condition. (A neutral that cannot win with town or mafia, and has no kills, for example.)
4. A role that may VOTE after death. Please confirm any post-death abilities with a reviewer even if they are not vote-related.
5. The mod having a role.
These are generally metagame roles, which have been restricted due to unplayability, unfeasibility, or the fact that the average normal game should not require its players to expect such twists that they might from a Specialty game.
7. Azrael - Matrix Mafia
8. AbbeyGargoyle - The 1001 Nights
9. Treigit
10. Arimnaes
11. Disrupt Your Hymn and Axelrod
A single person may not be on both this and the Normal signups.
15. Chamber
16. Arimnaes
17. Zchinque
18. Kops - Sept 15 minimum
19. Stormblind
20. Alx
21. Creampuffeater
22. Dagger
23. Wuffles_II
24. Vampyr
A single player may:
1. Be in a single “Normal” game at one time.
2. Be in a single “Specialty” game at one time.
3. Be in a single “Mini” game at one time.
4. Be signed up to be a replacement for any sort of game, but not available to replace until said player is no longer in the other of that type of game.
We run 2 Normal, 2 Mini, 1 Specialty, and an occasional “New Player” game, all at once.
A player in a current game may not discuss a current game with any other player in that game. Discussion with an outsider must first have permission requested, because it invalidates their right to play in the game as soon as any meaningful information is given. Both the host and council may punish for transgressions.
To sign up to host, you must have two complete games and one in progress, minimum. There will be no exceptions.
All hosts should be prepared to host at any time when their name is in the top three of a list. When it is a host’s turn to make their game, they will be PMed. If they are not ready, or have a conflict, they may ask to be pushed back 2-4 slots. Lack of response after 72 hours will result in an automatic pushback.
To sign up to Host a special game, you must:
1. Have a game setup finished or near finished.
2. Submit the setup to a council member for review/balancing.
3. Have participated in three complete games on MTGSalvation.
Specialty Signups Rules:
1. The queue is limited to seven games.
2. A host may submit a Specialty idea at any time for review, but it will never be added to the queue until complete.
3. If more than one setup is cleared for addition, they will all be re-examined when a new slot opens up in the queue.
4. Once on the specialty list, only its own host may remove it. (Excluding inactivity/banning.)
Blacklist: Players listed here may not play in mafia unless they appeal.
Pawn, Russianhacka, Foilphob (deadposter and troll)
Probation list: Players here may be denied at the choice of a game Host. A host may recommend the removal of a player from this list if they participated well in said host’s game.
Yeah. Right. I forgot about that for a moment. I'll have it up sometime in the next 24 hours. Unless I do something stupid. Again.
EDIT: Hey I remembered. The specialty list will be up in spoiler form in a few. Please do not try to sign up to be a specialty host here, as I will ask for you to recieve a spam warning. Also, any pms asking for a specialty slot WITHOUT a full game list will be ignored, deleted, probably not read reciept'd, and definately not responded to.
EDIT: If you are not on the specialty list and you submitted one, please PM me.
Could I suggest the following setup for Newbie games, to avoid the setup-breaking and make games more rich : Mafia :
1 mafia role-blocker
2 vanilla mafia
Town :
1 cop
1 doc
1 vigilante
5 vanilla town
The role-blocker should prevent day 1 cop claims.
My main concern with this set-up is the vig. While having it in there could teach the newbs to be more careful with the role in future games, having it in a game with only 11 players means it will be that much more of a liability to the town. They could hit their lynch 2 days in a row, but if the vig fired both nights, still be down to 4 to 1. If the vig decides to shoot that night, their in a lynch or lose situation after getting 2 straight hits. And since this game is meant to teach newbs, I don't like including a role that will likely knock off several players simply because of another players arrogance.
Assuming I am running the next game, I think I'll use a variation of this though, if not an exact copy. I especially like the roleblocker on the mafia's side.
Yeah, I like the idea of a one-shot vig. It is likely to have about the impact on a game that you want, it gives a clear idea of what the vig does, it teaches people not to waste their shot. The only problem is that it really isn't a very standard role, since in larger games it would be so underpowered, but that isn't a huge problem. I support that idea.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
No, I disagree. 1-shot mislynch is a good thing. If the town knows they have a lot of room for error, they're less likely to take the game seriously. It's when they know that they're right down to the wire that newbie games get interesting. The whole reason for a 1-shot vig is that a regular vig would lose the game for the town regularly. A 1-shot gives the town the ability to consider how and when it should be used, without it having to be an auto-loss if they turn out not to be using the role well.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
If Az is ahead of me in the specialty queue, I'd be willing to run the next Newb game to get hosting practice.
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I think it was in the wrong thread before...but yeah if we're going to continue new player gmaes, I'd like to host one, or even a mini. I have a setup figured out already so if I can, I'm ready. (I've played in Blind 2, Replaced in Random 1, Random 2, HS, and am currenty in WDM2)
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Noob games should always have one of the standard setups. Flavor and names of roles and whatever are fine, but I thought the purpose was to give them a normal setup. Also, please do not attempt to contact us about hosting the noob games, we will contact you. You can sign up for the mini when it comes up, after the priority period has ended.
edit: and that will be up when i figure out the changes to the editting page
And the mini list is up. People have 3 days from this point to convert from normal to it and still have priority.
In other news, take discussion elsewhere. I was intending on keeping this spam free. I'll move you to the mini list puzzle. Which makes you first... Dont start yet.
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Puzzle can host his now. The mini hosting list is now open to everyone.
I didnt want to PM Puzzle due to issues with pms I have been having just now, and I didnt edit it in because the last post would still register as old/read for everyone.
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Hey, I'm new to MTGS and a friend of Turbo164. I'm interested in playing in a noob game, but would hate to miss one because I didn't know what to do.
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What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
Sweet, thanks a bunch. Oh, and I loved the finale of the HS mafia. That was pretty funny stuff.
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Uh, cool I guess. Just lurk around and wait for the next one (and read up/follow the curent games if you have nothing better to do) or have Turbo do it for you.
Again, dont ask to mod the noob game. We will contact you
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What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
Quite a few have volunteered. You will probably get it, honestly, but I would rather not have a ton of people jumping to host a basic game. No, it isnt a rule, see the previous statement.
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You need a complete setup submitted first. It has to be accepted as well.
Not to be a jerk, but to cut off any debate whether your post was before I editted in the rules (your post reminded me ;)), you were first, but the rules had been in effect according to the Council thread for several days. My fault for not updating here.
I'll normal list you assuming you arent already, and can move you when you have a setup. edit: yeah, you are number 34 already
LJustice, apologies if this is incorrect, but I believe you are only supposed to be on the specialty list. You were number 37, in case you are actually supposed to be normal listed (which you aren't.)
In addition, reed is being unlisted because he left a while ago, and I must have missed his entry. He was number 22.
EDIT: In addition, stevie is being unlisted because he is banned. If he returns, he may reenter the list in one of the top 5 positions. EDIT: at any time.
If memory serves, I was going to host the next newb?
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It seems sort of silly to ridicule a company for marketing efforts. Of course they are going to hype upcoming products, every company on the face of the planet does it, and it works, thats why they do it. There isn't really any sense complaining about it. If you don't like the marketing, ignore it.
There's a newb signup thread that just went up. Go respond to that one.
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Quick update:
The lists are current as of time of posting, corrections will no longer be accepted for anything since the last update post.
Furthermore, I will be out of town until the 28th, beginning 15 hours from now. I may or may not have internet access during that time (I will probably get online once every 2-3 days for maybe 30 minutes) so expect responses and whatnot to be slower than usual.
If any games finish before I return, the next host is NOT permitted to begin signups or anything. If they do, they will be removed from the list. I do not want someone assuming something, and then being wrong about it, because correcting things takes a lot of unnecessary effort.
Happy holidays.
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Wow, I would have thought there would have been some sort of activity since I went AWOL.
Anyway, I am back, let the madness resume.
EDIT: I am also going to go ahead and assume that everything is current to this point, and no more corrections can be made.
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Minis – SG, Lookingforreality
Specialty – Xyre
Noob - LJ
Do not post in here unless you are asking to sign up to host a game. Unless you have run a few games on the site, it is recommended that you post your experience. Posts without experience listed can and will be ignored.
NEW: You may also post in here additions to the probation list. Nonhosts suggesting people will be listed themselves. We suggest including all probation-worthy people in a single post that also includes a status report that the game from which the reasons for listing these people is completed. (I'm saying make a single post to say "Game over and these people are lame")
Please PM any of the above if you need to check a rule, want your game idea to be reviewed, or something else that would require mod assistance.
The following may never be used in a Normal game without permission from a council member. Specialty games must be reviewed in full, so the inclusion of the following may be attempted, and is up to the reviewer whether they are allowed or not.
1. A player on the replace list with a role.
2. A player not listed in the game that has an effect on the game.
3. A role win no feasible win condition. (A neutral that cannot win with town or mafia, and has no kills, for example.)
4. A role that may VOTE after death. Please confirm any post-death abilities with a reviewer even if they are not vote-related.
5. The mod having a role.
These are generally metagame roles, which have been restricted due to unplayability, unfeasibility, or the fact that the average normal game should not require its players to expect such twists that they might from a Specialty game.
R. Fadeblue
12. Jobie
14. Xyre
15. Silicon
16. Absolutionis
Re-listed: Annorax
17. Loran
18. Carrion Pigeons
19. Bluesoul
20. MMoD
21. RafaelK
22. Hunted Charlie
23. Ged
24. Treigit
25. Axelrod
26. Matjoeman
27. Washu
28. Cubus
29. wrath of dog
30. Silent Prophet
31. AbbeyGargoyle
7. Azrael - Matrix Mafia
8. AbbeyGargoyle - The 1001 Nights
9. Treigit
10. Arimnaes
11. Disrupt Your Hymn and Axelrod
15. Chamber
16. Arimnaes
17. Zchinque
18. Kops - Sept 15 minimum
19. Stormblind
20. Alx
21. Creampuffeater
22. Dagger
23. Wuffles_II
24. Vampyr
A single player may:
1. Be in a single “Normal” game at one time.
2. Be in a single “Specialty” game at one time.
3. Be in a single “Mini” game at one time.
4. Be signed up to be a replacement for any sort of game, but not available to replace until said player is no longer in the other of that type of game.
We run 2 Normal, 2 Mini, 1 Specialty, and an occasional “New Player” game, all at once.
To sign up to host, you must have two complete games and one in progress, minimum. There will be no exceptions.
All hosts should be prepared to host at any time when their name is in the top three of a list. When it is a host’s turn to make their game, they will be PMed. If they are not ready, or have a conflict, they may ask to be pushed back 2-4 slots. Lack of response after 72 hours will result in an automatic pushback.
1. Have a game setup finished or near finished.
2. Submit the setup to a council member for review/balancing.
3. Have participated in three complete games on MTGSalvation.
Specialty Signups Rules:
1. The queue is limited to seven games.
2. A host may submit a Specialty idea at any time for review, but it will never be added to the queue until complete.
3. If more than one setup is cleared for addition, they will all be re-examined when a new slot opens up in the queue.
4. Once on the specialty list, only its own host may remove it. (Excluding inactivity/banning.)
Blacklist: Players listed here may not play in mafia unless they appeal.
Pawn, Russianhacka, Foilphob (deadposter and troll)
Probation list: Players here may be denied at the choice of a game Host. A host may recommend the removal of a player from this list if they participated well in said host’s game.
Dakkon33327
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EDIT: Hey I remembered. The specialty list will be up in spoiler form in a few. Please do not try to sign up to be a specialty host here, as I will ask for you to recieve a spam warning. Also, any pms asking for a specialty slot WITHOUT a full game list will be ignored, deleted, probably not read reciept'd, and definately not responded to.
EDIT: If you are not on the specialty list and you submitted one, please PM me.
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[The Family]
Assuming I am running the next game, I think I'll use a variation of this though, if not an exact copy. I especially like the roleblocker on the mafia's side.
[The Family]
Also, LJ is signed up for hosting.
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Told ya!
Mafia MVP BM Mafia
Mafia MVP Matrix Mafia
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Mafia MVP BM Mafia
Mafia MVP Matrix Mafia
Also, thanks BMD, I'll change that
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-[thread=14456]The [Untitled] Avatar and Sig shop![/thread] Avatar from:[thread=25376] [Epic Graphics][/thread]
Awards:
Elegant Mafia: The Joker, Mafia MVP
edit: and that will be up when i figure out the changes to the editting page
And the mini list is up. People have 3 days from this point to convert from normal to it and still have priority.
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I'd like to change mine to a mini, but like Puzzle, I probably won't be able to go first. Not until Newb 4 is over.
[The Family]
Dear God, help us all if Dollar was a newbie game. I read through that with all it's win-conditions and wow, nice work.
I can't wait to play in French Mafia! (crosses fingers)
V/LA: 3/21-3/24 & 3/27-3/29
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I didnt want to PM Puzzle due to issues with pms I have been having just now, and I didnt edit it in because the last post would still register as old/read for everyone.
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[The Family]
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Never modded before, so any volunteers to review the set-up?
-[thread=14456]The [Untitled] Avatar and Sig shop![/thread] Avatar from:[thread=25376] [Epic Graphics][/thread]
Awards:
Elegant Mafia: The Joker, Mafia MVP
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SR
Speaking of which, has anyone stepped up to mod it? If not, I'll do it.
If I do it, I'll reserve a slot for you, M_S.
Mafia MVP BM Mafia
Mafia MVP Matrix Mafia
Again, dont ask to mod the noob game. We will contact you
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Oh, is that a rule now? Well, anytime. I just volunteered because I didn't see anyone else that wanted to.
Mafia MVP BM Mafia
Mafia MVP Matrix Mafia
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Not to be a jerk, but to cut off any debate whether your post was before I editted in the rules (your post reminded me ;)), you were first, but the rules had been in effect according to the Council thread for several days. My fault for not updating here.
I'll normal list you assuming you arent already, and can move you when you have a setup. edit: yeah, you are number 34 already
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In addition, reed is being unlisted because he left a while ago, and I must have missed his entry. He was number 22.
EDIT: In addition, stevie is being unlisted because he is banned. If he returns, he may reenter the list in one of the top 5 positions. EDIT: at any time.
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Oh noez! More cracked-out roles!
* Turbo164 runs and hides behind his computer, making sure his window is tightly locked this time.
EDIT: In other news, what a crappy 666th post.
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No problemo, el bellboy.
and thanks.
[The Family]
I would obviously join a newb mafia game having only a general idea of how to play.
The all lists are updated to the best of my knowledge, if you have a correction, submit it to me.
Alpha was moved down 3 slots by request.
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The lists are current as of time of posting, corrections will no longer be accepted for anything since the last update post.
Furthermore, I will be out of town until the 28th, beginning 15 hours from now. I may or may not have internet access during that time (I will probably get online once every 2-3 days for maybe 30 minutes) so expect responses and whatnot to be slower than usual.
If any games finish before I return, the next host is NOT permitted to begin signups or anything. If they do, they will be removed from the list. I do not want someone assuming something, and then being wrong about it, because correcting things takes a lot of unnecessary effort.
Happy holidays.
Celtic word for a computer spelling mistake.
SR
Anyway, I am back, let the madness resume.
EDIT: I am also going to go ahead and assume that everything is current to this point, and no more corrections can be made.
Celtic word for a computer spelling mistake.
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