Maybe you forgot the point, that they're talking about silver knight ??!
Ah, I'd thought that Silver Knight was a separate discussion. I definitely don't see Silver Knight/Blood Knight in these decks, so that's the lens through which I'm viewing the possible inclusion/exclusion of Armored Ascension.
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a silver knight with a Loxodon Warhammer would pretty much dominate the dragon deck :/. As for armored ascension i highly doubt it especially if the deck is green/white there would be far better enchanments to put in such as a duel enchantments from shadowmoor
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Ah, I'd thought that Silver Knight was a separate discussion. I definitely don't see Silver Knight/Blood Knight in these decks, so that's the lens through which I'm viewing the possible inclusion/exclusion of Armored Ascension.
Very simple it cant be killed and not only that it can get through any defenses the red dragon player makes thus a few simple growth cards and it will hit for 10 damage unstoppable.
I don't think it's near as unstoppable as some are making out. You would have to give it flying for it to do anything in the first place, then to make it good you have to pump it as well, and still he can only block one thing. Red is the color of direct damage and there are dragons that can burn without even needing to attack at all (ie Kilnmouth Dragon).
And if it's still really a big deal, they just have to give the dragon deck some colorless or other colored (ie black) creatures and/or removal. Steel Hellkite or Fodder Launch both answer Silver Knight pretty easily.
While it hasn't been cracked for cards, I noticed that there is
Silver Knight
Knight Exemplar
Loxodon Warhammer (new art)
Seething Song (new art)
random red dragons that I don't care about
Edit: Knight of the White Orchid is in it too
You're correct, of course. It's an alt-art Silver Knight. Interesting that they put the FNM art on the Oblivion Ring.
The Knight deck is solid WG, Juniper order Ranger, Kinsbaile, Exemplar, Steward of Valeron. It's pretty decent.....
.....and has to be because the Dragon side is...... probably not what will sell this product.
As someone who has FTV: Dragons, Planechase and Archenemy, I'm knee-deep in the same cards again.
I assume it's safe to say that there will be a number of Dragonspeaker Shammans, with a possibility for Furnace of Rath and Keldon Champion. The most likely dragons to appear from the above list would seem to be Two-Headed Dragon (iconic, and all-around cool), Imperial Hellkite for tutoring shennanigans, Shivan Dragon for nostalgic pruposes, and Klinmouth dragon.
Brimstone Dragon would've been a nice change of pace; It has yet to be reprinted.
Same with Dragon Tyrant...which I think would have been a better Mythic for this deck with some of the ramp. Ah well. I'll just pick up the Silver Knights and be on my way.
Kargan Dragonlord and Student of Warfare would rock in this set. They alone would nearly justify the MSRP, which makes me doubt they'll be included... but it would be a good way for WOTC to promote the level-up mechanic. For those intending to actually play this DD as it is intended, it would be fun to add those cards (assuming they're not included), along with your choice of Elspeth and Sarkhan PWs.
Panda, what reserved cards would you put in this product?
Well it's not spacific cards... more than we were more than likely to see some quirky reprints and old skool cards in the new skool frame. Like we won't see anything as dramatic as Swords to Plowshare or Mishra's Factory ever again.
I'm a fan of seeing new art and new boarders on old cards. Those days are done, so I've lost a huge chunk of interest in these sets.
Mythic rares are very very scarcely printed outside of booster packs.
- Intro Packs don't include any.
- Although the event decks are made as competitive decks they are completly mythic free. Which in the long run forces them into budget deck types like White Weenies.
Normal Duel Decks include 2 Mythic rares. 'For a change' this includes one mythic + a coppery rare.
So I guess there is no chance for Kargan Dragonlord
Too bad because imho it would be a very nice way to showcase this tiny '2 card cycle'.
All but this one are absolutely understandable and fair...
I'm not saying you lie, but a pro-red Knight seems very strange, unless the dragon deck is not monocolored.
1. I would be surprised if the Dragon deck was mono-red if, for no other reason, that it would wind up being much too playable and consistent for the duel deck series.
2. Even if the Dragon deck were mono-red, Silver Knight would be a perfectly acceptable and predictable inclusion in the Knight deck.
Monday. I bet they'll do it Monday. Ken will write a little article about it, and the Arcana will have some cute fact, possibly involving some new art. The cards of the day for the week will probably be thematic as well.
We seem to be getting the box set spoilers very late, which doesn't surprise me, since there's no new stuff in them. I wonder if that'll change in July, since we'll be staring down the barrel of a box set with new cards?
Don't mind me, I'm lost in musings by now.
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Ah, I'd thought that Silver Knight was a separate discussion. I definitely don't see Silver Knight/Blood Knight in these decks, so that's the lens through which I'm viewing the possible inclusion/exclusion of Armored Ascension.
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I agree, armored ascension could and should be in there!
What do you guy's think about card's like: Earthquake, Volcanic Fallout & Co. ? To hard vs Knight's because they're all gonna die? ^^
I don't think it's near as unstoppable as some are making out. You would have to give it flying for it to do anything in the first place, then to make it good you have to pump it as well, and still he can only block one thing. Red is the color of direct damage and there are dragons that can burn without even needing to attack at all (ie Kilnmouth Dragon).
And if it's still really a big deal, they just have to give the dragon deck some colorless or other colored (ie black) creatures and/or removal. Steel Hellkite or Fodder Launch both answer Silver Knight pretty easily.
You're correct, of course. It's an alt-art Silver Knight. Interesting that they put the FNM art on the Oblivion Ring.
The Knight deck is solid WG, Juniper order Ranger, Kinsbaile, Exemplar, Steward of Valeron. It's pretty decent.....
.....and has to be because the Dragon side is...... probably not what will sell this product.
As someone who has FTV: Dragons, Planechase and Archenemy, I'm knee-deep in the same cards again.
It is a dragon in the pic for O-Ring after all, so I guess that makes sense... I guess we're seeing the reserved list rear it's ugly head...
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Ah well. Can you tell us who the alt art is by?
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Panda, what reserved cards would you put in this product?
I assume it's safe to say that there will be a number of Dragonspeaker Shammans, with a possibility for Furnace of Rath and Keldon Champion. The most likely dragons to appear from the above list would seem to be Two-Headed Dragon (iconic, and all-around cool), Imperial Hellkite for tutoring shennanigans, Shivan Dragon for nostalgic pruposes, and Klinmouth dragon.
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Same with Dragon Tyrant...which I think would have been a better Mythic for this deck with some of the ramp. Ah well. I'll just pick up the Silver Knights and be on my way.
G Pumped Elvish Warriors G
GW Infectious Slivers WG
WU Milling Allies UW
Legacy:
UB Hex-Depths BU (combo-control)
G NO/Aggro Elves G
Commander:
WUBRG Sliver Army GRBUW (multiplayer)
WUG Rafiq the Exalted GUW (1-on-1 voltron)
GU Edric's Circus UG (multiplayer tokens)
B Relentless Rats B (multiplayer combo)
UB Sygg, the Punisher (in progress)BU
UBR Nicol Bolas, Elder Dragon Highlander RBU (in progress)
Well it's not spacific cards... more than we were more than likely to see some quirky reprints and old skool cards in the new skool frame. Like we won't see anything as dramatic as Swords to Plowshare or Mishra's Factory ever again.
I'm a fan of seeing new art and new boarders on old cards. Those days are done, so I've lost a huge chunk of interest in these sets.
Ah, good point. I forgot that Kargan was mythic.
G Pumped Elvish Warriors G
GW Infectious Slivers WG
WU Milling Allies UW
Legacy:
UB Hex-Depths BU (combo-control)
G NO/Aggro Elves G
Commander:
WUBRG Sliver Army GRBUW (multiplayer)
WUG Rafiq the Exalted GUW (1-on-1 voltron)
GU Edric's Circus UG (multiplayer tokens)
B Relentless Rats B (multiplayer combo)
UB Sygg, the Punisher (in progress)BU
UBR Nicol Bolas, Elder Dragon Highlander RBU (in progress)
1. I would be surprised if the Dragon deck was mono-red if, for no other reason, that it would wind up being much too playable and consistent for the duel deck series.
2. Even if the Dragon deck were mono-red, Silver Knight would be a perfectly acceptable and predictable inclusion in the Knight deck.
3. WotC....can ya spoil this thing already???
Both seem obvious to me... but you never know.
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Monday. I bet they'll do it Monday. Ken will write a little article about it, and the Arcana will have some cute fact, possibly involving some new art. The cards of the day for the week will probably be thematic as well.
We seem to be getting the box set spoilers very late, which doesn't surprise me, since there's no new stuff in them. I wonder if that'll change in July, since we'll be staring down the barrel of a box set with new cards?
Don't mind me, I'm lost in musings by now.
Fingers crossed i hope dragons wont be mono red especially with if mister silver knight is in the deck.
i am hoping for Black Red dragons with the Artifact that makes blue dragon tokens :/
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Where was this confirmed?
Modern:
Affinity
EDH:
Rhys (Tokens)
Karrthus (Dragons)
Bruna (Auras OP)
geez dude ur a bit slow :/ look at the first page
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WBSorin vs TibaltBR, WRHeros vs Monsters RG
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It's on the box, actually. Look at the first post.
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