I actually had Animate Dead and Necromancy in the deck before, but I ended up preferring the mass recursion of Marshal's Anthem - the one-creature limitation on the enchantments ended up not being great.
Eh....I don't really have problems with pumping Doran. Eland Umbra seems a lot sketchier than Shield of the Oversoul simply because Doran doesn't naturally have evasion, and a 9/9 beater can just get chumped all day .
My Doran deck is a bit different from yours, but I can offer some suggestions based on your list:
- I second whoever said Saffi Eriksdotter, and would add Dauntless Escort. My build is very creature heavy, and having backup to protect from targeted removal or board wipes has helped me immensely. WBG offers great wrath options, and sacking Dauntless Escort before wrathing is generally a blowout.
- Slagwurm Armor, seriously. I know it sounds ridiculous, but Doran decks generally rely on brainless beatdown and nothing says brainless beatdown like a psuedo-11/11 tree wearing slagwurm skin! It's also hilarious on a Tangle Angler, but that's another story.
- I also play Gaea's Blessing to keep myself from getting milled out. The legendary Eldrazi perform this function as well. It might not be necessary depending on who you play against, but when I was building my deck my friend was mainly playing Geth, Lord of the Vault as his general. With the Mimeoplasm running around these days, mill protection probably gets even better.
Thanks for the advice. Interestingly enough, a ton of the cards you suggested have already been in and out of my build. Treefolk Harbinger was great to yank Doran out, but I don't really run enough Treefolk to make him worthwhile, so I replaced him with Vampiric Tutor to get basically the same result. Saffi and Dauntless were great general protection, but a lot of my creatures actually like going to the graveyard (Genesis recursion, Persist, sac to Greater Good, etc) so I don't think they're that necessary. Slagwurm Armor made Doran beat for a ton, but it didn't do anything else. Sisay seems good, but not in my build, given that I don't run as many dudes.
I'm definitely going to try Elesh Norn and probably Ulamog or something. I've been thinking about Elesh Norn for a while and mill protection is always good. I'll also try Austere Command and Hallowed Burial. I think one of them will end up replacing Wrath of God.
Ok, I get pretty much everything else but this. Why are you playing Amulet of Vigor?
Helps with all the CIPT lands I run - Vivid lands, shocks, various other lands like Rupture Spire/Sunpetal Grove/Stirring Wildwood/Flagstones of Trokair, etc. It's really nice to have that kind of tempo boost.
Bob is terrible with my curve, he'd kill me in no time. Stoneforge is in the list. I tried Ajani and hated him. I've been trying to work in Elspeth for a while though, and I'll test both Mindcensor and Jitte. I don't like Vindicate simply because it is a 1-for-1, and that's it.
I found Top in your list, so it is not with French ban list? I further advise you Serra Ascendant, Sol Ring.
I guess it's not, haha. I refuse to play Serra Ascendant though; I don't want to be "that guy." I probably should work in a Ring.
And, I always think Doran is an agrro deck, but I found many 4-8 cost biggies in your list, pls let me know if this list is mid-range.
Expedition gets nonbasics. Kodama's Reach is ramp as well as mana fixing, but I definitely have been trying to work in Weathered Wayfarer too. Knight seems good.
If you think Survival is expensive for you, try Birthing Pod, you will found it is amazing in EDH format!
Survival isn't too expensive. I have one in the list. I tried Pod/Hibernation's End and didn't like either. Reveillark was good....ish, because I realized how few 2-power dudes I have. I had the targeted discard pieces, but as with Vindicates, I didn't like the 1-for-1. I could see myself working them back in. I think I have enough ETB artifact/enchantment hate, but Aura of Silence could be good. I don't like Mentor or Armageddon in this list, and Avacyn's Pilgrim seems pretty eh, but Arbor Elf seems great. Thanks for the comments.
-1 Amulet of Vigor
-1 Momentous Fall
-1 Sunpetal Grove
-1 Rupture Spire
+1 Horizon Canopy
+1 Crucible of Worlds
+1 Knight of the Reliquary
+1 Bojuka Bog
Momentous Fall is good, but too cute to be consistently profitable.
Everything combos with Tombstone Stairwell.
Eh....I don't really have problems with pumping Doran. Eland Umbra seems a lot sketchier than Shield of the Oversoul simply because Doran doesn't naturally have evasion, and a 9/9 beater can just get chumped all day .
Lands WUBG
EDH:
Doran WBG
- I second whoever said Saffi Eriksdotter, and would add Dauntless Escort. My build is very creature heavy, and having backup to protect from targeted removal or board wipes has helped me immensely. WBG offers great wrath options, and sacking Dauntless Escort before wrathing is generally a blowout.
- Slagwurm Armor, seriously. I know it sounds ridiculous, but Doran decks generally rely on brainless beatdown and nothing says brainless beatdown like a psuedo-11/11 tree wearing slagwurm skin! It's also hilarious on a Tangle Angler, but that's another story.
- Austere Command and Hallowed Burial are good in Doran as well. Adding Treefolk Harbinger in addition to your other tutors make Doran one of the easiest generals to yank out of your deck after its get buried. I play Captain Sisay in my deck too, but I also play a lot of legends (Omnath, Locus of Mana, Kamahl, Fist of Krosa, Gaddock Teeg, Saffi Eriksdotter, Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, and Azusa, Lost But Seeking to name a few), so it probably makes a bit more sense for me than it would for you.
- I also play Gaea's Blessing to keep myself from getting milled out. The legendary Eldrazi perform this function as well. It might not be necessary depending on who you play against, but when I was building my deck my friend was mainly playing Geth, Lord of the Vault as his general. With the Mimeoplasm running around these days, mill protection probably gets even better.
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I'm definitely going to try Elesh Norn and probably Ulamog or something. I've been thinking about Elesh Norn for a while and mill protection is always good. I'll also try Austere Command and Hallowed Burial. I think one of them will end up replacing Wrath of God.
Lands WUBG
EDH:
Doran WBG
1 Doran, the Siege Tower
Creatures: 20
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Knight of the Reliquary
1 Stonehewer Giant
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Aven Mindcensor
1 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
1 Oracle of Mul Daya
1 Woodfall Primus
1 Primeval Titan
1 Eternal Witness
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Acidic Slime
1 Angel of Despair
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Sun Titan
1 Terastodon
1 Griselbrand
Artifacts: 9
1 Coalition Relic
1 Expedition Map
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Sol Ring
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sensei's Divining Top
Sorceries: 17
1 Ashes to Ashes
1 Reanimate
1 Kodama's Reach
1 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Exsanguinate
1 Profane Command
1 Life from the Loam
1 Kodama's Reach
1 Tooth and Nail
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Cultivate
1 Damnation
1 Tooth and Nail
1 Harmonize
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Hallowed Burial
1 Austere Command
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Instants: 9
1 Path to Exile
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Beast Within
1 Doom Blade
1 Putrefy
1 Mortify
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Krosan Grip
1 Vampiric Tutor
Enchantments: 7
1 Aura Shards
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Mana Reflection
1 Sylvan Library
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Enslave
Lands: 37
1 Arid Mesa
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Vault of the Archangel
1 Volrath's Stronghold
1 Murmuring Bosk
1 Command Tower
1 Fetid Heath
1 Wooded Bastion
1 Bayou
1 Horizon Canopy
1 Scrubland
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Twilight Mire
1 City of Brass
1 Reflecting Pool
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Maze of Ith
1 Strip Mine
1 Stirring Wildwood
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Godless Shrine
1 Marsh Flats
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Windswept Heath
1 Temple of the False God
1 High Market
1 Cabal Coffers
1 Savannah
1 Temple Garden
1 Flagstones of Trokair
2 Swamp
2 Forest
2 Plains
Lands WUBG
EDH:
Doran WBG
Lands WUBG
EDH:
Doran WBG
Ok, I get pretty much everything else but this. Why are you playing Amulet of Vigor?
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Helps with all the CIPT lands I run - Vivid lands, shocks, various other lands like Rupture Spire/Sunpetal Grove/Stirring Wildwood/Flagstones of Trokair, etc. It's really nice to have that kind of tempo boost.
Lands WUBG
EDH:
Doran WBG
-1 Prismatic Omen
-1 Silklash Spider
-1 Shield of the Oversoul
+1 Hibernation's End
+1 Sun Titan
+1 Hymn to Tourach
Lands WUBG
EDH:
Doran WBG
-1 Bloodghast
-1 Skullclamp
-1 Greater Auramancy
-1 Hibernation's End
-1 Unearth
+1 Kodama's reach
+1 Oblivion Ring
+1 Reanimate
+1 Night's Whisper
+1 Dismember
Lands WUBG
EDH:
Doran WBG
I found Top in your list, so it is not with French ban list? I further advise you Serra Ascendant, Sol Ring.
And, I always think Doran is an agrro deck, but I found many 4-8 cost biggies in your list, pls let me know if this list is mid-range.
If land is a problem for you, why not Weathered Wayfarer over Expedition Map? Nature's Lore, Farseek over Kodama's reach. And add
Knight of the Reliquary, Knight of the White Orchid, Tithe. All these cards could get you dualland/shockland instead of basic. Should be budget enough.
Thoughtseize, Duress, Inquisition of Kozilek should be considered over some two mana discard.
Avacyn's Pilgrim, is your friend after IND's in.
Arbor Elf reads as 'untap target dualland.'
Seal of Cleansing, Aura of Silence as enchantments/Artifacts hates.
Reveillark should be rated over than any 'animated-grave' in this deck
Mentor of the Meek, Armageddon need some test.
If you think Survival is expensive for you, try Birthing Pod, you will found it is amazing in EDH format!
Bob is terrible with my curve, he'd kill me in no time. Stoneforge is in the list. I tried Ajani and hated him. I've been trying to work in Elspeth for a while though, and I'll test both Mindcensor and Jitte. I don't like Vindicate simply because it is a 1-for-1, and that's it.
I guess it's not, haha. I refuse to play Serra Ascendant though; I don't want to be "that guy." I probably should work in a Ring.
Expedition gets nonbasics. Kodama's Reach is ramp as well as mana fixing, but I definitely have been trying to work in Weathered Wayfarer too. Knight seems good.
Survival isn't too expensive. I have one in the list. I tried Pod/Hibernation's End and didn't like either. Reveillark was good....ish, because I realized how few 2-power dudes I have. I had the targeted discard pieces, but as with Vindicates, I didn't like the 1-for-1. I could see myself working them back in. I think I have enough ETB artifact/enchantment hate, but Aura of Silence could be good. I don't like Mentor or Armageddon in this list, and Avacyn's Pilgrim seems pretty eh, but Arbor Elf seems great. Thanks for the comments.
Lands WUBG
EDH:
Doran WBG
-1 Library of Leng
-1 Deathbringer Liege
-1 Masked Admirers
+1 Arbor Elf
+1 Aven Mindcensor
+1 Sol Ring
+1 Mirari's Wake
Lands WUBG
EDH:
Doran WBG
-1 Momentous Fall
-1 Sunpetal Grove
-1 Rupture Spire
+1 Horizon Canopy
+1 Crucible of Worlds
+1 Knight of the Reliquary
+1 Bojuka Bog
Momentous Fall is good, but too cute to be consistently profitable.
Lands WUBG
EDH:
Doran WBG