The whole Meddling thing, which seemed possibly scummy. Also at the time I thought there was also a chance that you were a Cop based on calling yourself Security Officer, thus making it possibly turn out positively. But I'm thinking that this is all just your playstyle.
What do you advocate if someone fires a day kill at you?
No retaliation at all?
A facepalm, because fake daykilling is silly, imo.
No.
I'm claiming Red_Shirt.
lol.
It's general not good to have a Cop outed RVS day one.
I agree, but I felt okay saying it because I no longer believed you were; if I see evidence for a town role I'll keep my mouth shut so that the scum doesn't know immediately.
No one's cleared town, but that sudden leap to put suspicion on Tezz was a little TOO sudden.
FoS Archonoid
you know seppel usually do bad attacks like that to see if someone will bait along? looks like you are todays victimn...
anyway, i hate rvs, lets some something to get the ball rolling. what about a soft mass claim?
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
what, so your previous attack on archonoid was just a joke? its that so?
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
you know seppel usually do bad attacks like that to see if someone will bait along? looks like you are todays victimn...
Bait or not, I do kind of think it was bad response on Archanoid's part. But I didn't vote for him because it wasn't quite enough.
anyway, i hate rvs, lets some something to get the ball rolling. what about a soft mass claim?
I've read bits of two games you're in and you did this BOTH TIMES. I vote no soft mass claim, because from what I've learned through reading other threads, it benefits scum more.
Wheat Grinder: Are you just following along with Chibi?
To some extent. I felt RVS was on the way out anyway.
Why just a F.O.S. on FoS Archonoid?
Because there wasn't enough evidence to vote for him and this was where it felt RVS was beginning to end.
Do you agree with what Seppel said?
Yes. I felt that Archonoid's thought that tezz's move was 'defensive' didn't make sense: After all, you said he should move his vote around, he did randomly, and said so when Seppel asked why. Is it enough to vote for him? Nah. Is it enough to make me watch him a little more? Yes.
I've read bits of two games you're in and you did this BOTH TIMES. I vote no soft mass claim, because from what I've learned through reading other threads, it benefits scum more.
Just curious, how does a soft claim of any kind help scum?
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I've read bits of two games you're in and you did this BOTH TIMES. I vote no soft mass claim, because from what I've learned through reading other threads, it benefits scum more.
i like this guy, he cares enough to read and learn.
yes my friend, i havent done it on just two games, i do it all the time :D.
good job, read all my games to learn how to play like a pro, you are now my apprentice young padawan.
Why are you asking others opinions on a soft claim instead of commenting on Tezz/Arch?
huh but i thought i have commented? let me rectify this:
its a null tell, we cant extract anything from it. seppel was just joking to gauge reactions or is bad (hint: is probably the latter).
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
I'm amused that [Shalako], of all people, are talking about terrible reasoning. "Hey, PF's RVS daykill must be serious, therefore I should shoot him to prove that I have a daykill!"
I'm amused that [Shalako], of all people, are talking about terrible reasoning. "Hey, PF's RVS daykill must be serious, therefore I should shoot him to prove that I have a daykill!"
Why the pro soft claim? A claim of any kind does not benefit the town in any way. If you think you can break this with flavor, that is a very wrong way to go, this setup was reviewed by Cyan after all.
DV is here too!?! It's like a Seppel evolutionary chart!
Totally barn this statement.
As for the early banter between tezz and Archonoid, I have to partly side with the crazy Sep here. That attack was pretty weak, and was really uncalled for. I dunno if it is worth a lynch here right now just for that though, as town would be as likely to do that too.
Define "soft" in this context? I've seen people mean a lot of different things by "soft claim".
We would claim.
1. Amount of Phalanges
Or/And(Depends on how narrow we want to be.I suggest just doing one to avoid outing roles.)
2. Humanoid or not.
Or/And
3. One of the episodes your person was in.
Or/And
Hair Color.
Or/And
Total # of Episodes your person is in.
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I'm amused that [Shalako], of all people, are talking about terrible reasoning. "Hey, PF's RVS daykill must be serious, therefore I should shoot him to prove that I have a daykill!"
I'm amused that [Shalako], of all people, are talking about terrible reasoning. "Hey, PF's RVS daykill must be serious, therefore I should shoot him to prove that I have a daykill!"
I believe DRey was saying that he thinks you made an attack on Archonoid to see who jumped on so that you could turn on them as scum.
While it's true that I tend to do that, this is a legit attack on Archonoid. Do you not think his post to Tezzeret reeked of pushing suspicion where there was none?
What part of Miller don't you understand? The Mill or the er.
I was under the impression not all Millers are the same; that some have a posting restriction while others have a voting restriction...If there's a clear cut definition, by all means let me know; I'm new to this all and don't know all the terms yet.
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No.
Wait I know this.
One of the captain passed his Star Trek test by shooting the generator.
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The whole Meddling thing, which seemed possibly scummy. Also at the time I thought there was also a chance that you were a Cop based on calling yourself Security Officer, thus making it possibly turn out positively. But I'm thinking that this is all just your playstyle.
Ah, I get it now. I might read that, we'll see.
I haven't even played that much; this IS my first game. All I know I learned from reading bits of other games.
What do you advocate if someone fires a day kill at you?
No retaliation at all?
No.
I'm claiming Red_Shirt.
It's general not good to have a Cop outed RVS day one.
Gimmick?
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I like you.
I fully advocate Archonoid's lynch.
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TIMELINE
I asked for an explanation of Tezzeret's vote.
Tezzeret responds.
Archonoid says: "Quick to explain yourself. Defensive?"
WHAT
He's creating suspicion where there should be none.
A facepalm, because fake daykilling is silly, imo.
lol.
I agree, but I felt okay saying it because I no longer believed you were; if I see evidence for a town role I'll keep my mouth shut so that the scum doesn't know immediately.
Nope. If I was a gimmick I'd be Martin Van Buren.
No one's cleared town, but that sudden leap to put suspicion on Tezz was a little TOO sudden.
FoS Archonoid
I am currently out of votes at this time.
May the force be with you.
Yeah, my avatar should randomly flair around or something.
Unvote because we're not in RVS anymore:embarrass:.
Oh, we're not? Well then I'll Unvote too.
you know seppel usually do bad attacks like that to see if someone will bait along? looks like you are todays victimn...
anyway, i hate rvs, lets some something to get the ball rolling. what about a soft mass claim?
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
what, so your previous attack on archonoid was just a joke? its that so?
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Define "soft" in this context? I've seen people mean a lot of different things by "soft claim".
Chibi: Why are we out of the random stage and what side are you choosing on that event?
Wheat Grinder: Are you just following along with Chibi? Why just a F.O.S. on FoS Archonoid? Do you agree with what Seppel said?
tezzeret12: Advocating.
Archonoid: I've seen you around before right? Get a ava so I can remember who you are D:<
Seppel: "Archonoid's attack was absolutely terrible.
TIMELINE
I asked for an explanation of Tezzeret's vote.
Tezzeret responds.
Archonoid says: "Quick to explain yourself. Defensive?"
WHAT
He's creating suspicion where there should be none. "
What makes you think Terrible=Scum?
What makes you think he's not just paranoid?
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Why do you think the ball needs to get rolling?
Why are you proposing a Soft claim to "get the ball rolling" instead of Scum hunting?
What are your ideas for a possible soft claim?
(Nobody claim anything yet.)
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Bait or not, I do kind of think it was bad response on Archanoid's part. But I didn't vote for him because it wasn't quite enough.
I've read bits of two games you're in and you did this BOTH TIMES. I vote no soft mass claim, because from what I've learned through reading other threads, it benefits scum more.
I only FoS'd him. My vote was on Clock King during RVS due to his remarkably silly accent.
Why are you asking others opinions on a soft claim instead of commenting on Tezz/Arch?
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To some extent. I felt RVS was on the way out anyway.
Because there wasn't enough evidence to vote for him and this was where it felt RVS was beginning to end.
Yes. I felt that Archonoid's thought that tezz's move was 'defensive' didn't make sense: After all, you said he should move his vote around, he did randomly, and said so when Seppel asked why. Is it enough to vote for him? Nah. Is it enough to make me watch him a little more? Yes.
I don't like claiming. I vote against a soft claim too.
Wait, really? I thought we had to wait for all the other players to confirm. ._.
He's in Hetalia.
Just curious, how does a soft claim of any kind help scum?
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1)havent thought of anything yet, suggestion?
2) because is funner that way
3)way to go buddy, point where i said i didnt want to scumhunt.
4) see 1
i like this guy, he cares enough to read and learn.
yes my friend, i havent done it on just two games, i do it all the time :D.
good job, read all my games to learn how to play like a pro, you are now my apprentice young padawan.
huh but i thought i have commented? let me rectify this:
its a null tell, we cant extract anything from it. seppel was just joking to gauge reactions or is bad (hint: is probably the latter).
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Do the same thing every time and call myself a pro?
No thanks I'll pass.
I believe that is has to do with the fact that depending on what is claimed, power roles can sometimes be inferred. That's my assumption anyway.
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Soo.. Vote: Shalako
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Pro Soft Claim
DV
Sweet Guinea Pig of Winnipeg, I'm so glad MH is not in this one Seppel doesnt need three votes (Seppel + Shalako + MH = auto voting block)
Smoke killah is kpaca I read in some game somewhere and someone said he was out of town so he can't be kpaca.
If RVS is over then Miller, kthxbye, (damn you whipper snappers and your made up words what ever happened to sending someone a 143?)
12-11? I'm losing track
12-11? I'm losing track
Its like the most amazing thing ever.... All we need is CC to come back.
Because you're obviously town.
Not only was it not a bad attack, but you're talking to the wrong person. I'm attacking Archonoid, not Wheat Grinder.
I've played with Archonoid before. Something this bloodthirsty is way out of his MO.
Neither.
I want Archonoid dead.
If poggy was here, I'd have a complete voting bloc.
Why the pro soft claim? A claim of any kind does not benefit the town in any way. If you think you can break this with flavor, that is a very wrong way to go, this setup was reviewed by Cyan after all.
Totally barn this statement.
As for the early banter between tezz and Archonoid, I have to partly side with the crazy Sep here. That attack was pretty weak, and was really uncalled for. I dunno if it is worth a lynch here right now just for that though, as town would be as likely to do that too.
No... just no.
Oh master of persuasion how you have convinced me.
I believe DRey was saying that he thinks you made an attack on Archonoid to see who jumped on so that you could turn on them as scum.
I hope this is a joke...
We would claim.
1. Amount of Phalanges
Or/And(Depends on how narrow we want to be.I suggest just doing one to avoid outing roles.)
2. Humanoid or not.
Or/And
3. One of the episodes your person was in.
Or/And
Hair Color.
Or/And
Total # of Episodes your person is in.
Sorry I've just cut down to ~One a Day.
If it bothers you at all I'm incredibly willing to change it.
Why are you against a Soft Claim?
Why don't you like claiming?
Even if it narrows down possible switching of Fake-Claims by scum/Forcing them into a bad claim?
Ah.
(Is it bad that this whole time I thought he was arkanoid over in that game?)
Possible outing of roles.
Possible separation of Power Roles from the Herd.
*points at top of post.
Nothing else to comment at that time besides putting a soft-claim on the table?
could you explain more on the "is bad" problem
at that small child.
You act like we weren't all town that game.
And they didn't lynch me
Miller claim or "old" reference?
What game?
Ewww.
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A soft claim really doesn't benefit the town at this point. And a full claim doesn't either. They are both stupid ideas.
Stephen Hawking? Super gimmick?
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Against:S.Hawking?, tezzeret12, Arnnaria, Guardman.
Didn't comment at time of post: Jazaray,
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A mass claim's point isn't to catch scum or encourage flavor gaming.
It's a holder on the scum's roles to lock them in.
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Y'know if you're going to claim Miller you should really say what makes you one...
If he IS claiming Miller he is following the protocol (Claim in first post or get lynched.)
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What part of Miller don't you understand? The Mill or the er.
12-11? I'm losing track
I'm going to request your Name Infinis
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I'm going to request you not WIFOM and game the mod all in one shot.
12-11? I'm losing track
Unvote Vote Infinis
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I'm a voteless redshirt.
While it's true that I tend to do that, this is a legit attack on Archonoid. Do you not think his post to Tezzeret reeked of pushing suspicion where there was none?
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I was under the impression not all Millers are the same; that some have a posting restriction while others have a voting restriction...If there's a clear cut definition, by all means let me know; I'm new to this all and don't know all the terms yet.