Sir Mu is not confirmed, neither are you or Prophylaxis. This is all assumption based. And if you think for one moment that I believe you to be VT/Town at this point, then you be sadly mistaken.
Also, I voted Prophylaxis before his claim. You have brought forward three people, none of which are confirmed. I cound be targeting VT, but we don't know. I don't like how you are trying to force people into the VT category and then trying to stick me to it, ecspecially since you believe Prophylaxis to be scum, but seem to be believing his VT claim at the time.
If TheVoid flips town, I believe this little exchange is significant justification to lynch Arnnaria; I don't like his assumed knowledge, I don't like his assumed knowledge one bit.
If TheVoid flips town, I believe this little exchange is significant justification to lynch Arnnaria; I don't like his assumed knowledge, I don't like his assumed knowledge one bit.
More to add. I know that I will flip town. When I do get lynched, because it looks like I will, I highly believe that Sir Mu will be the NK because of his last post. If he is not, then I would suspect either Sir Mu or Arnnaria more then Prophylaxis.
More to add. I know that I will flip town. When I do get lynched, because it looks like I will, I highly believe that Sir Mu will be the NK because of his last post. If he is not, then I would suspect either Sir Mu or Arnnaria more then Prophylaxis.
What do you mean Sir Mu getting NK'd because of his last post?
You mean lynched, right?
What do you mean Sir Mu getting NK'd because of his last post?
You mean lynched, right?
I'm not so sure on Thevoid now.
No, I mean NK'd. Sir Mu just posted a vert townie post and should now be considered, by scum, as a prodominate threat towards mafia. I will be very surprised if Sir Mu lives through the Night.
No, I mean NK'd. Sir Mu just posted a vert townie post and should now be considered, by scum, as a prodominate threat towards mafia. I will be very surprised if Sir Mu lives through the Night.
This is sending off flags to me as signaling to the remaining scum to kill me.
The crew fights among themselves. They argue about who's who, but one player gets dangerously close to being executed... TheVoid. He scrambles, shouting his name. Arnnaria shouts "Butch's Girlfriend! You Must BE SCUM!" TheVoid shouts back "No! We broke up!"
Prophlaxis silences the crowd by pulling out his gun. *click* "****." He puts a clip in and cocks back the hammer. "Should be better this time" BANG. TheVoid985 has been lynched. He was Fabienne, Town Vanilla. It is now Night 2, Please Stop posting. Night 2 will end no later than Tuesday November 6. Please Submit all night actions by then.
TheVoid985 (5): Gigas1, Brinatoo, Arnnaria, Sir Mu, Prophlaxis
Arnnaria (2): Pink Floyd, TheVoid985
With 9 Alive, it's 5 To Lynch.
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You wake up in the morning and everyone's favorite drug dealer is missing. You find his body tied to a chair and his face bruised. Upon closer inspection you realize that it was Tezzeret12 Tezzeret 12 was killed. He was Lance, Vanilla town
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Note: Some PM's contained flavor whilst others did not.
Weren't you voting for someone prior to this? Either way, this is my "bah" post. I am VT, good luck town!
HERE IS THE GREAT PART! TheVoid does his bah post and claims time. I would have /unvoted in a second if it was an illegitimate vote. I doubt he would lie, considering his spontaneity during the game.
Sorry Void. Town kinda screwed the pooch on this one.
No, you screwed the pooch. Do you realize that he admitted being vanilla when no consequences were to come of it?
Oh, and the flavor shows that it was an illegitimate vote. "Prophlaxis silences the crowd by pulling out his gun. *click* "****." He puts a clip in and cocks back the hammer. "Should be better this time" BANG."
Interesting. Anyways, here's my thoughts on who's scum. Surprised that no-one caught this yet.
Brinatoo wants to end the day quick.
TheVoid is town.
Pretty sure that Brinatoo's eagerness indicates that he is scum.
Vote Brinatoo
1. Yea, terrible case. Explained below.
2. Why did you grab YESTERDAYS material. We had a deadline. We had to end the day quick on account of their being a deadline.........
3. Really?
4. Stop using the word eagerness... It is not an appropriate term to condemn scum. Town can be excited to lynch (who they think is) scum. I was wrong, TheVoid was just very sporatic and hard to follow and who I thought could be scum.
Okay, so here is what is left of our game:
3 VT are dead.
1 Town Doc is dead.
1 Role cop Scum is dead.
There is two scum left. Likely one with an ability.
Town, likely has two power roles left, none of which has claimed and none of which has said if they were roleblocked or anything.
12 People Total:
3 scum (likely one PR, one goon are alive) 1 dead
9 Town (3 PR, 6 VT). 1 dead PR, 3 dead VT. 2 alive PR, 3 alive VT.
2 + 2 + 3 = 7
Arnnaria has claimed VT, I am VT, there is one other VT. Any other people that claim it, means that their is a scum among. This is assuming that Arnnaria is telling the truth and a 4th VT does not come into the picture.
The rest of is A PR.
I think it is Sir Mu with Proph. And here is another thing I want to point out:
If I was scum: I would have shot Proph on account of him probably being a vig. There is not doctor to protect him. He did not die last night. He is probably scum.
Pinkfloyd. If you continue to stay on your case of me and Arnnaria, fine. I will think that, if I am wrong about Sir Mu/Proph, it is you who is scum.
In all honesty. I want our PR's to claim. Not much of VT is left anyway to take the shots and you will likely be killed anyway by odds (fortunately we were lucky about scum hitting VT alot) and it would be much more productive for town if you claimed, so that we know who is confirmed town and we can narrow our investigation.
Sure, your question was directed at Mu, but I did not know he was online and...
provided my input.
His response shortly after.
And the hammer.
HERE IS THE GREAT PART! TheVoid does his bah post and claims time. I would have /unvoted in a second if it was an illegitimate vote. I doubt he would lie, considering his spontaneity during the game.
No, you screwed the pooch. Do you realize that he admitted being vanilla when no consequences were to come of it?
Oh, and the flavor shows that it was an illegitimate vote. "Prophlaxis silences the crowd by pulling out his gun. *click* "****." He puts a clip in and cocks back the hammer. "Should be better this time" BANG."
Your vote was still on Arnnaria.
Reasons stated earlier, as shown by Trusted Wave.
Arigato.
1. Yea, terrible case. Explained below.
2. Why did you grab YESTERDAYS material. We had a deadline. We had to end the day quick on account of their being a deadline.........
3. Really?
4. Stop using the word eagerness... It is not an appropriate term to condemn scum. Town can be excited to lynch (who they think is) scum. I was wrong, TheVoid was just very sporatic and hard to follow and who I thought could be scum.
Okay, so here is what is left of our game:
3 VT are dead.
1 Town Doc is dead.
1 Role cop Scum is dead.
There is two scum left. Likely one with an ability.
Town, likely has two power roles left, none of which has claimed and none of which has said if they were roleblocked or anything.
12 People Total:
3 scum (likely one PR, one goon are alive) 1 dead
9 Town (3 PR, 6 VT). 1 dead PR, 3 dead VT. 2 alive PR, 3 alive VT.
2 + 2 + 3 = 7
Arnnaria has claimed VT, I am VT, there is one other VT. Any other people that claim it, means that their is a scum among. This is assuming that Arnnaria is telling the truth and a 4th VT does not come into the picture.
The rest of is A PR.
I think it is Sir Mu with Proph. And here is another thing I want to point out:
If I was scum: I would have shot Proph on account of him probably being a vig. There is not doctor to protect him. He did not die last night. He is probably scum.
Pinkfloyd. If you continue to stay on your case of me and Arnnaria, fine. I will think that, if I am wrong about Sir Mu/Proph, it is you who is scum.
In all honesty. I want our PR's to claim. Not much of VT is left anyway to take the shots and you will likely be killed anyway by odds (fortunately we were lucky about scum hitting VT alot) and it would be much more productive for town if you claimed, so that we know who is confirmed town and we can narrow our investigation.
These are my thoughts: have at them.
You are scum. You did not shoot me because you wanted to paint me as scum.
I am absolutely certain that you are mafia.
haha you know scum claim nilla when it comes to claims right?
If I was scum: I would have shot Proph on account of him probably being a vig. There is not doctor to protect him. He did not die last night. He is probably scum.
What if you are just a roleblocker?
Pinkfloyd. If you continue to stay on your case of me and Arnnaria, fine. I will think that, if I am wrong about Sir Mu/Proph, it is you who is scum.
Well duh, if they flip town there is no one else you can point the finger at.
In all honesty. I want our PR's to claim. Not much of VT is left anyway to take the shots and you will likely be killed anyway by odds (fortunately we were lucky about scum hitting VT alot) and it would be much more productive for town if you claimed, so that we know who is confirmed town and we can narrow our investigation.
That will be no good. Like you have said, when everyone claims we will be left with ony 2 confirmed townies from their PR's and 5 VT's. You see, in the worse case situation where we lynch nilla town today and then the scum kill nilla at least that gives us 2 confirmed town against a pile of 3 unsure. Then we can lynch off behavior. Claiming today will give us 1 confirmed townie vs. 4 unconfirmed (if we actually don't hit scum), a very bad situation.
Also, I don't want PR's to die now for no reason when they could help us another night.
Sure, your question was directed at Mu, but I did not know he was online and...
provided my input.
His response shortly after.
And the hammer.
HERE IS THE GREAT PART! TheVoid does his bah post and claims time. I would have /unvoted in a second if it was an illegitimate vote. I doubt he would lie, considering his spontaneity during the game.
No, you screwed the pooch. Do you realize that he admitted being vanilla when no consequences were to come of it?
Oh, and the flavor shows that it was an illegitimate vote. "Prophlaxis silences the crowd by pulling out his gun. *click* "****." He puts a clip in and cocks back the hammer. "Should be better this time" BANG."
Your vote was still on Arnnaria.
Reasons stated earlier, as shown by Trusted Wave.
Arigato.
1. Yea, terrible case. Explained below.
2. Why did you grab YESTERDAYS material. We had a deadline. We had to end the day quick on account of their being a deadline.........
3. Really?
4. Stop using the word eagerness... It is not an appropriate term to condemn scum. Town can be excited to lynch (who they think is) scum. I was wrong, TheVoid was just very sporatic and hard to follow and who I thought could be scum.
Okay, so here is what is left of our game:
3 VT are dead.
1 Town Doc is dead.
1 Role cop Scum is dead.
There is two scum left. Likely one with an ability.
Town, likely has two power roles left, none of which has claimed and none of which has said if they were roleblocked or anything.
12 People Total:
3 scum (likely one PR, one goon are alive) 1 dead
9 Town (3 PR, 6 VT). 1 dead PR, 3 dead VT. 2 alive PR, 3 alive VT.
2 + 2 + 3 = 7
Arnnaria has claimed VT, I am VT, there is one other VT. Any other people that claim it, means that their is a scum among. This is assuming that Arnnaria is telling the truth and a 4th VT does not come into the picture.
The rest of is A PR.
I think it is Sir Mu with Proph. And here is another thing I want to point out:
If I was scum: I would have shot Proph on account of him probably being a vig. There is not doctor to protect him. He did not die last night. He is probably scum.
Pinkfloyd. If you continue to stay on your case of me and Arnnaria, fine. I will think that, if I am wrong about Sir Mu/Proph, it is you who is scum.
In all honesty. I want our PR's to claim. Not much of VT is left anyway to take the shots and you will likely be killed anyway by odds (fortunately we were lucky about scum hitting VT alot) and it would be much more productive for town if you claimed, so that we know who is confirmed town and we can narrow our investigation.
These are my thoughts: have at them.
I like this post a lot. I'm not sure if I have strong enough reads to support a massclaim at this point, but I understand the rationale, and agree completely with his analysis of Prophylaxis's final posts of the last day. I'm still in shock that TheVoid was town, but those last posts from Proph do NOT come from a town mindset. I'm going to reread him first, but I expect to vote him tomorrow.
If I was scum: I would have shot Proph on account of him probably being a vig. There is not doctor to protect him. He did not die last night. He is probably scum.
There is NEVER any mention of how the scum kill their targets, so why would you say that they get killed from shooting specifically?
What am I wondering? If the reason I was not killed last night is because scum is going to try and get me lynched today.
Hypothesis: After posting "Hmm, I wonder...", a scum will come out and accuse me of being scum.
Null: After posting "Hmm, I wonder...", no scum will come out and accuse me of being scum.
Method: I will post "Hmm, I wonder...", inevitably provoking response. I will respond to this response as vaguely as possible. The first person, if anyone, to accuse me of being scum is scum.
Considerations: They may not absolutely need to outright say I'm scum; they may be crafty and try to suggest I'm scum without stating it or voting for me. This counts as accusing me of being scum.
Response: If an individual comes forward to accuse me of being scum, they get +10000 scum points, I post this, and then (hopefully) everyone tries to lynch them. If no individual comes forward to accuse me of being scum, then I must consider my gameplay assumptions that have lead me to this believe my hypothesis.
Caveat: If I have to go a long time being vague, inevitably someone is going to be suspicious; it's the nature of the game. If I spend a sufficient amount of time being vague and someone comes forward, I will still post this, but consider the behavior null.
However, Brinatoo being town was something I was previously so sure about:
Why is a fast escalation towards aggression a bad thing in a game of Mafia?
Britanoo is definitely town because of this post portion:
This is a brilliant analytical point, even if it leads to the wrong conclusion of me being scum, that I believe can come only from a townie thinking model, for in a scum thinking model the emphasis would not be placed on the actions of a dead team mate, as doing so has a potential to be self incriminating.
I'm getting a gut feeling of scummy from Arnnaria.
@Prophlaxis, in your case there was one quote which struck me as odd that you would have no read on it:
"I have my flavor gaming suspicions on who the three "mafia" are now. But I'm not going to say until Heart claims."
Please re-evaluate this quote of Arnnaria's and tell me what you think.
haha you know scum claim nilla when it comes to claims right?
What if you are just a roleblocker?
Well duh, if they flip town there is no one else you can point the finger at.
That will be no good. Like you have said, when everyone claims we will be left with ony 2 confirmed townies from their PR's and 5 VT's. You see, in the worse case situation where we lynch nilla town today and then the scum kill nilla at least that gives us 2 confirmed town against a pile of 3 unsure. Then we can lynch off behavior. Claiming today will give us 1 confirmed townie vs. 4 unconfirmed (if we actually don't hit scum), a very bad situation.
Also, I don't want PR's to die now for no reason when they could help us another night.
No, I do not know that. But make me the first town to claim nilla or maybe I'm not? Stop blowing off all of my criteria and inserting your pointless bits of information.
I am not. I haven't done **** at night because I am vanilla, nor receive any flavor.
Wrong, we still have 3 others. That isn't noone else.
Yes, but you are excluding what those two PR's have done for the two previous nights. If one of them is a cop or tracker, then they can confirm many others. That isn't the worse case situation at all. That is the best case situation. The odds of that happening are slim to none. Your explanation about the following day doesn't make sense to me.
And I don't want the PR's to die either, but at this point I think it lucky that we still have 2 alive right now. If, the following two people have alot of information that could confirm another 2 people as town, then it would be detrimental to state that info now.
If we do have a cop: let's say they have targeted one person each night. Assuming those two people that they targeted haven't been killed, they know if they are scum or not. This is the best case scenario. If they have only one person confirmed, then yes, I would recommend they not claim.
If we have a vig: That person hasn't shot, meaning they likely have only one shot. Meaning they don't want to waste it on nilla and want to be sure they hit scum. I am glad they have lived with this shot this long, but the odds are getting much worse in terms of survival and it is a critical decision this night if they chose to shoot.
Bulletproof: Will last until the end if there is not 2 other claimed PR's.
One thing I am worried about is this information/usefulness will be lost in the nether if they are lynched/NK'd. I might have said this before but I want this to be clear.
To the people who directed things at me during this post:
Gigas1: Okay, looking forward to it.
pinkfloyd: True, but I didn't really know that was a big part in scum analysis. I just used "shoot" as a general term for kill in this game of Pulp Fiction Mafia where guns seem like the only solution to all problems. Digi was shot day 1, now that I look back, and Tezz was killed. In the movie, Vincent was shot, and Lance didn't die. That is probably where the flavor is coming from. So if didn't make it clear before, shoot-general term.
Sir Mu: What made you think you were at risk to be Night Killed? I accused you of being scum yesterday, do I fall under your notepad experiment? Obviously, because splinters are beseating you. However, I am not discounting the fact that this could be and probably was a trap set for someone by scum. Solid play if you are scum.
Sir Mu: What made you think you were at risk to be Night Killed? I accused you of being scum yesterday, do I fall under your notepad experiment? Obviously, because splinters are beseating you. However, I am not discounting the fact that this could be and probably was a trap set for someone by scum. Solid play if you are scum.
Thank you for the compliment of my hypothetical scum-play?
Let's just say I have my reasons for thinking I would be night killed. And I had forgotten about your accusing me of being scum yesterday, which is another reason I am on the fence. If you had simply accused me of being scum today, my previous post or not, I'd be trying to get you lynched. Since this isn't a change in behavior and you fully claimed yesterday your intention to vote for me today, you are weighed more evenly.
Currently I have 3 people I think may be scum; you, Arnnaria, and Prophylaxis. Also I guess 4 if you count my recent revelation that I tend to be right more often early in a game than late in one, thus Gigas1 becoming a suspect as well.
No, I do not know that. But make me the first town to claim nilla or maybe I'm not? Stop blowing off all of my criteria and inserting your pointless bits of information.
I think you did. What else would scum claim? And it has NOTHING to do with order, if anything rushing a mass claim by you and your buddy claiming is VERY bad. And how was it pointless?
I am not. I haven't done **** at night because I am vanilla, nor receive any flavor.
Scum would have flavor. You are scum.
Wrong, we still have 3 others. That isn't noone else.
Yes, but you are excluding what those two PR's have done for the two previous nights. If one of them is a cop or tracker, then they can confirm many others. That isn't the worse case situation at all. That is the best case situation. The odds of that happening are slim to none. Your explanation about the following day doesn't make sense to me.
And I don't want the PR's to die either, but at this point I think it lucky that we still have 2 alive right now. If, the following two people have alot of information that could confirm another 2 people as town, then it would be detrimental to state that info now.
I'm fine with PR's claiming if they have gotten SOME information that could be useful, but if they all claim and hove nothing useful it would be stupid.
If we do have a cop: let's say they have targeted one person each night. Assuming those two people that they targeted haven't been killed, they know if they are scum or not. This is the best case scenario. If they have only one person confirmed, then yes, I would recommend they not claim.
Cop + Doc rarely go together in a basic for the fact that the game turns into "follow the cop!"
If we have a vig: That person hasn't shot, meaning they likely have only one shot. Meaning they don't want to waste it on nilla and want to be sure they hit scum. I am glad they have lived with this shot this long, but the odds are getting much worse in terms of survival and it is a critical decision this night if they chose to shoot.
And if they claim they will be killed before they can shoot
Bulletproof: Will last until the end if there is not 2 other claimed PR's.
That is true but its pointless for them to claim at this point, if they get pushed to L-2 and claim it is better and gives us wagon analysis.
pinkfloyd: True, but I didn't really know that was a big part in scum analysis. I just used "shoot" as a general term for kill in this game of Pulp Fiction Mafia where guns seem like the only solution to all problems. Digi was shot day 1, now that I look back, and Tezz was killed. In the movie, Vincent was shot, and Lance didn't die. That is probably where the flavor is coming from. So if didn't make it clear before, shoot-general term.
I don't buy it.
Basically Brin (you don't mind if I call you that for short?) mass claims are for lylo, at this point we can pressure people and play out the day normally. You are hinting that we wont be able to lynch scum today and I'm hoping we do that without a mass claim, therefore it will put us at 1 scum vs. 6 town, 2 confirmed. We are playing today normally.
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I just can't see Britanoo as scum, so maybe the reason I haven't been nightkilled is because I've lead two mislynches. Given my stated desire to lynch Arnnaria yesterday, maybe scum thought they could get another mislynch out of me.
Using this logic, I can say Britanoo is not scum, Arnnaria is not scum, and of course I'm not scum. This leaves Trusted Wave, Prophylaxis, Pinkfloyd, and Gigas1. I think we should discuss a Pinkfloyd scum possibility; we've yet to really do so. I find it odd that he's had almost no players suspect him, and contributed significantly to conversations, and yet is not dead.
I just can't see Britanoo as scum, so maybe the reason I haven't been nightkilled is because I've lead two mislynches. Given my stated desire to lynch Arnnaria yesterday, maybe scum thought they could get another mislynch out of me.
This also makes no sense. If you think you are alive because a you are going to get pinned with 2 bad wagons and you also think I'm scum, why haven't I jumped on you at all?
Arnnaria was going on about how he wanted to lynch me and when I requested a case he never did and moved on to someone else.
Thank you for the compliment of my hypothetical scum-play?
Let's just say I have my reasons for thinking I would be night killed. And I had forgotten about your accusing me of being scum yesterday, which is another reason I am on the fence. If you had simply accused me of being scum today, my previous post or not, I'd be trying to get you lynched. Since this isn't a change in behavior and you fully claimed yesterday your intention to vote for me today, you are weighed more evenly.
Currently I have 3 people I think may be scum; you, Arnnaria, and Prophylaxis. Also I guess 4 if you count my recent revelation that I tend to be right more often early in a game than late in one, thus Gigas1 becoming a suspect as well.
Okay, solid post. Why me and Arnnaria specifically at this point? Arnnaria has been /barning me a little and the null post after being sorry for flavor gaming bothers me, but besides that I'm not seeing it.
I think you did. What else would scum claim? And it has NOTHING to do with order, if anything rushing a mass claim by you and your buddy claiming is VERY bad. And how was it pointless?
Didn't think it through when I posted, it was impulsive. So either you just found a scumslip or I was speaking from the heart. A power role. I wouldn't rush mass claim if I was scum, and I agree that is VERY bad. You are just complaining with me. It isn't productive.
Scum would have flavor. You are scum.
Yea, and PR's would have flavor.
I'm fine with PR's claiming if they have gotten SOME information that could be useful, but if they all claim and hove nothing useful it would be stupid.
True, I think I mentioned thi.
Cop + Doc rarely go together in a basic for the fact that the game turns into "follow the cop!"
Okay.
And if they claim they will be killed before they can shoot
I don't know about the order of night actions.
That is true but its pointless for them to claim at this point, if they get pushed to L-2 and claim it is better and gives us wagon analysis.
True.
I don't buy it.
Okay.
Basically Brin (you don't mind if I call you that for short?) mass claims are for lylo, at this point we can pressure people and play out the day normally. You are hinting that we wont be able to lynch scum today and I'm hoping we do that without a mass claim, therefore it will put us at 1 scum vs. 6 town, 2 confirmed. We are playing today normally.
Nope, that is what I go by for short in WoW. And I was hoping it would help identify scum so we have a successful lynch tonight.
I just can't see Britanoo as scum, so maybe the reason I haven't been nightkilled is because I've lead two mislynches. Given my stated desire to lynch Arnnaria yesterday, maybe scum thought they could get another mislynch out of me.
Using this logic, I can say Britanoo is not scum, Arnnaria is not scum, and of course I'm not scum. This leaves Trusted Wave, Prophylaxis, Pinkfloyd, and Gigas1. I think we should discuss a Pinkfloyd scum possibility; we've yet to really do so. I find it odd that he's had almost no players suspect him, and contributed significantly to conversations, and yet is not dead.
If this logic is correct, and you are town, then this would be true. I am going to do a reread everything with some things in mind. I am having a tough time determining town because of this lack of pointing fingers.
This also makes no sense. If you think you are alive because a you are going to get pinned with 2 bad wagons and you also think I'm scum, why haven't I jumped on you at all?
Arnnaria was going on about how he wanted to lynch me and when I requested a case he never did and moved on to someone else.
That first part was poorly worded.
True this is scummy, as I stated before with the /barning.
Rereads for all individuals with my original thoughts of how they could be scum.
Sir Mu: Already stated, with a reread I might find someone more scummy.
Trusted Wave: I am pretty sure you have done nothing to help town thus far. I do not remember a single vote from you(might be a rvs one but that doesn't count).
Arnnaria: Stuff stated above.
Proph: Pretty sure the recent stuff he has done is a large indication of scum.
pinkfloyd: Too focused on just one idea, smart town should think of all possibilities and develop constructive arguments with eachother to reach a verdict.
Gigas1: Got beef pretty early, need to reread critically after the flame died down.
unvote for now till the reread.
V/LA for this weekend, will be traveling to New York.
Didn't think it through when I posted, it was impulsive. So either you just found a scumslip or I was speaking from the heart. A power role. I wouldn't rush mass claim if I was scum, and I agree that is VERY bad. You are just complaining with me. It isn't productive.
I think I found a slip.
Yea, and PR's would have flavor.
And you already claimed nilla and that leaves one possibly
Pushed? As in denied?
Pushed as in were supporting it.
That first part was poorly worded.
What I was saying is that mu says he believes he has been kept alive so that scum can pin 2 bad wagons on him, and that I could be scum. I was stating that I have always found him townie this game and therefore, by his theory, I cannot be scum. Its also strange that he calls Brin townie but Brin had voted him today because of the bad wagon.
pinkfloyd: Too focused on just one idea, smart town should think of all possibilities and develop constructive arguments with eachother to reach a verdict.
What one idea?
Now that you have read my thoughts on the mass claims Brin, have you changed your opinion?
If you would like players prodded, please provide me a list of the players you would like prodded and I can do so.
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And you already claimed nilla and that leaves one possibly
Pushed as in were supporting it.
What I was saying is that mu says he believes he has been kept alive so that scum can pin 2 bad wagons on him, and that I could be scum. I was stating that I have always found him townie this game and therefore, by his theory, I cannot be scum. Its also strange that he calls Brin townie but Brin had voted him today because of the bad wagon.
What one idea?
Now that you have read my thoughts on the mass claims Brin, have you changed your opinion?
Oh, as in supporting a lynch on YOU ohhhh. No, Arnnaria wanted you shot/lynched. I haven't supported a lynch on you, but it's getting there. It seems you are acting paranoid.
Just to be clear, I did not vote Mu because of the bad wagon. That is false.
Me and Arnnaria being scum.
What specifically are you referring to in the "thoughts on mass claims"?
New York till late Monday
Will do reread Monday or Tuesday and try and refocus with the whole game in mind and take into account everything.
Oh, as in supporting a lynch on YOU ohhhh. No, Arnnaria wanted you shot/lynched. I haven't supported a lynch on you, but it's getting there. It seems you are acting paranoid.
Just to be clear, I did not vote Mu because of the bad wagon. That is false.
Me and Arnnaria being scum.
What specifically are you referring to in the "thoughts on mass claims"?
New York till late Monday
Will do reread Monday or Tuesday and try and refocus with the whole game in mind and take into account everything.
What is with that "shot" **** again?
Also, paranoia is a townie trait. Not trusting anyone and thinking about ALL possibilities. Not a bad thing at all.
Like, do you still want to do it?
That is fine. I understand its a long weekend in the US.
OMGUS Vote if I ever saw one.
Notice how Arnnaria has nothing to say about me pointing that he believes Prophylaxis claim of VT, but yet still considering scum.
More votes on Arnnaria please. We need pressure here.
Still, I want TheVoid lynched today.
And if he flips scum; am I vindicated?
What do you mean Sir Mu getting NK'd because of his last post?
You mean lynched, right?
I'm not so sure on Thevoid now.
No, I mean NK'd. Sir Mu just posted a vert townie post and should now be considered, by scum, as a prodominate threat towards mafia. I will be very surprised if Sir Mu lives through the Night.
This is sending off flags to me as signaling to the remaining scum to kill me.
Hammer time!
Yeah, I'd hammer. TheVoid has had time to say all that he wants to.
Vote TheVoid958
Weren't you voting for someone prior to this? Either way, this is my "bah" post. I am VT, good luck town!
Unvote, Vote TheVoid
Sorry Void. Town kinda screwed the pooch on this one.
Prophlaxis silences the crowd by pulling out his gun. *click* "****." He puts a clip in and cocks back the hammer. "Should be better this time" BANG.
TheVoid985 has been lynched. He was Fabienne, Town Vanilla.
It is now Night 2, Please Stop posting. Night 2 will end no later than Tuesday November 6. Please Submit all night actions by then.
TheVoid985 (5): Gigas1, Brinatoo, Arnnaria, Sir Mu, Prophlaxis
Arnnaria (2): Pink Floyd, TheVoid985
With 9 Alive, it's 5 To Lynch.
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Tezzeret 12 was killed. He was Lance, Vanilla town
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Note: Some PM's contained flavor whilst others did not.
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Reasons?
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Brinatoo wants to end the day quick.
TheVoid is town.
Pretty sure that Brinatoo's eagerness indicates that he is scum.
Vote Brinatoo
Vote Arnnaria
LOL
Sure, your question was directed at Mu, but I did not know he was online and...
provided my input.
His response shortly after.
And the hammer.
HERE IS THE GREAT PART! TheVoid does his bah post and claims time. I would have /unvoted in a second if it was an illegitimate vote. I doubt he would lie, considering his spontaneity during the game.
No, you screwed the pooch. Do you realize that he admitted being vanilla when no consequences were to come of it?
Oh, and the flavor shows that it was an illegitimate vote. "Prophlaxis silences the crowd by pulling out his gun. *click* "****." He puts a clip in and cocks back the hammer. "Should be better this time" BANG."
Your vote was still on Arnnaria.
Reasons stated earlier, as shown by Trusted Wave.
Arigato.
1. Yea, terrible case. Explained below.
2. Why did you grab YESTERDAYS material. We had a deadline. We had to end the day quick on account of their being a deadline.........
3. Really?
4. Stop using the word eagerness... It is not an appropriate term to condemn scum. Town can be excited to lynch (who they think is) scum. I was wrong, TheVoid was just very sporatic and hard to follow and who I thought could be scum.
Okay, so here is what is left of our game:
3 VT are dead.
1 Town Doc is dead.
1 Role cop Scum is dead.
There is two scum left. Likely one with an ability.
Town, likely has two power roles left, none of which has claimed and none of which has said if they were roleblocked or anything.
12 People Total:
3 scum (likely one PR, one goon are alive) 1 dead
9 Town (3 PR, 6 VT). 1 dead PR, 3 dead VT. 2 alive PR, 3 alive VT.
2 + 2 + 3 = 7
Arnnaria has claimed VT, I am VT, there is one other VT. Any other people that claim it, means that their is a scum among. This is assuming that Arnnaria is telling the truth and a 4th VT does not come into the picture.
The rest of is A PR.
I think it is Sir Mu with Proph. And here is another thing I want to point out:
If I was scum: I would have shot Proph on account of him probably being a vig. There is not doctor to protect him. He did not die last night. He is probably scum.
Pinkfloyd. If you continue to stay on your case of me and Arnnaria, fine. I will think that, if I am wrong about Sir Mu/Proph, it is you who is scum.
In all honesty. I want our PR's to claim. Not much of VT is left anyway to take the shots and you will likely be killed anyway by odds (fortunately we were lucky about scum hitting VT alot) and it would be much more productive for town if you claimed, so that we know who is confirmed town and we can narrow our investigation.
These are my thoughts: have at them.
You are scum. You did not shoot me because you wanted to paint me as scum.
I am absolutely certain that you are mafia.
haha you know scum claim nilla when it comes to claims right?
What if you are just a roleblocker?
Well duh, if they flip town there is no one else you can point the finger at.
That will be no good. Like you have said, when everyone claims we will be left with ony 2 confirmed townies from their PR's and 5 VT's. You see, in the worse case situation where we lynch nilla town today and then the scum kill nilla at least that gives us 2 confirmed town against a pile of 3 unsure. Then we can lynch off behavior. Claiming today will give us 1 confirmed townie vs. 4 unconfirmed (if we actually don't hit scum), a very bad situation.
Also, I don't want PR's to die now for no reason when they could help us another night.
LOL
I like this post a lot. I'm not sure if I have strong enough reads to support a massclaim at this point, but I understand the rationale, and agree completely with his analysis of Prophylaxis's final posts of the last day. I'm still in shock that TheVoid was town, but those last posts from Proph do NOT come from a town mindset. I'm going to reread him first, but I expect to vote him tomorrow.
There is NEVER any mention of how the scum kill their targets, so why would you say that they get killed from shooting specifically?
LOL
Text version for people who can't see images:
However, Brinatoo being town was something I was previously so sure about:
I've got splinters in my behind.
That is all you took from that?
You didn't do anything.
I provided you with the idea, and you use it against me. Are you that bad?
No, I do not know that. But make me the first town to claim nilla or maybe I'm not? Stop blowing off all of my criteria and inserting your pointless bits of information.
I am not. I haven't done **** at night because I am vanilla, nor receive any flavor.
Wrong, we still have 3 others. That isn't noone else.
Yes, but you are excluding what those two PR's have done for the two previous nights. If one of them is a cop or tracker, then they can confirm many others. That isn't the worse case situation at all. That is the best case situation. The odds of that happening are slim to none. Your explanation about the following day doesn't make sense to me.
And I don't want the PR's to die either, but at this point I think it lucky that we still have 2 alive right now. If, the following two people have alot of information that could confirm another 2 people as town, then it would be detrimental to state that info now.
If we do have a cop: let's say they have targeted one person each night. Assuming those two people that they targeted haven't been killed, they know if they are scum or not. This is the best case scenario. If they have only one person confirmed, then yes, I would recommend they not claim.
If we have a vig: That person hasn't shot, meaning they likely have only one shot. Meaning they don't want to waste it on nilla and want to be sure they hit scum. I am glad they have lived with this shot this long, but the odds are getting much worse in terms of survival and it is a critical decision this night if they chose to shoot.
Bulletproof: Will last until the end if there is not 2 other claimed PR's.
One thing I am worried about is this information/usefulness will be lost in the nether if they are lynched/NK'd. I might have said this before but I want this to be clear.
To the people who directed things at me during this post:
Gigas1: Okay, looking forward to it.
pinkfloyd: True, but I didn't really know that was a big part in scum analysis. I just used "shoot" as a general term for kill in this game of Pulp Fiction Mafia where guns seem like the only solution to all problems. Digi was shot day 1, now that I look back, and Tezz was killed. In the movie, Vincent was shot, and Lance didn't die. That is probably where the flavor is coming from. So if didn't make it clear before, shoot-general term.
Sir Mu: What made you think you were at risk to be Night Killed? I accused you of being scum yesterday, do I fall under your notepad experiment? Obviously, because splinters are beseating you. However, I am not discounting the fact that this could be and probably was a trap set for someone by scum. Solid play if you are scum.
Thank you for the compliment of my hypothetical scum-play?
Let's just say I have my reasons for thinking I would be night killed. And I had forgotten about your accusing me of being scum yesterday, which is another reason I am on the fence. If you had simply accused me of being scum today, my previous post or not, I'd be trying to get you lynched. Since this isn't a change in behavior and you fully claimed yesterday your intention to vote for me today, you are weighed more evenly.
Currently I have 3 people I think may be scum; you, Arnnaria, and Prophylaxis. Also I guess 4 if you count my recent revelation that I tend to be right more often early in a game than late in one, thus Gigas1 becoming a suspect as well.
I think you did. What else would scum claim? And it has NOTHING to do with order, if anything rushing a mass claim by you and your buddy claiming is VERY bad. And how was it pointless?
Scum would have flavor. You are scum.
I'm fine with PR's claiming if they have gotten SOME information that could be useful, but if they all claim and hove nothing useful it would be stupid.
Cop + Doc rarely go together in a basic for the fact that the game turns into "follow the cop!"
And if they claim they will be killed before they can shoot
That is true but its pointless for them to claim at this point, if they get pushed to L-2 and claim it is better and gives us wagon analysis.
I don't buy it.
Basically Brin (you don't mind if I call you that for short?) mass claims are for lylo, at this point we can pressure people and play out the day normally. You are hinting that we wont be able to lynch scum today and I'm hoping we do that without a mass claim, therefore it will put us at 1 scum vs. 6 town, 2 confirmed. We are playing today normally.
LOL
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Using this logic, I can say Britanoo is not scum, Arnnaria is not scum, and of course I'm not scum. This leaves Trusted Wave, Prophylaxis, Pinkfloyd, and Gigas1. I think we should discuss a Pinkfloyd scum possibility; we've yet to really do so. I find it odd that he's had almost no players suspect him, and contributed significantly to conversations, and yet is not dead.
Because the 2 players who have pushed my lynch are Arnnaria and Brin. I was the one who brought light to the heavy fishing Arnnaria was undertaking.
LOL
This also makes no sense. If you think you are alive because a you are going to get pinned with 2 bad wagons and you also think I'm scum, why haven't I jumped on you at all?
Arnnaria was going on about how he wanted to lynch me and when I requested a case he never did and moved on to someone else.
LOL
Hey! I lead one of those. Quit stealing the credit...
Okay, solid post. Why me and Arnnaria specifically at this point? Arnnaria has been /barning me a little and the null post after being sorry for flavor gaming bothers me, but besides that I'm not seeing it.
Didn't think it through when I posted, it was impulsive. So either you just found a scumslip or I was speaking from the heart. A power role. I wouldn't rush mass claim if I was scum, and I agree that is VERY bad. You are just complaining with me. It isn't productive.
Yea, and PR's would have flavor.
True, I think I mentioned thi.
Okay.
I don't know about the order of night actions.
True.
Okay.
Nope, that is what I go by for short in WoW. And I was hoping it would help identify scum so we have a successful lynch tonight.
If this logic is correct, and you are town, then this would be true. I am going to do a reread everything with some things in mind. I am having a tough time determining town because of this lack of pointing fingers.
Pushed? As in denied?
That first part was poorly worded.
True this is scummy, as I stated before with the /barning.
Rereads for all individuals with my original thoughts of how they could be scum.
Sir Mu: Already stated, with a reread I might find someone more scummy.
Trusted Wave: I am pretty sure you have done nothing to help town thus far. I do not remember a single vote from you(might be a rvs one but that doesn't count).
Arnnaria: Stuff stated above.
Proph: Pretty sure the recent stuff he has done is a large indication of scum.
pinkfloyd: Too focused on just one idea, smart town should think of all possibilities and develop constructive arguments with eachother to reach a verdict.
Gigas1: Got beef pretty early, need to reread critically after the flame died down.
unvote for now till the reread.
V/LA for this weekend, will be traveling to New York.
I think I found a slip.
And you already claimed nilla and that leaves one possibly
Pushed as in were supporting it.
What I was saying is that mu says he believes he has been kept alive so that scum can pin 2 bad wagons on him, and that I could be scum. I was stating that I have always found him townie this game and therefore, by his theory, I cannot be scum. Its also strange that he calls Brin townie but Brin had voted him today because of the bad wagon.
What one idea?
Now that you have read my thoughts on the mass claims Brin, have you changed your opinion?
LOL
Also, can everyone post more?
LOL
Again, I will start posting regularly coming this weekend.
If you would like players prodded, please provide me a list of the players you would like prodded and I can do so.
Please keep in mind that today is a Holiday in the United States.
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Oh I did not realize. Remembrance day is a normal day here...
In that case I understand and can wait.
LOL
I can post some today, but Saturday and Sunday I will be gone.
Oh, as in supporting a lynch on YOU ohhhh. No, Arnnaria wanted you shot/lynched. I haven't supported a lynch on you, but it's getting there. It seems you are acting paranoid.
Just to be clear, I did not vote Mu because of the bad wagon. That is false.
Me and Arnnaria being scum.
What specifically are you referring to in the "thoughts on mass claims"?
New York till late Monday
Will do reread Monday or Tuesday and try and refocus with the whole game in mind and take into account everything.
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What is with that "shot" **** again?
Also, paranoia is a townie trait. Not trusting anyone and thinking about ALL possibilities. Not a bad thing at all.
Like, do you still want to do it?
That is fine. I understand its a long weekend in the US.
LOL