No really, why is this coordination necessary? Cause I'm all for it if it's necessary.
First, why isn't it necessary? Why should we not do this?
Second, it's because this is a mechanic that scum have the chance to disrupt. They can coordinate in private, while we can only coordinate in public. So we have to make sure everyone is accountable for his or her actions. If we don't hold people accountable for disrupting a system, scum can just go "oh I forgot to submit" or "oh I voted at random" while actually voting for someone who will benefit the scum team in some way, and they'll get under the radar.
This is the same strategy that worked to the town's benefit in a similar situation (Hecatea Mafia) so let's continue to use it.
Just need kpaca, Sepiriel and DRey now. 1 more on PF and 2 more on g_d.
Bah, vote whoever you want kpaca, but say your vote here, just in case.
I've already explained my desire, if Nai flips scum I will vote PF, if not I will vote GD.
@Zinda I agree with "if nai flips town that doesn't mean PF is scum" but I really find it strange that PF tracked Nai as I don't remember he being suspitious of him at all yesterday (he told us this, but I'm not buying), but I totally could see scum tracking the actual commander to see if he has some kind of targeted power (cop, doc for example). But that's irrelevant really, Nai not posting anymore, none trying to defend him, and the time he took to respond PF really don't put any doubt he will flip scum to me.
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
I mean I'm voting PF but why are we trying to force people into two?
We discussed it on D1, go reread it plz.
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
I mean you can either tell me or not either way I'm voting PF. I clearly didn't care to have my vote pigeonholed on day 1 cause I voted Zindabad. Like the only reason I can see that people should be forced into voting for 1 of 2 people is if we split votes and get two commanders, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way. So I just frankly do not understand why we are only "allowed" to vote for two people.
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I mean you can either tell me or not either way I'm voting PF. I clearly didn't care to have my vote pigeonholed on day 1 cause I voted Zindabad. Like the only reason I can see that people should be forced into voting for 1 of 2 people is if we split votes and get two commanders, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way. So I just frankly do not understand why we are only "allowed" to vote for two people.
It's pretty basic really, we split our votes on two towniest targets because if scum NK one of those the second one will be one will be choosen commander.
Do you have any problem with this?Maybe you have another suggestion for organization?
Anyway, guys need to start voting, this game is getting boring.
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Hey, I almost forgot to propose my great night plans.
Nai flips scum:
@doc, artifice protect PF or the actual commander (me :D)
@PF better not to reveal your targets, let scum on the dark.
@cop investigate flew, infinis or kpaca.
Nai flips town:
@doc, artifice protect GD, Zinda or me.
@PF better not to reveal your targets, let scum on the dark.
@cop investigate flew, infinis, kpaca or PF.
@claimed powers, do not reveal your targets to make scum life harder.
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Nai (6): Artifice, DRey, Gand, kpaca, pink, zinda Artifice (1): Nai
Nai, AKA Ender Wiggin has been kicked out of Dragon Army. It is now night. Your commander votes and actions are due in 72 hours, aka Tuesday at 11:59 PM CST, or sooner if I get everyone's action in.
Ender Wiggen
You are Ender Wiggen, the best student that battle school has ever had. Obviously this little game thought up by Graff should be no problem for you, even if Graff wants you to learn to think like a traitor. You’re already an expert at getting around the rules and being insubordinate so this shouldn’t be too much of a stretch.
Ability: In the event of a tie vote for the next commander, you hold tie breakers over everyone else, even the previous commander. You are the commander at the start of the game.
Last night Sepiriel AKA Carn Carby was kicked out of Dragon Army last night.
Carn Carby
You are Carn Carby, commander of Rabbit Army, though you are in Dragon Army for as long as this game goes on. Compared to most of the others your ability to strategize is probably the worst. But while this may be true, you are a good commander who knows how to inspire the people around you and gain the most out of them. And sometimes that is more important than being the best strategist.
Ability: Each night you automatically have one vote towards yourself for becoming the commander (this is not your normal night vote). You also do not have to cast a vote for a different commander each night if you don’t want to.
Commander Ability: You cannot be targeted while you are the commander.
why do you say Sep wanted to be commander? I only remember you and Kpaca pushing for it. Maybe I missed something?
Also please stop fishing about my powers, they are more useful if not revealed.
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
I'm amused that [Shalako], of all people, are talking about terrible reasoning. "Hey, PF's RVS daykill must be serious, therefore I should shoot him to prove that I have a daykill!"
Oh, and Sep said he wanted to be commander at the end of D1, when we were comparing you and Zinda. #421
Apparently the definition of awesome is different when coming from Sepiriel...
At some point in the not to distant future, I'll be compiling known info. Maybe we can gleen something from the roles and votes that he was working out? Seems odd.
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Why Sepiriel Dead? I don't see why the scum killed him, with PF investigative role revealed...
/gonna reread Sep.
This post is pretty bad, why are you reread especially Sepiriel and not scum Nai or Zindabad?
Looks like you are just trying to appear townie by saying you will do something usually pro-town, but why the need say it on thread? why don't you just do it and present your conclusions after you do it?
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Why Zinda ? Since I don't know who the modkill comes from (And the alignment of the killer) It could bring very little information.
As for Nai, I already did. Or at least I tried to but his posts were simply overwhelmingly long (I finish work at 6pm and it takes me 2 hours to go back home so you know.) but that's sure something I'd do.
Why Zinda ? Since I don't know who the modkill comes from (And the alignment of the killer) It could bring very little information.
As for Nai, I already did. Or at least I tried to but his posts were simply overwhelmingly long (I finish work at 6pm and it takes me 2 hours to go back home so you know.) but that's sure something I'd do.
Yeah I know how you feels, I had the same problem with Nai's post, they are just too damn hard to read, maybe he did it on purpose? Dunno.
But I think the fact that Kpaca knew he was scum after just ONE post of Nai is pretty damming for him. Because when I replaced in I had the same impression of Zinda, that Nai was probably town because.
1)he was the protagonist
2)he was the commander
3)even if he was scum he probably was not very powerful (and that proved right after all)
I cannot see a reason for Kpaca knowing Nai was scum since so early, heck I don't think remember ANYONE suspecting him until PF got him
Even if he's some godlike player and somehow unmasked Nai early, why he didn't push for his lynch? he just keep repeating "nai is scum" while not voting him (or anyone else for what matters) and lurking.
The fact that he's now pushing for Artifice lynch (pretty much confirmed town to me) also speaks volume to me.
Bah, slow game is slow. Come on guys, report back.
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Yeah I know how you feels, I had the same problem with Nai's post, they are just too damn hard to read, maybe he did it on purpose? Dunno.
But I think the fact that Kpaca knew he was scum after just ONE post of Nai is pretty damming for him. Because when I replaced in I had the same impression of Zinda, that Nai was probably town because.
1)he was the protagonist
2)he was the commander
3)even if he was scum he probably was not very powerful (and that proved right after all)
I cannot see a reason for Kpaca knowing Nai was scum since so early, heck I don't think remember ANYONE suspecting him until PF got him
Even if he's some godlike player and somehow unmasked Nai early, why he didn't push for his lynch? he just keep repeating "nai is scum" while not voting him (or anyone else for what matters) and lurking.
What's your point with all this? If you suspect something is up, why aren't you voting him? Also this:
The fact that he's now pushing for Artifice lynch (pretty much confirmed town to me) also speaks volume to me.
Bah, slow game is slow. Come on guys, report back.
"Speaks volume" is pretty strong. If you're so sure something is off, why no vote? Also this:
This. You were very coy during the exchange between AI and me. I'm not saying you should outted a role, but you sure let us fumble all over each other.
Also, all you're doing that I can see is lurking in plain sight. I see no scum hunting. And why are you suddenly concerned by my scum read from you?
Also I'm ignoring Drey because he's really grasping at straws. After the game I'll tell everyone how I knew Nai was scum and we'll all have a nice guffaw at it.
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I'm amused that [Shalako], of all people, are talking about terrible reasoning. "Hey, PF's RVS daykill must be serious, therefore I should shoot him to prove that I have a daykill!"
First, why isn't it necessary? Why should we not do this?
Second, it's because this is a mechanic that scum have the chance to disrupt. They can coordinate in private, while we can only coordinate in public. So we have to make sure everyone is accountable for his or her actions. If we don't hold people accountable for disrupting a system, scum can just go "oh I forgot to submit" or "oh I voted at random" while actually voting for someone who will benefit the scum team in some way, and they'll get under the radar.
This is the same strategy that worked to the town's benefit in a similar situation (Hecatea Mafia) so let's continue to use it.
Just need kpaca, Sepiriel and DRey now. 1 more on PF and 2 more on g_d.
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
I've already explained my desire, if Nai flips scum I will vote PF, if not I will vote GD.
@Zinda I agree with "if nai flips town that doesn't mean PF is scum" but I really find it strange that PF tracked Nai as I don't remember he being suspitious of him at all yesterday (he told us this, but I'm not buying), but I totally could see scum tracking the actual commander to see if he has some kind of targeted power (cop, doc for example). But that's irrelevant really, Nai not posting anymore, none trying to defend him, and the time he took to respond PF really don't put any doubt he will flip scum to me.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
We discussed it on D1, go reread it plz.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
It's pretty basic really, we split our votes on two towniest targets because if scum NK one of those the second one will be one will be choosen commander.
Do you have any problem with this?Maybe you have another suggestion for organization?
Anyway, guys need to start voting, this game is getting boring.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Art - voting PF
PF - voting g_d
g_d - voting PF
Flew - voting PF
Infinis - voting g_d
DRey - voting g_d OR PF? <-- Just vote me, please, and make this easier.
Kpaca - voting PF
Sep - voting PF (by PoE)
Vote: Nai
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
Nai flips scum:
@doc, artifice protect PF or the actual commander (me :D)
@PF better not to reveal your targets, let scum on the dark.
@cop investigate flew, infinis or kpaca.
Nai flips town:
@doc, artifice protect GD, Zinda or me.
@PF better not to reveal your targets, let scum on the dark.
@cop investigate flew, infinis, kpaca or PF.
@claimed powers, do not reveal your targets to make scum life harder.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
However, no cop nor else direction please (But I doubt we have a tracker and a cop.)
[The Family] pressed the "lynch" button, thinking it was labeled "lunch" .
No point in wasting an investigation on him.
BTW, no Nai, even though he's posted 8 times on the forum since he last posted here. #obvscumisobv
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Vote Count:
Nai (6): Artifice, DRey, Gand, kpaca, pink, zinda
Artifice (1): Nai
Nai, AKA Ender Wiggin has been kicked out of Dragon Army. It is now night. Your commander votes and actions are due in 72 hours, aka Tuesday at 11:59 PM CST, or sooner if I get everyone's action in.
With 8 alive it is 5 to lynch.
Pink is Dragon Army's commander today.
DRey?
why do you say Sep wanted to be commander? I only remember you and Kpaca pushing for it. Maybe I missed something?
Also please stop fishing about my powers, they are more useful if not revealed.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
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This a cop claim?
Barn and probably won't post until Monday. SWTOR Beta.
12-11? I'm losing track
Oh, and Sep said he wanted to be commander at the end of D1, when we were comparing you and Zinda. #421
Apparently the definition of awesome is different when coming from Sepiriel...
At some point in the not to distant future, I'll be compiling known info. Maybe we can gleen something from the roles and votes that he was working out? Seems odd.
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If there were any votes, which there weren't, they have been reset.
With 7 alive it is 4 to lynch.
Nope, I think he's scum because of his interation with Nai.
Don't think so, also stop fishing too.
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Ugh, so anyone wants to claim Zinda's daykill?
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
/gonna reread Sep.
[The Family] pressed the "lynch" button, thinking it was labeled "lunch" .
vote: Artifice 101
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This post is pretty bad, why are you reread especially Sepiriel and not scum Nai or Zindabad?
Looks like you are just trying to appear townie by saying you will do something usually pro-town, but why the need say it on thread? why don't you just do it and present your conclusions after you do it?
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
As for Nai, I already did. Or at least I tried to but his posts were simply overwhelmingly long (I finish work at 6pm and it takes me 2 hours to go back home so you know.) but that's sure something I'd do.
[The Family] pressed the "lynch" button, thinking it was labeled "lunch" .
Yeah I know how you feels, I had the same problem with Nai's post, they are just too damn hard to read, maybe he did it on purpose? Dunno.
But I think the fact that Kpaca knew he was scum after just ONE post of Nai is pretty damming for him. Because when I replaced in I had the same impression of Zinda, that Nai was probably town because.
1)he was the protagonist
2)he was the commander
3)even if he was scum he probably was not very powerful (and that proved right after all)
I cannot see a reason for Kpaca knowing Nai was scum since so early, heck I don't think remember ANYONE suspecting him until PF got him
Even if he's some godlike player and somehow unmasked Nai early, why he didn't push for his lynch? he just keep repeating "nai is scum" while not voting him (or anyone else for what matters) and lurking.
The fact that he's now pushing for Artifice lynch (pretty much confirmed town to me) also speaks volume to me.
Bah, slow game is slow. Come on guys, report back.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
"Speaks volume" is pretty strong. If you're so sure something is off, why no vote? Also this:
/barn
Then again, why is gan_dan so town to us all? Is it the "he's probably Doc because of breadcrumbing," thing from Day 1? Because I'm not seeing it now.
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I'll post tomorrow morning when I'm sober but I will say last night I was role blocked.
SWAAAAAG!
LOL
[The Family] pressed the "lynch" button, thinking it was labeled "lunch" .
Oh? What has changed?
What is with the fishing for cops? Everyone cut it out.
Also if no one claims this daykill I'll assume its scum.
LOL
This. You were very coy during the exchange between AI and me. I'm not saying you should outted a role, but you sure let us fumble all over each other.
Also, all you're doing that I can see is lurking in plain sight. I see no scum hunting. And why are you suddenly concerned by my scum read from you?
You got a flavor for that role block?
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LOL
Also I'm ignoring Drey because he's really grasping at straws. After the game I'll tell everyone how I knew Nai was scum and we'll all have a nice guffaw at it.
Kill Pink_floyd, RB ganderin_dan is optimal play for scum.
12-11? I'm losing track
Please try and participate.
Vote ganderin_dan
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Oh infinis, you so funny! To tell you the truth I'm not that happy to be voting Art, I'd rather one of: DRey, dan or infinis
LOL