Okay, you guys completely caught me in my lies. I am Kevin, the serial killer. I have been making the kills during the day. Good job to RafaelK for catching that one. Props also to Axelrod for noticing the bit about Wallenquist. I have absolutely no idea who make up the mafia.
I guess I won't win best SK again for 2006 with play like this, huh?
Cool. So we have 7 votes on LJ, 1 more to lynch. Draygn_Mage has agreed to protect MattJoe. MattJoe should keep his investigation target to himself, but I reccommend Crippled_Fist or Rhino.
If anyone else has business, raise it now.
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I guess I won't win best SK again for 2006 with play like this, huh?
Actually, I don't think anyone would have suspected you if MJM hadn't investigated you. And your claim was reasonable. It would have been more believable if a townie was on your list.
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I can't think of anything either. I would rather Rhino got lynched but I also support the ljustus wagon.
why are you so nervous to get me lynched? You haven't even posted any reasons on it, that I recall anyway.
Alright, I am quite glad we caught scum - I was going to chime in and say that I was really feeling pretty sure he was SK, but obv he claimed it. Also, I am feeling much stronger about CF being scum, but we can get into that tomorrow, eh?
Obv, we should lynch LJ day 1 from now on, just in case.
I don't really have time to do real analysis, so instead, I'm just gonna post my notes! It's all I've got right now, but if I live to see tomorrow, I'll go in depth in any of these that require it. Some of it's kinda vague, but you'll get over it.
JCSuperstar - attacks 4 non-mafia, "mudslinging" at Puzzle(#139), outs Az(#227), votes AS (#292), pushes AS(#328), fingers 4 "townies," 2 without FOSes(#487), supports HR(#500), points at 2 non-mafia, AS and Puzz, for lynch canidates(#531), IPS(#556) attacks HE7, anti-vig(#731), "I'm confused", a little too angry(#813), defends Axel(#927), lots of passive agressive attacks on known townies and probable townies(#958), scum if ever I saw it(#1013), doesn't understand the case he presents, says Matjoe should hold his info(#1037), continues attack on DM(#1046), still attacking DM(#1069), SCUM!!(#1108), SCUUMMMM!!!(#1134)
RafaelK - declares my sarcasm as sarcasm(#105), passive agressive attack on Puzzle(#190), passive agressive attack on Fayul(#242), "is a neutral without a kill the best lynch today?" obv answer, votes AS(#281), has faith in HR, votes Puzzle on sound reasoning(#385), defends and supports HR(#459), bad logic on Az, attacks AS(#463), know too much?(#668), anti-vig(#723), *raises eyebrow*(#738), mailman watcher, mason with armlx, led to the suspicion that armlx was Kevin(#785), suggested going after HE7 to armlx(#839), logic is flawed(#847), adjusting play-style?(#872), pushes armlx lynch(#944), sets up potential WoLG lynch(#1016), keeps pushing DM(#1099), is scum, obv obv obv(#1109), lynch-after-next, content? not really(#1118), constantly putting doubt in pro-town claims(#1129)
Ljustus - "Sorry for lurking/I'm confused" (#122), "I can be pro-town too"(#144), "I have no opinion, but can comply!"(#201), attacks Fayul(#222), awk. speculation on SK(#307), votes HR(#389), passive agressive attack on Axel(#397), SCUM(#557), pro-vigging(#862), lynch the cop!(#906), ignores the obvious(#912), wishy-washy vote armlx(#963), passive agressive attack on Raf(#1080), claims(#1130)
Highroller - Not a Sin City charachter, FOSes Raf for fishing, can go out at night, was in the town hall night 1, didn't see WoLG(?), says Dwight has a tendency to survive, Kev is not nuetral(#363), infamous questions(#371), Az has his own agenda(#377), FOS LJ(#398), Votes I(#410), ever get cold? @ HE7(#428), Vote Az, contridict much?(#435), Votes LJ, attacks Fayul and Matjoe(#449), suddenly votes Puzz(#539), strongly advocates vig(#712), knows who targets him?(#786), conserving lynch targets?(#814), oh, well then(#924), just go with it(#956), hiding info about role(#992), interested in WoLG?(#1011), weak fos on chamber(#1033), serious?(#1049), vote WoLG(#1051), supports DM(#1067)
Axelrod - declares himself town in first post(#41) casts suspicion on HR with shoddy reasoning, bets there is no pattern to roles(#102), passive agressive hypocritical vote set-up on Puzzle(#326), Wishy-washy Puzzle vote(#346), Umm...seriously?(#392), guessing HR's comic(#445), part of the manipulation?(#478), misses the point(#495) WTF?(#497), case on Puzzle based on other's accusations(#530), believes public cop, "no bright ideas"(#616), points at 2 non-mafia(#689), anti-vig(#724), "let's look at HE7's accusers"(#755), possibly knows better?(#796), is it, now?(#809), CP: why are you answering the question?(#826), don't lynch armlx!(#945), anti-vigging, but with a minor concesion(#985), vote fade(#1115)
Draygn Mage - subliminal claim of Miho, the Bodygaurd, clarifies as a watcher/vig variant of bodygaurd, wagons Hawkeye, following DYH(#186), Yup, all locked in(#401), top 3 and why(#448), "I'm confused"(#778), c'mon now...(#803), "I'm confused"(#850), meh...it'll do(#947), OMGUS vote Raf(#1128)
WellofLosGnomes - can only post 7 times a day as someone wants to keep him quiet, "guesses" that Puzzle can vote no-lynch(#169), guesses that whoever is after him killed DYH, smoked his brain away when young, possibly has the AWC of killing (an)other player(s)(#276), supports TMNT claim, one of HR or Raf is scum, hints at TMNT-ness, fingers Puzz, HR, Fayul, and I(#504), had info on Az?(#753), pro-vigging, wishy-washy Vote Az(#859), info of some form?(#959)
Crippled_Fist - inadvertantly hints at being a character, getting a townie feeling(#188), not keeping up with the game(#323), Wishy-washy suspicion on HR(#466), Wishy-washy vote vig(#710, #719), "I'm confused"(#819), attacks Axel, defends armlx(#849), I'm feelin' it(#892), wishy-washy vote on armlx(#917), FOS DM(#1072)
Rhinocero (replacing Einsteinmonkey) - EM:didn't think his character was from Sin City(#45), faked not having a killing role(#66), latches onto Fade's arguement(#183), "I'm surised, but I can be helpful(not really)" posting DYH's posts very soon after his death(#251, #252), Aren't we all locked in?(#400), first to catch Az's vote(#474), sees potential sarcasm(#552), attacks 2 townies, wishy-washy acceptence of pro-vigging, too compliant(#889), I'm feelin' it(#916), bad attack on Axel(#978), Fos DM, Fos HR(#1073)
Matjoeman steps to the front of the crowd. "He's not one of us. I don't know if he's one of them, but he's not one of us."
Murmurs ripple through the crowd. Angry mutters begin to arise. The argument goes back and forth all day. LJustus isn't the only one under suspicion. But when he was caught lying, it was the last straw. It was time to put him down.
You gather around him, unholstering your weapons. LJustus just turns and smiles. There's a crazy calm in his eyes. He's cool, collected, fearless.
"It's your game, boys. I'm ready to face what I have to face. I'm sick of running."
With a single swift motion, his hand darts into his jacket. You reach for your own weapon, but he's fast, faster than any of you. A pro. Everything slows down. Every heartbeat seems to last an eternity. You see the barrel of his gun coming out of his coat. Black and cold and smooth.
It rises in a blur of motion. Up, up, up, towards Matjoeman's head. Your arm is rising too, but it feels like it's stuck in jello compared to his. He's just too fast. His finger is on the trigger. He starts to squeeze. You draw a bead on his head, right between his eyes.
Gunshots ring out, all across the room. Too slow. He beat you to it.
A bullet through his brain. His own brain. Clean, fast, smooth. The rest of the bullets hit home, and his body shudders from the impact, but he was already gone. What's left of him falls to the floor and collapses in a bloody mess. But that cool smile is still on his face, mocking you. And a strangely peaceful look in his eyes.
Matjoeman moves to his side, and checks him over. A bullet-proof vest, battered by heavy service. A gun, with a clip holding only three bullets. And last of all, a note, from someone named Frank. Some kind of list.
Probably nothing important. You toss it aside.
A solemn hush falls over the group, as you depart for the night. You can all feel it.
The end is coming soon.
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LJustus, Neutral Hitman, aka "The Salesman", is dead.
Dead: 1. DYH-Townie Lunatic/Roleblocker/Investigator. Slashed to ribbons on Day One.
2. Kenji-Townie Paranoid. Died of a sudden heart attack day one. (Modkill)
3. Puzzle- Neutral Pacifist. Lynched by the town day one.
4. Bateleur-Townie, the Doctor's Daugher. Throat slashed night two.
5. Hawkeye7-Townie Bodyguard. Sliced and diced by ninja stars day 2.
6. Armlx-Townie Mailman. Lynched by the town day 2.
7. Fayul- Townie, Overzealous Vigilante. Turned into a pez dispenser, night 3.
8. Sorryguy-Townie, Neutral Mason. Throat crushed night 3.
9. Fadeblue-Mafia, False Cop, Mafia Leader. Poisoned day 3. 10. LJustus, Neutral Hitman, aka "The Salesman", lynched day 3.
MIA:
1. Dwight McCarthy-Townie Mod Persona. Chased out of town, shot, and possibly killed, day 2
Night will end Friday, January 27th at 2:00 P.M. EST, or sooner.
To those locked in the Town Hall, this list should appear very familiar. It is the list of those still alive as of Day Three. The third day of this quarantine ended with LJustus, who was revealed to be a hitman known in many circles as “The Salesman”. After LJustus’ suicide, a note was found:
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Matjoeman moves to his side, and checks him over. A bullet-proof vest, battered by heavy service. A gun, with a clip holding only three bullets. And last of all, a note, from someone named Frank. Some kind of list.
Probably nothing important. You toss it aside.
The most immediate question is who is Frank? Frank Miller maybe? Don't think there was a Frank in Sin City, unless it was an obscure minor character. Perhaps it was Frank, the demon bunny from Donnie Darko.
Who Frank is, however, is less important than the note itself.
First of all, from our list of survivors, let us cross off the people we know are not mafia. Matjoeman is the most in the clear out of anyone right now. I think we all believe he is the inspector. From this, we can also clear Aurorasparrow, who was cleared by Matjoeman.
This reporter thinks it’s also very safe to clear carrion_pigeons. Carrion claimed roleblocker, roleblocked fadeblue, and began the case that lead to fadeblue’s death. When the mafia were very close to winning, to make a push against a mafia leader would be a very stupid thing for a mafia to do. Thus, carrion is also cleared.
This reporter knows, without doubt, that Highroller is also cleared. Thus, we are left with:
What we KNOW for certain is that LJustus had a list and three bullets. He claimed a killer that had a list with names on it, and he did have a list. He claimed a killer who only had three bullets, and he only had three bullets on him.
Given that he was not working with the mafia, I don’t see his motivation for lying about the names that were on it. Since LJustus was willing to take a risk outing he was a killing role, I’m thinking it’s probably unlikely that he would try to actively steer the town away from lynching the mafia, his one hope of winning.
If LJustus was telling the truth, and if the note had the names Wallenquist, Kevin, and Manute on it, then something very interesting happens.
There are twenty-three people in this game, That leaves room for four or five anti-town roles. Assume four mafia plus LJustus. If there are four mafia, then it is not unreasonable three of these mafia are named Wallenquist, Kevin, and Manute, with fadeblue in addition. I find this interesting, since fadeblue turned out to be a false cop.
There was a false cop in the Sin City movie. His name was Bob, a partner to Hartigan, who sold him out to the Roarkes. The reason I think fadeblue was Bob is because he turned out to be the mafia leader. Now, tell me, why would a false cop be a mafia leader? It doesn’t make sense on any level, UNLESS that false cop, by virtue of being a false cop, got some kind of immunity to inspections, thereby being a godfather role even though a false cop is not in a position of true power.
This makes me believe all the more that the mafia are all characters from Sin City.
If this is true, then we can accomplish some things. First off, it makes me seriously doubt Draygn_Mage is mafia. I think there’s enough evidence that Miho is in the game. Given that he gave subtle hints at being Miho before the Pez dispenser finding, and that he has yet to be counterclaimed, we can say that D_M is Miho. And it is reasonable to believe Miho is town based on the newfound information.
RafaelK is also most likely not mafia. RafaelK guessed what comic Highroller was from instantly, without any kind of a clue. For this reason, RafaelK’s claim that he is Casey Jones is likely to be true. Thus, if the mafia are characters from Sin City, RafaelK cannot be mafia.
Detective Hartigan should investigate someone from this list. It is my personal opinion that he should investigate CropCircles, as I have been in conflict as to whether or not CropCircles is mafia the entire game.
During the night, those of you who are still awake each notice a professional-looking, type-written piece of paper slipped under your doors.
It reads:
Hello everyone!
This is Dark Horse, publisher of the Sin City comic. Since I publish this whole thing, I get to insert my own editorial comments whenever I want (actually just once each night.)
To be honest, I haven't been sure how to best use my role. I don't receive any extra information, so really this is equivalent to making one anonymous post per day. At first I tried to be flavorful, but I don't really think that helps the town. So I'll just say what I'm thinking.
I'm town (if I want the comic to sell, the bad guys need to get it in the end.) So I imagine that whoever is writing the "Basin City News" is probably anti-town. I'm not sure what it means that the newspaper "cleared" Highroller, but I wouldn't automatically trust it. Could be WIFOM though.
Reading through the article, I think it actually makes a pretty good case for the remaining mafia being Sin City roles. The reasons I have not to trust it are (1) the source, and (2) that Az wouldn't want to have the game broken by a mass claim. But if we believe the mafia are all Sin City scum, maybe we should do that claim and find out.
Sometime during the night, a storm rolled over the city. The rain is still hammering overhead, with occasional crashes of thunder and flashes of lightning for emphasis. It looks like you're headed for a gloomy day.
To top it off, the roof is leaking like a sieve. Rainwater mixes with dirt from the ceiling and falls on your heads like an unholy baptism of filth. Water starts to accumulate on the floor, and the town hall is taking on the appearance of a sinking ship. None of it is helping your mood.
Nevertheless, there can be no quarter in this fight. You grit your teeth, and go through the daily ritual of counting heads.
Only twelve of you. Someone else is missing.
You search the building until you arrive at Cropcircles' door. What's left of it, anyways. You step inside. All throughout the room, there are candles and sticks of incense burning softly. A small, ornate sitting cushion on the floor, next to a short table. A few books: "Summoning the Dead, For Dummies", "How to Lie Convincingly and Get Paid for it-My Journey as a Psychic", and a copy of the movie "Ghost".
Cropcircles himself is lying in a pool of blood, his throat ripped open by two horizontal claw marks, and a shuriken planted between his eyes. Looks like his psychic powers didn't do him much good.
You return to the town hall, wiping blackened raindrops from your face. This could be your last day alive, for all you know. Better make it a good one.
Dead: 1. DYH-Townie Lunatic/Roleblocker/Investigator. Slashed to ribbons on day 1.
2. Kenji-Townie Paranoid. Died of a sudden heart attack day 1. (Modkill)
3. Puzzle- Neutral Pacifist. Lynched by the town day 1.
4. Bateleur-Townie, the Doctor's Daugher. Throat slashed night 2.
5. Hawkeye7-Townie Bodyguard. Sliced and diced by ninja stars day 2.
6. Armlx-Townie Mailman. Lynched by the town day 2.
7. Fayul- Townie, Overzealous Vigilante. Turned into a pez dispenser, night 3.
8. Sorryguy-Townie, Neutral Mason. Throat crushed night 3.
9. Fadeblue-Mafia, False Cop, Mafia Leader. Poisoned day 3. 10. LJustus, Neutral Hitman, aka "The Salesman", lynched day 3. 11. Cropcircles, Townie Psychic. Throat slit night 4.
MIA:
1. Dwight McCarthy-Townie Mod Persona. Chased out of town, shot, and possibly killed, day 2
During the night, those of you who are still awake each notice a professional-looking, type-written piece of paper slipped under your doors.
It reads:
Hello everyone!
This is Dark Horse, publisher of the Sin City comic. Since I publish this whole thing, I get to insert my own editorial comments whenever I want (actually just once each night.)
To be honest, I haven't been sure how to best use my role. I don't receive any extra information, so really this is equivalent to making one anonymous post per day. At first I tried to be flavorful, but I don't really think that helps the town. So I'll just say what I'm thinking.
I'm town (if I want the comic to sell, the bad guys need to get it in the end.) So I imagine that whoever is writing the "Basin City News" is probably anti-town. I'm not sure what it means that the newspaper "cleared" Highroller, but I wouldn't automatically trust it. Could be WIFOM though.
Reading through the article, I think it actually makes a pretty good case for the remaining mafia being Sin City roles. The reasons I have not to trust it are (1) the source, and (2) that Az wouldn't want to have the game broken by a mass claim. But if we believe the mafia are all Sin City scum, maybe we should do that claim and find out.
Your friend,
Dark Horse
It appears this Dark Horse is still in the game, as opposed to Az (even though it may well still be Azrael, considering how this game's been going). Personally, I think whoever Dark Horse is should, at this point, reveal his identity. We no longer have any time for mind games. That, and I'm pretty darn positive.
Personally, I think the mafia are among these five:
JCSuperstar
Axelrod
WoLG
Crippled_Fist
Rhinocero
with perhaps the most likely being Crippled_Fist, but I await Matjoeman's inspection before proceeding further.
Anyone else think the night poster who isn't darkhorse is highroller?
I think that's pretty obvious at this point.
In any event "Dark Horse" needs to come out now, I think. (Surprise, it's not me).
And let's hope MatJoe was paying attention.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Between non-posting and the amount of information roles we've seen already, it became pretty obvious by yesterday that the newspaper wasn't a cop, in which case the only person who could be clearing Highroller is Highroller (heck, after the mention of Basin City I figured it to be either Hawkeye or Highroller or someone trying to fake being one of those two). That's why I've been pretty sure for a while what Highroller's rolename must be, too.
While waiting for MJM, I don't mind kicking the day off with MY results. Since the person I watched hasn't copped to anything unusual despite posting already today.
Being obsessive pays off sometimes. I watched draygn, duh.
And our bodyguard got no night PM from the mod! HE DID NOTHING!
I tried to inspect Crippled_Fist, but noooooooooooooooooooooo mr. pointless vote force made me Vote: Cropcircles. Hes dead anyway Unvote. I was preoccupied with being tortured to complete the investigation.
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Care to dispute that, draygn?
Yeah dm whatever happened to targeting me, you could've killed mr. pointless vote forcer.
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10. LJustus, Neutral Hitman, aka "The Salesman", lynched day 3.
First off, I'm not Dark Horse, though that should be obvious.
Second of all, what the heck, D_M? You'd better have a good explanation. We kind of needed that investigation.
Third of all, was LJustus lying or not? I mean, obviously he lied at least twice, but which times? It's extremely strange to me that he would just volunteer to be lynched like that, at any point.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
One - the evidence against DM seems to be pretty strong to the tune that he's a liar. Unlikely ability - both by mechanics and by combining multiple other roles in the game. Wasn't used last night, when it definitely should have been. Killed a townie admittedly. So I am definitely suspicious of him.
Two - LJustus was obviously a liarpants. The question is, was he the daykiller? Almost certainly not. Which means we've still got two kills coming down our pants. Hopefully crossfire will occur again..
Three - should we look again at CropCircle's list of suspects? JCSuperstar, RafK and Highroller top it.
Four - I am not Dark Horse. Although it makes flavorful sense - we are literally in a comic.
I tried to inspect Crippled_Fist, but noooooooooooooooooooooo mr. pointless vote force made me Vote: Cropcircles. Hes dead anyway Unvote. I was preoccupied with being tortured to complete the investigation.
Damn...
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Four - I am not Dark Horse. Although it makes flavorful sense - we are literally in a comic.
Damn. Ljustus not being the SK is really, really bad for us.
Uh, maybe I misread but I was pretty sure Miho/DM's ability can only work if the person is killed. And then (s)he has the option of taking vengeance. So he might not get any reply message if MJM isn't killed.
I really think we shouldn't lynch DM when Miho is so obviously townie (flavor-wise) and we cant afford to waste anymore kills. Maybe later, but not now.
vote Rhino.
Oh.. and that last kill was REALLY, REALLY Shredder-like. We may end up overthinking that fact, however.
I really, really don't think advocating lynching DM was ever a good idea. To be doing it when the town is in this situation just makes you look worse in my eyes.
The way I read it, I get a PM if anyone targets my charge at all. however, either RafaelK is lying or the PM I got didn't count towards his ability. I got a PM telling me that I got no results last night. So apparently the scum have a role-blocker? I thought we knew who was forcing Hawkeye to vote for random people?
The way I read it, I get a PM if anyone targets my charge at all. however, either RafaelK is lying or the PM I got didn't count towards his ability. I got a PM telling me that I got no results last night. So apparently the scum have a role-blocker? I thought we knew who was forcing Hawkeye to vote for random people?
According to Raf. you received no PM last night. That's what he does, right? Carry the PMs? So one of you is lying.
And Dark Horse, where are you?
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
According to my PM I got a note telling me my ability was blocked. It read sort of the way one might expecet to be told they had chosen an illegal target in magic... I'm trying really hard to paraphrase it and not get mod killed.
EBWODP- I had to PM Azrael and ask if he forgot about me. Then I got my PM telling me what happened. I thought it was one of our masons that did the forced vote beatings...
D_M, I just don't believe you. What it looks like is that you're trying to find a way to justify not having targeted MJM last night.
If you were scum, it would have made sense for you to target Fayul when you did. I guess if you were scum, it would make sense to try to fake your way through your "ability" by not killing him, but having him roleblocked. It seems like a desperation move, but what else have you got at this point? I'm not falling for it.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
The way I read it, I get a PM if anyone targets my charge at all. however, either RafaelK is lying or the PM I got didn't count towards his ability. I got a PM telling me that I got no results last night. So apparently the scum have a role-blocker? I thought we knew who was forcing Hawkeye to vote for random people?
I'm confused. If MJM was roleblocked, tortured, and forced to vote for Cropcircles, then why weren't you informed of this?
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vote JCSuperstar
Can you explain why you think I'm the best lynch for today?
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At the end of yesterday I was the LEAST likely person to be investigated by MJM. It makes no sense for me to roleblock him. And why is no one willing to take a look at the vote-forcing beatings???
SOMEBODY CLAIMED THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BEATINGS ON HAWKEYE AND NOW OUR COP IS GETTING BEATEN????
I'll go back and look at yesterday since no one else is willing to do so apparently.
My ability kicks in for successful targetings only.
I was told previously if the person I watched was not targetted at all during the night.
Last night I was specifically told (via PM from Azrael) that I got no results whatsoever.
This was *after* the morning scene had been posted and I PM'd Azrael to see what happened (I thought he forgot about me).
I am going to try and paraphrase my ability as best I can. Near as I can figure if I was a magic card my ability would read:
Miho
Enchantment- Aura
If creature being enchanted by Miho is is the target of a resolved ability, you may have Miho destroy target permanent that targetted the creature enchanted by Miho.
I think that is a successful and totally legal paraphrasing of my role/ability.
Last night I was basically told that my ability fizzled, like Matjoeman was an illegal target for me or something. I can only attribute that to 1 of two things. I was countered (roleblocked) or Matjoe has protection from my ability (which I find retarded and not at all likely).
I'm sorry, I didn't realize the town was doing mass claims
Did you realize that if we still have a daykiller running around, to which I see no reason why we wouldn't, not killing a mafia today will likely result in us losing the game?
carrion_pigeons: Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are the roleblocker right? At least you claimed to have roleblocked fadeblue. Did you roleblock Draygn_Mage as well?
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
Last night I was specifically told (via PM from Azrael) that I got no results whatsoever.
This was *after* the morning scene had been posted and I PM'd Azrael to see what happened (I thought he forgot about me).
In other words, you didn't get a PM last night (only after day had started) so my result was absolutely correct. Your honesty, however, is appreciated. I can't decide whether that makes you more townie or just a mafia who realises that calling me a liar might get me lynched today but would get you lynched tomorrow for sure. Hmph.
The issue here is more or less this- how many roleblocks do we believe actually occurred last night? We now have three claimed (mystery "fizzled" roleblock on DM, the vote/unvote-forcer roleblock on matjoe, and cp's roleblock on WOLG). This is day 4. Where has this stuff been hiding? matjoe wasn't blocked yesterday, then two unidentified blocks show up today?
For that matter, what the heck has happened to the vote-forcer who used chamber and SG to force Azrael's vote? I suppose it could have been fadeblue, or maybe it doesn't work anymore once SG died.
Still, there's a lot of unidentified powers floating around and comparatively few people for them to belong to.
However, also:
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I'm currently voting a hunch.
At the end of yesterday I was the LEAST likely person to be investigated by MJM. It makes no sense for me to roleblock him.
Least likely? You? Bullpucky.
And also, did someone accuse you of being the scum roleblocker? Why are you straw-manning against an argument that you're the scum roleblocker?
And your argument is blatantly pointless even if you were the least likely and even if you were accused of being the scum role-blocker (since if you were scum you might block MJM to prevent him investigating another scum).
And why is no one willing to take a look at the vote-forcing beatings???
SOMEBODY CLAIMED THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BEATINGS ON HAWKEYE AND NOW OUR COP IS GETTING BEATEN????
I'll go back and look at yesterday since no one else is willing to do so apparently.
OMG! I'll change the subject and get righteous! Look, our cop was targeted by the same ability that targeted Hawkeye! I'll find out the truth, just wait!
I just got over that feeling you might actually be townie pretty quickly. Scummy post or what? vote draygn_mage, once more with feeling.
And for the triple-
FOS JCSuperstar, because he really has been jumping around like a frog on a hot log and I'm wondering if the thing between DM and him might be a distancing tactic. DM's hunch voting is a nice way to vote for someone without actually persuading anyone else to go along with the wagon.
Speaking of WolG, where is he? hes posted even less than rhino..
also, I dont believe it but we must always be aware of the possibility that Raf is mafia and set up armlx. Id really rather go after someone with no pro-town evidence, however.
I highly doubt anyone will admit to being Dark Horse at this point. I think it's pretty clear that he/she is mafia.
And we need to mass claim. We are dealing with the very realistic possibility that there is no tomorrow.
Since the person who gets the dead people to talk is himself dead, I'll spill everything:
I'm April O'Neill. Reporter. Each night I can write a news article. In addition, I know the identity of any person who targets me with an ability, but I only get the name, not the ability. The only person who has the entire game, unfortunately, is RafaelK during the first night. That's kind of the reason I typed that I was a confirmed town by inspection, hoping that the mafia would target me, and CropCircles would in turn work his mojo.
I can confirm RafaelK's claim, because all he did was hover outside my door that night. So he is a watching role. Azrael didn't tell me whether or not he was town, but I do believe he is.
So now we have RafaelK backing up JCS and FOSing him in the same post? Raf, read my posts again. I posted about the beaters before that and no one said anyting about it, hence me posting in all caps. By the way, nice misrepresentation, considering the all caps post came BEFORE my other post, not after, so I wasn't changing the subject, I was answering JCS's question as to why I'm voting him. I have an extreme feeling that both you and JCS are scum.
and YES i was LEAST likely to be investigated by Matjoeman as it was a simple if he came up dead in the morning and I failed to kill his killer then I would have been lynched as scum.
I'll support a mass claim as we need to kill scum today.
I really, really don't think advocating lynching DM was ever a good idea. To be doing it when the town is in this situation just makes you look worse in my eyes.
Considering that someone had just said that he had lied to us because he did not use the claimed ability, and that I was already suspicious of him, I feel it was reasonable.
Furthermore, I eagerly await your votes/foses on RafK, and Carrion Pigeons, as they both voted for Dragyn_Mage.
Also WOLG has a post restricion, 10 posts total during the game, and on top of that he has computer problems limiting him to 2 line posts.
What's the opinion of the town? Do we want claims? I sorta think that at this point it's a pretty good idea.
I guess I won't win best SK again for 2006 with play like this, huh?
Town/Mafia/Other - 14/6/3
Win/Lose/Tie - 11/12/0
Nk/lynched/Survived - 16/4/3
If anyone else has business, raise it now.
Actually, I don't think anyone would have suspected you if MJM hadn't investigated you. And your claim was reasonable. It would have been more believable if a townie was on your list.
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Chances of bad hands (<2 or >4 land):
21: 28.9%
22: 27.5%
23: 26.3%
24: 25.5%
25: 25.1%
26: 25.3%
EBWODP- Matjoe, feel free to check whomever you like, JCS included. Don't let anyone tell you who to investigate.
Alright, I am quite glad we caught scum - I was going to chime in and say that I was really feeling pretty sure he was SK, but obv he claimed it. Also, I am feeling much stronger about CF being scum, but we can get into that tomorrow, eh?
Ah well, it only took me two tries to catch the SK :/ At least I was right this time.
Matjoe, if you want to hit scum, investigate JCS, Raf, or HR. After my re-read, I'm pretty well convinced that they are scum.
Oh, and LJ, your mistake was killing fade. He was the only other real potential lynch canidate, so offing him was signing of your own lynch.
[The Family]
<XylBot> ||| MAFIABOT || sk: LookingforReality (Copycat) |||
<XylBot> ||| MAFIABOT || survivor: matjoeman (Anarchist) |||
<XylBot> ||| MAFIABOT || town: kops (Anarchist) |||
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I don't really have time to do real analysis, so instead, I'm just gonna post my notes! It's all I've got right now, but if I live to see tomorrow, I'll go in depth in any of these that require it. Some of it's kinda vague, but you'll get over it.
JCSuperstar - attacks 4 non-mafia, "mudslinging" at Puzzle(#139), outs Az(#227), votes AS (#292), pushes AS(#328), fingers 4 "townies," 2 without FOSes(#487), supports HR(#500), points at 2 non-mafia, AS and Puzz, for lynch canidates(#531), IPS(#556) attacks HE7, anti-vig(#731), "I'm confused", a little too angry(#813), defends Axel(#927), lots of passive agressive attacks on known townies and probable townies(#958), scum if ever I saw it(#1013), doesn't understand the case he presents, says Matjoe should hold his info(#1037), continues attack on DM(#1046), still attacking DM(#1069), SCUM!!(#1108), SCUUMMMM!!!(#1134)
RafaelK - declares my sarcasm as sarcasm(#105), passive agressive attack on Puzzle(#190), passive agressive attack on Fayul(#242), "is a neutral without a kill the best lynch today?" obv answer, votes AS(#281), has faith in HR, votes Puzzle on sound reasoning(#385), defends and supports HR(#459), bad logic on Az, attacks AS(#463), know too much?(#668), anti-vig(#723), *raises eyebrow*(#738), mailman watcher, mason with armlx, led to the suspicion that armlx was Kevin(#785), suggested going after HE7 to armlx(#839), logic is flawed(#847), adjusting play-style?(#872), pushes armlx lynch(#944), sets up potential WoLG lynch(#1016), keeps pushing DM(#1099), is scum, obv obv obv(#1109), lynch-after-next, content? not really(#1118), constantly putting doubt in pro-town claims(#1129)
Ljustus - "Sorry for lurking/I'm confused" (#122), "I can be pro-town too"(#144), "I have no opinion, but can comply!"(#201), attacks Fayul(#222), awk. speculation on SK(#307), votes HR(#389), passive agressive attack on Axel(#397), SCUM(#557), pro-vigging(#862), lynch the cop!(#906), ignores the obvious(#912), wishy-washy vote armlx(#963), passive agressive attack on Raf(#1080), claims(#1130)
Highroller - Not a Sin City charachter, FOSes Raf for fishing, can go out at night, was in the town hall night 1, didn't see WoLG(?), says Dwight has a tendency to survive, Kev is not nuetral(#363), infamous questions(#371), Az has his own agenda(#377), FOS LJ(#398), Votes I(#410), ever get cold? @ HE7(#428), Vote Az, contridict much?(#435), Votes LJ, attacks Fayul and Matjoe(#449), suddenly votes Puzz(#539), strongly advocates vig(#712), knows who targets him?(#786), conserving lynch targets?(#814), oh, well then(#924), just go with it(#956), hiding info about role(#992), interested in WoLG?(#1011), weak fos on chamber(#1033), serious?(#1049), vote WoLG(#1051), supports DM(#1067)
Axelrod - declares himself town in first post(#41) casts suspicion on HR with shoddy reasoning, bets there is no pattern to roles(#102), passive agressive hypocritical vote set-up on Puzzle(#326), Wishy-washy Puzzle vote(#346), Umm...seriously?(#392), guessing HR's comic(#445), part of the manipulation?(#478), misses the point(#495) WTF?(#497), case on Puzzle based on other's accusations(#530), believes public cop, "no bright ideas"(#616), points at 2 non-mafia(#689), anti-vig(#724), "let's look at HE7's accusers"(#755), possibly knows better?(#796), is it, now?(#809), CP: why are you answering the question?(#826), don't lynch armlx!(#945), anti-vigging, but with a minor concesion(#985), vote fade(#1115)
Draygn Mage - subliminal claim of Miho, the Bodygaurd, clarifies as a watcher/vig variant of bodygaurd, wagons Hawkeye, following DYH(#186), Yup, all locked in(#401), top 3 and why(#448), "I'm confused"(#778), c'mon now...(#803), "I'm confused"(#850), meh...it'll do(#947), OMGUS vote Raf(#1128)
WellofLosGnomes - can only post 7 times a day as someone wants to keep him quiet, "guesses" that Puzzle can vote no-lynch(#169), guesses that whoever is after him killed DYH, smoked his brain away when young, possibly has the AWC of killing (an)other player(s)(#276), supports TMNT claim, one of HR or Raf is scum, hints at TMNT-ness, fingers Puzz, HR, Fayul, and I(#504), had info on Az?(#753), pro-vigging, wishy-washy Vote Az(#859), info of some form?(#959)
Crippled_Fist - inadvertantly hints at being a character, getting a townie feeling(#188), not keeping up with the game(#323), Wishy-washy suspicion on HR(#466), Wishy-washy vote vig(#710, #719), "I'm confused"(#819), attacks Axel, defends armlx(#849), I'm feelin' it(#892), wishy-washy vote on armlx(#917), FOS DM(#1072)
Rhinocero (replacing Einsteinmonkey) - EM:didn't think his character was from Sin City(#45), faked not having a killing role(#66), latches onto Fade's arguement(#183), "I'm surised, but I can be helpful(not really)" posting DYH's posts very soon after his death(#251, #252), Aren't we all locked in?(#400), first to catch Az's vote(#474), sees potential sarcasm(#552), attacks 2 townies, wishy-washy acceptence of pro-vigging, too compliant(#889), I'm feelin' it(#916), bad attack on Axel(#978), Fos DM, Fos HR(#1073)
[The Family]
7 LJustus-Highroller, Rafaelk, Carrion Pigeons, JCsuperstar, Matjoeman, Chamber, LJustus
2 Crippled_Fist-Crippled_Fist, Cropcircles
1 Draygn_Mage- WoLG
4 Not Voting: Rhinocero, Aurorasparrow, Axelrod, Draygn_Mage
8 to lynch.
[The Family]
8 LJustus-Highroller, Rafaelk, Carrion Pigeons, JCsuperstar, Matjoeman, Chamber, LJustus, Cropcircles
1 Crippled_Fist-Crippled_Fist
1 Draygn_Mage- WoLG
4 Not Voting: Rhinocero, Aurorasparrow, Axelrod, Draygn_Mage
8 to lynch.
***
Matjoeman steps to the front of the crowd. "He's not one of us. I don't know if he's one of them, but he's not one of us."
Murmurs ripple through the crowd. Angry mutters begin to arise. The argument goes back and forth all day. LJustus isn't the only one under suspicion. But when he was caught lying, it was the last straw. It was time to put him down.
You gather around him, unholstering your weapons. LJustus just turns and smiles. There's a crazy calm in his eyes. He's cool, collected, fearless.
"It's your game, boys. I'm ready to face what I have to face. I'm sick of running."
With a single swift motion, his hand darts into his jacket. You reach for your own weapon, but he's fast, faster than any of you. A pro. Everything slows down. Every heartbeat seems to last an eternity. You see the barrel of his gun coming out of his coat. Black and cold and smooth.
It rises in a blur of motion. Up, up, up, towards Matjoeman's head. Your arm is rising too, but it feels like it's stuck in jello compared to his. He's just too fast. His finger is on the trigger. He starts to squeeze. You draw a bead on his head, right between his eyes.
Gunshots ring out, all across the room. Too slow. He beat you to it.
A bullet through his brain. His own brain. Clean, fast, smooth. The rest of the bullets hit home, and his body shudders from the impact, but he was already gone. What's left of him falls to the floor and collapses in a bloody mess. But that cool smile is still on his face, mocking you. And a strangely peaceful look in his eyes.
Matjoeman moves to his side, and checks him over. A bullet-proof vest, battered by heavy service. A gun, with a clip holding only three bullets. And last of all, a note, from someone named Frank. Some kind of list.
Probably nothing important. You toss it aside.
A solemn hush falls over the group, as you depart for the night. You can all feel it.
The end is coming soon.
***
LJustus, Neutral Hitman, aka "The Salesman", is dead.
Living 13/23:
1. JCSuperstar
2. RafaelK
3. Cropcircles
4. Carrion Pigeons
5. Aurorasparrow
6. Highroller
7. Axelrod
8. Draygn Mage
9. WellofLost Gnomes
10. Crippled_Fist
11. Matjoeman
12. Chamber
13. Rhinocero (replacing Einsteinmonkey)
Dead:
1. DYH-Townie Lunatic/Roleblocker/Investigator. Slashed to ribbons on Day One.
2. Kenji-Townie Paranoid. Died of a sudden heart attack day one. (Modkill)
3. Puzzle- Neutral Pacifist. Lynched by the town day one.
4. Bateleur-Townie, the Doctor's Daugher. Throat slashed night two.
5. Hawkeye7-Townie Bodyguard. Sliced and diced by ninja stars day 2.
6. Armlx-Townie Mailman. Lynched by the town day 2.
7. Fayul- Townie, Overzealous Vigilante. Turned into a pez dispenser, night 3.
8. Sorryguy-Townie, Neutral Mason. Throat crushed night 3.
9. Fadeblue-Mafia, False Cop, Mafia Leader. Poisoned day 3.
10. LJustus, Neutral Hitman, aka "The Salesman", lynched day 3.
MIA:
1. Dwight McCarthy-Townie Mod Persona. Chased out of town, shot, and possibly killed, day 2
Night will end Friday, January 27th at 2:00 P.M. EST, or sooner.
It reads:
Basin City Times
Op-Ed
Mafia: Have Their Identities Been Revealed?
1. JCSuperstar
2. RafaelK
3. Cropcircles
4. Carrion Pigeons
5. Aurorasparrow
6. Highroller
7. Axelrod
8. Draygn Mage
9. WellofLost Gnomes
10. Crippled_Fist
11. Matjoeman
12. Chamber
13. Rhinocero (replacing Einsteinmonkey)
To those locked in the Town Hall, this list should appear very familiar. It is the list of those still alive as of Day Three. The third day of this quarantine ended with LJustus, who was revealed to be a hitman known in many circles as “The Salesman”. After LJustus’ suicide, a note was found:
The most immediate question is who is Frank? Frank Miller maybe? Don't think there was a Frank in Sin City, unless it was an obscure minor character. Perhaps it was Frank, the demon bunny from Donnie Darko.
Who Frank is, however, is less important than the note itself.
First of all, from our list of survivors, let us cross off the people we know are not mafia. Matjoeman is the most in the clear out of anyone right now. I think we all believe he is the inspector. From this, we can also clear Aurorasparrow, who was cleared by Matjoeman.
This reporter thinks it’s also very safe to clear carrion_pigeons. Carrion claimed roleblocker, roleblocked fadeblue, and began the case that lead to fadeblue’s death. When the mafia were very close to winning, to make a push against a mafia leader would be a very stupid thing for a mafia to do. Thus, carrion is also cleared.
This reporter knows, without doubt, that Highroller is also cleared. Thus, we are left with:
1. JCSuperstar
2. RafaelK
3. Cropcircles
7. Axelrod
8. Draygn Mage
9. WellofLost Gnomes
10. Crippled_Fist
12. Chamber
13. Rhinocero (replacing Einsteinmonkey)
Now, let us readdress LJustus:
What we KNOW for certain is that LJustus had a list and three bullets. He claimed a killer that had a list with names on it, and he did have a list. He claimed a killer who only had three bullets, and he only had three bullets on him.
Given that he was not working with the mafia, I don’t see his motivation for lying about the names that were on it. Since LJustus was willing to take a risk outing he was a killing role, I’m thinking it’s probably unlikely that he would try to actively steer the town away from lynching the mafia, his one hope of winning.
If LJustus was telling the truth, and if the note had the names Wallenquist, Kevin, and Manute on it, then something very interesting happens.
There are twenty-three people in this game, That leaves room for four or five anti-town roles. Assume four mafia plus LJustus. If there are four mafia, then it is not unreasonable three of these mafia are named Wallenquist, Kevin, and Manute, with fadeblue in addition. I find this interesting, since fadeblue turned out to be a false cop.
There was a false cop in the Sin City movie. His name was Bob, a partner to Hartigan, who sold him out to the Roarkes. The reason I think fadeblue was Bob is because he turned out to be the mafia leader. Now, tell me, why would a false cop be a mafia leader? It doesn’t make sense on any level, UNLESS that false cop, by virtue of being a false cop, got some kind of immunity to inspections, thereby being a godfather role even though a false cop is not in a position of true power.
This makes me believe all the more that the mafia are all characters from Sin City.
If this is true, then we can accomplish some things. First off, it makes me seriously doubt Draygn_Mage is mafia. I think there’s enough evidence that Miho is in the game. Given that he gave subtle hints at being Miho before the Pez dispenser finding, and that he has yet to be counterclaimed, we can say that D_M is Miho. And it is reasonable to believe Miho is town based on the newfound information.
RafaelK is also most likely not mafia. RafaelK guessed what comic Highroller was from instantly, without any kind of a clue. For this reason, RafaelK’s claim that he is Casey Jones is likely to be true. Thus, if the mafia are characters from Sin City, RafaelK cannot be mafia.
This leaves us with:
JCSuperstar
CropCircles
Axelrod
WoLG
Crippled_Fist
Rhinocero
The mafia must be among these six.
Detective Hartigan should investigate someone from this list. It is my personal opinion that he should investigate CropCircles, as I have been in conflict as to whether or not CropCircles is mafia the entire game.
It reads:
Hello everyone!
This is Dark Horse, publisher of the Sin City comic. Since I publish this whole thing, I get to insert my own editorial comments whenever I want (actually just once each night.)
To be honest, I haven't been sure how to best use my role. I don't receive any extra information, so really this is equivalent to making one anonymous post per day. At first I tried to be flavorful, but I don't really think that helps the town. So I'll just say what I'm thinking.
I'm town (if I want the comic to sell, the bad guys need to get it in the end.) So I imagine that whoever is writing the "Basin City News" is probably anti-town. I'm not sure what it means that the newspaper "cleared" Highroller, but I wouldn't automatically trust it. Could be WIFOM though.
Reading through the article, I think it actually makes a pretty good case for the remaining mafia being Sin City roles. The reasons I have not to trust it are (1) the source, and (2) that Az wouldn't want to have the game broken by a mass claim. But if we believe the mafia are all Sin City scum, maybe we should do that claim and find out.
Your friend,
Dark Horse
To top it off, the roof is leaking like a sieve. Rainwater mixes with dirt from the ceiling and falls on your heads like an unholy baptism of filth. Water starts to accumulate on the floor, and the town hall is taking on the appearance of a sinking ship. None of it is helping your mood.
Nevertheless, there can be no quarter in this fight. You grit your teeth, and go through the daily ritual of counting heads.
Only twelve of you. Someone else is missing.
You search the building until you arrive at Cropcircles' door. What's left of it, anyways. You step inside. All throughout the room, there are candles and sticks of incense burning softly. A small, ornate sitting cushion on the floor, next to a short table. A few books: "Summoning the Dead, For Dummies", "How to Lie Convincingly and Get Paid for it-My Journey as a Psychic", and a copy of the movie "Ghost".
Cropcircles himself is lying in a pool of blood, his throat ripped open by two horizontal claw marks, and a shuriken planted between his eyes. Looks like his psychic powers didn't do him much good.
You return to the town hall, wiping blackened raindrops from your face. This could be your last day alive, for all you know. Better make it a good one.
Living 12/23:
1. JCSuperstar
2. RafaelK
3. Carrion Pigeons
4. Aurorasparrow
5. Highroller
6. Axelrod
7. Draygn Mage
8. WellofLost Gnomes
9. Crippled_Fist
10. Matjoeman
11. Chamber
12. Rhinocero (replacing Einsteinmonkey)
Dead:
1. DYH-Townie Lunatic/Roleblocker/Investigator. Slashed to ribbons on day 1.
2. Kenji-Townie Paranoid. Died of a sudden heart attack day 1. (Modkill)
3. Puzzle- Neutral Pacifist. Lynched by the town day 1.
4. Bateleur-Townie, the Doctor's Daugher. Throat slashed night 2.
5. Hawkeye7-Townie Bodyguard. Sliced and diced by ninja stars day 2.
6. Armlx-Townie Mailman. Lynched by the town day 2.
7. Fayul- Townie, Overzealous Vigilante. Turned into a pez dispenser, night 3.
8. Sorryguy-Townie, Neutral Mason. Throat crushed night 3.
9. Fadeblue-Mafia, False Cop, Mafia Leader. Poisoned day 3.
10. LJustus, Neutral Hitman, aka "The Salesman", lynched day 3.
11. Cropcircles, Townie Psychic. Throat slit night 4.
MIA:
1. Dwight McCarthy-Townie Mod Persona. Chased out of town, shot, and possibly killed, day 2
***
With 12 alive, it is now 7 to lynch.
What? Dead? Aww, screw you guys, I'm going home.
[The Family]
It appears this Dark Horse is still in the game, as opposed to Az (even though it may well still be Azrael, considering how this game's been going). Personally, I think whoever Dark Horse is should, at this point, reveal his identity. We no longer have any time for mind games. That, and I'm pretty darn positive.
Personally, I think the mafia are among these five:
JCSuperstar
Axelrod
WoLG
Crippled_Fist
Rhinocero
with perhaps the most likely being Crippled_Fist, but I await Matjoeman's inspection before proceeding further.
Town/Mafia/Other - 14/6/3
Win/Lose/Tie - 11/12/0
Nk/lynched/Survived - 16/4/3
I think that's pretty obvious at this point.
In any event "Dark Horse" needs to come out now, I think. (Surprise, it's not me).
And let's hope MatJoe was paying attention.
That's because it is.
While waiting for MJM, I don't mind kicking the day off with MY results. Since the person I watched hasn't copped to anything unusual despite posting already today.
Being obsessive pays off sometimes. I watched draygn, duh.
And our bodyguard got no night PM from the mod! HE DID NOTHING!
Care to dispute that, draygn?
Yeah dm whatever happened to targeting me, you could've killed mr. pointless vote forcer.
So he wasn't lying?
I'm not dark horse (obv.).
<XylBot> ||| MAFIABOT || sk: LookingforReality (Copycat) |||
<XylBot> ||| MAFIABOT || survivor: matjoeman (Anarchist) |||
<XylBot> ||| MAFIABOT || town: kops (Anarchist) |||
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Second of all, what the heck, D_M? You'd better have a good explanation. We kind of needed that investigation.
Third of all, was LJustus lying or not? I mean, obviously he lied at least twice, but which times? It's extremely strange to me that he would just volunteer to be lynched like that, at any point.
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Two - LJustus was obviously a liarpants. The question is, was he the daykiller? Almost certainly not. Which means we've still got two kills coming down our pants. Hopefully crossfire will occur again..
Three - should we look again at CropCircle's list of suspects? JCSuperstar, RafK and Highroller top it.
Four - I am not Dark Horse. Although it makes flavorful sense - we are literally in a comic.
Editting my previous statement:
Personally, I think the mafia are among these six:
JCSuperstar
Axelrod
WoLG
Crippled_Fist
Rhinocero
Draygn_Mage
Damn...
Then who are you?
Uh, maybe I misread but I was pretty sure Miho/DM's ability can only work if the person is killed. And then (s)he has the option of taking vengeance. So he might not get any reply message if MJM isn't killed.
I really think we shouldn't lynch DM when Miho is so obviously townie (flavor-wise) and we cant afford to waste anymore kills. Maybe later, but not now.
vote Rhino.
Oh.. and that last kill was REALLY, REALLY Shredder-like. We may end up overthinking that fact, however.
4th place at CCC&G Pro Tour
Chances of bad hands (<2 or >4 land):
21: 28.9%
22: 27.5%
23: 26.3%
24: 25.5%
25: 25.1%
26: 25.3%
@AS: So why are you voting me here? Still for the same reasons as all the way back in 1142? Please elaborate.
4th place at CCC&G Pro Tour
Chances of bad hands (<2 or >4 land):
21: 28.9%
22: 27.5%
23: 26.3%
24: 25.5%
25: 25.1%
26: 25.3%
Not dark horse.
Oh, 2 more things.
I am not Dark Horse
vote JCSuperstar
According to Raf. you received no PM last night. That's what he does, right? Carry the PMs? So one of you is lying.
And Dark Horse, where are you?
EBWODP- I had to PM Azrael and ask if he forgot about me. Then I got my PM telling me what happened. I thought it was one of our masons that did the forced vote beatings...
If you were scum, it would have made sense for you to target Fayul when you did. I guess if you were scum, it would make sense to try to fake your way through your "ability" by not killing him, but having him roleblocked. It seems like a desperation move, but what else have you got at this point? I'm not falling for it.
Vote Draygn_Mage.
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I'm confused. If MJM was roleblocked, tortured, and forced to vote for Cropcircles, then why weren't you informed of this?
Can you explain why you think I'm the best lynch for today?
At the end of yesterday I was the LEAST likely person to be investigated by MJM. It makes no sense for me to roleblock him. And why is no one willing to take a look at the vote-forcing beatings???
SOMEBODY CLAIMED THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BEATINGS ON HAWKEYE AND NOW OUR COP IS GETTING BEATEN????
I'll go back and look at yesterday since no one else is willing to do so apparently.
My ability kicks in for successful targetings only.
I was told previously if the person I watched was not targetted at all during the night.
Last night I was specifically told (via PM from Azrael) that I got no results whatsoever.
This was *after* the morning scene had been posted and I PM'd Azrael to see what happened (I thought he forgot about me).
I am going to try and paraphrase my ability as best I can. Near as I can figure if I was a magic card my ability would read:
Miho
Enchantment- Aura
If creature being enchanted by Miho is is the target of a resolved ability, you may have Miho destroy target permanent that targetted the creature enchanted by Miho.
I think that is a successful and totally legal paraphrasing of my role/ability.
Last night I was basically told that my ability fizzled, like Matjoeman was an illegal target for me or something. I can only attribute that to 1 of two things. I was countered (roleblocked) or Matjoe has protection from my ability (which I find retarded and not at all likely).
Did you realize that if we still have a daykiller running around, to which I see no reason why we wouldn't, not killing a mafia today will likely result in us losing the game?
carrion_pigeons: Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are the roleblocker right? At least you claimed to have roleblocked fadeblue. Did you roleblock Draygn_Mage as well?
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I support a mass name claim at this point, though we will almsot definetly need to move on to ability claims.
Finally, if it isn't obvious, I'm not dark horse.
Town/Mafia/Other - 14/6/3
Win/Lose/Tie - 11/12/0
Nk/lynched/Survived - 16/4/3
In other words, you didn't get a PM last night (only after day had started) so my result was absolutely correct. Your honesty, however, is appreciated. I can't decide whether that makes you more townie or just a mafia who realises that calling me a liar might get me lynched today but would get you lynched tomorrow for sure. Hmph.
The issue here is more or less this- how many roleblocks do we believe actually occurred last night? We now have three claimed (mystery "fizzled" roleblock on DM, the vote/unvote-forcer roleblock on matjoe, and cp's roleblock on WOLG). This is day 4. Where has this stuff been hiding? matjoe wasn't blocked yesterday, then two unidentified blocks show up today?
For that matter, what the heck has happened to the vote-forcer who used chamber and SG to force Azrael's vote? I suppose it could have been fadeblue, or maybe it doesn't work anymore once SG died.
Still, there's a lot of unidentified powers floating around and comparatively few people for them to belong to.
However, also:
Least likely? You? Bullpucky.
And also, did someone accuse you of being the scum roleblocker? Why are you straw-manning against an argument that you're the scum roleblocker?
And your argument is blatantly pointless even if you were the least likely and even if you were accused of being the scum role-blocker (since if you were scum you might block MJM to prevent him investigating another scum).
OMG! I'll change the subject and get righteous! Look, our cop was targeted by the same ability that targeted Hawkeye! I'll find out the truth, just wait!
I just got over that feeling you might actually be townie pretty quickly. Scummy post or what? vote draygn_mage, once more with feeling.
And for the triple-
FOS JCSuperstar, because he really has been jumping around like a frog on a hot log and I'm wondering if the thing between DM and him might be a distancing tactic. DM's hunch voting is a nice way to vote for someone without actually persuading anyone else to go along with the wagon.
also, I dont believe it but we must always be aware of the possibility that Raf is mafia and set up armlx. Id really rather go after someone with no pro-town evidence, however.
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21: 28.9%
22: 27.5%
23: 26.3%
24: 25.5%
25: 25.1%
26: 25.3%
2. RafaelK
5. Aurorasparrow
9. WellofLost Gnomes
10. Crippled_Fist
I highly doubt anyone will admit to being Dark Horse at this point. I think it's pretty clear that he/she is mafia.
And we need to mass claim. We are dealing with the very realistic possibility that there is no tomorrow.
Since the person who gets the dead people to talk is himself dead, I'll spill everything:
I'm April O'Neill. Reporter. Each night I can write a news article. In addition, I know the identity of any person who targets me with an ability, but I only get the name, not the ability. The only person who has the entire game, unfortunately, is RafaelK during the first night. That's kind of the reason I typed that I was a confirmed town by inspection, hoping that the mafia would target me, and CropCircles would in turn work his mojo.
I can confirm RafaelK's claim, because all he did was hover outside my door that night. So he is a watching role. Azrael didn't tell me whether or not he was town, but I do believe he is.
and YES i was LEAST likely to be investigated by Matjoeman as it was a simple if he came up dead in the morning and I failed to kill his killer then I would have been lynched as scum.
I'll support a mass claim as we need to kill scum today.
Furthermore, I eagerly await your votes/foses on RafK, and Carrion Pigeons, as they both voted for Dragyn_Mage.
Also WOLG has a post restricion, 10 posts total during the game, and on top of that he has computer problems limiting him to 2 line posts.
What's the opinion of the town? Do we want claims? I sorta think that at this point it's a pretty good idea.
Why is this?
He has a post restriction.
I'm at odds as to who to lynch. At this point I feel like vote: JCSuperstar, I feel pretty confident in that. Besides the odds are in our favor.
<XylBot> ||| MAFIABOT || sk: LookingforReality (Copycat) |||
<XylBot> ||| MAFIABOT || survivor: matjoeman (Anarchist) |||
<XylBot> ||| MAFIABOT || town: kops (Anarchist) |||
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