And now observe as DM's vote on Carrion mysteriously moves over to me....
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
If anyone else has any intention to vote for me, I'd ask for two things. 1) wait for everyone to post today, and 2) Say so. I want an opportunity to find out if there's anything I can do to defend myself.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
@Rhino: you think it's easy to win with this role?
From a theory standpoint, just as easy as mafia. if you're essentially unkillable nights, and just about everybody's win condition is compatible with yours, it doesn't seem too hard. of course, not having played it I wouldn't know for sure.
@CP- Yes, when I don't receive a PM for my night action, I PM the mod to ask about it. All three days he has said that I got no results whatsoever.
@Axelrod- I don't plan to move my vote, but if we're still playing tomorrow I would expect the town to look at you pretty thoroughly.
@AS- I too would like a claim now. You are not going to go the ENTIRE game without telling anyone anything about your role.
NO ONE FINISH HIM UNTIL RAF SHOWS UP.
@Raf- let us know what you got last night. You may be able to shed some light in the last couple of dark places. My *suggestion* for tonight is to watch AS or Rhino. We know that Axelrod will activate whatever ability he has (be it a protect or a night kill) so we can only narrow down who ELSE is active at night. I'll watch your back tonight as I think we've finally got the Mafia Roleblocker and I'll take care of anyone who targets you. The scum's only safe play is to kill AS, Rhino, or Me. If I'm dead come morning, then it will have to be your result/gut instinct that guides you tomorrow. If Rhino is dead, we have to decide between Axel or AS (depending on AS's claim). If AS is dead we have to choose between Axel or Rhino. If I have my ability back either you live or the town wins tonight.
I didn't get a PM last night. First thing I thought was that the thing which has been doing DM did me. I PM'd Az, and he hasn't responded as of yet, although he's clearly been on since I sent the message. Which is frankly, very irritating.
As it happened, I was watching cp based on Axelrod's theory of earlier (whether dm is cp's partner, or axelrod is, I'm not sure yet. DM makes more sense from the point of view of why cp would have done for fade, but it could be that cp didn't think fade would be lynched. remember, fade died via daykill, not because the bandwagon reached a conclusion)
These painful killings are quite Manute like, coupled with Axelrod's case of yesterday I figured cp might well be making them. I thought there was a chance he might do the kill, be seen by me doing a night action, then not claim to have roleblocked anyone. Even if I'd got a PM, so much for that...
Please don't finish either him or Axelrod until I get to the bottom of whether I was roleblocked or whether Azrael is being forgetful or something.
Hey, CP, using your amazing logical skills, please tell us who is the role that ties people up and role-blocks them, forcing them to vote someone the next morning?
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Azrael informs me my lack of PM was an oversight, so no block. cp did of course receive mail last night.
Anyway, I looked back over the night actions and found something Axelrod managed to fail to mention when he did his list.
Post 1277:
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No, I did not roleblock D_M. I roleblocked WoLG.
And we now know WoLG was Shredder.
Post 1252, the kill from the night cp allegedly blocked WoLG:
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Cropcircles himself is lying in a pool of blood, his throat ripped open by two horizontal claw marks, and a shuriken planted between his eyes. Looks like his psychic powers didn't do him much good.
Shredder was blocked that night, huh?
In the morning, if the game doesn't end with this lynch, we can work out who cp's partner is. Hammer time.
Well, I'm not putting complete faith in the "Death" descriptions this game as indicators of what role did what deed, but anyway, that's certainly the right call.
DM is "pledging" to protect you tonight, which is what he should be doing as a townie, but I'm not at all convinced you'll live, since he is mafia and since you appear to have more sense than Aurorasparrow. But I guess we'll see.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Here is the plan for tonight (Hopefully you all listen and do as I request).
AS & Rhino- don't do anything.
Raf- watch one of them (your choice)
Axel- go ahead and hide
D_M- will watch raf.
Tomorrow, AS and Rhino tell whether or not they listened to me.
Raf will reveal who he watched and if they were lying.
I'll probably be dead, so it won't much matter.
The town makes up their mind quickly today. Carrion Pigeons stood in the midst of the townies, calmly and politely explaining why he couldn't actually be the killer in question, while the mob ignored his explanation. Finally, Rafaelk lost his patience. He stepped up behind him, put a gun to his back, and pulled the trigger.
The bullet ripped into his back, and Carrion Pigeons grunted. And that was all. He looked slightly annoyed, like a bull that had been pinched, but he barely seemed to feel the pain. Rafaelk blanched slightly, as he whipped around and backhanded the weapon out of his hands.
The rest of the town opened fire, and he began to shudder slightly from the impact of the blows. He absorbed bullets like a sponge, and staggered around after each of you like a hulking giant. He moved quickly for a man the size of a gorilla, but the impacts of the bullets was knocking him off balance, if nothing else.
As the barrage continued relentlessly, even Carrion Pigeons' massive endurance began to fail. He stumbled to his knees, still struggling to regain his feet, to fight. But he was outnumbered, and outgunned. He pulled a wicked-looking throwing knife from his jacket, and drew it back in preparation for a throw, but Draygn_Mage knocked it from his hand, and Axelrod put a bullet in the back of his head to finish him. Several more bullets to the head were required, but eventually he stopped moving. You decided to set him on fire, for good measure, which seemed to produce the desired result.
But before you ignited him, someone remembered to search his belongings for anything of use. And as it happens, you managed to find yet another letter:
M., congratulations on the excellent work you performed in the projects last week. Your skill is genuinely commendable. Rest assured that you will be justly rewarded, in good time. But do not let your ambitions overcome your better judgment. I have heard whispers of struggle and discontent within your cell, distractions that could prove fatal to your upcoming mission. If I find that petty power struggles are the undoing of your group, rest assured that I will track down all those responsible, and deal with them. Of course, I am sure that won't be necessary.
Be sure to enjoy your trip to Old Town. -WQ
Another day, another dead mafia. Your hopes rise. Perhaps not all is as bleak as you feared. Only time will tell, you remind yourself, as you head back to your rooms. This is no time to be letting down your guard, not until you're sure you're safe.
Dead: 1. DYH-Townie Lunatic/Roleblocker/Investigator. Slashed to ribbons on day 1.
2. Kenji-Townie Paranoid. Died of a sudden heart attack day 1. (Modkill)
3. Puzzle- Neutral Pacifist. Lynched by the town day 1.
4. Bateleur-Townie, the Doctor's Daugher. Throat slashed night 2.
5. Hawkeye7-Townie Bodyguard. Sliced and diced by ninja stars day 2.
6. Armlx-Townie Mailman. Lynched by the town day 2.
7. Fayul- Townie, Overzealous Vigilante. Turned into a pez dispenser, night 3.
8. Sorryguy-Townie, Neutral Mason. Throat crushed night 3.
9. Fadeblue-Mafia, False Cop, Mafia Leader. Poisoned day 3. 10. LJustus, Neutral Hitman, aka "The Salesman", lynched day 3. 11. Cropcircles, Townie Psychic. Throat slit night 4. 12. Matjoeman, Townie, Hartigan, the Last Honest Cop. Cut to ribbons day 4. 13. WellofLostGnomes, Shredder, Mafia Lurker. Lynched Day 4. 14. Chamber, Townie, Neutral Mason. Stabbed in the gut, night 5. 15. JCSuperstar, Mafia Reporter, Strangled Day 5. 16. Crippled_Fist, Kevin, the Serial Killer, Lynched Day 5. 17. Highroller, April O'Neill, Townie Reporter. Tied up and bled to death, night 6. 18. Manute, Mafia Torturer. Lynched Day 6.
MIA:
1. Dwight McCarthy-Townie Mod Persona. Chased out of town, shot, and possibly killed, day 2.
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Night 7 has begun.
Deadline is set for three days' time, Wednesday the 15th, 2:00 PM EST.
Only a few short hours after the burning of Carrion Pigeons, a piercing scream shatters the stillness of the night. The four people left alive in the town hall come running.
Draygn_Mage lies on the floor, a bullet-hole bored straight through her doll's face, her katana half-way drawn at her side. You look at one another suspiciously. It seems your hopes that the nightmare was over were premature.
Now, there are only four of you left. And the mafia is still lurking among you, killing at will. With so few of you left alive, the conflict is quickly headed for its ultimate conclusion. None of you are in the mood to sleep. The final conflict is too close, too much is at stake, and adrenaline is coursing through your system. It is time to end it.
You take a deep breath, and the last living survivors make their way to the conference hall, still shrouded in darkness, and only feebly lit by ancient incandescent bulbs, and the rusty chandelier from which Armlx was hung, on the second day of the conflict. It seems like almost a life-time ago. So much has happened, so many lives have been snuffed out, forever. Could this be the last day? Could everything, all the lives that were sacrificed, come down to the decision that you make here tonight? You are about to find out.
Dead: 1. DYH-Townie Lunatic/Roleblocker/Investigator. Slashed to ribbons on day 1.
2. Kenji-Townie Paranoid. Died of a sudden heart attack day 1. (Modkill)
3. Puzzle- Neutral Pacifist. Lynched by the town day 1.
4. Bateleur-Townie, the Doctor's Daugher. Throat slashed night 2.
5. Hawkeye7-Townie Bodyguard. Sliced and diced by ninja stars day 2.
6. Armlx-Townie Mailman. Lynched by the town day 2.
7. Fayul- Townie, Overzealous Vigilante. Turned into a pez dispenser, night 3.
8. Sorryguy-Townie, Neutral Mason. Throat crushed night 3.
9. Fadeblue-Mafia, False Cop, Mafia Leader. Poisoned day 3. 10. LJustus, Neutral Hitman, aka "The Salesman", lynched day 3. 11. Cropcircles, Townie Psychic. Throat slit night 4. 12. Matjoeman, Townie, Hartigan, the Last Honest Cop. Cut to ribbons day 4. 13. WellofLostGnomes, Shredder, Mafia Lurker. Lynched Day 4. 14. Chamber, Townie, Neutral Mason. Stabbed in the gut, night 5. 15. JCSuperstar, Mafia Reporter, Strangled Day 5. 16. Crippled_Fist, Kevin, the Serial Killer, Lynched Day 5. 17. Highroller, April O'Neill, Townie Reporter. Tied up and bled to death, night 6. 18. Manute, Mafia Torturer. Lynched Day 6. 19. Draygn_Mage, Miho, Townie Avenger. Shot in the head night 7.
MIA:
1. Dwight McCarthy-Townie Mod Persona. Chased out of town, shot, and possibly killed, day 2.
Time to regroup. I'm fairly sure this doesn't make any sense.
Aurorasparrow needs to claim something. There's absolutely no reason not to.
Raf. perhaps you caught lightning in a bottle?
And DM, what the hell were you thinking?
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
So DM was town, huh? I'm glad he was the kill; it spares me making a huge mistake by going after him today, which I probably would have done if AS or Rhino had been killed.
This is an excellent time for anyone who did a night action last night to admit to it, because as it happens I wasn't watching DM. I was watching one of you.
I also agree with Axelrod that we should have a claim from aurorasparrow today. This is in all likelihood, the last day. A mislynch and the last nightkill tonight will result in 1 mafia vs 1 other = end. Full information is our best chance.
And as a general warning, remember that Rhino may have a vote-force left and would thus be able to plonk down two votes on someone. Don't vote AT ALL until you're sure.
Additional- oh, and also remember that Axelrod even IF he's truthful has every reason to just put down a finishing vote whenever the opportunity arises.
So yeah. This is a very delicate voting situation.
I took no night actions and received no night PMs.
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And as a general warning, remember that Rhino may have a vote-force left and would thus be able to plonk down two votes on someone. Don't vote AT ALL until you're sure.
I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this before, but for purposes of disclosure, when Chamber went away, so did my ability (since it went through him and SG, and they're gone). So yeah.
I also agree that Aurorasparrow NEEDS to claim before the day is through. We don't have sufficient time left to avoid it, and we should avoid any action at all until that is done.
As it happens, I did not hide, specifically in the hope that Raf. might decide to watch me, as I could not really fathom a reason why the mafia would try to kill me, even if I was right about DM. Which I wasn't.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
Wow. If DM's been telling the truth this whole time...
He was role-blocked on Nights 4-6. Even though MatJoe was also blocked Night 4, and CP appears to have done the kill Night 6. Meaning that this role is different from CP's role.
The "role-block" caused Az to fail to send DM a confirmation PM each night? So that it appeared to Raf. (Night 4) that DM got No Mod PM.
The mafia didn't kill MatJoe Night 4, even though DM was "blocked." Instead, they blocked MatJoe too?
The mafia really did get no kill on Night 3.
This mystery Role-blocker hasn't hit anyone else the whole game?
How do the mafia have 2 role-blockers?
Shoot. I've more or less been assuming that Raf. didn't see Aurorasparrow do anything Night 2 when he "watched" him. If that's not right, I don't know what to think.
Don't have a lot of time right now. We really need to hear Aurorasparrow.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I also find it slightly concerning that Aurorasparrow was on today, and apparently chose not to comment about the situation.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
At this point, I'll note I didn't see Aurorasparrow do anything on the second night.
I'm not yet saying what I did or didn't see last night, pending AS showing up to comment today.
The point that both matjoe and DM were apparently blocked at once is well-taken, although potentially DM was right with his guess that he lost his ability when he killed an innocent. The roleblock on matjoe was like the roleblocks on Hawkeye, it had the forced vote-unvote bit and a torture flavour. DM apparently got no flavour and no vote-unvote. Ultimately I suspect that's what was going on. If the mafia really had two roleblocks, why did matjoe go unblocked and get to make an inspection on the night where cp and fadeblue set up that "I roleblocked a mafia!" thing?
As for where the mafia kill went on the night cp claimed to have blocked fade, I'd like to hear from AS before speculating on that.
I've been thinking hard, and I think the best way is for me to be completely straight-up.
I'm Becky aka Alexis Bledel aka the girl who ratted out Old Town. I'm an unturned traitor.
If you doubt that I'm still a townie, I'd like to point out how many mafia I've significantly contributed to outing and how many townies I've defended. I also hope RafK notes I did nothing last night (or, incidentally, any night ever).
I know the missing kill looks suspicious. I have no idea where it went.
MafiaRole
This is the most common role on the Mafia side that isn't actually in the Mafia family. There are several variations of this role.
In small games, the Traitor most commonly knows who is in the Mafia, but the Mafia do not know who the Traitor is. The Traitor works, through his or her Vote, to keep the Mafia from getting Lynched.
Another variation is the Mafia Cop. This version does not know who is in the Mafia, but can investigate once each Night, like a normal Cop, to help the Mafia in lynching. The original Mafia Cop was in the Mafia itself, but this role was simply a more powerful Mafia member, rather than a separate role. In a third variation, sometimes used in conjunction with the second, the Mafia can choose at any time in the game to recruit their Traitor. Before this time, the Traitor appears innocent to Cops, and/or has investigative abilities. Once recruited, the Traitor becomes a normal Mafia member.
In recent games, this role is more commonly known as a Mafia Spy.
So it appears to me Aurorasparrow is referencing a role like this. I seem to recall (or maybe this is just another variant), the mafia must "skip" their night-kill in order to recruit said Traitor.
Do we believe in a 5 man mafia plus a Traitor, plus the possibility of Chamber or SorryGuy flipping (plus my role, though that's a self-serving argument).
I'm also not especially impressed with his "look how townie I've been acting defense."
But I take it, Raf. that you didn't see anyone doing anything last night. That would probably be fairly good info that said person was not the last mafia.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I also hope RafK notes I did nothing last night (or, incidentally, any night ever).
I believe he is claiming he did nothing here.
Which means all of us have claimed to do nothing. I realize you haven't said who you watched, I'm saying whoever it was, assuming they didn't get a Mod PM, is probably not the last mafia. So you could tell us who to remove that particular person from the equation.
If the person you saw did get a Mod PM, they are lying now.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
If you don't get it, we're waiting for you to say what the hell you meant by unturned traitor. And to actually say one way or the other what you did last night.
And while we're at it, to say why you find the missing kill suspicious (I think it is, but I want to know your take on it), and to say what you mean about you outing scum given that you weren't in on the lynch of either of the two mafia we actually lynched.
AS, we are past the point where you get to be close-mouthed. We need everyone's opinions and full information on everyone to make the best decision we can. I acknowledge I'm saying this while I'm holding back on the result of my ability, but my ability has been confirmed several times over (unless you're saying you did get a mod PM on the second night and that I'm lying?). You haven't said what it is you do. Ever. That was fine while we had other scum candidates and it was worthwhile keeping the mafia guessing about what you do at night. It has now stopped being worthwhile.
I could very easily come up with a theory that you were recruited on the no-kill night after matjoe investigated you, or alternately that Becky is simply inspection-immune (what with being played by the same actress as Rory Gilmore- we've already seen from Frodo/Kevin that there's crossover here). Dwight and Miho were town. Manute was scum. Why's Becky town?
If you ARE town, do not give us reason to go further down that road. It would royally suck to mess this up at the last moment and lynch you, then find you were indeed a townie who just refused to co-operate.
If you don't get it, we're waiting for you to say what the hell you meant by unturned traitor. And to actually say one way or the other what you did last night.
Just wanted to point out that AS has stated pretty unequivocally that he did nothing last night.
I am pretty unswayed towards any one side right now, and I think at this point I'm going to need some pretty serious evidence before I commit to any side. Don't rush, guys - we miss here and we pretty much lose. With the information we have now I would be inclined to think Aurora is probably mafia, but I definitely await more info.
Just wanted to point out that AS has stated pretty unequivocally that he did nothing last night.
Has not.
Entirety of the posts by AS today-
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I've been thinking hard, and I think the best way is for me to be completely straight-up.
I'm Becky aka Alexis Bledel aka the girl who ratted out Old Town. I'm an unturned traitor.
If you doubt that I'm still a townie, I'd like to point out how many mafia I've significantly contributed to outing and how many townies I've defended. I also hope RafK notes I did nothing last night (or, incidentally, any night ever).
I know the missing kill looks suspicious. I have no idea where it went.
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Rafk: If you dont get it, we're waiting for you to say who you inspected.
He says nothing about his night actions. I think you mean Axelrod has unequivocally said he did nothing.
You, Rhino, have said you did nothing. Axelrod has said he did nothing. AS hasn't said. I don't like that.
I think it's better to be straight up, AS, don't you?
Given all the hints from earlier about how it was best for the town not to know about you, I wouldn't have been surprised to find that you had some sort of handy ability you'd been holding on to, and you still could have been town.
Anyway, that dispenses with the need for me to ask you any questions about your unturned traitor thing. Sorry AS, I wasn't bluffing. I watched you, and you got a PM last night. It's you, not Axelrod, who's the last one.
vote Aurorasparrow: Becky, traitor to Old Town, ally of Manute, enemy of Dwight and Miho, and innocent goody-two-shoes from the Gilmore Girls.
vote Aurorasparrow, who everyone had down as scum for the first day and a half of the game!
vote Aurorasparrow, who was never in on the lynch of a single mafia!
vote Aurorasparrow, the liar!
How ironic. I figured that Axelrod and DM weren't worth watching (both would have valid reasons to receive a PM based on their claims so watching them would prove nothing). Only AS and Rhino were worth watching at all (which I think was DM's idea too, since he suggested watching one of you two).
Despite the points against Rhino (EM's statement that sounded as if he had a "named" character, misrepresentation of me), the killing of chamber in retrospect cleared Rhino to me. chamber was confirmed but had no other ability. If Rhino was mafia, why not keep chamber around and kill AS (also "confirmed", but ability unknown)? Or kill me (less confirmed, but with an ability)?
Hence the only person it really made sense to watch was AS, since at least when he did nothing I could clear him.
Except that instead, I find myself not-clearing him. Amazing the way things turn out.
Big thanks to DM for declaring he was protecting me last night, since I've no doubt without that I was gone. From the descriptions, they obviously had carrion doing the kill after WOLG died, probably since if he was seen out at night that would be what was expected. In retrospect, this was the first night where my ability could actually catch us a mafia who had no excuse to be out at night, and DM trusted me enough to give me that night despite the fact I spent half the game trying to lynch him. I think that makes up for his error in knocking off Fayul.
I'm sure AS will now try to prove I'm scum. Bring it. Let's get this over with.
Oh, and for the avoidance of doubt, no, I'm not a multivoter, those aren't multivotes, etc, etc. I just did all that bolding for dramatic effect. I get a bit carried away at times like this.
He says nothing about his night actions. I think you mean Axelrod has unequivocally said he did nothing.
You, Rhino, have said you did nothing. Axelrod has said he did nothing. AS hasn't said. I don't like that.
I think it's better to be straight up, AS, don't you?
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I also hope RafK notes I did nothing last night (or, incidentally, any night ever).
This has confused me INCREDIBLY - it was in his first post today.
Anyway, now I believe it's MY turn for a big revelation (and I am now pretty DAMN sure this is the right play, and if I'm misreading this, so be it).
I'm scum. I am a mafioso. However, the other mafia don't know that I am a mafia, and I don't know who they are. This has made things difficult, and it also means that I don't count towards their win condition (for the record, the only lies I told were about my role title - it's Ex Mafia Geezer, not Ex Con. The rest was actually the truth). Soin light of this, Vote: RafK. Aurorasparrow should obv join me if he's scum (which I desperately hope he is) and then Ax wins by voting with us.
Or we could vote no lynch and have Aurora (or RafK if that's the deal) night kill the one who is townie. But I prefer this method.
At least I was right once again that the misrepresentation was the sign of a scumbag.
I guess if it's AS and Rhino vs me vs Axelrod I'm sunk, although I hardly know why we got a last day at all in that case. In fact, I don't know why Rhino didn't just say at the start of the day that he was a secret mafia and that whoever the other mafia was just needed to join him and Axelrod and win immediately. Don't see what he was waiting for.
Only possible out for me here is that Rhino is dead wrong and there's no other mafia but him. armlx got a bum result on Hawkeye which has never been explained. Leap of faith. I'll ignore my result on AS in favour of the declared mafioso. unvote, vote Rhinocero.
I guess we'll see now whether this last day is pointless or whether AS comes through as town after all.
At least I was right once again that the misrepresentation was the sign of a scumbag.
I guess if it's AS and Rhino vs me vs Axelrod I'm sunk, although I hardly know why we got a last day at all in that case. In fact, I don't know why Rhino didn't just say at the start of the day that he was a secret mafia and that whoever the other mafia was just needed to join him and Axelrod and win immediately. Don't see what he was waiting for.
I'm claiming mafia for a good reason, I view that as pretty much the riskiest action I can possibly take and I wanted some damn solid proof that there was another mafia left for me to win with before I took that step.
Well, either you're right and my result was right and it's curtains for me, or you're wrong and my result came from the same basket as armlx's unexplained result on Hawkeye and it's curtains for you.
Well, either you're right and my result was right and it's curtains for me, or you're wrong and my result came from the same basket as armlx's unexplained result on Hawkeye and it's curtains for you.
I guess it's all up to aurorasparrow.
*crosses fingers* I guess I'll see when I get up in the morning.
Good luck, since it seems it just about comes down to this.
If it wasn't official before, it's official now. This game is insane.
Sounds like Aurorasparrow is lying about something, or Raf. is lying about something. But considering Rhinocero just confessed an all, I fail to see how we can do other than lynch him dead. I'm seriously wondering if the game will end though....
Vote: Rhinocero
If we go to night, I am hiding like a mother, and you two can just go ahead and kill each other, okay?
/yellowbastard out.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Actually, this still doesn't make sense. Rhinocero's role doesn't appear to be a killing role. Who killed DM? If it was Rhinocero, he should have known that there were no other scum. If it wasn't....There's still someone else.
Duh Duh Duhhhhhhhh.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Rhinocero, a harmless-looking old fellow, recoils as the the remaining three close in around him. Desperately, he scans their faces for any sign of pity or sympathy, for any sign that someone will help him, but they remain implacable.
"This is wrong! All wrong!" He shouts. "This should already be over! There's two of us, and two of them! We can take them together. We're strong enough, if you'll help me. Please! I'm on your side."
"Shut up, you mafia scum." Aurorasparrow puts a bullet between his eyes. The shot rings out loud and clear, and the slug burrows into his brain, knocking him off his feet. Rhinocero, Ex-Mafia Geezer crumples to the floor, and dies. You feel a giant weight lift off your chests. Finally. At last. It's over.
Isn't it?
Wait...Rhinocero was positive there was someone else out there. Someone else, who struck last night. So if Rhinocero wasn't the one who killed Draygn_Mage, then who did? You glance at one another with renewed suspicion. But there must be something else going on. If there were two of them, why didn't they overpower you when they had the chance? Something isn't right.
You back away from one another slowly, and return to your rooms. Perhaps Rhinocero was wrong. Perhaps you'll wake up in the morning, and everything will be fine. You shiver as someone flicks off the lights on the way out of the room, and darkness envelops the conference chamber.
A sixth sense warns you, it's not over yet.
***
Living 3/23:
1. RafaelK
2. Aurorasparrow
3. Axelrod
Dead: 1. DYH-Townie Lunatic/Roleblocker/Investigator. Slashed to ribbons on day 1.
2. Kenji-Townie Paranoid. Died of a sudden heart attack day 1. (Modkill)
3. Puzzle- Neutral Pacifist. Lynched by the town day 1.
4. Bateleur-Townie, the Doctor's Daugher. Throat slashed night 2.
5. Hawkeye7-Townie Bodyguard. Sliced and diced by ninja stars day 2.
6. Armlx-Townie Mailman. Lynched by the town day 2.
7. Fayul- Townie, Overzealous Vigilante. Turned into a pez dispenser, night 3.
8. Sorryguy-Townie, Neutral Mason. Throat crushed night 3.
9. Fadeblue-Mafia, False Cop, Mafia Leader. Poisoned day 3. 10. LJustus, Neutral Hitman, aka "The Salesman", lynched day 3. 11. Cropcircles, Townie Psychic. Throat slit night 4. 12. Matjoeman, Townie, Hartigan, the Last Honest Cop. Cut to ribbons day 4. 13. WellofLostGnomes, Shredder, Mafia Lurker. Lynched Day 4. 14. Chamber, Townie, Neutral Mason. Stabbed in the gut, night 5. 15. JCSuperstar, Mafia Reporter, Strangled Day 5. 16. Crippled_Fist, Kevin, the Serial Killer, Lynched Day 5. 17. Highroller, April O'Neill, Townie Reporter. Tied up and bled to death, night 6. 18. Manute, Mafia Torturer. Lynched Day 6. 19. Draygn_Mage, Miho, Townie Avenger. Shot in the head night 7. 20. Rhinocero, Ex-Mafia Geezer. Lynched Day 7.
MIA:
1. Dwight McCarthy-Townie Mod Persona. Chased out of town, shot, and possibly killed, day 2.
***
Deadline is set for Saturday the 18th, at 2:00 PM, EST.
The grandfather clock sits in the corner, its weathered face watching over the room impassively. Everything is absolutely silent, except for that one inexorable sound. At 4:32 A.M., the sharp report of a gunshot breaks the stillness of the morning.
The grandfather clock continues to tick. Axelrod cautiously pokes his head inside the conference chamber. A few moments later, Rafaelk appears in the doorway.
They stare at each other wordlessly. Seconds crawl by. The grandfather clock ticks.
Day 8 of Sin City Mafia has begun.
***
Living 2/23:
1. RafaelK
2. Axelrod
Dead: 1. DYH-Townie Lunatic/Roleblocker/Investigator. Slashed to ribbons on day 1.
2. Kenji-Townie Paranoid. Died of a sudden heart attack day 1. (Modkill)
3. Puzzle- Neutral Pacifist. Lynched by the town day 1.
4. Bateleur-Townie, the Doctor's Daugher. Throat slashed night 2.
5. Hawkeye7-Townie Bodyguard. Sliced and diced by ninja stars day 2.
6. Armlx-Townie Mailman. Lynched by the town day 2.
7. Fayul- Townie, Overzealous Vigilante. Turned into a pez dispenser, night 3.
8. Sorryguy-Townie, Neutral Mason. Throat crushed night 3.
9. Fadeblue-Mafia, False Cop, Mafia Leader. Poisoned day 3. 10. LJustus, Neutral Hitman, aka "The Salesman", lynched day 3. 11. Cropcircles, Townie Psychic. Throat slit night 4. 12. Matjoeman, Townie, Hartigan, the Last Honest Cop. Cut to ribbons day 4. 13. WellofLostGnomes, Shredder, Mafia Lurker. Lynched Day 4. 14. Chamber, Townie, Neutral Mason. Stabbed in the gut, night 5. 15. JCSuperstar, Mafia Reporter, Strangled Day 5. 16. Crippled_Fist, Kevin, the Serial Killer, Lynched Day 5. 17. Highroller, April O'Neill, Townie Reporter. Tied up and bled to death, night 6. 18. Manute, Mafia Torturer. Lynched Day 6. 19. Draygn_Mage, Miho, Townie Avenger. Shot in the head night 7. 20. Rhinocero, Ex-Mafia Geezer. Lynched Day 7. 21. Aurorasparrow, Becky, Townie Traitor. Never showed up, night 8.
MIA:
1. Dwight McCarthy-Townie Mod Persona. Chased out of town, shot, and possibly killed, day 2.
Unless you can bend my vote to your will- and that would really, really suck- this is over.
vote Axelrod in case there's some weird rule about whoever voting first winning
OK, with the emergency vote-in-case out of the way, it's time to work out what the hell is going on here. If only Axelrod and I are here, neither of us are mafia (or the mafia would have achieved half, duh).
Hence-
Dwight McCarthy is still here. Perhaps he came back for Becky, the traitor to Old Town.
Dwight, vote for the Yellow Bastard over there. He's an evil sadistic rapist. I'm just a mailman! Then it's just you and me, and we can unlock the doors and leave!
If it's who votes who first, then you win. Although it does say 2 to lynch.
How is Aurorasparrow dead anyway?
If you didn't kill him, then maybe we have to lynch the mod (again).
My win is just what I said. So I really don't know what's going on.
Vote: Azrael
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I'll wait to see if that works, I think. Maybe it will, although I know Azrael was on earlier and he chose not to respond to my shout-out to Dwight McCarthy.
If not, well, maybe one of the dead isn't dead (AS is listed as "didn't show up", after all, rather than one of the usual gruesome descriptions, and there's been other oddities in this game).
Have you ever read Agatha Christie's story "And Then There Were None"? It was also titled "Ten Little Indians" on old copies, I think the name was changed for racism concerns.
Spoiler tags for those who might want to read the book for themselves:
Setup was 10 people trapped on an island resort, each turning out to have some very nasty guilty secret. One by one they were killed, until the last two- who each, of course, assumed the other one was the killer and ran away from each other. One eventually comes across the dead body of the other one, freaks out, and suicides. The ending is a confession note in a message in a bottle: one of the kills about halfway through was faked, one of the allegedly dead people was the killer, taking revenge on all these evil people who'd got away with various stuff.
If the fake dead person would please stand up?
SARNATH'D!
Hi Hvir.
And thanks.
The obvious question is, though- which side is Hvir on and who the heck won?
No, I think the obvious question is: Who cares anymore?
That's what's known as going out with a whimper as opposed to a bang.
Too bad.
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Vote: Carrion Pigeons
And now observe as DM's vote on Carrion mysteriously moves over to me....
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@Axelrod- I don't plan to move my vote, but if we're still playing tomorrow I would expect the town to look at you pretty thoroughly.
@AS- I too would like a claim now. You are not going to go the ENTIRE game without telling anyone anything about your role.
NO ONE FINISH HIM UNTIL RAF SHOWS UP.
@Raf- let us know what you got last night. You may be able to shed some light in the last couple of dark places. My *suggestion* for tonight is to watch AS or Rhino. We know that Axelrod will activate whatever ability he has (be it a protect or a night kill) so we can only narrow down who ELSE is active at night. I'll watch your back tonight as I think we've finally got the Mafia Roleblocker and I'll take care of anyone who targets you. The scum's only safe play is to kill AS, Rhino, or Me. If I'm dead come morning, then it will have to be your result/gut instinct that guides you tomorrow. If Rhino is dead, we have to decide between Axel or AS (depending on AS's claim). If AS is dead we have to choose between Axel or Rhino. If I have my ability back either you live or the town wins tonight.
3 Carrion Pigeons-Draygn_Mage, Rhinocero, Axelrod
2 Axelrod-Aurorasparrow, Carrion Pigeons
1 Not Voting: Rafaelk.
4 to lynch.
I didn't get a PM last night. First thing I thought was that the thing which has been doing DM did me. I PM'd Az, and he hasn't responded as of yet, although he's clearly been on since I sent the message. Which is frankly, very irritating.
As it happened, I was watching cp based on Axelrod's theory of earlier (whether dm is cp's partner, or axelrod is, I'm not sure yet. DM makes more sense from the point of view of why cp would have done for fade, but it could be that cp didn't think fade would be lynched. remember, fade died via daykill, not because the bandwagon reached a conclusion)
These painful killings are quite Manute like, coupled with Axelrod's case of yesterday I figured cp might well be making them. I thought there was a chance he might do the kill, be seen by me doing a night action, then not claim to have roleblocked anyone. Even if I'd got a PM, so much for that...
Please don't finish either him or Axelrod until I get to the bottom of whether I was roleblocked or whether Azrael is being forgetful or something.
Anyway, I looked back over the night actions and found something Axelrod managed to fail to mention when he did his list.
Post 1277:
And we now know WoLG was Shredder.
Post 1252, the kill from the night cp allegedly blocked WoLG:
Shredder was blocked that night, huh?
In the morning, if the game doesn't end with this lynch, we can work out who cp's partner is. Hammer time.
vote carrion pigeons
DM is "pledging" to protect you tonight, which is what he should be doing as a townie, but I'm not at all convinced you'll live, since he is mafia and since you appear to have more sense than Aurorasparrow. But I guess we'll see.
AS & Rhino- don't do anything.
Raf- watch one of them (your choice)
Axel- go ahead and hide
D_M- will watch raf.
Tomorrow, AS and Rhino tell whether or not they listened to me.
Raf will reveal who he watched and if they were lying.
I'll probably be dead, so it won't much matter.
4 Carrion Pigeons-Draygn_Mage, Rhinocero, Axelrod, RafaelK
2 Axelrod-Aurorasparrow, Carrion Pigeons
***
The town makes up their mind quickly today. Carrion Pigeons stood in the midst of the townies, calmly and politely explaining why he couldn't actually be the killer in question, while the mob ignored his explanation. Finally, Rafaelk lost his patience. He stepped up behind him, put a gun to his back, and pulled the trigger.
The bullet ripped into his back, and Carrion Pigeons grunted. And that was all. He looked slightly annoyed, like a bull that had been pinched, but he barely seemed to feel the pain. Rafaelk blanched slightly, as he whipped around and backhanded the weapon out of his hands.
The rest of the town opened fire, and he began to shudder slightly from the impact of the blows. He absorbed bullets like a sponge, and staggered around after each of you like a hulking giant. He moved quickly for a man the size of a gorilla, but the impacts of the bullets was knocking him off balance, if nothing else.
As the barrage continued relentlessly, even Carrion Pigeons' massive endurance began to fail. He stumbled to his knees, still struggling to regain his feet, to fight. But he was outnumbered, and outgunned. He pulled a wicked-looking throwing knife from his jacket, and drew it back in preparation for a throw, but Draygn_Mage knocked it from his hand, and Axelrod put a bullet in the back of his head to finish him. Several more bullets to the head were required, but eventually he stopped moving. You decided to set him on fire, for good measure, which seemed to produce the desired result.
But before you ignited him, someone remembered to search his belongings for anything of use. And as it happens, you managed to find yet another letter:
Another day, another dead mafia. Your hopes rise. Perhaps not all is as bleak as you feared. Only time will tell, you remind yourself, as you head back to your rooms. This is no time to be letting down your guard, not until you're sure you're safe.
***
Living 5/23:
1. RafaelK
2. Aurorasparrow
3. Axelrod
4. Draygn Mage
5. Rhinocero (replacing Einsteinmonkey)
Dead:
1. DYH-Townie Lunatic/Roleblocker/Investigator. Slashed to ribbons on day 1.
2. Kenji-Townie Paranoid. Died of a sudden heart attack day 1. (Modkill)
3. Puzzle- Neutral Pacifist. Lynched by the town day 1.
4. Bateleur-Townie, the Doctor's Daugher. Throat slashed night 2.
5. Hawkeye7-Townie Bodyguard. Sliced and diced by ninja stars day 2.
6. Armlx-Townie Mailman. Lynched by the town day 2.
7. Fayul- Townie, Overzealous Vigilante. Turned into a pez dispenser, night 3.
8. Sorryguy-Townie, Neutral Mason. Throat crushed night 3.
9. Fadeblue-Mafia, False Cop, Mafia Leader. Poisoned day 3.
10. LJustus, Neutral Hitman, aka "The Salesman", lynched day 3.
11. Cropcircles, Townie Psychic. Throat slit night 4.
12. Matjoeman, Townie, Hartigan, the Last Honest Cop. Cut to ribbons day 4.
13. WellofLostGnomes, Shredder, Mafia Lurker. Lynched Day 4.
14. Chamber, Townie, Neutral Mason. Stabbed in the gut, night 5.
15. JCSuperstar, Mafia Reporter, Strangled Day 5.
16. Crippled_Fist, Kevin, the Serial Killer, Lynched Day 5.
17. Highroller, April O'Neill, Townie Reporter. Tied up and bled to death, night 6.
18. Manute, Mafia Torturer. Lynched Day 6.
MIA:
1. Dwight McCarthy-Townie Mod Persona. Chased out of town, shot, and possibly killed, day 2.
***
Night 7 has begun.
Deadline is set for three days' time, Wednesday the 15th, 2:00 PM EST.
Draygn_Mage lies on the floor, a bullet-hole bored straight through her doll's face, her katana half-way drawn at her side. You look at one another suspiciously. It seems your hopes that the nightmare was over were premature.
Now, there are only four of you left. And the mafia is still lurking among you, killing at will. With so few of you left alive, the conflict is quickly headed for its ultimate conclusion. None of you are in the mood to sleep. The final conflict is too close, too much is at stake, and adrenaline is coursing through your system. It is time to end it.
You take a deep breath, and the last living survivors make their way to the conference hall, still shrouded in darkness, and only feebly lit by ancient incandescent bulbs, and the rusty chandelier from which Armlx was hung, on the second day of the conflict. It seems like almost a life-time ago. So much has happened, so many lives have been snuffed out, forever. Could this be the last day? Could everything, all the lives that were sacrificed, come down to the decision that you make here tonight? You are about to find out.
With four alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.
Good luck.
***
Living 4/23:
1. RafaelK
2. Aurorasparrow
3. Axelrod
4. Rhinocero (replacing Einsteinmonkey)
Dead:
1. DYH-Townie Lunatic/Roleblocker/Investigator. Slashed to ribbons on day 1.
2. Kenji-Townie Paranoid. Died of a sudden heart attack day 1. (Modkill)
3. Puzzle- Neutral Pacifist. Lynched by the town day 1.
4. Bateleur-Townie, the Doctor's Daugher. Throat slashed night 2.
5. Hawkeye7-Townie Bodyguard. Sliced and diced by ninja stars day 2.
6. Armlx-Townie Mailman. Lynched by the town day 2.
7. Fayul- Townie, Overzealous Vigilante. Turned into a pez dispenser, night 3.
8. Sorryguy-Townie, Neutral Mason. Throat crushed night 3.
9. Fadeblue-Mafia, False Cop, Mafia Leader. Poisoned day 3.
10. LJustus, Neutral Hitman, aka "The Salesman", lynched day 3.
11. Cropcircles, Townie Psychic. Throat slit night 4.
12. Matjoeman, Townie, Hartigan, the Last Honest Cop. Cut to ribbons day 4.
13. WellofLostGnomes, Shredder, Mafia Lurker. Lynched Day 4.
14. Chamber, Townie, Neutral Mason. Stabbed in the gut, night 5.
15. JCSuperstar, Mafia Reporter, Strangled Day 5.
16. Crippled_Fist, Kevin, the Serial Killer, Lynched Day 5.
17. Highroller, April O'Neill, Townie Reporter. Tied up and bled to death, night 6.
18. Manute, Mafia Torturer. Lynched Day 6.
19. Draygn_Mage, Miho, Townie Avenger. Shot in the head night 7.
MIA:
1. Dwight McCarthy-Townie Mod Persona. Chased out of town, shot, and possibly killed, day 2.
Time to regroup. I'm fairly sure this doesn't make any sense.
Aurorasparrow needs to claim something. There's absolutely no reason not to.
Raf. perhaps you caught lightning in a bottle?
And DM, what the hell were you thinking?
This is an excellent time for anyone who did a night action last night to admit to it, because as it happens I wasn't watching DM. I was watching one of you.
I also agree with Axelrod that we should have a claim from aurorasparrow today. This is in all likelihood, the last day. A mislynch and the last nightkill tonight will result in 1 mafia vs 1 other = end. Full information is our best chance.
And as a general warning, remember that Rhino may have a vote-force left and would thus be able to plonk down two votes on someone. Don't vote AT ALL until you're sure.
Additional- oh, and also remember that Axelrod even IF he's truthful has every reason to just put down a finishing vote whenever the opportunity arises.
So yeah. This is a very delicate voting situation.
I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this before, but for purposes of disclosure, when Chamber went away, so did my ability (since it went through him and SG, and they're gone). So yeah.
I also agree that Aurorasparrow NEEDS to claim before the day is through. We don't have sufficient time left to avoid it, and we should avoid any action at all until that is done.
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He was role-blocked on Nights 4-6. Even though MatJoe was also blocked Night 4, and CP appears to have done the kill Night 6. Meaning that this role is different from CP's role.
The "role-block" caused Az to fail to send DM a confirmation PM each night? So that it appeared to Raf. (Night 4) that DM got No Mod PM.
The mafia didn't kill MatJoe Night 4, even though DM was "blocked." Instead, they blocked MatJoe too?
The mafia really did get no kill on Night 3.
This mystery Role-blocker hasn't hit anyone else the whole game?
How do the mafia have 2 role-blockers?
Shoot. I've more or less been assuming that Raf. didn't see Aurorasparrow do anything Night 2 when he "watched" him. If that's not right, I don't know what to think.
Don't have a lot of time right now. We really need to hear Aurorasparrow.
I'm not yet saying what I did or didn't see last night, pending AS showing up to comment today.
The point that both matjoe and DM were apparently blocked at once is well-taken, although potentially DM was right with his guess that he lost his ability when he killed an innocent. The roleblock on matjoe was like the roleblocks on Hawkeye, it had the forced vote-unvote bit and a torture flavour. DM apparently got no flavour and no vote-unvote. Ultimately I suspect that's what was going on. If the mafia really had two roleblocks, why did matjoe go unblocked and get to make an inspection on the night where cp and fadeblue set up that "I roleblocked a mafia!" thing?
As for where the mafia kill went on the night cp claimed to have blocked fade, I'd like to hear from AS before speculating on that.
I'm Becky aka Alexis Bledel aka the girl who ratted out Old Town. I'm an unturned traitor.
If you doubt that I'm still a townie, I'd like to point out how many mafia I've significantly contributed to outing and how many townies I've defended. I also hope RafK notes I did nothing last night (or, incidentally, any night ever).
I know the missing kill looks suspicious. I have no idea where it went.
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21: 28.9%
22: 27.5%
23: 26.3%
24: 25.5%
25: 25.1%
26: 25.3%
I think it's very interesting you think the missing kill looks suspicious. Suspicious for who?
I did have more to say, but I think it can wait. I'd definitely like to know what unturned traitor means.
Actually, I will add one more bit of food for thought, because that bit of pre-emptive defence about outing scum made me go back and check the votes.
We only lynched two mafia members, WOLG and cp.
aurorasparrow was not on either lynch.
I didn't come into this morning suspicious of AS, for what it's worth, but that last post raised hackles.
So it appears to me Aurorasparrow is referencing a role like this. I seem to recall (or maybe this is just another variant), the mafia must "skip" their night-kill in order to recruit said Traitor.
Do we believe in a 5 man mafia plus a Traitor, plus the possibility of Chamber or SorryGuy flipping (plus my role, though that's a self-serving argument).
I'm also not especially impressed with his "look how townie I've been acting defense."
But I take it, Raf. that you didn't see anyone doing anything last night. That would probably be fairly good info that said person was not the last mafia.
AS also didn't happen to say whether he did anything or got a mod PM. I would like him to commit one way or the other.
I believe he is claiming he did nothing here.
Which means all of us have claimed to do nothing. I realize you haven't said who you watched, I'm saying whoever it was, assuming they didn't get a Mod PM, is probably not the last mafia. So you could tell us who to remove that particular person from the equation.
If the person you saw did get a Mod PM, they are lying now.
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21: 28.9%
22: 27.5%
23: 26.3%
24: 25.5%
25: 25.1%
26: 25.3%
And while we're at it, to say why you find the missing kill suspicious (I think it is, but I want to know your take on it), and to say what you mean about you outing scum given that you weren't in on the lynch of either of the two mafia we actually lynched.
AS, we are past the point where you get to be close-mouthed. We need everyone's opinions and full information on everyone to make the best decision we can. I acknowledge I'm saying this while I'm holding back on the result of my ability, but my ability has been confirmed several times over (unless you're saying you did get a mod PM on the second night and that I'm lying?). You haven't said what it is you do. Ever. That was fine while we had other scum candidates and it was worthwhile keeping the mafia guessing about what you do at night. It has now stopped being worthwhile.
I could very easily come up with a theory that you were recruited on the no-kill night after matjoe investigated you, or alternately that Becky is simply inspection-immune (what with being played by the same actress as Rory Gilmore- we've already seen from Frodo/Kevin that there's crossover here). Dwight and Miho were town. Manute was scum. Why's Becky town?
If you ARE town, do not give us reason to go further down that road. It would royally suck to mess this up at the last moment and lynch you, then find you were indeed a townie who just refused to co-operate.
I am pretty unswayed towards any one side right now, and I think at this point I'm going to need some pretty serious evidence before I commit to any side. Don't rush, guys - we miss here and we pretty much lose. With the information we have now I would be inclined to think Aurora is probably mafia, but I definitely await more info.
Has not.
Entirety of the posts by AS today-
He says nothing about his night actions. I think you mean Axelrod has unequivocally said he did nothing.
You, Rhino, have said you did nothing. Axelrod has said he did nothing. AS hasn't said. I don't like that.
I think it's better to be straight up, AS, don't you?
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Chances of bad hands (<2 or >4 land):
21: 28.9%
22: 27.5%
23: 26.3%
24: 25.5%
25: 25.1%
26: 25.3%
Given all the hints from earlier about how it was best for the town not to know about you, I wouldn't have been surprised to find that you had some sort of handy ability you'd been holding on to, and you still could have been town.
Anyway, that dispenses with the need for me to ask you any questions about your unturned traitor thing. Sorry AS, I wasn't bluffing. I watched you, and you got a PM last night. It's you, not Axelrod, who's the last one.
vote Aurorasparrow: Becky, traitor to Old Town, ally of Manute, enemy of Dwight and Miho, and innocent goody-two-shoes from the Gilmore Girls.
vote Aurorasparrow, who everyone had down as scum for the first day and a half of the game!
vote Aurorasparrow, who was never in on the lynch of a single mafia!
vote Aurorasparrow, the liar!
How ironic. I figured that Axelrod and DM weren't worth watching (both would have valid reasons to receive a PM based on their claims so watching them would prove nothing). Only AS and Rhino were worth watching at all (which I think was DM's idea too, since he suggested watching one of you two).
Despite the points against Rhino (EM's statement that sounded as if he had a "named" character, misrepresentation of me), the killing of chamber in retrospect cleared Rhino to me. chamber was confirmed but had no other ability. If Rhino was mafia, why not keep chamber around and kill AS (also "confirmed", but ability unknown)? Or kill me (less confirmed, but with an ability)?
Hence the only person it really made sense to watch was AS, since at least when he did nothing I could clear him.
Except that instead, I find myself not-clearing him. Amazing the way things turn out.
Big thanks to DM for declaring he was protecting me last night, since I've no doubt without that I was gone. From the descriptions, they obviously had carrion doing the kill after WOLG died, probably since if he was seen out at night that would be what was expected. In retrospect, this was the first night where my ability could actually catch us a mafia who had no excuse to be out at night, and DM trusted me enough to give me that night despite the fact I spent half the game trying to lynch him. I think that makes up for his error in knocking off Fayul.
I'm sure AS will now try to prove I'm scum. Bring it. Let's get this over with.
Oh, and for the avoidance of doubt, no, I'm not a multivoter, those aren't multivotes, etc, etc. I just did all that bolding for dramatic effect. I get a bit carried away at times like this.
This has confused me INCREDIBLY - it was in his first post today.
Anyway, now I believe it's MY turn for a big revelation (and I am now pretty DAMN sure this is the right play, and if I'm misreading this, so be it).
I'm scum. I am a mafioso. However, the other mafia don't know that I am a mafia, and I don't know who they are. This has made things difficult, and it also means that I don't count towards their win condition (for the record, the only lies I told were about my role title - it's Ex Mafia Geezer, not Ex Con. The rest was actually the truth). Soin light of this, Vote: RafK. Aurorasparrow should obv join me if he's scum (which I desperately hope he is) and then Ax wins by voting with us.
Or we could vote no lynch and have Aurora (or RafK if that's the deal) night kill the one who is townie. But I prefer this method.
Am I the only one left?
At least I was right once again that the misrepresentation was the sign of a scumbag.
I guess if it's AS and Rhino vs me vs Axelrod I'm sunk, although I hardly know why we got a last day at all in that case. In fact, I don't know why Rhino didn't just say at the start of the day that he was a secret mafia and that whoever the other mafia was just needed to join him and Axelrod and win immediately. Don't see what he was waiting for.
Only possible out for me here is that Rhino is dead wrong and there's no other mafia but him. armlx got a bum result on Hawkeye which has never been explained. Leap of faith. I'll ignore my result on AS in favour of the declared mafioso. unvote, vote Rhinocero.
I guess we'll see now whether this last day is pointless or whether AS comes through as town after all.
I guess it's all up to aurorasparrow.
Good luck, since it seems it just about comes down to this.
vote Rhinocero
4th place at CCC&G Pro Tour
Chances of bad hands (<2 or >4 land):
21: 28.9%
22: 27.5%
23: 26.3%
24: 25.5%
25: 25.1%
26: 25.3%
If it wasn't official before, it's official now. This game is insane.
Sounds like Aurorasparrow is lying about something, or Raf. is lying about something. But considering Rhinocero just confessed an all, I fail to see how we can do other than lynch him dead. I'm seriously wondering if the game will end though....
Vote: Rhinocero
If we go to night, I am hiding like a mother, and you two can just go ahead and kill each other, okay?
/yellowbastard out.
Duh Duh Duhhhhhhhh.
3 Rhinocero-Axelrod, Aurorsparrow, Rafaelk
1 Aurorsparrow-Rhinocero
***
Rhinocero, a harmless-looking old fellow, recoils as the the remaining three close in around him. Desperately, he scans their faces for any sign of pity or sympathy, for any sign that someone will help him, but they remain implacable.
"This is wrong! All wrong!" He shouts. "This should already be over! There's two of us, and two of them! We can take them together. We're strong enough, if you'll help me. Please! I'm on your side."
"Shut up, you mafia scum." Aurorasparrow puts a bullet between his eyes. The shot rings out loud and clear, and the slug burrows into his brain, knocking him off his feet. Rhinocero, Ex-Mafia Geezer crumples to the floor, and dies. You feel a giant weight lift off your chests. Finally. At last. It's over.
Isn't it?
Wait...Rhinocero was positive there was someone else out there. Someone else, who struck last night. So if Rhinocero wasn't the one who killed Draygn_Mage, then who did? You glance at one another with renewed suspicion. But there must be something else going on. If there were two of them, why didn't they overpower you when they had the chance? Something isn't right.
You back away from one another slowly, and return to your rooms. Perhaps Rhinocero was wrong. Perhaps you'll wake up in the morning, and everything will be fine. You shiver as someone flicks off the lights on the way out of the room, and darkness envelops the conference chamber.
A sixth sense warns you, it's not over yet.
***
Living 3/23:
1. RafaelK
2. Aurorasparrow
3. Axelrod
Dead:
1. DYH-Townie Lunatic/Roleblocker/Investigator. Slashed to ribbons on day 1.
2. Kenji-Townie Paranoid. Died of a sudden heart attack day 1. (Modkill)
3. Puzzle- Neutral Pacifist. Lynched by the town day 1.
4. Bateleur-Townie, the Doctor's Daugher. Throat slashed night 2.
5. Hawkeye7-Townie Bodyguard. Sliced and diced by ninja stars day 2.
6. Armlx-Townie Mailman. Lynched by the town day 2.
7. Fayul- Townie, Overzealous Vigilante. Turned into a pez dispenser, night 3.
8. Sorryguy-Townie, Neutral Mason. Throat crushed night 3.
9. Fadeblue-Mafia, False Cop, Mafia Leader. Poisoned day 3.
10. LJustus, Neutral Hitman, aka "The Salesman", lynched day 3.
11. Cropcircles, Townie Psychic. Throat slit night 4.
12. Matjoeman, Townie, Hartigan, the Last Honest Cop. Cut to ribbons day 4.
13. WellofLostGnomes, Shredder, Mafia Lurker. Lynched Day 4.
14. Chamber, Townie, Neutral Mason. Stabbed in the gut, night 5.
15. JCSuperstar, Mafia Reporter, Strangled Day 5.
16. Crippled_Fist, Kevin, the Serial Killer, Lynched Day 5.
17. Highroller, April O'Neill, Townie Reporter. Tied up and bled to death, night 6.
18. Manute, Mafia Torturer. Lynched Day 6.
19. Draygn_Mage, Miho, Townie Avenger. Shot in the head night 7.
20. Rhinocero, Ex-Mafia Geezer. Lynched Day 7.
MIA:
1. Dwight McCarthy-Townie Mod Persona. Chased out of town, shot, and possibly killed, day 2.
***
Deadline is set for Saturday the 18th, at 2:00 PM, EST.
Good game everyone.
The grandfather clock sits in the corner, its weathered face watching over the room impassively. Everything is absolutely silent, except for that one inexorable sound. At 4:32 A.M., the sharp report of a gunshot breaks the stillness of the morning.
The grandfather clock continues to tick. Axelrod cautiously pokes his head inside the conference chamber. A few moments later, Rafaelk appears in the doorway.
They stare at each other wordlessly. Seconds crawl by. The grandfather clock ticks.
Day 8 of Sin City Mafia has begun.
***
Living 2/23:
1. RafaelK
2. Axelrod
Dead:
1. DYH-Townie Lunatic/Roleblocker/Investigator. Slashed to ribbons on day 1.
2. Kenji-Townie Paranoid. Died of a sudden heart attack day 1. (Modkill)
3. Puzzle- Neutral Pacifist. Lynched by the town day 1.
4. Bateleur-Townie, the Doctor's Daugher. Throat slashed night 2.
5. Hawkeye7-Townie Bodyguard. Sliced and diced by ninja stars day 2.
6. Armlx-Townie Mailman. Lynched by the town day 2.
7. Fayul- Townie, Overzealous Vigilante. Turned into a pez dispenser, night 3.
8. Sorryguy-Townie, Neutral Mason. Throat crushed night 3.
9. Fadeblue-Mafia, False Cop, Mafia Leader. Poisoned day 3.
10. LJustus, Neutral Hitman, aka "The Salesman", lynched day 3.
11. Cropcircles, Townie Psychic. Throat slit night 4.
12. Matjoeman, Townie, Hartigan, the Last Honest Cop. Cut to ribbons day 4.
13. WellofLostGnomes, Shredder, Mafia Lurker. Lynched Day 4.
14. Chamber, Townie, Neutral Mason. Stabbed in the gut, night 5.
15. JCSuperstar, Mafia Reporter, Strangled Day 5.
16. Crippled_Fist, Kevin, the Serial Killer, Lynched Day 5.
17. Highroller, April O'Neill, Townie Reporter. Tied up and bled to death, night 6.
18. Manute, Mafia Torturer. Lynched Day 6.
19. Draygn_Mage, Miho, Townie Avenger. Shot in the head night 7.
20. Rhinocero, Ex-Mafia Geezer. Lynched Day 7.
21. Aurorasparrow, Becky, Townie Traitor. Never showed up, night 8.
MIA:
1. Dwight McCarthy-Townie Mod Persona. Chased out of town, shot, and possibly killed, day 2.
***
With 2 alive, it's two votes to lynch.
Axelrod, what's your win condition? Really?
Unless you can bend my vote to your will- and that would really, really suck- this is over.
vote Axelrod in case there's some weird rule about whoever voting first winning
OK, with the emergency vote-in-case out of the way, it's time to work out what the hell is going on here. If only Axelrod and I are here, neither of us are mafia (or the mafia would have achieved half, duh).
Hence-
Dwight McCarthy is still here. Perhaps he came back for Becky, the traitor to Old Town.
Dwight, vote for the Yellow Bastard over there. He's an evil sadistic rapist. I'm just a mailman! Then it's just you and me, and we can unlock the doors and leave!
If it's who votes who first, then you win. Although it does say 2 to lynch.
How is Aurorasparrow dead anyway?
If you didn't kill him, then maybe we have to lynch the mod (again).
My win is just what I said. So I really don't know what's going on.
Vote: Azrael
Waiting, always waiting. Never posting, and (almost) never voting. Was the wait worth it? You tell me.
Goodnight, sunshine.
Vote Axelrod.
If not, well, maybe one of the dead isn't dead (AS is listed as "didn't show up", after all, rather than one of the usual gruesome descriptions, and there's been other oddities in this game).
Have you ever read Agatha Christie's story "And Then There Were None"? It was also titled "Ten Little Indians" on old copies, I think the name was changed for racism concerns.
Spoiler tags for those who might want to read the book for themselves:
If the fake dead person would please stand up?
SARNATH'D!
Hi Hvir.
And thanks.
The obvious question is, though- which side is Hvir on and who the heck won?
That's what's known as going out with a whimper as opposed to a bang.
Too bad.