It's not really an informative role. It lets a random player spew their garbage nonsense into the thread for one more phase. Most of you have been terrible so far anyway, so I'm not terribly impressed by granting one person the ability to speak for one more Day.
The only time it actually does anything that affects the game is when I target a cop with it.
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I thought about it, and Dragon, you should target me with your ability. If I'm right about Meg, Proph, and Gricky, I'm a huge target for toNight. I'm not a Cop, but your ability will work well with mine.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Btw, that assumes I make it to Night Phase. Honestly, I still feel like I'll be lynched just because the town is terrible and doesn't know what else to do.
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In response to me defeating the town in a Perfect Scum Victory in Avatar Mafia:
I thought about it, and Dragon, you should target me with your ability. If I'm right about Meg, Proph, and Gricky, I'm a huge target for toNight. I'm not a Cop, but your ability will work well with mine.
Cause that's what we need, persuasive dead scum coming back to bark our ears off.
Seriously dude, I don't have the time right now, but in 8 hours I'm setting you straight. Just wanted to point out the 1. OMGUS and 2. bucket-load of WIFOM up in this post.
As for your vote reasoning on Meg, if I have to repost your vote and analysis, then define and explain each word to you one at a time, I'll do so, then I'll use that to explain how you go into detail about your vote reasoning, at least a little more than you are leading on. Anybody with a basic grasp of the English language can see it really.
There's so much to set you straight with. Makes me wonder how you ended up so sideways. Or scum. You know, whichever.
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Who was that masked man anyway?
MTGSalvation: Now with more Drama than Season 5 of Supernatural!
Audinho is going as far as humanly possible to avoid posting original thoughts.
(...)
Conclusion: He has made no effort at all to provide original thought, instead trying to hide and let other people take all the credit/flak from cases. Vote Audinho
It's not easy to come up with something original which isn't bogus in a 24-player game with such a high postfrequensy, especially since I'm in Europe and seldom can reply to posts instantly (i.e. I wake up in the morning to go through 50 new posts). What I think of saying, someone has usually allready said.
I'm not trying to hide at all, and how in the five frogs am I letting other people take flak from cases? As far as I see I'm getting plenly of flak.
I'm really having difficulty reconciling that DH is town.
It's easily testable. If we mislynch today, DH targets the lynchee and we get another day out of him. If the lynchee doesn't show up, that means DH was lying, and we caught scum. This would work, right?
I can't imagine how DH's role is advantageous to scum, so I'm pretty sure it's a town role. Therefore, proof that DH has the claimed role will be proof that DH is town.
I say we give him another day to let him prove himself.
Also, DH has the personal rule that he will not lie. He has, like in Star Trek, actually said the magic words "I'm town" when he believed he was done for anyway. He could of course easily have decided not to play by that rule, but I'll count it as a point in his favor anyway since we have a proveable claim.
unvote DragonHeart
@GrickyTimmick: I really don't want to continue with the huge walls of text going back and forth arguing what we've both said before. Shall we just agree that you think I'm scum while I don't? I think the only thing that required answering in your latest post on me was the issue of the "no-look barn", which I thought I explained. I don't think it was a no-look barn. I really don't have anything more to add to that which I haven't allready said. If you're not convinced then I'm not able to convince you.
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Damnation studios!
P9 - VT - Win
Zodiac - Doublevoter - Loss
Starcraft - VT - Loss
The Office - Mafia Rolecop - Win
1984 - VT - Vigged - Loss
Quantum - Lynched D1 Alpha Mafia - Win
Mean Girls - Town Masonizer Replaced into lynch - Loss
Startrek Voyager - Backup JOAT - Loss
Boardgame - VT- Loss
Ghost Story - VT - (replaced in)
Smalltown Animaniacs - Delay Doc - Loss
Kill Bill - One-shot Vig - Loss
Magical Girls -
Mr Potato Head -
@Arnnaria: I noticed that you were waiting for me to answer a question, but I forgot what it was and don't feel like sifting through the past 200 posts to find it. Could you ask it again, please? TIA.
I'm not looking for a claim, I'm just looking for a simple up or down vote:
Arnnaria - I'm never quite certain of the etiquette of putting yourself on the list.
Wessel - Well thoughtout posts.
Guardman - I don't think this is his scum game. I'll elaborate more when games finish.
Leaning Town
Cyouni - Logic seems sound
Gricky Timmick - Logical and is putting hismelf on the line by defending Megiddo. Don't think a scum buddy of Megiddo would go down with the ship.
Asian Invasion - Linked to Seppel, for better of for worse.
Iso - tunnel vision on Megiddo, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Wheat Grinder - What I do understand rings town.
Ahylis - In the "Dragon vs. Ahylis" theory debate, I think Ahylis won.
Neutral
Kpaca - Claimed
Seppel - Claimed
Tordeck - Really want to put him as "leaning town", but feel as if I need more content from him.
Leaning Scum
Megiddo - He's provided explanations for his actions. I don't think he's the best lynch for today.
Dragonheart91 - either whiney, petulant scum or whiney, petulant child
Scum
Audinho - "hey I'll wagon hop from target to target without providing any internal justification"
Not Enough Information (Need more posts)
Arcadic
Prophylaxis
Void (Wife injured back; in the clear)
Infinis
Zajent (Less than 5 posts)
fluffyn00b (Less than 5 posts)
Archmage_Eternal (Less than 5 posts)
WE HAVE SIX PEOPLE WHO I CAN'T GET A READ ON BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT POSTING
I'm not counting Void because, well, **** happens and we can't control that. If we want to start rooting out some scum, we need to apply some pressure on the people who have less than 5 posts.
What do you mean by internal justification? (litterarily, I don't understand what it means)
Are you voting me allready, or is there other reasons why you put me as the only scum on the list and does not include a vote?
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Damnation studios!
P9 - VT - Win
Zodiac - Doublevoter - Loss
Starcraft - VT - Loss
The Office - Mafia Rolecop - Win
1984 - VT - Vigged - Loss
Quantum - Lynched D1 Alpha Mafia - Win
Mean Girls - Town Masonizer Replaced into lynch - Loss
Startrek Voyager - Backup JOAT - Loss
Boardgame - VT- Loss
Ghost Story - VT - (replaced in)
Smalltown Animaniacs - Delay Doc - Loss
Kill Bill - One-shot Vig - Loss
Magical Girls -
Mr Potato Head -
What do you mean by internal justification? (litterarily, I don't understand what it means)
Are you voting me allready, or is there other reasons why you put me as the only scum on the list and does not include a vote?
My votes on Dragon.
By "internal justification" i mean you're eschewing your own logic and reasoning to barn off of other people's logic and reasoning. If you're gonna make a vote, make it for why YOU think the vote is sound. Don't just barn other people's arguments.
What would you do as scum if one of your buddies was discovered... and then left alone? You can't buddy them because they are scum. You can't bus them, because the town determined they should be let live. You end up in an incredibly awkward situation where any interactions with that player are very dangerous. Then the townsfolk get to watch the scum interact with people and see what turns up. Obviously 100% of people wouldn't be in agreement about whether that player was scum, let alone whether they should have been let live. You also put the scum in a position where they need their ally dead.
IMO, the only correct play for the scum player at that point would be to clam up and not speak again. (Which then confirms they are scum.)
Another example of this comes from Cyberpunk where a scum claimed in LyLo. The town couldn't touch him for a variety of reasons though. He tried to just be quiet, but the town still found his ally based on interactions. He also couldn't help trying to prod the town a bit, which was able to be analyzed for more information gain.
Scum are leaking buckets of information that the town desperately need. The only reason to kill them is if you need to stop their abilities, or if you need to keep them from controlling the vote. The rest of the time living scum are beneficial to the town.
I thought we lynched scum to WIN THE GAME. You know, that townie win condition?
The problem is you haven't been discussing. You have been campaigning. You have been more dedicated to info lynching and have been pushing more for info lynching then actual scum hunting.
Your scum hunting consists of a player having a change of tone in a post where he is clearly parodying scum. You then for the most part drop hunting him and instead engage on trying to convince people we should be info lynching day 1. In fact the only real scumhunting towards Ahylis I've seen from you since you voted for him was berating and attacking his persons not his words/actions for agreeing with Seppel and for having a legitimate and good reason for voting you. Plus you called his vote OMGUS when it clearly wasn't.
Thank you for the 5K post compliment. I am expecting my name to appear in gold soon.
Also this right here is the definition of OMGUS. I attack you and you come back and attack me with no reason other than you are attacking easy targets despite the fact I've clearly explained my reasoning for my actions and votes.
I am pretty sure both Meg and Drag are scum. All things considered given this I would rather lynch Drag since it is better for my sanity.
All of you are hopeless. I'm done with this discussion. How about you guys decide who to lynch today. I'll let you know if I see any serious logical errors or notice any scumslips. No one is listening to my rational and I don't scumhunt the same way you guys do. With so few interactions on Day 1, I don't see as much to attack yet. (And I definitely don't agree with the case on Megiddo.)
Let me know if you need me. I'll be reading along.
We so bad at deh mafia's, please tell us what townie to lynch for information?
I'm some young girl who joined up with a group that use fire based powers to keep the world in balance or something. I've never heard of any of it and can't pronounce most of the names.
My ability is similar to a Medium, but greatly weakened. I can target a player once per night. If that player gets killed, they get to continue talking the next day. (But still lose all their abilities and vote.) So basically, I can let people talk for a Day after death if I pick correctly.
I was pretty disappointed honestly, because this role is very weak. I just consider myself equivalent to a vanilla townsfolk. I tried to talk to the mod, but he is convinced that my role is amazingly super powerful... Which actually makes me wonder about the game balance here. If the mod considers a weakened version of a Medium a powerful town role, that might have skewed game balance slightly in the mafia's favor.
The #1 most useful way to use my ability is paired with any cop or investigative role. If I target them, they will basically get one more shot of their ability after death. (Because they will be able to reveal the results they got that Night when they would normally be dead and unable to talk to us.) The second use for it would be to give a town player who gets vigged a shot at redeeming themselves and info-dumping on their way out.
If anyone cares about my flavor I can go copy/paste the names of everything from my PM. I think my ability makes Torches or Flares or something like that which are supposed to be weakened versions of living souls that slowly fade away. Apparently my character falls in love with one at some point in the show.
@Iso: Since no one will believe me anymore, I don't have to feel guilty. I'm town.
5 quick steps to botching a false claim.
1. Omit your role name and flavor name.
2. Claim role related things to out town power roles.
3. Complain about high power games and then bemoan your "low power role"
4. See other players claim role names and then ask if we care about them. (hint, kpaca's claim is 1000% believable due to that)
5. Blame the fact your cant pronounce words, instead of just copy/pasting them or using google to figure it out.
I thought about it, and Dragon, you should target me with your ability. If I'm right about Meg, Proph, and Gricky, I'm a huge target for toNight. I'm not a Cop, but your ability will work well with mine.
Hello, scum iso. Taking a page outta scum Shalako's meta are we?
I'm really having difficulty reconciling that DH is town.
+ scum points for Audhino's l-1 vote despite less than half the game replying to the claim.
I'm happy with DH as the lynch, he's proven he is going to be useless in actual scumhunting, he has no motivation towards lynching scum and he wants to completely dismiss the reads of neutrals.
The only logical conclusion is that the mafia got the town win condition from Charm. If this is true, then Iso gets +scum points for rubbing it in our faces, since this is a thing a scum Iso would definitely do.
Charm not weighing in on it either way makes me absolutely fine with this lynch.
I don't like Audinho's post 422, for three reasons.
1) I also live in Europe and I know how disadvantageous that can be. However, that has little to do with original thought and it seems to me like Audinho is just trying to find excuses.
2) Whether or not on purpose, he interpreted DragonHeart's wrongly in such a way that, if no-one would have noticed, would have possibly meant a mislynch of DH. Audinho says that we should lynch DH if the lynchee doesn't come back tomorrow. However, that's not how DH's ability works. It only works on people who are killed during the night.
3) He doesn't want to continue his argument with GrickyTimmick.
Each on its own, these things aren't scummy per se, but I don't like the high concentration of scummy statements.
I got my eye on you, Audinho.
1) You are way better than me at this game, the difference beeing that you actually notice stuff that others don't, as well as have an established way of playing. I'm still struggling to find my feet in how to play and what to take notice of. My general experience with actually coming up with anything original has 100% of the time consisted of beeing met with accusations of how weak everything I say is and most of the time ended with me struggling not to get lynched. There's a reason I never get NK'ed, I'm very easily lynchable.
2) That was not on purpose, I actually thought it worked that way. So DH's ability isn't testable after all?
3. No, because I feel we are running around in circles repeating ourselves.
5 quick steps to botching a false claim.
1. Omit your role name and flavor name.
2. Claim role related things to out town power roles.
3. Complain about high power games and then bemoan your "low power role"
4. See other players claim role names and then ask if we care about them. (hint, kpaca's claim is 1000% believable due to that)
5. Blame the fact your cant pronounce words, instead of just copy/pasting them or using google to figure it out.
You truly are stupid aren't you?
I committed one of the biggest "scumslips" on my list this game. I disagreed with site meta. I've also done a few others, like try to argue against my lynch, obviously some wrong stuff with the claiming, and more if I went back and analyzed my posts.
The thing is though, I literally have this **** written down as things people get lynched for. The only reason I'm doing it is because I'm town and trying to help.
If this town lynches me, they deserve to lose this game for being close-minded and predictable. I hereby resolve to stop committing scumtells from my list, even though it means my helpfulness will be severely gimped.
My win condition is "Eliminate All threats to the Town."
Unvote.
We'll see what happens with the Mod, but I'm going to accept this for now. Yes, the Mod may have given the Town wincon to the Scum, but that seems like a bit of a stretch unless you think the Mod gave them complete fake role PMs.
We'll see what happens with the Mod, but I'm going to accept this for now. Yes, the Mod may have given the Town wincon to the Scum, but that seems like a bit of a stretch unless you think the Mod gave them complete fake role PMs.
Or Iso was like "Hey mod, what's the town wincon?"
And Charm was like "Eliminate threats yada yada"
And Iso was like "Hey DH, here's the town wincon, now post it"
And DH was like "I'm scum I mean town here's the wincon BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE FROM MY ROLE PM JUST IN CASE I SCREW UP WHAT A TOWN ROLE PM LOOKS LIKE"
And Ahlyis was like "oh that makes perfect sense, unvote"
Oh one last thing before I start behaving. Anything different is scary. That's the #1 reason I have been run up. I simply hadn't joined the crowdthink mentality. I'll be getting in line though, and squashing my remaining original ideas. (To be put down on my private notes for end game.)
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so wait, are we believe that this was some gambit to prove a point? that you intentionally acted out things that, per site meta, are scumtells just to show us how tunneled we all are?
And now you expect us to take your word at that and unvote? Come now.
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Can we have Megiddo removed from the forum forever please?
i'm pretty sure i can find your ***** online within 3 minutes
I committed one of the biggest "scumslips" on my list this game. I disagreed with site meta. I've also done a few others, like try to argue against my lynch, obviously some wrong stuff with the claiming, and more if I went back and analyzed my posts.
"Hi guys, I admit I've done a whole bunch of scummy things so far."
The thing is though, I literally have this **** written down as things people get lynched for. The only reason I'm doing it is because I'm town and trying to help.
"All these things are scummy for anyone else to do, but it's okay for me to do them because I'm trying to help Town."
I hereby resolve to stop committing scumtells from my list, even though it means my helpfulness will be severely gimped.
"I promise to stop acting scummy, but remember, I was only acting scummy because I'm me, and I can help Town by acting Scummy. But if you guys don't want the help, fine, I'll stop acting Scummy."
Is that a fairly accurate interpretation?
I'm seriously considering putting my vote back just to get rid of you Dragon. I don't think Mafia needs attitudes like yours, regardless of your alignment!
Cause that's what we need, persuasive dead scum coming back to bark our ears off.
There are three things wrong with this theory.
1. If I flip scum, NO ONE IS GOING TO LISTEN TO ME.
2. Unless I get Vigged (unlikely at this point), I wouldn't be dying toNight short of an SK or Hitman kind of role. And given that we already have 2 claimed Neutrals, that is equally unlikely.
3. You just slipped that you know Dragonheart is town.
Unvote, Vote Gricky
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Seriously dude, I don't have the time right now, but in 8 hours I'm setting you straight. Just wanted to point out the 1. OMGUS and 2. bucket-load of WIFOM up in this post.
How am I OMGUSing you? I'm deconstructing your **** attack on me and pointing out all of the inconsistencies in your logic. I just happen to think they make you scum. Also: What WIFOM?
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As for your vote reasoning on Meg, if I have to repost your vote and analysis, then define and explain each word to you one at a time, I'll do so, then I'll use that to explain how you go into detail about your vote reasoning, at least a little more than you are leading on. Anybody with a basic grasp of the English language can see it really.
-And then I'll say, "No, that's not what I meant, and I know what I mean when I say what I mean" and I'll get you lynched because it is almost always scum who try to misconstrue what I mean into getting me lynched.
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There's so much to set you straight with. Makes me wonder how you ended up so sideways. Or scum. You know, whichever.
"So much to set me straight with"?
If you're town, step up your game. Otherwise, keep coming at me, bro.
The only logical conclusion is that the mafia got the town win condition from Charm. If this is true, then Iso gets +scum points for rubbing it in our faces, since this is a thing a scum Iso would definitely do.
Or Iso was like "Hey mod, what's the town wincon?"
And Charm was like "Eliminate threats yada yada"
And Iso was like "Hey DH, here's the town wincon, now post it"
And DH was like "I'm scum I mean town here's the wincon BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE FROM MY ROLE PM JUST IN CASE I SCREW UP WHAT A TOWN ROLE PM LOOKS LIKE"
And Ahlyis was like "oh that makes perfect sense, unvote"
You think I'm scum with DH and Ahylis? How do you justify that?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Or Iso was like "Hey mod, what's the town wincon?"
And Charm was like "Eliminate threats yada yada"
And Iso was like "Hey DH, here's the town wincon, now post it"
IF the Scum have Daychat, then you're right. That's a very strong possibility. But from what I was told elsewhere, this forum isn't known for having a high percentage of games giving Scum Daychat ability. Still, it's certainly possible.
I'd still like to wait for a votecount or other post from the Mod before making any final decision though. I want to see if there's any repercussions or comments given out by the Mod.
Who is GT's vote currently on? If it's on me and he just posted a premise requiring me to be town, then I'm willing to move my vote. You don't vote for someone then then assume they are town without taking your vote off. (I'm assuming he is voting for me, but there hasn't been a vote count in a while, so I'm not certain.)
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OOG: I don't know how the mafia mods enforce those sorts of insults, but you can always report a post if you find it offensive.
/mod hat off
If the insult were directed at me, I'd consider it. But reporting any post in a Mafia game runs the risk of having content removed from the thread, which is not a good thing, though sometimes necessary.
IF the Scum have Daychat, then you're right. That's a very strong possibility. But from what I was told elsewhere, this forum isn't known for having a high percentage of games giving Scum Daychat ability. Still, it's certainly possible.
I'd still like to wait for a votecount or other post from the Mod before making any final decision though. I want to see if there's any repercussions or comments given out by the Mod.
Like I said, the scum don't have Daychat if Megiddo is scum.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Who is GT's vote currently on? If it's on me and he just posted a premise requiring me to be town, then I'm willing to move my vote. You don't vote for someone then then assume they are town without taking your vote off. (I'm assuming he is voting for me, but there hasn't been a vote count in a while, so I'm not certain.)
So do you understand why Gricky has to be calling you town for him to attempt to dissuade you from targeting me with your ability?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Who is GT's vote currently on? If it's on me and he just posted a premise requiring me to be town, then I'm willing to move my vote. You don't vote for someone then then assume they are town without taking your vote off. (I'm assuming he is voting for me, but there hasn't been a vote count in a while, so I'm not certain.)
Gricky's on Audinho as far as I can tell.
@iso: thanks for the clarification.
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i'm pretty sure i can find your ***** online within 3 minutes
So do you understand why Gricky has to be calling you town for him to attempt to dissuade you from targeting me with your ability?
If I wasn't town, my ability wouldn't make sense. If he believes my ability, he believes I'm town. In addition, that premise requires that you be scum who somehow have something to gain from an extra day of talking. (Which as we just discussed earlier, is usually bad for the scum.) Beyond that, you would also have to get night killed, which tends to imply that he thinks you are town.
It's a conflict of internal logic.
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Let me know if you guys want my final reads, what any kind of claiming from me, or etc. I doubt anything I have to say would really delay the lynch at all, but I would like to help as much as I can on my way out.
Btw, that assumes I make it to Night Phase. Honestly, I still feel like I'll be lynched just because the town is terrible and doesn't know what else to do.
Ibi est iterum. Non identify ut *** oppidum. Ergo, vobis sunt Mafia
When I asked that I didn't know you were gunna quote the damn thing. Figured you would paraphrase and I could figure out if you were lying based on language used.
Cause that's what we need, persuasive dead scum coming back to bark our ears off.
Seriously dude, I don't have the time right now, but in 8 hours I'm setting you straight. Just wanted to point out the 1. OMGUS and 2. bucket-load of WIFOM up in this post.
As for your vote reasoning on Meg, if I have to repost your vote and analysis, then define and explain each word to you one at a time, I'll do so, then I'll use that to explain how you go into detail about your vote reasoning, at least a little more than you are leading on. Anybody with a basic grasp of the English language can see it really.
There's so much to set you straight with. Makes me wonder how you ended up so sideways. Or scum. You know, whichever.
It's easily testable. If we mislynch today, DH targets the lynchee and we get another day out of him. If the lynchee doesn't show up, that means DH was lying, and we caught scum. This would work, right?
I can't imagine how DH's role is advantageous to scum, so I'm pretty sure it's a town role. Therefore, proof that DH has the claimed role will be proof that DH is town.
I say we give him another day to let him prove himself.
Also, DH has the personal rule that he will not lie. He has, like in Star Trek, actually said the magic words "I'm town" when he believed he was done for anyway. He could of course easily have decided not to play by that rule, but I'll count it as a point in his favor anyway since we have a proveable claim.
I committed one of the biggest "scumslips" on my list this game. I disagreed with site meta. I've also done a few others, like try to argue against my lynch, obviously some wrong stuff with the claiming, and more if I went back and analyzed my posts.
The thing is though, I literally have this **** written down as things people get lynched for. The only reason I'm doing it is because I'm town and trying to help.
If this town lynches me, they deserve to lose this game for being close-minded and predictable. I hereby resolve to stop committing scumtells from my list, even though it means my helpfulness will be severely gimped.
Oh one last thing before I start behaving. Anything different is scary. That's the #1 reason I have been run up. I simply hadn't joined the crowdthink mentality. I'll be getting in line though, and squashing my remaining original ideas. (To be put down on my private notes for end game.)
1. If I flip scum, NO ONE IS GOING TO LISTEN TO ME.
2. Unless I get Vigged (unlikely at this point), I wouldn't be dying toNight short of an SK or Hitman kind of role. And given that we already have 2 claimed Neutrals, that is equally unlikely. 3. You just slipped that you know Dragonheart is town.
Unvote, Vote Gricky
Ubi? Ego consideremus. hoc. causam. ad Lynch, sed. probatio. primum.
If I wasn't town, my ability wouldn't make sense. If he believes my ability, he believes I'm town. In addition, that premise requires that you be scum who somehow have something to gain from an extra day of talking. (Which as we just discussed earlier, is usually bad for the scum.) Beyond that, you would also have to get night killed, which tends to imply that he thinks you are town.
It's a conflict of internal logic.
Mafia resuscitator. fecit non videtur. possibile. apud. primum.
Who is GT's vote currently on? If it's on me and he just posted a premise requiring me to be town, then I'm willing to move my vote. You don't vote for someone then then assume they are town without taking your vote off. (I'm assuming he is voting for me, but there hasn't been a vote count in a while, so I'm not certain.)
Mos def the vote is on me.
I'm feeling confident that DH is town. This weird stuff about making all the scumslips known to man is something I believe he would do to challenge the "laws" of mafia. I have the same feeling as when he claimed he would never lie. It's unconventional and probably not very productive, but hell I like it.
One thing though:
DH: Where did you get my so-called scum meta from? Are you confusing me with someone else?
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P9 - VT - Win
Zodiac - Doublevoter - Loss
Starcraft - VT - Loss
The Office - Mafia Rolecop - Win
1984 - VT - Vigged - Loss
Quantum - Lynched D1 Alpha Mafia - Win
Mean Girls - Town Masonizer Replaced into lynch - Loss
Startrek Voyager - Backup JOAT - Loss
Boardgame - VT- Loss
Ghost Story - VT - (replaced in)
Smalltown Animaniacs - Delay Doc - Loss
Kill Bill - One-shot Vig - Loss
Magical Girls -
Mr Potato Head -
One thing though:
DH: Where did you get my so-called scum meta from? Are you confusing me with someone else?
I remember a discussion in one of the games I was spectating of you where you talked about being uncertain because you didn't have anyone to bounce ideas off. I wasn't trying to push your meta super hard, because it's a vague memory and I'm only 90% sure it was even you. GT totally ran with it though.
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In response to me defeating the town in a Perfect Scum Victory in Avatar Mafia:
Sometime in the next week or so I will be going on an emergency V/LA while my daughter undergoes yet another surgery. I will announce when, when I find out the exact date.
Its tomorrow. Back by Sunday or Monday
@Audinho - Dragon gave up that free pass in Avatar.
Charm was pretty clear(to me at least since I PMed him to confirm) that no part of the role PM is allowed to be directly quoted. This is a nulltell on DH's claim.
Post#430 by Audinho - Ive seen Audi use the self depreciating defense before, and as town IIRC (STVM) but here it just seems to forced. FOS
I'm asking everyone, not just DH. I really want to know if personal attacks are considered "okay" around here.
Calling ones actions or ideas stupid is generally ok. Calling someone directly stupid is not. Small rule of thumb to try and follow as we all know Mafia can get heated sometimes.
I'm seriously considering putting my vote back just to get rid of you Dragon. I don't think Mafia needs attitudes like yours, regardless of your alignment!
what you are advocating here is a Policy lynch. Yeah not a fan. (cept for lynch all Liars{which from now own should be known as the lynch all isos rule :p} )
IF the Scum have Daychat, then you're right. That's a very strong possibility. But from what I was told elsewhere, this forum isn't known for having a high percentage of games giving Scum Daychat ability. Still, it's certainly possible.
Always assume they do. This way even if they dont you can try to out think them.
If the insult were directed at me, I'd consider it. But reporting any post in a Mafia game runs the risk of having content removed from the thread, which is not a good thing, though sometimes necessary.
Mods wont remove the post or content from the post (unless seriously OP). Just infract it.
It's true, I did lie in Avatar Mafia. The town mass-claimed and pressured me to claim with them. It was a super tight game and I don't think my team could have won without me, so I lied.
Not lying is optimal, but I'm not going to throw a game because of it.
@Arcadic: I do expect an infraction for calling you stupid, and you honestly don't know me well enough to realize how ridiculous your post was. I apologize for attacking you, it was uncalled for.
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In response to me defeating the town in a Perfect Scum Victory in Avatar Mafia:
It's true, I did lie in Avatar Mafia. The town mass-claimed and pressured me to claim with them. It was a super tight game and I don't think my team could have won without me, so I lied.
Not lying is optimal, but I'm not going to throw a game because of it.
@Arcadic: I do expect an infraction for calling you stupid, and you honestly don't know me well enough to realize how ridiculous your post was. I apologize for attacking you, it was uncalled for.
Dragon, I need clarification on your medium role. Can you only "bring back" someone who was lynched, or do you have to correctly guess the night kill? I have other questions, but I don't want to tip off scum with the nitty gritty of your ability.
Charm was pretty clear(to me at least since I PMed him to confirm) that no part of the role PM is allowed to be directly quoted. This is a nulltell on DH's claim.
So, pray-tell why kpaca and seppel are still alive, because they named their character for the game and the flavor of their character? Null tell my ass, its a pretty large tell that he was willing to describe all this random crap but not give what 2, almost 3, players have already given the game, their names.
My role only works with night kills and I can only target living players. Honestly, I'm not concerned with scum learning the details of my ability. It's such a low powered role, that the risk here was the scum realizing I'm not someone they should ever bother to kill.
IMO, everyone should be reading my role as a flavorful vanilla townsfolk. That's basically what I'm doing.
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In response to me defeating the town in a Perfect Scum Victory in Avatar Mafia:
Save yourself some pain. The anime is adapted from a game, the anime is disjointed and not very well put together to describe accurate situations. Its a beautiful anime, just not very good in the story.
Support your wild claim.
Why would you leave the game if you can't find him, but not leave the game when 1. He gets kill after, 2 when you find him. Sense your claim is not making.
/barn this.
@Question for Kpaca : your target knows they get the bauble correct? Follow up to this pending answer.
I think so but am not sure, would you like me to query the mod?
I'm not saying we should actively target townies, I'm saying that we should lynch whoever gives us the most information from their lynch. Scumhunting is still valid, and if there is a scummy player and a townie player who both would grant lots of info we should lynch the scummy one.
Sometimes I don't even know why I bother with you people. None of you seem to be open to new ideas and scum are rapidly learning to adapt to your stale meta.
I'll let you know when I've caught scum and you can believe me or lose.
Do you have the winning lotto numbers to? I'm just asking since apparently you are infallible.
P.S. Congratulations on 5k posts Guardman. Also, you are scum. Your last sentence reads: "I support either of these two townies who seem like low hanging fruit."
All of you are hopeless. I'm done with this discussion. How about you guys decide who to lynch today. I'll let you know if I see any serious logical errors or notice any scumslips. No one is listening to my rational and I don't scumhunt the same way you guys do. With so few interactions on Day 1, I don't see as much to attack yet. (And I definitely don't agree with the case on Megiddo.)
Let me know if you need me. I'll be reading along.
I'm not sure if you are scum are just deplorably bad at the game of mafia, but either way it doesn't matter, I am for policy lynching you and your crap attitude.
So, pray-tell why kpaca and seppel are still alive, because they named their character for the game and the flavor of their character? Null tell my ass, its a pretty large tell that he was willing to describe all this random crap but not give what 2, almost 3, players have already given the game, their names.
Good catch.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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I'm really having difficulty reconciling that DH is town.
Cause that's what we need, persuasive dead scum coming back to bark our ears off.
Seriously dude, I don't have the time right now, but in 8 hours I'm setting you straight. Just wanted to point out the 1. OMGUS and 2. bucket-load of WIFOM up in this post.
As for your vote reasoning on Meg, if I have to repost your vote and analysis, then define and explain each word to you one at a time, I'll do so, then I'll use that to explain how you go into detail about your vote reasoning, at least a little more than you are leading on. Anybody with a basic grasp of the English language can see it really.
There's so much to set you straight with. Makes me wonder how you ended up so sideways. Or scum. You know, whichever.
It's not easy to come up with something original which isn't bogus in a 24-player game with such a high postfrequensy, especially since I'm in Europe and seldom can reply to posts instantly (i.e. I wake up in the morning to go through 50 new posts). What I think of saying, someone has usually allready said.
I'm not trying to hide at all, and how in the five frogs am I letting other people take flak from cases? As far as I see I'm getting plenly of flak.
It's easily testable. If we mislynch today, DH targets the lynchee and we get another day out of him. If the lynchee doesn't show up, that means DH was lying, and we caught scum. This would work, right?
I can't imagine how DH's role is advantageous to scum, so I'm pretty sure it's a town role. Therefore, proof that DH has the claimed role will be proof that DH is town.
I say we give him another day to let him prove himself.
Also, DH has the personal rule that he will not lie. He has, like in Star Trek, actually said the magic words "I'm town" when he believed he was done for anyway. He could of course easily have decided not to play by that rule, but I'll count it as a point in his favor anyway since we have a proveable claim.
unvote DragonHeart
@GrickyTimmick: I really don't want to continue with the huge walls of text going back and forth arguing what we've both said before. Shall we just agree that you think I'm scum while I don't? I think the only thing that required answering in your latest post on me was the issue of the "no-look barn", which I thought I explained. I don't think it was a no-look barn. I really don't have anything more to add to that which I haven't allready said. If you're not convinced then I'm not able to convince you.
Damnation studios!
Zodiac - Doublevoter - Loss
Starcraft - VT - Loss
The Office - Mafia Rolecop - Win
1984 - VT - Vigged - Loss
Quantum - Lynched D1 Alpha Mafia - Win
Mean Girls - Town Masonizer Replaced into lynch - Loss
Startrek Voyager - Backup JOAT - Loss
Boardgame - VT- Loss
Ghost Story - VT - (replaced in)
Smalltown Animaniacs - Delay Doc - Loss
Kill Bill - One-shot Vig - Loss
Magical Girls -
Mr Potato Head -
Work hard, play casually
I'm not looking for a claim, I'm just looking for a simple up or down vote:
Is keeping Seppel alive beneficial to the Town?
Town
Arnnaria - I'm never quite certain of the etiquette of putting yourself on the list.
Wessel - Well thoughtout posts.
Guardman - I don't think this is his scum game. I'll elaborate more when games finish.
Leaning Town
Cyouni - Logic seems sound
Gricky Timmick - Logical and is putting hismelf on the line by defending Megiddo. Don't think a scum buddy of Megiddo would go down with the ship.
Asian Invasion - Linked to Seppel, for better of for worse.
Iso - tunnel vision on Megiddo, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Wheat Grinder - What I do understand rings town.
Ahylis - In the "Dragon vs. Ahylis" theory debate, I think Ahylis won.
Neutral
Kpaca - Claimed
Seppel - Claimed
Tordeck - Really want to put him as "leaning town", but feel as if I need more content from him.
Leaning Scum
Megiddo - He's provided explanations for his actions. I don't think he's the best lynch for today.
Dragonheart91 - either whiney, petulant scum or whiney, petulant child
Scum
Audinho - "hey I'll wagon hop from target to target without providing any internal justification"
Not Enough Information (Need more posts)
Arcadic
Prophylaxis
Void (Wife injured back; in the clear)
Infinis
Zajent (Less than 5 posts)
fluffyn00b (Less than 5 posts)
Archmage_Eternal (Less than 5 posts)
WE HAVE SIX PEOPLE WHO I CAN'T GET A READ ON BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT POSTING
I'm not counting Void because, well, **** happens and we can't control that. If we want to start rooting out some scum, we need to apply some pressure on the people who have less than 5 posts.
Are you voting me allready, or is there other reasons why you put me as the only scum on the list and does not include a vote?
Damnation studios!
Zodiac - Doublevoter - Loss
Starcraft - VT - Loss
The Office - Mafia Rolecop - Win
1984 - VT - Vigged - Loss
Quantum - Lynched D1 Alpha Mafia - Win
Mean Girls - Town Masonizer Replaced into lynch - Loss
Startrek Voyager - Backup JOAT - Loss
Boardgame - VT- Loss
Ghost Story - VT - (replaced in)
Smalltown Animaniacs - Delay Doc - Loss
Kill Bill - One-shot Vig - Loss
Magical Girls -
Mr Potato Head -
Work hard, play casually
My votes on Dragon.
By "internal justification" i mean you're eschewing your own logic and reasoning to barn off of other people's logic and reasoning. If you're gonna make a vote, make it for why YOU think the vote is sound. Don't just barn other people's arguments.
I thought we lynched scum to WIN THE GAME. You know, that townie win condition?
OMGUS example that will be taught in mafia schools for ages.
Just because he's neutral, doesn't make you right or wrong.
We so bad at deh mafia's, please tell us what townie to lynch for information?
Good post here pointing out the flaw in Iso's stance.
5 quick steps to botching a false claim.
1. Omit your role name and flavor name.
2. Claim role related things to out town power roles.
3. Complain about high power games and then bemoan your "low power role"
4. See other players claim role names and then ask if we care about them. (hint, kpaca's claim is 1000% believable due to that)
5. Blame the fact your cant pronounce words, instead of just copy/pasting them or using google to figure it out.
Hello, scum iso. Taking a page outta scum Shalako's meta are we?
+ scum points for Audhino's l-1 vote despite less than half the game replying to the claim.
I'm happy with DH as the lynch, he's proven he is going to be useless in actual scumhunting, he has no motivation towards lynching scum and he wants to completely dismiss the reads of neutrals.
My wife was on MTV with this video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUutIZg2EpU
Charm not weighing in on it either way makes me absolutely fine with this lynch.
Townsiding to victory, *****es.
1) You are way better than me at this game, the difference beeing that you actually notice stuff that others don't, as well as have an established way of playing. I'm still struggling to find my feet in how to play and what to take notice of. My general experience with actually coming up with anything original has 100% of the time consisted of beeing met with accusations of how weak everything I say is and most of the time ended with me struggling not to get lynched. There's a reason I never get NK'ed, I'm very easily lynchable.
2) That was not on purpose, I actually thought it worked that way. So DH's ability isn't testable after all?
3. No, because I feel we are running around in circles repeating ourselves.
My vote was before the claim, and not to l-1. You are confusing my unvote with a vote.
So you know the town wincon after all? Are you neutral or are you town with an additional, neutral wincon?
Damnation studios!
Zodiac - Doublevoter - Loss
Starcraft - VT - Loss
The Office - Mafia Rolecop - Win
1984 - VT - Vigged - Loss
Quantum - Lynched D1 Alpha Mafia - Win
Mean Girls - Town Masonizer Replaced into lynch - Loss
Startrek Voyager - Backup JOAT - Loss
Boardgame - VT- Loss
Ghost Story - VT - (replaced in)
Smalltown Animaniacs - Delay Doc - Loss
Kill Bill - One-shot Vig - Loss
Magical Girls -
Mr Potato Head -
Work hard, play casually
I'm assuming that DH posted the correct wincon since nobody lynched him over it.
You truly are stupid aren't you?
I committed one of the biggest "scumslips" on my list this game. I disagreed with site meta. I've also done a few others, like try to argue against my lynch, obviously some wrong stuff with the claiming, and more if I went back and analyzed my posts.
The thing is though, I literally have this **** written down as things people get lynched for. The only reason I'm doing it is because I'm town and trying to help.
If this town lynches me, they deserve to lose this game for being close-minded and predictable. I hereby resolve to stop committing scumtells from my list, even though it means my helpfulness will be severely gimped.
Flaming Infraction Issued
- atlsea
Unvote.
We'll see what happens with the Mod, but I'm going to accept this for now. Yes, the Mod may have given the Town wincon to the Scum, but that seems like a bit of a stretch unless you think the Mod gave them complete fake role PMs.
Or Iso was like "Hey mod, what's the town wincon?"
And Charm was like "Eliminate threats yada yada"
And Iso was like "Hey DH, here's the town wincon, now post it"
And DH was like "I'm scum I mean town here's the wincon BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE FROM MY ROLE PM JUST IN CASE I SCREW UP WHAT A TOWN ROLE PM LOOKS LIKE"
And Ahlyis was like "oh that makes perfect sense, unvote"
And now you expect us to take your word at that and unvote? Come now.
Is crap like that considered acceptable on this site?
I'm asking everyone, not just DH. I really want to know if personal attacks are considered "okay" around here.
Let me see if I can paraphrase the rest of the post...
"Hi guys, I admit I've done a whole bunch of scummy things so far."
"All these things are scummy for anyone else to do, but it's okay for me to do them because I'm trying to help Town."
"Wah wah wah, nobody likes me so I'm just going to continue insulting everyone."
"I promise to stop acting scummy, but remember, I was only acting scummy because I'm me, and I can help Town by acting Scummy. But if you guys don't want the help, fine, I'll stop acting Scummy."
Is that a fairly accurate interpretation?
I'm seriously considering putting my vote back just to get rid of you Dragon. I don't think Mafia needs attitudes like yours, regardless of your alignment!
There are three things wrong with this theory.
1. If I flip scum, NO ONE IS GOING TO LISTEN TO ME.
2. Unless I get Vigged (unlikely at this point), I wouldn't be dying toNight short of an SK or Hitman kind of role. And given that we already have 2 claimed Neutrals, that is equally unlikely.
3. You just slipped that you know Dragonheart is town.
Unvote, Vote Gricky
How am I OMGUSing you? I'm deconstructing your **** attack on me and pointing out all of the inconsistencies in your logic. I just happen to think they make you scum. Also: What WIFOM?
-And then I'll say, "No, that's not what I meant, and I know what I mean when I say what I mean" and I'll get you lynched because it is almost always scum who try to misconstrue what I mean into getting me lynched.
"So much to set me straight with"?
If you're town, step up your game. Otherwise, keep coming at me, bro.
What?
Also, are you REALLY willing to tie yourself to Gricky at this point, Arcadic? Because I'm about to go on a murderous scumhunting rampage.
That makes no sense.
You think I'm scum with DH and Ahylis? How do you justify that?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
/mod hat off
@iso: Is that quote you attributed to me part of Gricky's post?
IF the Scum have Daychat, then you're right. That's a very strong possibility. But from what I was told elsewhere, this forum isn't known for having a high percentage of games giving Scum Daychat ability. Still, it's certainly possible.
I'd still like to wait for a votecount or other post from the Mod before making any final decision though. I want to see if there's any repercussions or comments given out by the Mod.
If the insult were directed at me, I'd consider it. But reporting any post in a Mafia game runs the risk of having content removed from the thread, which is not a good thing, though sometimes necessary.
Yep, my bad. Got lynching you on the brain, and you were the quote topic.
Like I said, the scum don't have Daychat if Megiddo is scum.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
So do you understand why Gricky has to be calling you town for him to attempt to dissuade you from targeting me with your ability?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@iso: thanks for the clarification.
If I wasn't town, my ability wouldn't make sense. If he believes my ability, he believes I'm town. In addition, that premise requires that you be scum who somehow have something to gain from an extra day of talking. (Which as we just discussed earlier, is usually bad for the scum.) Beyond that, you would also have to get night killed, which tends to imply that he thinks you are town.
It's a conflict of internal logic.
Note the lack of the subjunctive indicating a statement that is not contrary to fact.
Ibi est iterum. Non identify ut *** oppidum. Ergo, vobis sunt Mafia
Oppidum ante. Modo non sum certus.
Hoc dat me malum affectum.
/horreum
Hoc dat me malum affectum.
Sed etiam si. probatum. Est. Dragonheart oppidum?
non. te
Te sunt. loquentes. ex. tam lateribus ore.
Vobis potest non gravis.
Tantum. numnam. Te sunt. magis credibile.
Ubi? Ego consideremus. hoc. causam. ad Lynch, sed. probatio. primum.
Mafia resuscitator. fecit non videtur. possibile. apud. primum.
Mos def the vote is on me.
I'm feeling confident that DH is town. This weird stuff about making all the scumslips known to man is something I believe he would do to challenge the "laws" of mafia. I have the same feeling as when he claimed he would never lie. It's unconventional and probably not very productive, but hell I like it.
One thing though:
DH: Where did you get my so-called scum meta from? Are you confusing me with someone else?
Damnation studios!
Zodiac - Doublevoter - Loss
Starcraft - VT - Loss
The Office - Mafia Rolecop - Win
1984 - VT - Vigged - Loss
Quantum - Lynched D1 Alpha Mafia - Win
Mean Girls - Town Masonizer Replaced into lynch - Loss
Startrek Voyager - Backup JOAT - Loss
Boardgame - VT- Loss
Ghost Story - VT - (replaced in)
Smalltown Animaniacs - Delay Doc - Loss
Kill Bill - One-shot Vig - Loss
Magical Girls -
Mr Potato Head -
Work hard, play casually
I remember a discussion in one of the games I was spectating of you where you talked about being uncertain because you didn't have anyone to bounce ideas off. I wasn't trying to push your meta super hard, because it's a vague memory and I'm only 90% sure it was even you. GT totally ran with it though.
Its tomorrow. Back by Sunday or Monday
@Audinho - Dragon gave up that free pass in Avatar.
Charm was pretty clear(to me at least since I PMed him to confirm) that no part of the role PM is allowed to be directly quoted. This is a nulltell on DH's claim.
Post#430 by Audinho - Ive seen Audi use the self depreciating defense before, and as town IIRC (STVM) but here it just seems to forced. FOS
Calling ones actions or ideas stupid is generally ok. Calling someone directly stupid is not. Small rule of thumb to try and follow as we all know Mafia can get heated sometimes.
what you are advocating here is a Policy lynch. Yeah not a fan. (cept for lynch all Liars{which from now own should be known as the lynch all isos rule :p} )
That would be great. Then when you die toNight, since you are such a threatening player, we can all bathe in the wine. Good Plan buddy.
Always assume they do. This way even if they dont you can try to out think them.
Mods wont remove the post or content from the post (unless seriously OP). Just infract it.
nulltell, he does that regardless of alignment.
The Family
There it is again. Not to identify with the town. Therefore, you are Mafia
The town before. At present I am not sure.
This gives me a bad feeling.
/ barn
This gives me a bad feeling.
But even if. proved. Is. Dragonheart town?
no. you
You are. speaking. out. both sides of the mouth.
You can not be serious.
Only. IF. You are. more believable.
Where? I consider. this. cause. to Lynch, but. the proof. first.
Post 2:
Mafia revive. He did not seem to be. be possible. at. first.
Damnation studios!
Zodiac - Doublevoter - Loss
Starcraft - VT - Loss
The Office - Mafia Rolecop - Win
1984 - VT - Vigged - Loss
Quantum - Lynched D1 Alpha Mafia - Win
Mean Girls - Town Masonizer Replaced into lynch - Loss
Startrek Voyager - Backup JOAT - Loss
Boardgame - VT- Loss
Ghost Story - VT - (replaced in)
Smalltown Animaniacs - Delay Doc - Loss
Kill Bill - One-shot Vig - Loss
Magical Girls -
Mr Potato Head -
Work hard, play casually
Tordeck: You mean DH can lie now?
Damnation studios!
Zodiac - Doublevoter - Loss
Starcraft - VT - Loss
The Office - Mafia Rolecop - Win
1984 - VT - Vigged - Loss
Quantum - Lynched D1 Alpha Mafia - Win
Mean Girls - Town Masonizer Replaced into lynch - Loss
Startrek Voyager - Backup JOAT - Loss
Boardgame - VT- Loss
Ghost Story - VT - (replaced in)
Smalltown Animaniacs - Delay Doc - Loss
Kill Bill - One-shot Vig - Loss
Magical Girls -
Mr Potato Head -
Work hard, play casually
DH. mentitus. in. Legend de Aang
Not lying is optimal, but I'm not going to throw a game because of it.
@Arcadic: I do expect an infraction for calling you stupid, and you honestly don't know me well enough to realize how ridiculous your post was. I apologize for attacking you, it was uncalled for.
Dragon, I need clarification on your medium role. Can you only "bring back" someone who was lynched, or do you have to correctly guess the night kill? I have other questions, but I don't want to tip off scum with the nitty gritty of your ability.
So, pray-tell why kpaca and seppel are still alive, because they named their character for the game and the flavor of their character? Null tell my ass, its a pretty large tell that he was willing to describe all this random crap but not give what 2, almost 3, players have already given the game, their names.
My wife was on MTV with this video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUutIZg2EpU
IMO, everyone should be reading my role as a flavorful vanilla townsfolk. That's basically what I'm doing.
I think so but am not sure, would you like me to query the mod?
Do you have the winning lotto numbers to? I'm just asking since apparently you are infallible.
Useless post just trying to stir the pot ^
Seppel is anti town.
Good defense.
I'm not sure if you are scum are just deplorably bad at the game of mafia, but either way it doesn't matter, I am for policy lynching you and your crap attitude.
unvote: Vote DH91
Stop faking a pr now. And I do mean now.
Good catch.
I don't know if you're town or not, but it's win/win.
If you're scum, I want you lynched so=win.
If you're town, I want you lynched just as a policy lynch so I can lynch you in later games, so=win.
Either way here's to you getting lynched!
*sip*