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Set Name:Gatecrash Block: Set 2 of 3 in the Return to Ravnica block Three-Letter Abbreviation: GTC Twitter Hashtag: #MTGGTC Number of Cards: 249 Rarity Distribution: Unknown Release Date: February 1, 2013 Prerelease Events: January 26-27, 2013 Launch Weekend: February 1-4, 2013 Magic Online Release Date: Unknown Game Day: February 23-24, 2013 Start Previews on Daily MTG: December 31, 2012
Prerelease will be 5x boosters plus 1x guild booster. A guild pack has 15 cards of those colors, including a promo prerelease card (which there will be 5 promos, one for each guild, the same as the Intro Pack rares), guild spindown, guild sticker, a letter from your guild leader and a prerelease challenge card.
The prerelease cards from each guild may be played in the prerelease!
Triple-drafted by itself
Guild oriented
Orzhov - Extort
Dimir - Cipher
Gruul - Bloodrush
Boros - Battalion
Simic - Evolve
Each guild gets a new mechanic. There are some mechanical connections to the previous Ravnica block. However, none of the old Ravnica keywords will appear.
There are two planeswalkers in the set, one of which is Gideon. The second is Domri Rade.
The 5 guild leaders are legendary creatures, all which are new or new versions of characters.
Orzhov - Obzedat, Ghost Council
Dimir - Lazav, Dimir Mastermind
Gruul - Borborygmos Enraged
Boros - Aurelia, the Warleader
Simic - Prime Speaker Zegana
Hybrid cards will be in the set. The Hybrid 1-drop cycle is not continued.
The uncounterable cycle will not be continued.
Bolas will have no involvement in this block. (Maro)
Design Team:
Mark Rosewater (co-lead)
Mark Gottlieb (co-lead)
Joe Huber
Dave Humpherys
Ethan Fleischer
Shawn Main
Development Team
Dave Humpherys (lead)
Zac Hill
Mark Globus
Mark Purvis
Max McCall
Gavin Verhey
Lazav
Ghost Council of Orzhova
Borborygmos
Aurelia
Zegana
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As Ogrefoot stated, the charms are missing the Simic and you have included the new art for the Gruul Signet as a charm.
Ditto the Dimir "Charm" shown here- it's the Signet.
I'm almost certain the last image on this page is Dimir Charm;
While it doesn't look the least bit portable, it is done by Zoltan Boros,
who did all the Charm art in RtR.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
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Ditto the Dimir "Charm" shown here- it's the Signet.
I'm almost certain the last image on this page is Dimir Charm;
While it doesn't look the least bit portable, it is done by Zoltan Boros,
who did all the Charm art in RtR.
I don't think that's the charm. It looks like a building roof, and it's not really the right style for a charm (it's a very rough shape of the symbol). I checked all these with Barinellos, who I really respect in regards to storyline, and we both agreed on Dimir. Feel free to argue it though.
I don't think that's the charm. It looks like a building roof, and it's not really the right style for a charm (it's a very rough shape of the symbol). I checked all these with Barinellos, who I really respect in regards to storyline, and we both agreed on Dimir. Feel free to argue it though.
Well, FWIW, the art you have up for Dimir Charm is by Raoul Vitale,
who did the art we now know for a fact are Izzet Signet and Golgari Signet.
And as I mentioned before, they seem to have Zoltan Boros doing all the Charm art.
I'm not 100% certain that art I pointed to is Dimir Charm
(I agree that the art style is very different from the others,
but I see no better options among the art we have, especially not by Zoltan Boros),
but I'm 99.9% sure the art posted in this thread is actually Dimir Signet.
You also might want to ask Tonda,
as I believe he did some number-crunching with the spoiled art that correctly identified all the GTC Shockland art.
He also grouped the Signets and Charms.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
CAN PROBABLY GO UNDER THUNDERMAW'S "MORE ART"
Have you guys looked through the various Ravnica Achievement art on the Planeswalker Points site?
Some of the 'homeless' ones might be upcoming cards in GTC or DGM - i.e. this one from Daniel Ljunggren is not currently assigned to any card (very large):
So.. If this is legit, it look's like we might have a very early leak of some of the upcoming Gatecrash cards. (And there may be a Gruul-aligned planeswalker by the name of Domri Rade?)
Since this was made before the inconsistency in our rules was pointed out, there's no warning. But I've removed the Sioux Falls Craigslist link. -TK
Sorry about that TK, here though are some photos of the "alleged" GTC Mythics, in the almighty spoiler box ofcourse.
I personally prefer 75 islands. There is nothing than the look on your opponents face once they start trying to play around your counter magic and you know you're sitting on a deck full of islands and nothing else.
It also allows you to board in 15 cards and completely mess with their head between the boarded games.
So is it safe to assume that there will also be basic lands in this set as the art would showcase the other 5 guilds? Also it seems as if we may know the names of the other guildmages as the ability land in old ravnica links itself to each guildmage (Skarrg, Rix Maadi, Prav, Vitu Ghazi, Nivix.)
So is it safe to assume that there will also be basic lands in this set as the art would showcase the other 5 guilds? Also it seems as if we may know the names of the other guildmages as the ability land in old ravnica links itself to each guildmage (Skarrg, Rix Maadi, Prav, Vitu Ghazi, Nivix.)
I don't think the RTR basic land art really showcases particular guilds. In particular, the reason there are 5 of each in RTR rather than 4 isn't because of the 5 guilds; it's because they wanted to bring back one of each basic land from the original Ravnica.
In any case, GTC won't have basic lands; you can tell from the card counts. RTR, including its 25 basic lands, had 274 cards; while GTC has 249 cards. I.e., the same size as RTR but without the basic lands.
MaRo confirmed during RTR previews that the difference between the two set sizes was due to basic lands, which caused many of us to be confused because normally there's only 20 basics.
tl;dr There's no basic lands.
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So is it safe to assume that there will also be basic lands in this set as the art would showcase the other 5 guilds? Also it seems as if we may know the names of the other guildmages as the ability land in old ravnica links itself to each guildmage (Skarrg, Rix Maadi, Prav, Vitu Ghazi, Nivix.)
ya the guildmage thing is covered in the [GTC] Name & Number crunch... they were also at PAX w/ lots of photos floating around
However, is it important that he says "it's a Return to Ravnica thing" rather than "it's only a Return to Ravnica thing?"
FUUUUUUUU-
dammit, you just ruined my day, MaRo!
Hopefully you made at least one new (U/G) one-drop!
Also, thanks for finding the proof, Pulse, even if it's news I despise.
Maybe it should be added to the main post so it becomes more common knowledge?
Grrrr... Gatecrash better have some really cool stuff to make up for these incomplete cycles.
At this point, I'm heavily resenting they saved my favorite guilds (Simic, Dimir, Orzhov, Boros) for the second set
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
I personally prefer 75 islands. There is nothing than the look on your opponents face once they start trying to play around your counter magic and you know you're sitting on a deck full of islands and nothing else.
It also allows you to board in 15 cards and completely mess with their head between the boarded games.
FUUUUUUUU-
dammit, you just ruined my day, MaRo!
Hopefully you made at least one new (U/G) one-drop!
Also, thanks for finding the proof, Pulse, even if it's news I despise.
Maybe it should be added to the main post so it becomes more common knowledge?
Grrrr... Gatecrash better have some really cool stuff to make up for these incomplete cycles.
At this point, I'm heavily resenting they saved my favorite guilds (Simic, Dimir, Orzhov, Boros) for the second set
Those next mechanics had better be superb. I could get no counter cycle being excluded, but those hybrids are arguably the best cycle in rtr. Mayhaps a cycle of 1 drop hybrid enchants or something will replace them.
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Those next mechanics had better be superb. I could get no counter cycle being excluded, but those hybrids are arguably the best cycle in rtr. Mayhaps a cycle of 1 drop hybrid enchants or something will replace them.
Or maybe they won't be a cycle, in RTR there was the "1 drop hybrid uncomon creature cycle", but even with this cycle, there was others 1 drop hybrid outside of the cycle. So i bet that instead of a closed cycle, GTC will have a non-cyclic 1 drop hybrids. With 1 mana hybrids scattered between rarities and different card types. I just really hope for a good 1 drop for Orzhov...
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Fight for your Guild!
Symbol
Release
Set Name: Gatecrash
Block: Set 2 of 3 in the Return to Ravnica block
Three-Letter Abbreviation: GTC
Twitter Hashtag: #MTGGTC
Number of Cards: 249
Rarity Distribution: Unknown
Release Date: February 1, 2013
Prerelease Events: January 26-27, 2013
Launch Weekend: February 1-4, 2013
Magic Online Release Date: Unknown
Game Day: February 23-24, 2013
Start Previews on Daily MTG: December 31, 2012
Launch Promo: Consuming Abberation :symub:, Foundry Champion :symrw:, Treasury Thrull :symwb:, Rubblehulk :symrg:, Fathom Mage
Buy a Box Promo : Nightveil Specter
Characteristics
Design Team:
Lazav
Ghost Council of Orzhova
Borborygmos
Aurelia
Zegana
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Boros
Dimir
Gruul
Simic
Orzhov
Boros
Dimir
Gruul
Simic
Orzhov
Boros
Dimir
Gruul
Simic
Orzhov
Boros
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Gruul
Simic
Orzhov
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Boros:
And the guild letters you'll be getting on the prerelease:
Thanks to Rivenor for the awesome sig!
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Ditto the Dimir "Charm" shown here- it's the Signet.
I'm almost certain the last image on this page is Dimir Charm;
While it doesn't look the least bit portable, it is done by Zoltan Boros,
who did all the Charm art in RtR.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
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This is the conclusion I and Barinellos came to.
I don't think that's the charm. It looks like a building roof, and it's not really the right style for a charm (it's a very rough shape of the symbol). I checked all these with Barinellos, who I really respect in regards to storyline, and we both agreed on Dimir. Feel free to argue it though.
It will be a new card, like Isperia and Niv-Mizzet were.
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Well, FWIW, the art you have up for Dimir Charm is by Raoul Vitale,
who did the art we now know for a fact are Izzet Signet and Golgari Signet.
And as I mentioned before, they seem to have Zoltan Boros doing all the Charm art.
I'm not 100% certain that art I pointed to is Dimir Charm
(I agree that the art style is very different from the others,
but I see no better options among the art we have, especially not by Zoltan Boros),
but I'm 99.9% sure the art posted in this thread is actually Dimir Signet.
You also might want to ask Tonda,
as I believe he did some number-crunching with the spoiled art that correctly identified all the GTC Shockland art.
He also grouped the Signets and Charms.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Have you guys looked through the various Ravnica Achievement art on the Planeswalker Points site?
Some of the 'homeless' ones might be upcoming cards in GTC or DGM - i.e. this one from Daniel Ljunggren is not currently assigned to any card (very large):
- over 40 casual decks sleeved and ready to go
- EDH: Doran, Doran; Arcanis <3 Artifacts; ROTFLellos; Whistle While You Wort; Scionara, Dragon-san; Mr Mangara Goes to Washington
(with others under construction)
Since this was made before the inconsistency in our rules was pointed out, there's no warning. But I've removed the Sioux Falls Craigslist link. -TK
Sorry about that TK, here though are some photos of the "alleged" GTC Mythics, in the almighty spoiler box ofcourse.
WR We Are Boros RW
kwis on fun decks:
I don't think the RTR basic land art really showcases particular guilds. In particular, the reason there are 5 of each in RTR rather than 4 isn't because of the 5 guilds; it's because they wanted to bring back one of each basic land from the original Ravnica.
In any case, GTC won't have basic lands; you can tell from the card counts. RTR, including its 25 basic lands, had 274 cards; while GTC has 249 cards. I.e., the same size as RTR but without the basic lands.
tl;dr There's no basic lands.
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ya the guildmage thing is covered in the [GTC] Name & Number crunch... they were also at PAX w/ lots of photos floating around
- over 40 casual decks sleeved and ready to go
- EDH: Doran, Doran; Arcanis <3 Artifacts; ROTFLellos; Whistle While You Wort; Scionara, Dragon-san; Mr Mangara Goes to Washington
(with others under construction)
Nevermind. I finally found it:
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/32748492715/was-the-cycle-of-one-drop-hybrids-only-a-return-to
However, is it important that he says "it's a Return to Ravnica thing" rather than "it's only a Return to Ravnica thing?"
FUUUUUUUU-
dammit, you just ruined my day, MaRo!
Hopefully you made at least one new (U/G) one-drop!
Also, thanks for finding the proof, Pulse, even if it's news I despise.
Maybe it should be added to the main post so it becomes more common knowledge?
Grrrr... Gatecrash better have some really cool stuff to make up for these incomplete cycles.
At this point, I'm heavily resenting they saved my favorite guilds (Simic, Dimir, Orzhov, Boros) for the second set
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Commander Grozdan (What I could only presume is a Legendary Creature)
Flamekin (Some sort of Elemental Soldier)
WR We Are Boros RW
kwis on fun decks:
Those next mechanics had better be superb. I could get no counter cycle being excluded, but those hybrids are arguably the best cycle in rtr. Mayhaps a cycle of 1 drop hybrid enchants or something will replace them.
There is buried treasure everywhere...in a graveyard.
Or maybe they won't be a cycle, in RTR there was the "1 drop hybrid uncomon creature cycle", but even with this cycle, there was others 1 drop hybrid outside of the cycle. So i bet that instead of a closed cycle, GTC will have a non-cyclic 1 drop hybrids. With 1 mana hybrids scattered between rarities and different card types. I just really hope for a good 1 drop for Orzhov...
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg%2Fdaily%2Ffeature%2F225
I don' t know how to link the pictures.
interesting I think I actually quite like all the gatecrash guilds.
Pioneer:UR Pheonix
Modern:U Mono U Tron
EDH
GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
Peasant cube: Cards I own
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1137
Both of my guilds in RTR and GTC have their guild leaders instead of guildmages on the packs. That's an interesting turn of events.