MTG Salvation

This list is based off of the AWESOME list by MCR seen here, but with some adjustments and other cards to test, and budget cards. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=548845



44 foils, counting the following foils
1 Altered foil Mystic Remora
1 Miscut Library of Leng
1 signed foil Great Furnace
1 Foil Chinese Talisman of Indulgence
1 Japanese Swan Song

Trinket Mage targets:

• sol ring
  
• Mana vault
  
• Sensei's divining top
  
• Seat of the synod
  
• Great furnace
  
• Vault of whispers
  
• Library of leng

And possibly more. Cant go wrong with deck thinning, and a cheap blocker that grabs ramp, metalcraft, colorfixing, and even draw filtering

This list is about redundancy and power. Ramp out artifacts, play one or two punishment effects, and combo off/hit them with some game ending wheels.Remember, youre a combo deck. You wanna win in 1-2 turns tops, which typically happens turns 5-8. It can wait longer to ensure a good amount of mana sources and wheels and punishment effects are ready. Judging the field is very important to going off. If someone CAN stop you, they will Kgrip or bounce pain effects, or counter your wheels, so redundancy is key.

Unlike other builds, this is built for speed, but not too much speed. In addition, we dont rely on our general. In most cases, he is an overcosted, easily accessable pain effect. Too many other lists rely on him, and him getting tucked will make 10% of their list nearly worthless. He should be used as needed, as he is the one pain source we can count on. He also holds a Cypher'd Whispering Madness pretty well.

An example of what it can do:

Early Build 11/04

Now 11/24

Played two games yesterday. Managed to make 54 red manas by casting Mana Geyser twice, but spent too much time getting UB to recast destroyed pain effects and more efficient wheels for the board state. Did a good number to their life totals, but no avail. Second game, I killed two players with the good ol Pact of Negation+Hive Mind

Threw in Windfall and took out a different cantrip. Considering running more removal, especially of the artifact and enchantment variety. And may consider Tainted Strike to deal with the annoying pillowfort lifegain Oloro decks.

phythesis? Sorry ignoring I spelled that wrong. My only copy is Japanese.

This could win out of nowhere with the right board state. Also tainted strike uf you're going all in to murder everyone in one go.

Added in Echo Mage and Teferi's Puzzle box to help out our wheels, as sometimes I have issues chaining wheels. Puzzle box helps.

Frantic Search and Dark Rit were never nice to see. I do want to add more fast mana, but i also want to keep this consistent and win as early as turn 6-7 through disruption, no earlier.

Updated the list finally. More copymagic, tuck counters when facing voltron generals and other combo generals. In addition, more pain effects, better mana, artifact mana to ensure i can hit metalcraft with molten psyche consistently

Added trinket mage for hitting artifact lands and top/mana vault/sol ring.

Since you're playing Hive Mind and Pact of Negation anyway, I think you can justify playing Slaughter Pact and Pact of the Titan as well.

Quote from 3drinks

Since you're playing Hive Mind and Pact of Negation anyway, I think you can justify playing Slaughter Pact and Pact of the Titan as well.

I've honestly really considered it. However, while Slaughter pact could merit a slot (the flex slots are tight), pact of the titan does nothing on its own.

Hive mind lets me chain more wheels, except THEY cast them, which makes it an insane enabler.

Pact of Negation helps protect my combo turn. and together they can do both, and murder at the same time.

Thanks for the heads up. I'll be considering it!

I wouldn't say R Pact doesn't do anything - it's a surprise blocker or a 4/4 with flash. Less relevant than the other two? Sure. But still playable.

Slaughter Pact could slot over some removal you have in the deck. It just so happens to pull double duty with the Hive Mind.

Quote from 3drinks

I wouldn't say R Pact doesn't do anything - it's a surprise blocker or a 4/4 with flash. Less relevant than the other two? Sure. But still playable.

Slaughter Pact could slot over some removal you have in the deck. It just so happens to pull double duty with the Hive Mind.

Slaughter could yes. I own one...somewhere...

However your first point...if i dont see or cannot get hive mind, it is essentially a dead slot. It really is going to be most of the time. I will test slaughter soon

Swapped twincast for copy enchantment. Finding it harder to stick 1-2 pain effects, especially non-symmetrical ones. So trying this for now

Swapped Ad nauseam for Insidious Dreams. Its an infinitely better draw spell.ID allows me to, EOT setup a wheel win with fast ramp, wheels, and library of leng


Added a game report where i went off turn 5, according to my memory. Might have truely been 6, but it was a good clean finish and showcases this deck's power.

Looking to make room for the following

• otherworldly atlas
  
• Slaughter pact

All are combo pieces with hive mind and or mind over matter. Mostly looking to include the atlas and insiduous dreams most of all. Atlas is more temple bell draw, a rattlesnake, and combos with MoM.

Took out copy enchantment and echo mage for dread for the mind over matter combo and as a rattlesnake if nothing else. Also added drift of phantasm because it hits more relevant targets. (Like wheels, pain effects, etc)

Did a practice hand and turn 6-7 i hit nekusar, wheel and insidious dreams in hand. Eot dreams for yawg will and mana geyser. Go off, yawg will, do it all again, and end up doing 73 damage to the entire table

I don't see copy enchantment in your list D:

Quote from HarlequinsCrest

I don't see copy enchantment in your list D:

Lol my previous post said i took it out. I might add it back in. Im trying to get a feel for the right amount of mana rocks vs. Redundancy of wheel/pain effects. Its tough.

Great list. Looks like you have Underworld Dreams listed twice. What card should it be?

Fixed up the list.

• Otherworldly Atlas
  
• Into the Roil

come in. Still looking for a Boseiju for this deck. Might just proxy for the time being.

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• sulferous springs
  
• Darksteel plate

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• turnabout
  
• Graven cairns

Turnabout gets me infinite mana. Much better than protecting my general or pain.effects from wraths. And a better land for BR

Cast Turnabout choosing lands. Cast Reiterate with the buyback copying Turnabout. Let the copy resolve. Cast Reiterate again, repeat.

-thran dynamo
+mystic remora

Cheap card advantage is what i am missing. Too much redundancy and not enough card advantage. Working on that. Also looking at removing K parasite and others for stuff like lilliana's caress.

In addition, i need to add in glacial chasm and expedition map.

Since you have some really important 6cc's in your deck, why not find a cut for Ethereal Usher?

It's a really strong budget tutor and would up your game a lot when you have a chance to go Hive Mind combo (ie times when you have black/blue pact).

testing a singleton infect piece. Still testing other cards before I try out more infect, Ethereal Usher, or more removal.

Updated the list for BotG, as well as some cards to playtest. Mostly replaced cantrips with more pain effects, and removed shuffle for discard. In addition, I am finding I really like the list as it is, as it's fairly easy to win with iy now, even through disruption. The next step is ensuring I hit mana rocks and land, as that is my only issue.

Quote from Burks1

What's the point of using Ertai's Meddling instead of a normal counter? I thought u could delay the Commander or something, but the oracle text says, the target gets exiled like Delay.

I'm hoping to replace it with a Delay! Meddling has the rare ability to exile it longer, but I've never had that be a thing.

Removed :

• everlasting torment
  
• Tainted strike
  
• Breathstealer's crypt
  
• Evacuation
  
• Ertai's Meddling
  
• Spell crumple

• damnation
  
• Decree of pain
  
• Crawlspace
  
• Megrim
  
• Leyline of the void
  
• Leyline of anticipation

Thanks for the help DementedKirby!

Got 4 more foils for the deck! Including a Blasphemous Act, which replaces Decree of Pain. Decree could make a comeback. An early mana geyser+hardcased decree is serious CA!

foils i have now:
Drowned catacombs
Blasphemous act
Fate unraveler
Kederkt parasite

Another foil! Dragonskull summit!