Alright then, time for me to claim, I suppose. I've already said the flavor (or lack thereof) of my role, the ability I have (other than talking) is to have all killing abilities redirected to me for one period. Since no one died that night, I'm willing to assume that Ged successfully protected me.
That said, I'm going to Vote Jobie. I was suspicious of him before, especially since he's not acting anything like he does in a town game, and then he "happened" to inspect the same person that ZDS did.
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Alright then, time for me to claim, I suppose. I've already said the flavor (or lack thereof) of my role, the ability I have (other than talking) is to have all killing abilities redirected to me for one period. Since no one died that night, I'm willing to assume that Ged successfully protected me.
That said, I'm going to Vote Jobie. I was suspicious of him before, especially since he's not acting anything like he does in a town game, and then he "happened" to inspect the same person that ZDS did.
Why would he protect you if you hadn't claimed yet, sutherlands?
Why?
Why aren't you dead?
Because you and Ged are the remaining mafias. It's pretty painfully obvious at this point.
That last post of yours plus Ged's fake hammer on the Night thread have completely convinced me.
Jobie is acting exactly as he does in ANY game, which is serially lurk. I think he's town.
Seriously, in the IRC Mafia game I replaced out of on WIFOM, my role name was "Jobie, the Serial Lurker".
So yeah, Unvote, Vote Sutherlands. I'm completely happy to lynch either him or ged at this point - and noone else. Lets see if we can have this beast of a game finished within 24 hours.
Do you even read the thread WoD? Was part of being blocked that you couldn't even look? I am "masons" with CP. CP and I told each other our abilities at the beginning of the game (or at least he and LFR did). CP has proven his ability that is pro-town. Yesterday, after saying I was suspicious of Ged and ZDS, I said I had a way to prove whether Ged was town or not. This way was to have him protect me, which he agreed to. Since there was no mafia kill, either: a) the mafia didn't turn in a kill, or b) the kill was redirected to me and Ged protected me. 'a' is highly unlikely since there was so much time for the mafia to get their choice in, unless they knew what was going on... which I doubt.
Here's a more likely scenario than the one you describe: CP and I are masons and have demonstrated our abilities. Ged is a doctor and protected me. Jobie is a mafia, and cpe blocked you because he thought it was possible you were mafia.
If anyone votes for me over you or Jobie I will be extremely frustrated...
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Aaargh, I can't keep up with you people. Suth is cleared, you guys, unless you want to suppose that Ged and Suth cooked up both their false claims on Day 1, and managed to look completely consistent about them for the whole game. I just don't buy it. That takes too much luck to be a plan they thought would pan out that early in the game.
I suppose, actually, thinking about it, that Ged could be scum. A doc is fairly logical as an early false claim. But Suth planning his role around that even before Ged was forced to claim seems enormously unlikely, let alone the fact that Suth has managed to be completely consistent about it. I suppose I'd be willing to go after Ged, but Suth is not scum. It's just too much to swallow.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
The only scenerio where Suth could be lying is if this game screwed up enough to give mafia the role that he has. Admittedly it is, but I still trust him.
@SG: You said you will full claim yesterday. As I recall, you haven't done do.
@Ged: Just humor me, who did you protect last night? I want to hear it from your mouth.
@Suth: If you redirected all the kills to you last night, wouldn't you already know that it worked if you are still alive last night? Why must you only know when day arrives?
Dagger: It's an alphabetical shift in which each letter is moved forward in the alphabet 1 2 3 1 2 3... places sequentially, the count of a waltz. It reads (with spaces and punctuation added) "I'm John McCain. My win condition and alignment are unknown. No abilities."
For clarification- an A can be represented by either a B, C, or D, depending on where it is located.
Anyway, I suppose I can agree with a Ged lynch. I've sort of given up trying to analyze this game. At this point I don't think I'm going to have a way to win by the end of this anyway.
As I said last night, I protected Sutherlands for the period of last night. I didn't protect anyone for the period of today because I didn't have any protection points left.
@Suth: If you redirected all the kills to you last night, wouldn't you already know that it worked if you are still alive last night? Why must you only know when day arrives?
I just wanted to wait until the period was over because we've been having delayed kills. As such, I didn't know if the kill had already gone through (at the beginning of the period like normal) or if I would have to wait to block it... or both.
To anyone who is wanting to vote for Ged: Why? Which part of this don't you believe:
1) Ged said he protected me yesterday
2) I redirected all kills to myself
3) I didn't die, so Ged must be the doctor
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Simul-post with Suth makes my third double post of the day...
It occurs to me that it's more than likely ZDS could have impersonated Cubus and given me the message that's caused so much confusion around my end of this game.
Ged: I agree, I was just thinking about that. I'm the one that Bertrand sent his message to when he died. What was the flavor of yours again? Mine was that someone came into my room and told me something... then I woke up from that dream.
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I get an odd, unsupported request about once a period.
Alright, so, as I said, the twice roles are mine. I am Arthur Craig and my role basically functions like this:
*Xyre roles a dice at the beginning of each period (he forgets a lot) equal to the number to lynch.
*A half of the number he rolls rounded up is the number votes I have.
*The number he rolls is the number required to lynch me.
Well, I actually think that ZDSscum could have also faked CP's investigation results...but let's put that aside for now
Wait, what? You can't just throw that out there and then say you don't want to talk about it. Maybe you forgot that we already had a town illusionist and we know exactly how his ability worked? Maybe you failed to notice that we already have a claim that ZDS likely used his ability on Ged, which is by far the most likely explanation for the whole stupid cult thing?
Seriously, are you pitting the likelihood that there is a second cult in this game against the likelihood that I'm just telling the truth? Maybe you could actually think for a bit before making outrageous comments like this.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
Jobie is at 3 votes currently. Someone else confirms this.
It pretty much boils down to him anyway after all things considered and accounted for.
If Jobie is scum, feel free to lynch MS tonight. I agree with Ged's assessment that it's most likely we are a town/scum pair. And so far, I have yet to see proof of MS' claim in effect.
@Ged: Did you receive any other message last night akin to the one from 'Cubus'?
Jobie is at 3 votes currently. Someone else confirms this.
It pretty much boils down to him anyway after all things considered and accounted for.
If Jobie is scum, feel free to lynch MS tonight. I agree with Ged's assessment that it's most likely we are a town/scum pair. And so far, I have yet to see proof of MS' claim in effect.
@Ged: Did you receive any other message last night akin to the one from 'Cubus'?
I still have the ability to confirm my ability... so why lynch me without allowing me to confirm it? I missed the last cycle because of the quick hammer and I was out of town (I know, I didn't notify you guys, my bad)
Vote: Ged, I'm still suspicious of you due to your targeting Cubus. I just can't find a logical reason to do this, especially with so many other townie choices out there at the time.
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Well then, just for information's sake, I redirected ZDS' action to Ged yesterday since he claimed bodyguard. When ZDS was revealed as the scum and there was no kill, I thought Ged was protecting himself so that the kill was negated.
What Suth claimed makes sense though, and most likely ZDS wasn't doing anything since Ged didn't receive anything.
Yes, it means nothing to me. We have 10 people alive (including Cubus). The only people I'm willing to vote for today are you and WoD. Besides your absolutely scummy play and lurking, you're a 2-shot watcher?
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Jobie probably is our best play. Actually speed-lynching is probably our best play, if past experience has been any indication. In addition to the night Suth used his ability, both times the lynch has happened unexpectedly, there haven't been any kills. If everyone just votes, maybe we won't give the mafia time to get in another kill?
Actually, ironically, the fact that Jobie wasn't around last day is a point against him: the scum wouldn't have chosen to miss a kill if they had been around, so it's likely that they weren't.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
Even if he isn't scum, his play in itself is more than enough reason to have him killed.
Suth, what is scummy about discovering that dagger's redirection makes ZDS' action almost certainly target Ged (and thus to high degree validate claims of illusionish foul-play) makes Ged decidedly less-scummy, and thus requires an unvote?
Just because I disagree with YOU, doesn't make ME scum.
Suth, what is scummy about discovering that dagger's redirection makes ZDS' action almost certainly target Ged (and thus to high degree validate claims of illusionish foul-play) makes Ged decidedly less-scummy, and thus requires an unvote?
Ged protected me and I didn't die even though all kills for that period were aimed at me. What part of that don't you understand?
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(1 to lynch SorryGuy)
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Sutherlands - 1 (Wrath of Dog)
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The town gathers around and immediately decides the best course of action is our good friend Mr. Jobie McLurkster. They start putting the noose around his neck when he suddenly shouts, "SorryGuy!"
The town stares at him in unison and shrugs. "No matter, you're still going to die." They turn around and stare at SorryGuy. "Right?"
He blinks once and says the phrase that has encapsulated everyone's perspective on what's going on: "Oh ****."
He starts to run from the room, but as if summoned by Jobie's shout, a masked man steps from the crowd and blocks SorryGuy's way. In a deep, staccato voice, he says to him, "You have a debt to pay." And he quickly reaches out, grabs the sides of SorryGuy's head, and with a violent motion, snaps his neck. SorryGuy goes down in a heap.
The town is silent for a moment. Then halfway-to-being-lynched Jobie clears his throat. "Could someone get this off of me?"
SorryGuy, Arthur Craig, the Unlucky Gambler - Town Gambler, has been lynched.
You all return to the main hall, weary and worn. It's been four long days and nights now, and none of you feels he has the strength to endure another. The ring of masked soldiers greets you, but this time, you discover that you don't need to go far to unearth who died.
Ged is lying in the center of the room, with a stake straight through his heart. Around him is a pentagram, in what you all fear is his own blood. The ring of blood glows in an eerie, evil color that makes Sutherlands turn around and give up his dinner. But that isn't the worst part of it.
Next to the symbol and man, in more of his blood, is a message that reminds you of why you are here: evil never dies.
The fifth day begins.
Ged, Dr. Paul Hallow, the Worn-Down Doctor - Town Doctor, has been killed.
That said, I'm going to Vote Jobie. I was suspicious of him before, especially since he's not acting anything like he does in a town game, and then he "happened" to inspect the same person that ZDS did.
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Uh, yeah...
Why would he protect you if you hadn't claimed yet, sutherlands?
Why?
Why aren't you dead?
Because you and Ged are the remaining mafias. It's pretty painfully obvious at this point.
That last post of yours plus Ged's fake hammer on the Night thread have completely convinced me.
Jobie is acting exactly as he does in ANY game, which is serially lurk. I think he's town.
Seriously, in the IRC Mafia game I replaced out of on WIFOM, my role name was "Jobie, the Serial Lurker".
So yeah, Unvote, Vote Sutherlands. I'm completely happy to lynch either him or ged at this point - and noone else. Lets see if we can have this beast of a game finished within 24 hours.
And yeah, I didn't recruit ZDS. Obviously. * Wrath_of_DoG bursts out laughing.
Here's a more likely scenario than the one you describe: CP and I are masons and have demonstrated our abilities. Ged is a doctor and protected me. Jobie is a mafia, and cpe blocked you because he thought it was possible you were mafia.
If anyone votes for me over you or Jobie I will be extremely frustrated...
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I suppose, actually, thinking about it, that Ged could be scum. A doc is fairly logical as an early false claim. But Suth planning his role around that even before Ged was forced to claim seems enormously unlikely, let alone the fact that Suth has managed to be completely consistent about it. I suppose I'd be willing to go after Ged, but Suth is not scum. It's just too much to swallow.
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The only scenerio where Suth could be lying is if this game screwed up enough to give mafia the role that he has. Admittedly it is, but I still trust him.
Vote Jobie.
@Ged: Just humor me, who did you protect last night? I want to hear it from your mouth.
@Suth: If you redirected all the kills to you last night, wouldn't you already know that it worked if you are still alive last night? Why must you only know when day arrives?
@Wuffles: You still have no WC?
@Chimp: What does this mean?
@WoD: Why did you manage to get a post in before you were roleblocked yesterday?
@Jobie: Did you use your claimed ability again?
@Everyone: What does an Illusionist do?
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Anyway, I suppose I can agree with a Ged lynch. I've sort of given up trying to analyze this game. At this point I don't think I'm going to have a way to win by the end of this anyway.
3CB and 4CB5CB!SG: I'm also 'interested'.
Something else just occurred to me. It'd be quite easy to fake Sutherland's role. There's this thing called no-killing...
I just wanted to wait until the period was over because we've been having delayed kills. As such, I didn't know if the kill had already gone through (at the beginning of the period like normal) or if I would have to wait to block it... or both.
To anyone who is wanting to vote for Ged: Why? Which part of this don't you believe:
1) Ged said he protected me yesterday
2) I redirected all kills to myself
3) I didn't die, so Ged must be the doctor
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I agree, which is why if I wouldn't have been talking to my mason, I would still tell people to be worried about me.
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Just want to ask again, does anyone know what does an Illusionist do? As in ZDS' role?
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I think Illusionist is probably just a flavorful term.
Anyone want to claim all these die rolls, by the way?
They are mine. Are people still interested in me full claiming?
Ooooh.
Oh.
Simul-post with Suth makes my third double post of the day...
It occurs to me that it's more than likely ZDS could have impersonated Cubus and given me the message that's caused so much confusion around my end of this game.
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I believe people have asked you to before. Everyone else has. Please do.
I get an odd, unsupported request about once a period.
Alright, so, as I said, the twice roles are mine. I am Arthur Craig and my role basically functions like this:
*Xyre roles a dice at the beginning of each period (he forgets a lot) equal to the number to lynch.
*A half of the number he rolls rounded up is the number votes I have.
*The number he rolls is the number required to lynch me.
I have been extremely unlucky.
Um. No one vote for SorryGuy plzkthnx.
This is why I have mentioned in the past multiple times that voting for me will be considered provocation against the town.
Vote Ged.
Wait, what? You can't just throw that out there and then say you don't want to talk about it. Maybe you forgot that we already had a town illusionist and we know exactly how his ability worked? Maybe you failed to notice that we already have a claim that ZDS likely used his ability on Ged, which is by far the most likely explanation for the whole stupid cult thing?
Seriously, are you pitting the likelihood that there is a second cult in this game against the likelihood that I'm just telling the truth? Maybe you could actually think for a bit before making outrageous comments like this.
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Jobie is at 3 votes currently. Someone else confirms this.
It pretty much boils down to him anyway after all things considered and accounted for.
If Jobie is scum, feel free to lynch MS tonight. I agree with Ged's assessment that it's most likely we are a town/scum pair. And so far, I have yet to see proof of MS' claim in effect.
@Ged: Did you receive any other message last night akin to the one from 'Cubus'?
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I still have the ability to confirm my ability... so why lynch me without allowing me to confirm it? I missed the last cycle because of the quick hammer and I was out of town (I know, I didn't notify you guys, my bad)
Vote: Ged, I'm still suspicious of you due to your targeting Cubus. I just can't find a logical reason to do this, especially with so many other townie choices out there at the time.
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Also, Ged should also have 3 votes. Someone else confirms this.
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Can someone rehash the case against me now that I know I'm not part of a cult?
What Suth claimed makes sense though, and most likely ZDS wasn't doing anything since Ged didn't receive anything.
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Unvote.
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Ummm... does the fact that I still have 1-shot left mean nothing to you?
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Actually, ironically, the fact that Jobie wasn't around last day is a point against him: the scum wouldn't have chosen to miss a kill if they had been around, so it's likely that they weren't.
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Even if he isn't scum, his play in itself is more than enough reason to have him killed.
Suth, what is scummy about discovering that dagger's redirection makes ZDS' action almost certainly target Ged (and thus to high degree validate claims of illusionish foul-play) makes Ged decidedly less-scummy, and thus requires an unvote?
Just because I disagree with YOU, doesn't make ME scum.
I don't think Ged sent any message last night and that doesn't validate anything.
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(1 to lynch SorryGuy)
Jobie - 5 (Sutherlands, Ged, Dagger, carrion pigeons, Wuffles II)
Sutherlands - 1 (Wrath of Dog)
Ged - 1 (SorryGuy)
SorryGuy - 1 (Jobie)
The town gathers around and immediately decides the best course of action is our good friend Mr. Jobie McLurkster. They start putting the noose around his neck when he suddenly shouts, "SorryGuy!"
The town stares at him in unison and shrugs. "No matter, you're still going to die." They turn around and stare at SorryGuy. "Right?"
He blinks once and says the phrase that has encapsulated everyone's perspective on what's going on: "Oh ****."
He starts to run from the room, but as if summoned by Jobie's shout, a masked man steps from the crowd and blocks SorryGuy's way. In a deep, staccato voice, he says to him, "You have a debt to pay." And he quickly reaches out, grabs the sides of SorryGuy's head, and with a violent motion, snaps his neck. SorryGuy goes down in a heap.
The town is silent for a moment. Then halfway-to-being-lynched Jobie clears his throat. "Could someone get this off of me?"
SorryGuy, Arthur Craig, the Unlucky Gambler - Town Gambler, has been lynched.
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Ged is lying in the center of the room, with a stake straight through his heart. Around him is a pentagram, in what you all fear is his own blood. The ring of blood glows in an eerie, evil color that makes Sutherlands turn around and give up his dinner. But that isn't the worst part of it.
Next to the symbol and man, in more of his blood, is a message that reminds you of why you are here: evil never dies.
The fifth day begins.
Ged, Dr. Paul Hallow, the Worn-Down Doctor - Town Doctor, has been killed.
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