[MOR] 3 Cards from Lotus Noir Magazine

[ArKaiN]

So now they just design really bad treefolk with gargantuan toughness for the interaction with Doran? That's so dumb.
Rageshaper might be decent is we get some more shamen(?)
The elf isn't better than Troll.

[urzassedatives]

Wait a second...

Is a vanilla 2/10 creature REALLY a rare?
That is what the scan seems to say.

[Kr@cked]

Originally Posted by urzassedatives

Wait a second...

Is a vanilla 2/10 creature REALLY a rare?
That is what the scan seems to say.

Yep. It's a rare. Another rare to be despised, since it's only +1/+1 from Kami of Old Stone...and that was a COMMON. *sighs*

[Phil Bowles]

[quote]

Originally Posted by KOV

http://www.magiccorporation.com/gath...60.html#869792

A member of the website where i'm modo sent us cards from the last Lotus Noir



In the order

Winnover Patrol 2G
Creature - Elf Warrior
Kinship - At the beginning of your upkeep, you may look at the top card of your library. If it shares a creature type with Winnover Patrol, you may reveal it. If you do, put a +1/+1 counter on Winnover Patrol.
3/2

Rageshaper 2R
Creature - Elemental Shaman
When Rageshaper comes into play, put a counter +1/+1 on each other Shaman creature.
Whenever a creature you control with a +1/+1 counter attacks, you may have this creature deals one damage to target player
2/2

I think this settles the argument about whether or not Morningtide has a +1/+1 counter theme... Rageshaper is clearly the Elemental counterpart to Sage of Fables, which tells us that (a) these cards will work differently across the cycle, and (b) Shamans are indeed red-based, contrary to speculation based on the colours of precon decks. I think it's a nice card - both Flamekin Harbinger and Smokebraider are Shamans, and you can start dealing serious damage before combat damage is resolved if this isn't killed.

2G for 3/2 with a middling-power ability is standard for green these days, though mostly on rares, which I doubt this is - do we have rarities on these cards? It's a weaker effect than the token maker and no one's going to let it get big enough to be dangerous (it's even slower than Taurean Mauler), so I have to give this one a thumbs down. Boo on the name as well - flavourwise, Winnowers ought to have deathtouch.

Indomitable Elders 2WW
Creature - Treefolk Warrior
(Yes, it's a vanilla creature)
2/10

Hmm, this one's odd. I actually quite like it - I like 'gap filler' vanillas that haven't been done, for all that 2/10 is hardly a stat that's ever been in demand. It's a pretty efficient wall at that, though even in Limited may have difficulty making the cut.

Phil

[Radical Serbian]

Originally Posted by urzassedatives

Wait a second...

Is a vanilla 2/10 creature REALLY a rare?
That is what the scan seems to say.

That's excatly what I thought. There is no way, with the current level of power that they are producing as rares in the LOR and MOR, that this would be a rare. Sure it can be a big dumb beater IF doran is out. But other than that is a big dumb blocker that can barely kill anything.

[ghostfire]

Originally Posted by urzassedatives

Wait a second...

Is a vanilla 2/10 creature REALLY a rare?
That is what the scan seems to say.

It definately looks like a rare, that is very unusual indeed, i hope they are not putting loads of vanilla creatures in just to go with muraganda petroglyphs that would be lame.

[limmepie]

Seems like the +1/+1 themed cards are more the lords of the creature classes. At least that's the feeling I get.

[k-dogg]

I really would have liked to see it 2/11 to deal with nova chaser and live. Otherwise, in limited (which is why it's rare, IMO) once you get 6 toughness or more (8 for treefolk thanks to consuming bonfire)it might as well say prevent all damage that would be dealt to ~this~.

[Sigismond0]

Wow, a 10/10 for . Sweet.

And a 15/15 when it gets blocked.

I love treefolk. xD

But really....
T1 Birds of Paradise
T2 Treefolk Harbinger
T3 Indomitable Ancient
T4 Doran, the Siege Tower, Swing for 14
T5 Swing for 19, Unstoppable Ash championing out the Treefolk Harbinger

[WhytePanther]

Originally Posted by Kr@cked

Yep. It's a rare. Another rare to be despised, since it's only +1/+1 from Kami of Old Stone...and that was a COMMON. *sighs*

Kami of Old Stone
It was uncommon, and it was 1/7, so this is +1/+3 over it, for an extra colored mana. It's also a relevant creature type (not like the Kami wasn't or anything though.) I don't like it as a rare, but it's not horrible. Rarity shouldn't have a lot to do with power, but of course it always seems to.

[urzassedatives]

Originally Posted by WhytePanther

Kami of Old Stone
It was uncommon, and it was 1/7, so this is +1/+3 over it, for an extra colored mana. It's also a relevant creature type (not like the Kami wasn't or anything though.) I don't like it as a rare, but it's not horrible. Rarity shouldn't have a lot to do with power, but of course it always seems to.

Its just funny that Lorwyn limited has SO MANY ways to kill/disarm a creature with a huge toughness that it shouldn't matter as much as in other limited environments. (Neck Snap, O-ring, Crib Swap, new Aura in MOR, Weed Strangle, Eyeblight's, Lignify, Shriekmaw...6 commons, 2 uncommons...so far)

I can see the argument to make it a rare, but people aren't going to love it.

[misterorange]

The 2/10 guy is rare? WTF! That makes absolutely no sense. I know it's a unique power and toughness, but again, you look at Kami of Old Stone and this guy...would he really screw up draft that badly at uncommon?

Sigh.

[Ranma]

The only reason I can see that he's a rare is if Doran was out. That seems to be a common theme around all the new treefolks.

[Fats McRobot]

Elves are getting a little silly. I was afraid of Gobs being a problem, but after this, and people's leaning toward elves already... I'm going to need to hose some elves.

I want the 2/10 guy.

Rage shaper slightly annoys me. I never liked Shamans.

[jeaok]

A 2/10 for four mana?? Geez, I actually hope that is a rare, otherwise it'd be too significant in limited. I really look forward to winning a clash on this with weed strangle.