[EDH] Niv Mizzet the Firemind

firebellychangeling · 01-04-2009, 09:47 PM

Ok so heres my list

Deck
General 1 Niv Mizzet the Firemind Creatures 1 Kaho, Minamo Historian 1 Wee Dragonauts 1 Riptide Director 1 Mulldrifter 1 Fallowsage 1 Izzet Chronarch 1 Stonybrook Banneret 1 Shapesharer 1 Silver Myr 1 Venser, Shaper Savant 1 Azami, Lady of the Scrolls 1 Braids, Conjurer Adept 1 Drift of Phantasms 1 Nucklavee 1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker 1 Pestermite 1 Willbender 1 Glen Elendra Archmage 1 Vedalken AEthermage 1 Empress Galina 1 Voidmage Prodigy 1 Iron Myr 1 Vendilion Clique 1 Simian Spirit Guide 1 Darksteel Collosus Enchantments 1 Curiosity 1 Ophidian Eye 1 Arcanum Wings Artifacts 1 Liches Mirror 1 Mana Vault 1 Sol Ring 1 Darksteel Ingot 1 Izzet Signet 1 Chronotog Totem 1 Howling Mine 1 Spellbook 1 Mindstone 1 Chrome Mox 1 Lotus Petal 1 Teferi's Puzzle Box	Instants 1 Muddle the Mixure 1 Mana Leak 1 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Vision Skeins 1 Mnemonic Nexus 1 Electrolyze 1 Sages Dousing 1 Red Elemental Blast 1 Remand 1 Careful Consideration 1 Brainstorm 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Reiterate 1 Flash of Insight 1 Dizzy Spell Sorcerys 1 Earthquake 1 Tinker 1 Trade Secrets 1 Inner Fire 1 Rite of Flame 1 Ponder Land 10 Island 5 mountain 1 Faerie Conclave 1 Vivid Creej 1 Vivid Crag 1 Terramorphic Expanse 1 Academy Ruins 1 Steam Vents 1 Wooded Foothills 1 Mikokoro, Center of the Sea 1 Cephalid Coliseum 1 Izzet Boilerworks 1 Seat of the Synod 1 Shivan Reef 1 Darksteel Citadel 1 City of Brass 1 Tolaria West 1 Polluted Delta 1 Great Furnace 1 Cascade Bluffs

Obvious Subtle Wizard Theme, trick is to play niv the turn your going to combo out,

Here is how i win:

Niv to draw all but 2 cards in my deck, if that doesnt kill them, play all artifact accelerates, play Inner Fire. Have about 65

in mana pool. Play Nucklavee to get it back. Play it with Reiterate 10ish times. 650 Red mana in the pool. Play liches mirror and earthquake FTW. Also Kiki-Pestermite combo for backup.

Comments and Critiques are welcome! Thanks!

Nicol Bolas · 01-05-2009, 12:59 AM

I'll try to look at it again tomorrow, but:
Add

Words of Wisdom
Teferi's Puzzle Box
Dismiss
Words > Vision Skeins
Dismiss > Mana Leak

Cut

Mana Leak
Red Elemental Blast
Why REB?

gilrad · 01-05-2009, 01:30 AM

Pemmin's Aura and Freed from the Real.

I know you already have some game-winning auras in there, but when you need to dig, you need to dig.

NightArcher · 01-05-2009, 01:38 AM

My real question is why do you have tinker? There is pretty much nothing for you to tinker for. Also, Library of Leng > Spellbook

Miamoto · 01-05-2009, 01:41 AM

I'd add more puzzle box effects.

Whirlpool Warrior comes to mind. And who doesn't love Time Spiral

Spellshift and Eye of the Storm let you play all your instants and sorceries squared. It's not quite infinite, but if all of them turn out to be card draw, you'll be doing a lot of damage with Niv out.

I'd also go for the Mana Flare + Palinchron + random X spell combo.

firebellychangeling · 01-05-2009, 01:42 AM

Tinker for DSC is a easy game winner. Like the rest of the suggestions thanks guys! what should i cut for Puzzle Box?

NightArcher · 01-05-2009, 01:46 AM

Oh sorry, i was just looking at the 'artifacts' section, didn't notice the DSC.

Miamoto · 01-05-2009, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firebellychangeling

what should i cut for Puzzle Box?

Kill the Sage of Epityr. What the hell is that guy doing in there? lol

firebellychangeling · 01-05-2009, 01:57 AM

That silly elusive Darksteel Collosus =)

@Nightarcher: Hes a WIZARD! Taps to draw and also early game he is very useful. Also for some strange reason i have a foil chinese one so i am imclined to play it haha. very easily cutable thought.

-1 SoE
+1 Puzzle Box

Anyhoo, i like the Puzzl Box esque cards like the Whirlpool Warrior. (Seems really good with thought reflecton =p). What cards can i cut to squeeze those guys in?

NightArcher · 01-05-2009, 02:08 AM

I wasn't the one that said it

But yeah, Red Elemental Blast might get the axe, um.....

Rite of Flame! I can't see any conceivable reason to keep it in, it's not like you're running it alongside Djinn Illuminatus or something. You might consider the lotus petal too, but that can be alittle more useful, and worst case scenario, it's something to sac to Tinker.

firebellychangeling · 01-05-2009, 02:36 AM

Ok. I had those in so if my niv eye combo doesn't kill all other players with those mana accelers you can play inner fire and see the OP for the wincon. If that's over complicated then I can cut it.

REB counters counters against niv

LegacyDan · 01-05-2009, 01:13 PM

*A cloak person walks up to Niv Mizzet one day

"pst. Hey, man I got something for ya."

* hands over a Quicksilver Dagger

"Try this, you'll love it."

firebellychangeling · 01-05-2009, 02:24 PM

Im not seeing it with dagger. Usually i am never playing niv until the turn i combo out
EG: I play niv, they counter. REB. They terror him. I respond ophidian eye and draw a card through mindstone or something else and combo out. Plus getting 2 for oned and general death is very hard to recover from in a combo deck like this one.

LegacyDan · 01-05-2009, 04:54 PM

hm... ok. what is your usual win turn with the deck? Do you play more 1v1 or multiplayer?

firebellychangeling · 01-05-2009, 05:05 PM

Multiplayer. Generally turn 5-15. You keep a really low profile until you have enough mana, counterbackup and cards to combo off. Also the Kiki-Jiki combo can be online as early as turn 3.

In 1v1, Unfourtuantly, since ATM my build packs no sort of removal and not enough counters to be effiecnt, when fight combo or aggro (Rhys the Redeemed, Doran, Rafiq, ECT) i need to race them to the combo or die. And against counterspells (Dralnu and such) I just die.

01-05-2009, 12:59 AM	#2
Nicol Bolas Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: the Discotheque Posts: 810	I'll try to look at it again tomorrow, but: Add Words of Wisdom Teferi's Puzzle Box Dismiss Words > Vision Skeins Dismiss > Mana Leak Cut Mana Leak Red Elemental Blast Why REB? __________________ Do you like Elder Dragon Highlander? Check out the EDH deck database with more than 150 decks! Cards I'm selling!! Currently playing::

01-05-2009, 01:38 AM	#4
NightArcher My puppet threads weave a web of despair Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: The Middle of Everywhere Posts: 1,324 Blog Entries: 1	My real question is why do you have tinker? There is pretty much nothing for you to tinker for. Also, Library of Leng > Spellbook __________________ MTG Rules Advisor Thanks Zaphod & Highlight Studios for the great sig! Trade with me! + Visit my Music Box! Spoiler: This is MY smilie! IT IS MINE!

01-05-2009, 01:41 AM	#5
Miamoto Ascended Mage Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 473	I'd add more puzzle box effects. Whirlpool Warrior comes to mind. And who doesn't love Time Spiral Spellshift and Eye of the Storm let you play all your instants and sorceries squared. It's not quite infinite, but if all of them turn out to be card draw, you'll be doing a lot of damage with Niv out. I'd also go for the Mana Flare + Palinchron + random X spell combo. __________________ Signature courtesy of Spiderboy4 at High~Light Studios.

01-05-2009, 01:42 AM	#6
firebellychangeling Archmage Overlord Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: walrus city Posts: 1,516	Tinker for DSC is a easy game winner. Like the rest of the suggestions thanks guys! what should i cut for Puzzle Box? __________________

01-05-2009, 01:46 AM	#7
NightArcher My puppet threads weave a web of despair Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: The Middle of Everywhere Posts: 1,324 Blog Entries: 1	Oh sorry, i was just looking at the 'artifacts' section, didn't notice the DSC. __________________ MTG Rules Advisor Thanks Zaphod & Highlight Studios for the great sig! Trade with me! + Visit my Music Box! Spoiler: This is MY smilie! IT IS MINE!


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01-05-2009, 01:30 AM	#3
gilrad Archmage Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 844	Pemmin's Aura and Freed from the Real. I know you already have some game-winning auras in there, but when you need to dig, you need to dig.

01-05-2009, 01:57 AM	#9
firebellychangeling Archmage Overlord Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: walrus city Posts: 1,516	That silly elusive Darksteel Collosus =) @Nightarcher: Hes a WIZARD! Taps to draw and also early game he is very useful. Also for some strange reason i have a foil chinese one so i am imclined to play it haha. very easily cutable thought. -1 SoE +1 Puzzle Box Anyhoo, i like the Puzzl Box esque cards like the Whirlpool Warrior. (Seems really good with thought reflecton =p). What cards can i cut to squeeze those guys in? __________________

01-05-2009, 02:08 AM	#10
NightArcher My puppet threads weave a web of despair Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: The Middle of Everywhere Posts: 1,324 Blog Entries: 1	I wasn't the one that said it But yeah, Red Elemental Blast might get the axe, um..... Rite of Flame! I can't see any conceivable reason to keep it in, it's not like you're running it alongside Djinn Illuminatus or something. You might consider the lotus petal too, but that can be alittle more useful, and worst case scenario, it's something to sac to Tinker. __________________ MTG Rules Advisor Thanks Zaphod & Highlight Studios for the great sig! Trade with me! + Visit my Music Box! Spoiler: This is MY smilie! IT IS MINE!

01-05-2009, 02:36 AM	#11
firebellychangeling Archmage Overlord Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: walrus city Posts: 1,516	Ok. I had those in so if my niv eye combo doesn't kill all other players with those mana accelers you can play inner fire and see the OP for the wincon. If that's over complicated then I can cut it. REB counters counters against niv __________________

01-05-2009, 01:13 PM	#12
LegacyDan Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Garfield Hts (Cleveland, Ohio) Posts: 424	A cloak person walks up to Niv Mizzet one day "pst. Hey, man I got something for ya." hands over a Quicksilver Dagger "Try this, you'll love it." __________________ Suspension End: March 1st, 2010 10pm. LegacyDan's trade thread Casaul Deck Musophobia (mono black rats) Legacy Decks undecided Moonshine EDH deck Chainer, My worst Nightmare? Numot, Lord of the Attacks Zur

01-05-2009, 02:24 PM	#13
firebellychangeling Archmage Overlord Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: walrus city Posts: 1,516	Im not seeing it with dagger. Usually i am never playing niv until the turn i combo out EG: I play niv, they counter. REB. They terror him. I respond ophidian eye and draw a card through mindstone or something else and combo out. Plus getting 2 for oned and general death is very hard to recover from in a combo deck like this one. __________________

01-05-2009, 04:54 PM	#14
LegacyDan Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Garfield Hts (Cleveland, Ohio) Posts: 424	hm... ok. what is your usual win turn with the deck? Do you play more 1v1 or multiplayer? __________________ Suspension End: March 1st, 2010 10pm. LegacyDan's trade thread Casaul Deck Musophobia (mono black rats) Legacy Decks undecided Moonshine EDH deck Chainer, My worst Nightmare? Numot, Lord of the Attacks Zur

01-05-2009, 05:05 PM	#15
firebellychangeling Archmage Overlord Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: walrus city Posts: 1,516	Multiplayer. Generally turn 5-15. You keep a really low profile until you have enough mana, counterbackup and cards to combo off. Also the Kiki-Jiki combo can be online as early as turn 3. In 1v1, Unfourtuantly, since ATM my build packs no sort of removal and not enough counters to be effiecnt, when fight combo or aggro (Rhys the Redeemed, Doran, Rafiq, ECT) i need to race them to the combo or die. And against counterspells (Dralnu and such) I just die. __________________

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