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Old 04-20-2009, 10:16 AM   #16
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The counter would've been awesome at wu/2/2, and excellent at 1wu/3/3. As it is, it's playable, but not spectacular. The rest is ''meh''.
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Nope. Progenitus has protection from enchantments (and Auras for that matter) so nothing can enchant it.
Gotcha. Still, it's cool to have a variation of Zur that can do over cmc3, even if it's just Auras.
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I wouldn't write off the snake. At its worst it gets bigger each of your turns. But with cycling and GU's natural card drawing prowess, it can get pretty big pretty fast. So that makes it decent for limited at least and I can see some casual Johnny trying to see just how huge he can make it.

Consistent, free +1/+1 counters are usable. Perhaps not abusable, but still.
He is my favorite of this batch. A solid 3 drop for limited. Wargate feels like Chord of Calling except boring.

Mikey, please put mana tags in your post.
I'll add these to the spoiler.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:19 AM   #19
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Nope. Progenitus has protection from enchantments (and Auras for that matter) so nothing can enchant it.
don't forget that he also has protection from all colors so even if it was placed on him it'd just fall off.

Wargate is like a more perfect Chord of calling! I love it!
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Hey, it's two for a 5/5 with doran. Sarnath'd

There honestly are no bad cards in this set. My sealed deck is going to be all ARB with like 2 ALA cards.
You'd have to get some great mana fixing to make that work :P

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Edit and the counterspell is essentially worse than cryptic but i like it nonetheless. Probably constructed playable in some decks?
I don't really know what, though, I guess. In the early game it can't be played, mid game Cryptic already exists, late game it's Broken Ambitions at X = 4, essentially.

Perhaps, though, against Red? Then the life gain is relevant, and the deck typically doesn't have 4 extra mana to throw around.
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"Wisescale Serpent" looks like it could have some potential in Vintage/Legacy Fish. Too bad it wasn't one mana less; if it was only one mana less, it could have been the new Quirion Dryad.
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Gotcha. Still, it's cool to have a variation of Zur that can do over cmc3, even if it's just Auras.

I liked zur coz it fetches me oblivion ring,pillory of the sleepless,pacifism etc etc

now u can search for steel of the godhead in bant colors and clout of the dominus or runes of the deus in some 5c shenanigans.deck
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Awesome card for Zur EDH. Does it allow auras to be placed on Zur even though he has shroud, or is this different than Zur/Enduring Ideal/others?

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Instant (C)
Counter target spell unless its controller pays 4. You gain 4 life.
Okay. I'd usually rather have Punish Ignorance to do this sort of thing, but it's a solid common.

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Creature - Snake (U)
Whenever you draw a card, you may put a +1/+1 counter on ~.
2/2
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Whenever a creature you control attacks alone, you may search your library for an Aura card that can enchant it and put it into play attached to that creature. If you do, shuffle your library afterwards.
4/5
Sounds like fun with Uril or Finest Hour or Epic Proportions. Not great though.

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"Wargate" XGWU
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Search your library for a permanent card with converted mana cost X or less and put it into play. Shuffle your library.
Bleh. 5 mana to get that meddling mage when you really need it? Beseech the Queen seems more viable, and that doesn't really see play.

Would've been better as a mythic:

Wargate 2gwu
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xuw, t: Search your library for a permanent card with converted mana cost x or less and put it into play. Shuffle your library. [edit: Play this ability only when you could play a sorcery?]
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:34 AM   #25
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Hold on a minute, we've got a xwug spell here and we already had an xbrg. Does is anyone else thinking cycle of X shard cards?
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I like this one, even tough it is probably too costly for tournament play. It is very close to being a hard counter and the 4 life is not trivial. Might be worthwhile to test in an aggro uw deck especially after the rotation, but I would not get my hopes up for it. There is so much good stuff to cast at 4 cc and not enough slots for it.

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Same total stats as a watchwolf but distributed differently. While watchwolf is obviously better and there is much competition of other gw weenies, I would not count this card out. It is very hard to kill with burn and in combat with most smaller creatures (with the exception of deathtouch). It is unkillable by firespout and volcanic fallout. The things that do kill it tend do cost the same amount of mana or more (terror agony warp, oblivion ring) with the exception of path but if they path your 2cc creature you are in good shape. It is an excellent creature to carry all those exalted bonusses (boni?) to combat. While not overly exciting do not count his one out yet.

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"Wisescale Serpent" 1GU
Creature - Snake (U)
Whenever you draw a card, you may put a +1/+1 counter on ~.
2/2
Excellent card. It is a 3/3 for the first attack, and will grow one counter each of your turns the least. With ug having so much card drawing it could end up gaining a lot more. The only problem is that there is so much good stuff in it's colours already: the legendary angel and the warmonk probably take up it's slots. That said i would not be suprised if this sees play, it is pretty good.

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Whenever a creature you control attacks alone, you may search your library for an Aura card that can enchant it and put it into play attached to that creature. If you do, shuffle your library afterwards.
4/5
Fun, but probably too costly for a bant/exalted deck. That said if you drop this and can attack with another creature then it can be a +6/+6 trample pump (epic proportions). Most likely casual but would be great if it can be done in a competitive deck.

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"Wargate" XGWU
Sorcery (R)
Search your library for a permanent card with converted mana cost X or less and put it into play. Shuffle your library.
How many x costs are there in the set, this could be a cycle if there are 3 more at least. It is a bit too costly but if there will be a combo in standard with some cheap elements it will be used. If there are cheap and excellent permanent hosers for most common strategies than this can be used to with those to tutor for silver bullets.
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Damn the counterspell would be playable at one less mana .
The snake has potential.
Wargate seems like lavalanche brother.(maybe its a cycle like conflux 5 power or more? )
Its good for ramp i guess .
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:42 AM   #28
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Hold on a minute, we've got a xwug spell here and we already had an xbrg. Does is anyone else thinking cycle of X shard cards?
Interesting..

Hard to say, but based on what we've seen, I give it at least 40% chance.
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In Limited, the Serpent is absolutely insane. I've lost games to Bloodhall Oozes and even Rockslide Elementals that have got out of hand; and the Serpent gets bigger more reliably.

Right now I'm hoping for some ridiculous Bant sealed pool at the pre-release, because they've definitely got some goods. Throw one of the new "Armadillo Hammers" on this Snake and smash face.
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is the flavourtext of the grizzled leotau real? I like it ^^ And imagin the leotau with doran, the siege tower! 2 mana 6/6? Okay xD
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