[ARB] Bant Sojourners and Deathbringer Thoctar

***urzassedatives*** · 04-20-2009, 11:00 PM

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Dark_Flame · 04-20-2009, 11:02 PM

Soujorners are awesome in draft. Its a more versatile Elvish Visionary. The Thoctar is great in draft, but very weak in constructed. Viable for casual play though

WarhammerIIC · 04-20-2009, 11:02 PM

ouch, the thoctar hurts

bant sojourners is okay, a 3 cost 1/1 with draw a card isnt any worse than merchant of secrets, its got nice art though

Solmancer · 04-20-2009, 11:02 PM

Thoctar is kind of "meh", but it helps finish a game off; terribly overcosted to really get much mileage, though.

Sojourners is a "Why would you ever cycle me" type card.

xfollowthereaperx · 04-20-2009, 11:03 PM

The thoctar is cool, little expensive. Could have been nice with some haste, everything else in this set has it.

saintskeith · 04-20-2009, 11:03 PM

so the common doesnt make flyers, just as thought
but it works both ways, so thats good

Thoctar is alright, but 6 mana for a 3/3.. eh, i dono
but its great that it doesnt tap like Goblin sharpshooter
going to be crazy in limited

Oppo28 · 04-20-2009, 11:03 PM

Deathbringer Thoctar is really cool. I don't think it's that good, but if you can somehow get a bunch of counters on it, it would be sick. THe other guy is meh

ShadowFenril · 04-20-2009, 11:04 PM

Bant cycler is pretty good, IMO. Good for early or late game. Pick up another card and get a for free, sounds good to me.

I'm happy to finally see what Deathbringer Thoctar does, too. Interesting effect. You could wipe out your opponent's entire army of X/1s with that guy.

Edit: Oh, Bant guy only makes 1. Well, not as good, but still ok, I suppose.

xfollowthereaperx · 04-20-2009, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarhammerIIC

ouch, the thoctar hurts

bant sojourners is okay, a 3 cost 1/1 with draw a card isnt any worse than merchant of secrets

Instant speed uncounterable is pretty nice to boot, maybe even a 2/4

KPDaly16 · 04-20-2009, 11:04 PM

Going from 2 1/1 Bird tokens to 1 1/1 Soldier token is a disappointing dropoff, but a fair power level.

Deathbringer Thoctar: New Goblin Sharpshooter! Absolutely going in my Blightning SB for Elves and Tokens.

Madroc · 04-20-2009, 11:04 PM

Nice new sharpshooter, great against tokens, given that you can get a creature in the grave to begin with, and they don't have glorious anthem.. Well there's always volcanic fallout/infest for that. I like it!

The cycler is not that great.

sleeper agent 2.0 · 04-20-2009, 11:04 PM

well I guess there had to be an expensive rare 3/3 creature. It is kinda fun though, and great against tokens!

sojourners - I'm not really pleased with this as a tri-color common cycle. But whatever.

Gigglioronomicon · 04-20-2009, 11:05 PM

Well neither one is that impressive. Bant Sojourners is decent in limited.

Deathbringer Thoctar is like a more expensive, slightly tricked out, worse Kresh the Bloodbraided.

Seth Dracovitch · 04-20-2009, 11:05 PM

The Deathbringer Thoctar was a let down. I was really hopign for something involving Deathtouch. I mean he's good, very good in a devour deck... but for me he doesn't make the cut.

Apex · 04-20-2009, 11:06 PM

Bant Sojourners is AWESOME.

People are going to have to play around all sort of things now that cycling+ability is back. This makes limited much more skill intensive.

Plus, he is a great dude for bant in draft even if you hard cast him. Big butt + leaves a 1/1 is really nice for bant.

04-20-2009, 11:02 PM	#2
Dark_Flame Wizard Mentor Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 663	Soujorners are awesome in draft. Its a more versatile Elvish Visionary. The Thoctar is great in draft, but very weak in constructed. Viable for casual play though __________________ _____________________________________________________________ Currently Playing: Land Matters Tinker Satanic Sligh Red Rock EDH: Sedris, the [187] King Uril the Enchanter Teysa Token Combo

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ShadowFenril Dies to removal Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,220	Bant cycler is pretty good, IMO. Good for early or late game. Pick up another card and get a for free, sounds good to me. I'm happy to finally see what Deathbringer Thoctar does, too. Interesting effect. You could wipe out your opponent's entire army of X/1s with that guy. Edit: Oh, Bant guy only makes 1. Well, not as good, but still ok, I suppose. __________________ Awesome sig by The Ugly Swan TRADE ME DRAGON/FOIL DRAGON CARDS!

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Madroc Wizard Mentor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: az Posts: 592	Nice new sharpshooter, great against tokens, given that you can get a creature in the grave to begin with, and they don't have glorious anthem.. Well there's always volcanic fallout/infest for that. I like it! The cycler is not that great. __________________ "If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason." - Jack Handey MY TYPE TOO DECKS -B Rogues -Sanguine Bond 5c Life gain -Polymorph Tokens MY EXTENDED DECK -Brs deck for da winz! MY TYPE ONE DECK -Fluctuator Haikus are easy But sometimes they don't make sense Refrigerator

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04-20-2009, 11:02 PM	#3
WarhammerIIC Archmage Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In my pants! Posts: 805	ouch, the thoctar hurts bant sojourners is okay, a 3 cost 1/1 with draw a card isnt any worse than merchant of secrets, its got nice art though

04-20-2009, 11:02 PM	#4
Solmancer Archmage Overlord Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,304	Thoctar is kind of "meh", but it helps finish a game off; terribly overcosted to really get much mileage, though. Sojourners is a "Why would you ever cycle me" type card.

04-20-2009, 11:03 PM	#5
xfollowthereaperx Ascended Mage Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 464	The thoctar is cool, little expensive. Could have been nice with some haste, everything else in this set has it.

04-20-2009, 11:05 PM	#13
Gigglioronomicon Ascended Mage Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 245	Well neither one is that impressive. Bant Sojourners is decent in limited. Deathbringer Thoctar is like a more expensive, slightly tricked out, worse Kresh the Bloodbraided.

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Apex 2 Standard Deviations Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In the 95% Confidence Interval Posts: 1,978	Bant Sojourners is AWESOME. People are going to have to play around all sort of things now that cycling+ability is back. This makes limited much more skill intensive. Plus, he is a great dude for bant in draft even if you hard cast him. Big butt + leaves a 1/1 is really nice for bant. __________________ Props go to [Æther] and Le_Gambit for this awesome banner! Limited rating: solidly in the mid 1800s. It hovers. Constructed rating: 1603. Seriously, not even kidding .

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