[M10] White card jamboree

[landcollector]

Originally Posted by oranges2

The turn he comes into play.

The turn you equip (unless you play on waiting until you hit *7* mana and like dead cards).


Rafiq and Colossus to name two.

Rafiq, yes.
Colossus, meh. I've never liked it.

Everything dies to something else, be it removal, bounce, burn, or combat. If I were to run wild with the assertion that "if it dies to removal, it sucks." then Rafiq and Colossus must not be good after all since they both die to removal of one form or another. Evaluate a card's worth based on what it can do, not what it dies to.

[AEIOUsometimesY]

Originally Posted by oranges2

Wilt-Leaf Liege

Well, yes...let me clarify:

"It's about time there was a knight with a big butt that I'll likely be able to afford"

...and yeah, there is also Wilt-leaf Cavaliers

[oranges2]

Originally Posted by AEIOUsometimesY

Well, yes...let me clarify:

"It's about time there was a knight with a big butt that I'll likely be able to afford"

...and yeah, there is also Wilt-leaf Cavaliers

Play online if you're poor.

Or use proxies.

[oranges2]

Originally Posted by landcollector

Everything dies to something else, be it removal, bounce, burn, or combat. If I were to run wild with the assertion that "if it dies to removal, it sucks." then Rafiq and Colossus must not be good after all since they both die to removal of one form or another. Evaluate a card's worth based on what it can do, not what it dies to.

That argument is so played out.

Rafiq and Colossus are both one card that are good by themselves, so you aren't completely blown out if they get shot down.

In addition, Colossus has protection from alot of removal, and Rafiq can give benefit the turn he comes into play.

[AEIOUsometimesY]

Originally Posted by oranges2

Play online if you're poor.

Or use proxies.

...or I can just play without the Liege? Not like I care much...rotation is only a few months away anyways...price will tank then

[landcollector]

Originally Posted by oranges2

That argument is so played out.

Rafiq and Colossus are both one card that are good by themselves, so you aren't completely blown out if they get shot down.

In addition, Colossus has protection from alot of removal, and Rafiq can give benefit the turn he comes into play.

Yes it is. Oh well, it seems that you're convinced that Lightwielder Paladin is jank. You are entitled to your opinion, as wrong as it is.

[oranges2]

Originally Posted by landcollector

Yes it is. Oh well, it seems that you're convinced that Lightwielder Paladin is jank. You are entitled to your opinion, as wrong as it is.

I'll enjoy laughing at you three months from now when still nobody is playing it.

[landcollector]

Originally Posted by oranges2

I'll enjoy laughing at you three months from now when still nobody is playing it.

I'm sure you will. While I don't think it's jank, I don't believe it is awesome either. It's a good card in my eyes, not crap but not awesome either.

[Seth Dracovitch]

The paladin is actuaslly pretty neat, If they upped it to 6 mana and gave it pro red/black and went mythic everyone would still complain about it. Somehow I think you can never satisfy anyone...

[Draconeus]

Originally Posted by oranges2

I'll enjoy laughing at you three months from now when still nobody is playing it.

I completely Agree. I'm sorry but at 5 mana, for a non evasive creature which requires combate damage to do something. It's pretty poor. More over, it's liable to terminate, doomblade, never mind bituminous blast or a whole host of other goodies.

It's going to be a 5 to cast target player uses a removal spell.

It's not even sideboard worthy since it's capacity to hose is severely limited. Oh look, i chump block with my bitterblossom token. And god forbid if they aren't runnign red or black permanents.

It looks like a jank rare that might be reasonably good in limited if only for the 5 to cast 4/4 First strike. The ability is pretty meaningless since if they are running red or black, can't remove or block it, they are going to die to the damage ANYWAY.

[landcollector]

Originally Posted by Seth Dracovitch

The paladin is actuaslly pretty neat, If they upped it to 6 mana and gave it pro red/black and went mythic everyone would still complain about it. Somehow I think you can never satisfy anyone...

So true...it seems like oranges2 is trying to find fault where there is none. I'm planning on getting a couple of these, along with 1 or 2 Baneslayer Angels (depending on price), a playset of bolts, and some Captain of the Watch cards.

[oranges2]

Originally Posted by landcollector

So true...it seems like oranges2 is trying to find fault where there is none .

It seems like you're trying to get excited over a bad card when there is no reason to.

[landcollector]

Originally Posted by oranges2

It seems like you're trying to get excited over a bad card when there is no reason to.

I'm not. You and I just have differing definitions on what a bad card is.

[Seth Dracovitch]

And now a harsh note of reality.

Everything dies to removal. Which is what Lightwielder Paladin dies to as well.

Thank you for the nice little intervention of reality that no one is going to pay attention too.

Carry on.

[oranges2]

Originally Posted by landcollector

I'm not. You and I just have differing definitions on what a bad card is.

Well, when I say "bad card", I mean a card that's bad in competitive play.

Whatever may be good in your lunch table circle of friends is beyond my knowledge.

Everything dies to removal. Which is what Lightwielder Paladin dies to as well.

How very nice of you to reiterate the same played out argument that was stated earlier in this thread, thus proving my point on how played out it is.