Good Game: A Limited Experience

waterboytkd · 11-12-2009, 11:05 PM

This thread is for the discussion of my latest article, Good Game: A Limited Experience. We would be grateful if you would let us know what you think, but please keep your comments on topic.

Starkiller2 · 11-12-2009, 11:13 PM

wow, congratulations on making it! I'm actually in awe of your draft deck.

HeroTheDragon · 11-13-2009, 03:36 AM

I loved this article. Personally, I can never get enough of blow-by-blow games/matches, especially in single elimination. I was excited throughout the article to see if you would win. Well done.

Alash · 11-13-2009, 04:37 AM

A big congratulation for making it, and thanks for for this enjoyable article.

blithen · 11-13-2009, 04:54 AM

Congrats on making it, and I freakin' LOVE your writing style, it gets me on the edge of my seat everytime...
Damn I love magic.

burek · 11-13-2009, 07:47 AM

Congratulations! It must feel great to be back on the PT. Good luck in the future!

sonicqaz · 11-13-2009, 10:17 AM

What about the "just kidding" at the end of the. Article? Was that in refernce to the entire article?

bateleur · 11-13-2009, 10:22 AM

Congratulations, nicely done!

Good draft strategy there. White was definitely the right call.

Just one complaint, though, if it's not hubris to disagree with a pro...

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I mean, I had two Adventuring Gears, which are obviously nutty in this set

Not only is it not obvious, it's not true. Adventuring Gear is acceptable filler, but it's far from a great card. It can create blowout wins if everything works out well, but often it's just bad.

Redirus91 · 11-13-2009, 10:35 AM

Go G/W Rock or whatever its called.
Im Talking;
Walletslayer, noble, KotR, scoup mob, ranger of eos, elspeth, steppe lynx, etc.

Expensive deck but fun and good. Beats my Jund too often.
Seen the Crypt combo deck with extractor demons? Ouchy! its like T4-5 three demon strike.....

Seeker after Chaos · 11-13-2009, 10:49 AM

Khalni Gem? You couldn't pay me enough to run it. Your deck is more than good enough that you don't want random screwjob losses to getting Sanctified or Shambled or Roiled there, even if it does turn on your Lynxes.

the_cardfather · 11-13-2009, 11:48 AM

Adventuring gear is no Machette, but it does have good synergy with the Minotaur/landfall. It may be filler, but it's good filler. I don't know that I would want to run 2 of them.

The article was well written. Congratz on getting back on the Tour. The only thing I didn't like was making it sound like winning was about raw skill or lucking your way back in. "I played sealed once, I've never drafted Zen". Dunno it kind of blows smoke in the face of players who have been working harder than you to qualify but haven't.

waterboytkd · 11-13-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicqaz

What about the "just kidding" at the end of the. Article? Was that in refernce to the entire article?

It was not in reference to the entire article. Just the "Behind you!" thing at the end. Bad Friday the 13th thing. Sorry.

As for blowing smoke in the faces of people who have been testing hard, that was not my intention by any means. What I was trying to show was what I've been talking about with friends recently, and that is that I feel like Limited is a format more defined by general rules rather than format specific ones. Of course, this isn't an absolute (Zendikar is much different than Alara--it's faster with weaker removal), but some rules about limited still apply. Removal (especially good removal) is boss; in draft, it's best not to commit to a color too early; etc.

I'm not saying these things won me the PTQ, but they certainly helped. I feel like they're good limited rules.

MadMageQc · 11-13-2009, 12:55 PM

Congratulations on your win Andrew, and good luck in San Diego!

RW was definitely the right call in both parts of the event. There is one card choice I disagree with in each deck, but they're minor enough to not have been a liability for you, or so it seems. I'll still point them out so you can give it thought for later Limited events :

Murasa Pyromancer is truly bad in any deck that's not really heavy on Allies. A 3/2 for six mana that only deals one or two damage to a creature ETB really is no Kavu, and not the kind of card I want in a beatdown deck. It can be stellar when you have 5+ other allies in your deck, otherwise it's a big no-no. Learning this after construction, I would have sideboarded it out every time for Ruinous Minotaur, not Goblin Ruinblaster which is great even just as a 2-power hasty guy for 3.

Khalni Gem is not the kind of card you want in a beatdown deck either if you have only 2-3 landfall cards. You want it when you need mana fixing and/or acceleration for high-cost cards, or when you have a true landfall-heavy deck.

mox · 11-13-2009, 02:33 PM

To bad you can't play Merfolk!

I'd say if you play bushwhacker, be prepaired to test like a madman. The deck requires some mad playing skills.

Shekura · 11-13-2009, 07:29 PM

first of all, congrats on gettin' back in the game. second, this article was a real nail bitter, i felt like i was right there with you in the matches, even though they were the "abridged" version. third, what the heck? "behind you, lol jk"?

11-12-2009, 11:05 PM	#1
waterboytkd Just Getting Started MTGS Editor Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 117	Good Game: A Limited Experience This thread is for the discussion of my latest article, Good Game: A Limited Experience. We would be grateful if you would let us know what you think, but please keep your comments on topic.

11-12-2009, 11:13 PM	#2
Starkiller2 HATEFLAYER Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: My Computer. Duh. Posts: 1,760	wow, congratulations on making it! I'm actually in awe of your draft deck. __________________ Thanks to SB4 at High-Light Studios for the sig and avvie! Currently Running: Standard JAWs Casual: Rogues Currently Building: Martyr Foundry Uril EDH Luminarch Enchantress

11-13-2009, 04:54 AM	#5
blithen Experienced Mage Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 57	Congrats on making it, and I freakin' LOVE your writing style, it gets me on the edge of my seat everytime... Damn I love magic. __________________ (Done by myself) Add me on msn messenger! Just tell me who you are!

11-13-2009, 12:55 PM	#13
MadMageQc Ascended Mage Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Quebec, Quebec Posts: 313	Congratulations on your win Andrew, and good luck in San Diego! RW was definitely the right call in both parts of the event. There is one card choice I disagree with in each deck, but they're minor enough to not have been a liability for you, or so it seems. I'll still point them out so you can give it thought for later Limited events : Murasa Pyromancer is truly bad in any deck that's not really heavy on Allies. A 3/2 for six mana that only deals one or two damage to a creature ETB really is no Kavu, and not the kind of card I want in a beatdown deck. It can be stellar when you have 5+ other allies in your deck, otherwise it's a big no-no. Learning this after construction, I would have sideboarded it out every time for Ruinous Minotaur, not Goblin Ruinblaster which is great even just as a 2-power hasty guy for 3. Khalni Gem is not the kind of card you want in a beatdown deck either if you have only 2-3 landfall cards. You want it when you need mana fixing and/or acceleration for high-cost cards, or when you have a true landfall-heavy deck. __________________ DCI Rules Advisor Madness, My Sadness I Am My Own Savior -Iced Earth

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11-13-2009, 04:37 AM	#4
Alash Ascended Mage Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 194	A big congratulation for making it, and thanks for for this enjoyable article.

11-13-2009, 10:17 AM	#7
sonicqaz Experienced Mage Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 78	What about the "just kidding" at the end of the. Article? Was that in refernce to the entire article?

11-13-2009, 10:35 AM	#9
Redirus91 Ascended Mage Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: rocklin, ca Posts: 315	Go G/W Rock or whatever its called. Im Talking; Walletslayer, noble, KotR, scoup mob, ranger of eos, elspeth, steppe lynx, etc. Expensive deck but fun and good. Beats my Jund too often. Seen the Crypt combo deck with extractor demons? Ouchy! its like T4-5 three demon strike.....

11-13-2009, 11:48 AM	#11
the_cardfather Archmage Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: St Petersburg, FL Posts: 990	Adventuring gear is no Machette, but it does have good synergy with the Minotaur/landfall. It may be filler, but it's good filler. I don't know that I would want to run 2 of them. The article was well written. Congratz on getting back on the Tour. The only thing I didn't like was making it sound like winning was about raw skill or lucking your way back in. "I played sealed once, I've never drafted Zen". Dunno it kind of blows smoke in the face of players who have been working harder than you to qualify but haven't.

11-13-2009, 07:29 PM	#15
Shekura Just Getting Started Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 8	first of all, congrats on gettin' back in the game. second, this article was a real nail bitter, i felt like i was right there with you in the matches, even though they were the "abridged" version. third, what the heck? "behind you, lol jk"?