Williams recieves "Special Invitation" to Worlds

Team Scoin · 11-11-2009, 11:40 AM

For the record, I am a fan of David Williams, however:

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Eve...c/worlds09-inv

Invitations to the 2009 World Championships are awarded in the following manner:

# The current World Champion.
# The Top 8 finishers from the previous World Championship.
# The current Pro Tour Player of the Year.
# For countries that hold an invitation-only National Championship, the members of each national team, including that team’s designated alternate, if any.
# For countries that hold an open National Championship, the winner of that National Championship.
# Players with Pro Tour Players Club level 3 or higher. Level 3 players may only attend one Pro Tour and/or Worlds of their choice in a season.
# The Top 25 DCI Composite–ranked players from the APAC region (published on October 7, 2009).
# The Top 25 DCI Composite–ranked players from the Japan region (published on October 7, 2009).
# The Top 50 DCI Composite–ranked players from the Europe region (published on October 7, 2009).
# The Top 50 DCI Composite–ranked players from the Latin America region (published on October 7, 2009).
# The Top 50 DCI Composite–ranked players from the North America region (published on October 7, 2009).
# The Top 25 DCI Total–ranked players from the APAC region (published on October 7, 2009).
# The Top 25 DCI Total–ranked players from the Japan region (published on October 7, 2009).
# The Top 50 DCI Total–ranked players from the Europe region (published on October 7, 2009).
# The Top 50 DCI Total–ranked players from the Latin America region (published on October 7, 2009).
# The Top 50 DCI Total–ranked players from the North America region (published on October 7, 2009).
# Participants in the 2009 Magic Online Championship.

# Be David Williams

wcsae · 11-11-2009, 11:49 AM

Any information on what the "special invitation" means? Was it a fan vote or something? Or maybe they just needed to round out the tourney?

armlx · 11-11-2009, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wcsae

Any information on what the "special invitation" means? Was it a fan vote or something? Or maybe they just needed to round out the tourney?

He's a successful poker pro who they want to have playing the game.

Ahmad Carroll · 11-11-2009, 12:29 PM

Publicity. You think if someone like Tiger Woods (much bigger name, I know, but both are known outside Magic circles) said he wanted to played in Worlds, they would say no?

Sykes · 11-12-2009, 02:06 PM

Honestly there should be an ESPN poker/magic broadcast. Like 1 draft pod and 1 table.

Table look something like this:

Gabriel Nassif (magic/poker player, known more for magic, brings an international view)
Justin Bonomo (poker/magic player, known more for poker, high results in poker)
David Williams (poker/magic player, known more for poker HOWEVER he has a big history in the game of magic)
Jon Finkel (one of the greatest magic players ever, from what I've read an avid poker player)
Chris Pikula (magic/poker player)
Brock Parker (2 time bracelet winner and magic player)
Adam "Roothlus" Levy (magic/poker player, known more for poker, has had multiple tv coverage, over 600k in tournament wins live and 500k online).
Ben Stark (probably the next finkel when it comes to U.S. players. Solid poker player as well, although I'd have a vested interest to vote for him on a magic/poker table)

fatdogwiggle · 11-12-2009, 03:16 PM

I don't think I've ever heard of Ben Stark...

This is probably ok though. Im tired of hearing **** about how Magic is for kids.

Tin_Mox5831 · 11-12-2009, 03:42 PM

Honestly, I have no problem with this at all. He is a very well-known player (albeit more known for his poker) who can directly help to improve the game's image just by being visible on the tournament scene.

Basically, the game could grow and benefit from this move, so I'm fine with it.

XDarkAngelX · 11-12-2009, 03:51 PM

Organized Play is just there for publicity for WotC and Magic. This will bring in publicity. Case closed.

**Phyrre56** · 11-12-2009, 04:40 PM

He is by far the most recognizable competitive Magic player outside the community, best known for coming in 2nd place in the 2004 World Series of Poker.

Then again, he was also once suspended for a year for using marked cards...so...take that for what you will.

tusker · 11-12-2009, 06:28 PM

I have no problem with this invitation. Good publicity for Magic is good for all players, regardless of level.

savaj_cheetr · 11-12-2009, 07:49 PM

They did several years back for Kai Budde as well. No real problem; the Pro Tour is a marketing tool, and Dave Williams is a good person to have playing your card game if you want to advertise.

MagicRage · 11-12-2009, 09:21 PM

I recall hearing a couple years back that Dave Williams had a lifetime invite to all PTs and Worlds. It was an apology from Wizards and/or the DCI for that one year ban he famously got for his "marked" Accumulated Knowledges, which they later decieded was excessive.

I don't know if that story is true, it's just what I remember hearing.

ellomdian · 11-12-2009, 10:07 PM

Dave Williams can be a HUGE prick. I hope that he shapes up with this invite

pw709 · 11-13-2009, 12:12 AM

Yeah, as far as I know this has been going on for awhile. Seems kind of unfair to all those slaving at PTQs and such, but I guess those idiots should just get with the program and make a WSOP final.

martin caillou · 11-13-2009, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ellomdian

Dave Williams can be a HUGE prick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phyrre56

he was also once suspended for a year for using marked cards.

Well, let´s see:

Bob Maher cheated. His punishment? he got his own Magic card.

Mike Long cheated. His punishment? he got his own Magic card.

Dave Williams cheated: His punishment? gets an invitation to Worlds.

Wizards: you are totally unfair with the decent and honest players. If you want promotion, send an invitation to Marylin Manson, but don´t do things like this.

11-11-2009, 11:40 AM	#1
Team Scoin Common Mage Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 30	Williams recieves "Special Invitation" to Worlds For the record, I am a fan of David Williams, however: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Eve...c/worlds09-inv Invitations to the 2009 World Championships are awarded in the following manner: # The current World Champion. # The Top 8 finishers from the previous World Championship. # The current Pro Tour Player of the Year. # For countries that hold an invitation-only National Championship, the members of each national team, including that team’s designated alternate, if any. # For countries that hold an open National Championship, the winner of that National Championship. # Players with Pro Tour Players Club level 3 or higher. Level 3 players may only attend one Pro Tour and/or Worlds of their choice in a season. # The Top 25 DCI Composite–ranked players from the APAC region (published on October 7, 2009). # The Top 25 DCI Composite–ranked players from the Japan region (published on October 7, 2009). # The Top 50 DCI Composite–ranked players from the Europe region (published on October 7, 2009). # The Top 50 DCI Composite–ranked players from the Latin America region (published on October 7, 2009). # The Top 50 DCI Composite–ranked players from the North America region (published on October 7, 2009). # The Top 25 DCI Total–ranked players from the APAC region (published on October 7, 2009). # The Top 25 DCI Total–ranked players from the Japan region (published on October 7, 2009). # The Top 50 DCI Total–ranked players from the Europe region (published on October 7, 2009). # The Top 50 DCI Total–ranked players from the Latin America region (published on October 7, 2009). # The Top 50 DCI Total–ranked players from the North America region (published on October 7, 2009). # Participants in the 2009 Magic Online Championship. # Be David Williams

11-11-2009, 11:49 AM	#2
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11-11-2009, 12:29 PM	#4
Ahmad Carroll Experienced Mage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 78	Publicity. You think if someone like Tiger Woods (much bigger name, I know, but both are known outside Magic circles) said he wanted to played in Worlds, they would say no? __________________ When you watch one of these Bruce Lee fights, he beats the crap out of one guy, knocks him out, then moves onto the next guy. That fits the new combat system pretty well. He doesn’t punch eat of his opponents once then play a post-combat Pyroclasm. - Riki Hayashi

11-12-2009, 03:16 PM	#6
fatdogwiggle Ascended Mage Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 341	I don't think I've ever heard of Ben Stark... This is probably ok though. Im tired of hearing **** about how Magic is for kids. __________________

11-12-2009, 03:51 PM	#8
XDarkAngelX Archmage Overlord Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,753	Organized Play is just there for publicity for WotC and Magic. This will bring in publicity. Case closed. __________________


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11-12-2009, 02:06 PM	#5
Sykes Ascended Mage Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 159	Honestly there should be an ESPN poker/magic broadcast. Like 1 draft pod and 1 table. Table look something like this: Gabriel Nassif (magic/poker player, known more for magic, brings an international view) Justin Bonomo (poker/magic player, known more for poker, high results in poker) David Williams (poker/magic player, known more for poker HOWEVER he has a big history in the game of magic) Jon Finkel (one of the greatest magic players ever, from what I've read an avid poker player) Chris Pikula (magic/poker player) Brock Parker (2 time bracelet winner and magic player) Adam "Roothlus" Levy (magic/poker player, known more for poker, has had multiple tv coverage, over 600k in tournament wins live and 500k online). Ben Stark (probably the next finkel when it comes to U.S. players. Solid poker player as well, although I'd have a vested interest to vote for him on a magic/poker table)

11-12-2009, 03:42 PM	#7
Tin_Mox5831 Experienced Mage Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 76	Honestly, I have no problem with this at all. He is a very well-known player (albeit more known for his poker) who can directly help to improve the game's image just by being visible on the tournament scene. Basically, the game could grow and benefit from this move, so I'm fine with it.

11-12-2009, 04:40 PM	#9
Phyrre56 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,600 Blog Entries: 6	He is by far the most recognizable competitive Magic player outside the community, best known for coming in 2nd place in the 2004 World Series of Poker. Then again, he was also once suspended for a year for using marked cards...so...take that for what you will. __________________ Limited Resources -- My Moderator Helpdesk

11-12-2009, 06:28 PM	#10
tusker Just Getting Started Join Date: May 2006 Location: Davenport, FL USA Posts: 8	I have no problem with this invitation. Good publicity for Magic is good for all players, regardless of level.

11-12-2009, 07:49 PM	#11
savaj_cheetr Experienced Mage Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: West Los Angeles Posts: 108	They did several years back for Kai Budde as well. No real problem; the Pro Tour is a marketing tool, and Dave Williams is a good person to have playing your card game if you want to advertise. __________________ last.fm

11-12-2009, 09:21 PM	#12
MagicRage Archmage Overlord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 1,202 Blog Entries: 8	I recall hearing a couple years back that Dave Williams had a lifetime invite to all PTs and Worlds. It was an apology from Wizards and/or the DCI for that one year ban he famously got for his "marked" Accumulated Knowledges, which they later decieded was excessive. I don't know if that story is true, it's just what I remember hearing. __________________ Sig banner by Xyre. Jim's Treasure Coast Cards - my local store My ebay account Treasure Coast Magic - MTG on Florida's Treasure Coast MTGO: Magic_Rage SCG forums: MagicRage MTG Rules Advisor & Core Level Coordinator "The Game is bigger than the players."

11-12-2009, 10:07 PM	#13
ellomdian Wizard Mentor Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Denver CO Posts: 685	Dave Williams can be a HUGE prick. I hope that he shapes up with this invite __________________ Vinitage: Stax. Oh yeah, and I judge. Alot.

11-13-2009, 12:12 AM	#14
pw709 Ascended Mage Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Austin, Texas, USA Posts: 311	Yeah, as far as I know this has been going on for awhile. Seems kind of unfair to all those slaving at PTQs and such, but I guess those idiots should just get with the program and make a WSOP final. __________________ H/W List: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=174367

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