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Old 11-13-2009, 06:11 PM   #16
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Well, let´s see:

Bob Maher cheated. His punishment? he got his own Magic card.

Mike Long cheated. His punishment? he got his own Magic card.

Dave Williams cheated: His punishment? gets an invitation to Worlds.

Wizards: you are totally unfair with the decent and honest players. If you want promotion, send an invitation to Marylin Manson, but don´t do things like this.
This is BS. The things you list are completely unconnected. Wizards take very good precautions towards cheaters.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:03 PM   #17
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I'm all for it. It's not like if Phil Ivey decided tomorrow to pick up Magic he would get invited to Professional level events. David Williams is a historically great Magic player, and him being a great poker player as well helps with publicity.

If his invitation gets even one new player to the game, I think it's worth it.
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:24 PM   #18
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i won a qualifier to get to my countries nationals i got top 12 at nationals wanted to go as the 4th invite from my country but couldn't go because i did not get invite on time to get my visa. This really ticks me of
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:24 PM   #19
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They've done this 'Sponsors Exception' before, with Kai as well as Dave. This isn't a new thing. I think the first time he got the invite there was a fuss over it, but nothing happened.
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This is BS. The things you list are completely unconnected. Wizards take very good precautions towards cheaters.
Unless of course your a famous or charismatic character within the game that can help promote it.

Then cheating can just become your gimmick. I point you towards Mark Rosewater and others calling people like Mike Long a good thing for the game.

Only your regular 'scrubs' aren't allowed to cheat.

As for Williams, it makes perfect sense why he'd get an invite and anything to promote the game seems good. It's just a shame cheaters can be awarded so blatantly.
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:57 PM   #21
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anything to keep the game going and possibly thicken it ranks.
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:48 PM   #22
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He's not taking anyone else's spot.. let him in.
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Old 11-19-2009, 06:56 PM   #23
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Yeah getting all those pokermonkeys into mtg would be big bank for wotc. It's a bit corporate and on principal it's a bit lame but money talks + I never heard him say one bad thing about mtg, he is always like a promoter: I rather play mtg than poker.
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:33 PM   #24
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do magic players know what a complete joke DW is considered in the poker community?
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I recall hearing a couple years back that Dave Williams had a lifetime invite to all PTs and Worlds. It was an apology from Wizards and/or the DCI for that one year ban he famously got for his "marked" Accumulated Knowledges, which they later decieded was excessive.

I don't know if that story is true, it's just what I remember hearing.
also, there's a 0% chance this story is true. cmon now.
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:57 PM   #25
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Honestly there should be an ESPN poker/magic broadcast. Like 1 draft pod and 1 table.

Table look something like this:

Gabriel Nassif (magic/poker player, known more for magic, brings an international view)
Justin Bonomo (poker/magic player, known more for poker, high results in poker)
David Williams (poker/magic player, known more for poker HOWEVER he has a big history in the game of magic)
Jon Finkel (one of the greatest magic players ever, from what I've read an avid poker player)
Chris Pikula (magic/poker player)
Brock Parker (2 time bracelet winner and magic player)
Adam "Roothlus" Levy (magic/poker player, known more for poker, has had multiple tv coverage, over 600k in tournament wins live and 500k online).
Ben Stark (probably the next finkel when it comes to U.S. players. Solid poker player as well, although I'd have a vested interest to vote for him on a magic/poker table)
Add EFro (Eric Froelich) with WSOP bracelets and Noah Boeken (WPT final tables)
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:00 PM   #26
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do magic players know what a complete joke DW is considered in the poker community?
Perhaps their jealous that he was a runner-up in the WSOP main event.
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