I love World Queller. Its 1 of My favorite creatures in this deck.
Mass Calcify is no good for Me. Too much White gets played in my play group. I tried Reya in early versions of this deck. Its too expensive and Emeria makes it kind of redundant.
oh sorry i didnt see queller in the list and i quess Mass Calcify would be good in my meta seeing as we have three mono decks ( B,R,G) true reya is just an overpriced Emeria
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Pentarch Paladin would require adding something like flickerform to make it playable. I'm not too keen on removal that costs so much to set up. I'd rather just play a sweeper.
How has this deck been holding up against combo decks for you? I have a eight and a half tails deck as well, and I find that combo decks are hard to handle.
Have you considered rule of law or lapse of certainty?
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How has this deck been holding up against combo decks for you? I have a eight and a half tails deck as well, and I find that combo decks are hard to handle.
Have you considered rule of law or lapse of certainty?
Combo hasn't been much of a problem for Me. The only combo decks I play this regularly against are My Wort, Boggart Auntie and a Nicol Bolas Storm combo deck. In both cases if they can't win fast vs this deck they can't win at all.
I haven't considered either of those cards. I don't think effects like that are really needed, Rule of Law in particular. 1 deck I've been playing against a lot lately is Erayo, Soratami Ascendant with Arcane Laboratory and I wouldn't want to inflict similar misery on the people I play with.
Pentarch Paladin would require adding something like flickerform to make it playable. I'm not too keen on removal that costs so much to set up. I'd rather just play a sweeper.
I know the Voltron style works well with Eight-and-a-Half-Tails but I really wanted to play a control deck.
Why would it require Flickerform? You name white when it comes into play and turn permanents white with your general, seems really solid to me.
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I've always felt that planeswalkers were pretty underwhelming in the format. Tails lets you protect Knight-Errant I suppose and indestructible things are nice. But Tirel seems like nothing more than a lifegain engine or a token engine. If you were using her as a wrath, I think I'd prefer final judgment.
I feel like with how strong of a control deck mono white lends itself to be, Aven Mindsensor seems way too strong not to run. And he can definitely be protected for a while too.
Unsure how often your creatures ever seal the game, but Ghostway could prove to be effective.
Finally, as I'm sure of the potential of All is Dust + Tails making opponents permanents white, have you ever thought about running It That Betrays? Granted it would cost 19, which means at least 10 land with Gauntlet / Caged Sun / Lens. So it definitely seems more cute than it does anything else. But it could be another win con. Or you could just make people sac all their ish.
The recursion package in this deck is awesome as it is. If somebody kills off Emeria We either get it back with Sun Titan or use Mistveil Plains to put it on the bottom of the deck and tutor it out
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I've always felt that planeswalkers were pretty underwhelming in the format. Tails lets you protect Knight-Errant I suppose and indestructible things are nice. But Tirel seems like nothing more than a lifegain engine or a token engine. If you were using her as a wrath, I think I'd prefer final judgment.
They serve their purposes here. Knight-Errant in a deck that can control the board like this goes indestructible stuffs for Me way more often than it should. You're right about Tirel, she is mostly a life gain/dude engine and Ajani plays a similar role, but at our table even they draw the hate. As for Karn, everybody seems to throw everything at Him
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I feel like with how strong of a control deck mono white lends itself to be, Aven Mindsensor seems way too strong not to run. And he can definitely be protected for a while too.
He was in there for a while but got cut for not doing enough. There wasn't a lot of tutoring going on at our table at the time. I really should put Him back in.
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Unsure how often your creatures ever seal the game, but Ghostway could prove to be effective.
It really didn't help when We tried. At our table this is "the sweeper deck" and there isn't enough ETB effects to make it worth while
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Finally, as I'm sure of the potential of All is Dust + Tails making opponents permanents white, have you ever thought about running It That Betrays? Granted it would cost 19, which means at least 10 land with Gauntlet / Caged Sun / Lens. So it definitely seems more cute than it does anything else. But it could be another win con. Or you could just make people sac all their ish.
I've thought about it but in all honesty if if I have that much mana I'm turning 8 troublesome lands white instead
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LAND
30 Snow-Covered Plains
1 Emeria, the Sky Ruin
1 Scrying Sheets
1 Serra's Sanctum
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Mistveil Plains
1 Thawing Glaciers
1 Dust Bowl
1 Vesuva
CREATURES
1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
1 Weathered Wayfarer
1 Magus of the Disk
1 World Queller
1 Sun Titan
1 Academy Rector
1 Felidar Sovereign
1 Serra Ascendant
1 Eternal Dragon
1 Baneslayer Angel
1 Twilight Shepherd
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Steel Hellkite
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Duplicant
1 Sol Ring
1 Gauntlet of Power
1 Extraplanar Lens
1 Caged Sun
1 Expedition Map
1 Scroll Rack
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Planar Portal
1 Mind's Eye
1 Crystal Ball
1 Skullclamp
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Swiftfoot Boots
PLANESWALKERS
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Elspeth Tirel
1 Ajani Goldmane
1 Karn Liberated
INSTANTS
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Path to Exile
1 Condemn
1 Oblation
1 Return to Dust
1 Argivian Find
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Rout
1 Wrath of God
1 Day of Judgment
1 Austere Command
1 Akroma's Vengeance
1 Planar Cleansing
1 All is Dust
1 Idyllic Tutor
1 Mine Excavation
1 Replenish
ENCHANTMENTS
1 Prison Term
1 Faith's Fetters
1 Sacred Mesa
1 Aura of Silence
1 Land Tax
1 Ivory Mask
1 Test of Endurance
1 Luminarch Ascension
1 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Story Circle
1 Circle of Protection: White
1 Rune of Protection: White
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I love World Queller. Its 1 of My favorite creatures in this deck.
Mass Calcify is no good for Me. Too much White gets played in my play group. I tried Reya in early versions of this deck. Its too expensive and Emeria makes it kind of redundant.
o if you could check out my deck list the thread is Sen Triplets.EDH i need help tweaking it
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Also, most equipment are really solid in 8.5tails. if you can get jitte, do it.
Good luck!!!
EDIT: oh and Stonehewer Giant!!!! The card is INSANE.
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Pentarch Paladin would require adding something like flickerform to make it playable. I'm not too keen on removal that costs so much to set up. I'd rather just play a sweeper.
Sword of Light and Shadow would probably be good if I can get hold of 1.
I know the Voltron style works well with Eight-and-a-Half-Tails but I really wanted to play a control deck.
Have you considered rule of law or lapse of certainty?
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UBR Bolas Goodstuff
Combo hasn't been much of a problem for Me. The only combo decks I play this regularly against are My Wort, Boggart Auntie and a Nicol Bolas Storm combo deck. In both cases if they can't win fast vs this deck they can't win at all.
I haven't considered either of those cards. I don't think effects like that are really needed, Rule of Law in particular. 1 deck I've been playing against a lot lately is Erayo, Soratami Ascendant with Arcane Laboratory and I wouldn't want to inflict similar misery on the people I play with.
Why would it require Flickerform? You name white when it comes into play and turn permanents white with your general, seems really solid to me.
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That's a good point. I was drunk when I made that post and hadn't considered it since. Thank You for pointing out what should have been obvious.
I"ve done some testing with it now. It isn't is good in practice as it is is theory
Emeria seems like a primary win condition. Petrified Field and Crucible of Worlds seem like ideal ways to keep that sucker in play. Knight of the White Orchid helps the ramp as much as white can.
I've always felt that planeswalkers were pretty underwhelming in the format. Tails lets you protect Knight-Errant I suppose and indestructible things are nice. But Tirel seems like nothing more than a lifegain engine or a token engine. If you were using her as a wrath, I think I'd prefer final judgment.
I feel like with how strong of a control deck mono white lends itself to be, Aven Mindsensor seems way too strong not to run. And he can definitely be protected for a while too.
Unsure how often your creatures ever seal the game, but Ghostway could prove to be effective.
Finally, as I'm sure of the potential of All is Dust + Tails making opponents permanents white, have you ever thought about running It That Betrays? Granted it would cost 19, which means at least 10 land with Gauntlet / Caged Sun / Lens. So it definitely seems more cute than it does anything else. But it could be another win con. Or you could just make people sac all their ish.
Let me start by saying this is My best friend's deck and the explanations I'll give are His logic and not My own.
Emeria could probably be considered a win condition but it's not the primary. In order they would go Felidar Soveriegn, Test of Endurance, Luminarch Ascension, Sacred Mesa, then Emeria
The recursion package in this deck is awesome as it is. If somebody kills off Emeria We either get it back with Sun Titan or use Mistveil Plains to put it on the bottom of the deck and tutor it out
They serve their purposes here. Knight-Errant in a deck that can control the board like this goes indestructible stuffs for Me way more often than it should. You're right about Tirel, she is mostly a life gain/dude engine and Ajani plays a similar role, but at our table even they draw the hate. As for Karn, everybody seems to throw everything at Him
He was in there for a while but got cut for not doing enough. There wasn't a lot of tutoring going on at our table at the time. I really should put Him back in.
It really didn't help when We tried. At our table this is "the sweeper deck" and there isn't enough ETB effects to make it worth while
I've thought about it but in all honesty if if I have that much mana I'm turning 8 troublesome lands white instead