Fixing by color combination

TakeABow · 07-31-2010, 04:43 PM

The goal here is to rate mana fixers for each color pair (especially how they tend to play in the cube).

The Duals, Fetches, and Shocklands are obviously at the top of the list, so we are concerned with the rest. This does not only include lands!

So for each color pair, rank your top 3 fixers:

Some of common options:
Karoos, Signets, Painlands, Filterlands.

And other miscellaneous fixers (such as Horizon Canopy for G/W or Creeping Tar Pit for U/B) can be throw in also.

I will keep track of the results here. A vote for 1st place is worth 3 points, 2nd is worth 2, and 3rd place is worth 1. Cards will be ranked per section (color combination) by point total.

Results:

Pringlesman · 07-31-2010, 05:15 PM

I'm not sure that the signets should be comepteing for the same slot as a land. Some of us have discussed having a mana fixing section but I don't think any of us like the idea.

WU
1 Celestial Colonade (win stick + mana fixing)
2 Bounceland
3 Signet (Filter if we just do land)

UB
1 Manland
2 Bounceland
3 Signet (filter if we just do land)

BR
1 Manland
2 Pain
3 Filter

RG
1 Manland
2 Pain
3 Filter

GW
1 Horizon Canopy
2 Man Land
3 Filter

WB
1 Filter
2 Bounceland
3 Pain

BG
1 Filter
2 Bounceland
3 Pain

GU
1 Bounceland
2 Filter
3 Signet

UR
1 Bounceland
2 Filter
3 Signet

RW
1 Pain
2 Filter
3 ...Signet I guess?

TakeABow · 08-01-2010, 02:16 AM

This is more of a "if I am in this color combination, and I were to see all the options in one pack, which card would I take?" Analysis.

magicmerl · 08-01-2010, 02:49 AM

WU
1 Manland
2 Signet
3 Bounceland

UB
1 Manland
2 Bounceland
3 Signet

BR (2 and 3 are so close)
1 Manland
2 Pain
3 Filter

RG
1 Manland
2 Pain
3 Filter

GW
1 Man Land
2 Horizon Canopy
3 Karoo

WB
1 Filter
2 Bounceland
3 Pain

BG
1 Bounceland
2 Filter
3 Pain

GU
1 Bounceland
2 Signet
3 Filter

UR
1 Bounceland
2 Signet
3 Filter

RW
1 Filter
2 Pain
3 Signet

eidolon232 · 08-01-2010, 03:13 AM

Quote:

This is more of a "if I am in this color combination, and I were to see all the options in one pack, which card would I take?" Analysis.

The problem here is that the pick order changes a lot, depending on what deck you are drafting, especially in

,

or

.

Fredo · 08-01-2010, 06:33 AM

:
Creeping Tar Pit
Sunken Ruins
Dimir Signet

:

Sulfurous Springs
Lavaclaw Reaches
Rakdos Signet

:

Karplusan Forest
Raging Ravine
Gruul Signet

:

Horizon Canopy
Stirring Wildwood
Selesnya Signet

:

Mystic Gate
Celestial Colonnade
Azorius Signet

:

Cascade Bluffs
Izzet Signet
Shivan Reef

:

Battlefield Forge
Boros Signet
Rugged Prairie

:

Fetid Heath
Orzhov Signet
Caves of Koilos

:

Twilight Mire
Golgari Signet
Llanowar Wastes

:

Flooded Grove
Simic Signet
Yavimaya Coast

TakeABow · 08-01-2010, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eidolon232

The problem here is that the pick order changes a lot, depending on what deck you are drafting, especially in

,

or

.

Maybe weight your answers based on what deck(s) you are most likely to be playing in those combinations?

eidolon232 · 08-01-2010, 01:15 PM

The decks that I like to draft in those color combination aren't representative for what my playgroup usually plays.

wtwlf123 · 08-01-2010, 02:52 PM

WU

WWK Manland
Signet
Bounceland

UB

WWK Manland
Bounceland
Signet

BR

Painland
WWK Manland
Filter Land

RG

Pain Land
WWK Manland
Filter Land

GW

Horizon Canopy
WWK Manland
Painland

WR

Painland
Filter Land
Bounce Land

WB

Painland
Filter Land
Signet

UR

Bounceland
Signet
Filter Land

UG

Signet
Bounceland
Filter Land

BG

Painland
Signet
Filter Land

magicmerl · 08-01-2010, 02:56 PM

Also, this should be in the main forum?

TakeABow · 08-01-2010, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magicmerl

Also, this should be in the main forum?

This seemed like a 'project'.

OP updated.

UltraOrange · 08-02-2010, 05:51 AM

WU
1 Manland
2 Signet
3 Bounceland

UB
1 Manland
2 Bounceland
3 Signet

BR
1 Painland
2 Filter Land
3 Manland

RG
1 Pain Land
2 Manland
3 Signet

GW
1 Horizon Canopy
2 Manland
3 Painland

WR
1 Painland
2 Filter Land
3 Bounceland

WB
1 Filter Land
2 Painland
3 Signet

UR
1 Bounceland
2 Signet
3 Filter Land

UG
1 Bounceland
2 Signet
3 Filter Land

BG
1 Painland
2 Signet
3 Filter Land

TakeABow · 08-02-2010, 04:04 PM

Op Updated again.

With a few more voters we should start to be able to draw some reasonable conclusions.

bondafong · 08-03-2010, 03:07 AM

I wonder why noone voted for Talismans... I think they are better than signets at most times. With a single land and a Talisman you can hold mana up for counterspell and removal at the same time. With Signets you cant hold up countermana.

WU
1 Manland
2 Talisman
3 Signet
(4 Bounceland)

UB
1 Manland
2 Talisman
3 Signet
(4 Bounceland)

BR
1 Painland
2 Manland
3 Filter Land
(4 Bounceland)

RG
1 Manland
2 Painland
3 Talisman
(4 Signet)

GW
1 Manland
2 Horizon Canopy
3 Painland
(4 Talisman)

WR
1 Painland
2 Bounceland
3 Filter Land

WB
1 Painland
2 Bounceland
3 Signet
(4 Filter Land)

UR
1 Bounceland
2 Signet
3 Filter Land

UG
1 Bounceland
2 Signet
3 Filter Land

BG
1 Bounceland
2 Signet
3 Painland
(4 Filter Lan)

07-31-2010, 04:43 PM	#1
TakeABow Archmage Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 959	Fixing by color combination The goal here is to rate mana fixers for each color pair (especially how they tend to play in the cube). The Duals, Fetches, and Shocklands are obviously at the top of the list, so we are concerned with the rest. This does not only include lands! So for each color pair, rank your top 3 fixers: Some of common options: Karoos, Signets, Painlands, Filterlands. And other miscellaneous fixers (such as Horizon Canopy for G/W or Creeping Tar Pit for U/B) can be throw in also. I will keep track of the results here. A vote for 1st place is worth 3 points, 2nd is worth 2, and 3rd place is worth 1. Cards will be ranked per section (color combination) by point total. Results: __________________ - [TakeABow's Powered Cube] - Last edited by TakeABow : 08-02-2010 at 04:04 PM.

07-31-2010, 05:15 PM	#2
Pringlesman Half Man, Half Potato Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,530	I'm not sure that the signets should be comepteing for the same slot as a land. Some of us have discussed having a mana fixing section but I don't think any of us like the idea. WU 1 Celestial Colonade (win stick + mana fixing) 2 Bounceland 3 Signet (Filter if we just do land) UB 1 Manland 2 Bounceland 3 Signet (filter if we just do land) BR 1 Manland 2 Pain 3 Filter RG 1 Manland 2 Pain 3 Filter GW 1 Horizon Canopy 2 Man Land 3 Filter WB 1 Filter 2 Bounceland 3 Pain BG 1 Filter 2 Bounceland 3 Pain GU 1 Bounceland 2 Filter 3 Signet UR 1 Bounceland 2 Filter 3 Signet RW 1 Pain 2 Filter 3 ...Signet I guess? __________________ That's the remarkable thing about life. It's never so bad that it can't get worse Calvin and Hobbes My Cube/Cube Thread FAQ/Cube Chat Room

08-01-2010, 02:16 AM	#3
TakeABow Archmage Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 959	This is more of a "if I am in this color combination, and I were to see all the options in one pack, which card would I take?" Analysis. __________________ - [TakeABow's Powered Cube] -

08-01-2010, 06:33 AM	#6
Fredo Wizard Mentor Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brussels Posts: 662	: Creeping Tar Pit Sunken Ruins Dimir Signet : Sulfurous Springs Lavaclaw Reaches Rakdos Signet : Karplusan Forest Raging Ravine Gruul Signet : Horizon Canopy Stirring Wildwood Selesnya Signet : Mystic Gate Celestial Colonnade Azorius Signet : Cascade Bluffs Izzet Signet Shivan Reef : Battlefield Forge Boros Signet Rugged Prairie : Fetid Heath Orzhov Signet Caves of Koilos : Twilight Mire Golgari Signet Llanowar Wastes : Flooded Grove Simic Signet Yavimaya Coast __________________ My 555 Power Cube Last edited by Fredo : 08-01-2010 at 06:35 AM. Reason: minor correction

08-01-2010, 01:15 PM	#8
eidolon232 Resident Planeswalker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bavaria Posts: 3,318	The decks that I like to draft in those color combination aren't representative for what my playgroup usually plays. __________________ eidolon232's cube: 450+ cards, unpowered - last update: 09 03 cube comparison thread: always current data of 43 unpowered + 38 powered cubes - new cubers welcome!


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wtwlf123 Cube Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 10,257	WU WWK Manland Signet Bounceland UB WWK Manland Bounceland Signet BR Painland WWK Manland Filter Land RG Pain Land WWK Manland Filter Land GW Horizon Canopy WWK Manland Painland WR Painland Filter Land Bounce Land WB Painland Filter Land Signet UR Bounceland Signet Filter Land UG Signet Bounceland Filter Land BG Painland Signet Filter Land __________________ My Cube My Article

08-02-2010, 05:51 AM	#12
UltraOrange Experienced Mage Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 73	WU 1 Manland 2 Signet 3 Bounceland UB 1 Manland 2 Bounceland 3 Signet BR 1 Painland 2 Filter Land 3 Manland RG 1 Pain Land 2 Manland 3 Signet GW 1 Horizon Canopy 2 Manland 3 Painland WR 1 Painland 2 Filter Land 3 Bounceland WB 1 Filter Land 2 Painland 3 Signet UR 1 Bounceland 2 Signet 3 Filter Land UG 1 Bounceland 2 Signet 3 Filter Land BG 1 Painland 2 Signet 3 Filter Land

08-02-2010, 04:04 PM	#13
TakeABow Archmage Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 959	Op Updated again. With a few more voters we should start to be able to draw some reasonable conclusions. __________________ - [TakeABow's Powered Cube] -

08-03-2010, 03:07 AM	#14
bondafong Hobo Lord Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,186	I wonder why noone voted for Talismans... I think they are better than signets at most times. With a single land and a Talisman you can hold mana up for counterspell and removal at the same time. With Signets you cant hold up countermana. WU 1 Manland 2 Talisman 3 Signet (4 Bounceland) UB 1 Manland 2 Talisman 3 Signet (4 Bounceland) BR 1 Painland 2 Manland 3 Filter Land (4 Bounceland) RG 1 Manland 2 Painland 3 Talisman (4 Signet) GW 1 Manland 2 Horizon Canopy 3 Painland (4 Talisman) WR 1 Painland 2 Bounceland 3 Filter Land WB 1 Painland 2 Bounceland 3 Signet (4 Filter Land) UR 1 Bounceland 2 Signet 3 Filter Land UG 1 Bounceland 2 Signet 3 Filter Land BG 1 Bounceland 2 Signet 3 Painland (4 Filter Lan) __________________ My Main Cube My Tribal Cube

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