Hello everybody. This is my Karador Commander(EDH) deck.(Previously Teneb, The Harvester).
I have had this deck for probably about 6 months now (in one form or another) and I can honestly say it is my favorite EDH deck that I've built to date.
Most of the card choices should speak for themselves I think. If anybody has any questions about anything, please, feel free to ask, and i will answer to the best of my ability.
**Updated 10/24/11 from memory, on my phone, to include Innistrad.
Will be updated completely soon.
**Thoughts on Innistrad**
-Bloodgift Demon has been amazing.
-Fiend Hunter is an awesome utility creature for this deck.
-Mentor has been decent, though haven't drawn him much.
It looks fairly solid. Like I said on the thread, I would consider Spore Frog/Kami of False Hope. Recurring Fogs makes something like Kaalia really mad
Also, I know it's blasphemy, but I might consider nixing Top. I rarely find myself with the extra mana available.
It looks fairly solid. Like I said on the thread, I would consider Spore Frog/Kami of False Hope. Recurring Fogs makes something like Kaalia really mad
Also, I know it's blasphemy, but I might consider nixing Top. I rarely find myself with the extra mana available.
The next time I am at my lgs I'm definately pick up spore frog.
As for top I see what your saying. I don't use it to much myself, but when it's good, it's good. Something I am gonna have to think about.
Tooth and Nail is often a total house. If you use it to find Avenger of Zendikar and Primeval Titan you can usually take home a win. If I were you I'd also keep my eye out for Rune-Scarred Demon from M12... he's gonna be great in EDH.
For any more suggestions you can check my list out, but yours looks really solid (and pretty similar).
I'm also wondering about the lack of Putrefy/Mortify is? They are definitely better than Soul Snare and probably O-Ring.
They used to be in the deck. I've gone in favor of having more permanents in my build. If anything I am probably overboard on the removal (the 4 sweepers, stp, pte, not to mention hilarity from butcher and viscera seer). But I like that both o-ring and Soul Snare get recurred by Sun Titan. They've both served me well so far.
What are your thoughts?
Also I need to update the first post when I get on a computer. I've updated my list slightly.
Eh, there were only like 2 people today (bet people are off on trips and things)
Ah well, there is always next week. However I did win all but one of the 1v1 games I did. Let it be noted I also got turn 1 Sol Ring every game. No joke.
I play a very similar build to this one, it seems great minds do think alike.
I run a handful of different cards, Putrefy and Mortify are extremely good since they can handle artifact/enchantments as well. I do not run the equipment package, but that is a nice idea so I may have to test it out. Glory is a great creature to toss in the graveyard for extra protection or a kill swing. Corpse Connoisseur is essentially a tutor in this deck and better than cards like Entomb or Buried Alive since it is a creature. Also it recurs itself once or as many times as you want with Karador.
If I ever manage to put my EDH deck lists up, I'll make sure I post a link here if you want to look at it.
Alright. I took this apart for a couple weeks but its back together in anticipation of my lgs EDH leagie coming up. When I get to a computer I will update the OP.
I play a very similar build to this one, it seems great minds do think alike.
I run a handful of different cards, Putrefy and Mortify are extremely good since they can handle artifact/enchantments as well. I do not run the equipment package, but that is a nice idea so I may have to test it out. Glory is a great creature to toss in the graveyard for extra protection or a kill swing. Corpse Connoisseur is essentially a tutor in this deck and better than cards like Entomb or Buried Alive since it is a creature. Also it recurs itself once or as many times as you want with Karador.
If I ever manage to put my EDH deck lists up, I'll make sure I post a link here if you want to look at it.
Thanks. I explain a couple comments above my reasoning against putrefy/mortify although I do think they are great cards. Between Qasali Pridemage, Acidic Slime, Indrik Stomphowler, Woodfall Primus, Terastodon, O-Ring, and Maelstrom pulse I am not usually worried about not having removal for artifacts/enchantments.
Edit: derp, forgot the obvious, K-Grip and Aura Shards as well.
Buried alive is usually a blowout. Corpse Connoissuer is something I had considered, but Buried Alive's job is to either grab 3 utility creatures early to get Karador out sooner and start gettinh value, or right before a living Death to ensure I have the dominant board position.
The other issue I have though is what to cut?:(
Who thought a 99 card singleton format could be so restrictive?
As for Glory, as soon as I get one It will replace brawn.
If you do get a chance to post your list I would love to see it. Thanks again for your comments.
you don't run any sort of ramp..but i suggest wood elves and krosan tusker. tusker might be better than eternal dragon in karador decks in general, but we'll see.
birthing pod - your deck runs a greater spread of creatures across many CMC ranges, so i reckon birthing pod will be abused (ABUSED!) to hell in it.
woodfall primus into iona anyone? or for a longer version, how about simulacrum/rector into stomphowler/archon of justice into sun titan into sheoldred into primus etc etc. you get the point
anyways, our two decks are unique in their own ways. i see yours as placing emphasis on drawing and playing creatures for their ETB effects. card advantage engines like phyrexian arena, greater good or fecundity have a better place in it.
however mine tries to dredge itself, which is why i should cut down on my sweepers (but textless cards are so slick dammit).
If theres a non-creature permanent that does something I.E. Survival of the Fittest, and a creature (Fauna Shaman) that does the same thing, I want to have the creature.
Swap Shared Trauma for Genesis Wave. Trauma doesn't look like it will help you much and may even help your opponents (50% of the games I've played have had a Mimeoplasm player and they like their graveyard more than you).
I think you should also run more tutors. It makes your deck act like it has more creatures yet makes it so you get the same creatures every game so you can see how effective each one is.
Thanks for the comments guys!! When I get on a computer I will adress all of them.
The deck was actually taken apart for a bit, but I am going to rebuild it soon. I've been gutting it for other decks but as I have been able to acquire more cards recently that will no longer be an issue.(crackin a prime time last week helped lol).
@Disruptive1 I'll comment on your comments(lol) later but I wanted to say that I did not know crime/punisent was a card and I will be adding it in the future!!
Edit: Re-made the list again. Will update tonight or tomorrow. But birthing pod is in, and im having a hard time justifying SFM. Suggestions?
It looks like your curve is centered pretty high. It's only an observation from the list so I could be wrong, but I'd check to make sure. Also, I'd swap out Day for Oblivion Stone. I've found it to be a house with Sun Titan, espescially after sacing a Dauntless Escort. Just something you might consider. Great list and good luck to you.
Oblivion stone is good, but mine is in my Azusa list. If I come across another it goes in my Akroma deck:(. I have however added Pernicious Deed. I do want swap out damnation for something like Akroma's Vengeance. My Doj is full art foil player rewards one, and i'd like to keep it.
Krosan Tusker seems good and for 10¢ I'd be dumb not to try it.
I don't think the sage is what I want. I don't see myself wanting to reanimate him when I have better targets.
I have had this deck for probably about 6 months now (in one form or another) and I can honestly say it is my favorite EDH deck that I've built to date.
1 Karador, Ghost Cheiftain
Creatures
1 Sheoldred, Whispering One
1 Sun Titan
1 Archon of Justice
1 Eternal Witness
1 Mentor of the Meek
1 Splinterfright
1 Massacre Wurm
1 Fiend Hunter
1 Sewer Nemesis
1 Bloodgift Demon
1 Phyrexian Revoker
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Indrik Stomphowler
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Riftsweeper
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Fleshbag Marauder
1 Stink-Weed Imp
1 Reveillark
1 Butcher of Malakir
1 Fauna Shaman
1 Dauntless Escort
1 Karmic Guide
1 Sylvan Ranger
1 Primeval Titan
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Knight of the Reliquary
1 Brawn
1 Fierce Empath
1 Baneslayer Angel
1 Yavimaya Elder
1 Oracle of Mul Daya
1 Yavimaya Dryad
1 Lord of Extinction
1 Acidic Slime
1 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Viscera Seer
1 Krosan Grip
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Path to Exile
1 Beast Within
Artifacts
1 Phyrexian Altar
1 Mimic Vat
1 Birthing Pod
Enchantments
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Greater Good
1 Aura Shards
1 Soul Snare
1 Pernicious Deed
Equipment
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
1 Loxodon Warhammer
Sorcery
1 Buried Alive
1 Day of Judgment
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Life from the Loam
1 Wrath of God
1 Unburial Rites
1 Living Death
1 Damnation
Lands
1 Stirring Wildwood
1 Woodland Cemetery
1 Isolated Chapel
1 Sunpetal Grove
1 Murmuring Bosk
1 Temple of the False God
1 Command Tower
1 Svogthos, the Restless Tomb
1 Grim Backwoods
1 Vault of the Archangel
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Sejiri Steppe
1 Mosswort Bridge
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Tainted Wood
1 Tainted Field
1 Barren Moor
1 Tranquil Thicket
1 Secluded Steppe
1 Marsh Flats
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Windswept Heath
1 Fetid Heath
1 Twilight Mire
1 Wooded Bastion
1 Selesnya Sanctuary
1 Orzhov Basilica
1 Golgari Rot Farm
1 Bayou
1 Savannah
1 Scrubland
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Temple Garden
1 Godless Shrine
1 Forest
1 Swamp
1 Plains
Most of the card choices should speak for themselves I think. If anybody has any questions about anything, please, feel free to ask, and i will answer to the best of my ability.
**Updated 10/24/11 from memory, on my phone, to include Innistrad.
Will be updated completely soon.
**Thoughts on Innistrad**
-Bloodgift Demon has been amazing.
-Fiend Hunter is an awesome utility creature for this deck.
-Mentor has been decent, though haven't drawn him much.
***This list probably isn't budget anymore.
Thank You:)
Cube 360 cards, unpowered.
Modern:
URStormUR
Block
RWHumansRW
URGStalkerURG
Also, I know it's blasphemy, but I might consider nixing Top. I rarely find myself with the extra mana available.
The next time I am at my lgs I'm definately pick up spore frog.
As for top I see what your saying. I don't use it to much myself, but when it's good, it's good. Something I am gonna have to think about.
Cube 360 cards, unpowered.
Modern:
URStormUR
Block
RWHumansRW
URGStalkerURG
For any more suggestions you can check my list out, but yours looks really solid (and pretty similar).
UBR Thrax
They used to be in the deck. I've gone in favor of having more permanents in my build. If anything I am probably overboard on the removal (the 4 sweepers, stp, pte, not to mention hilarity from butcher and viscera seer). But I like that both o-ring and Soul Snare get recurred by Sun Titan. They've both served me well so far.
What are your thoughts?
Also I need to update the first post when I get on a computer. I've updated my list slightly.
Cube 360 cards, unpowered.
Modern:
URStormUR
Block
RWHumansRW
URGStalkerURG
Also, Viscera Seer has served me well so far in the 1v1 games with my brother. Will get to test it with my group tonight.
Id love to hear how you do.
Cube 360 cards, unpowered.
Modern:
URStormUR
Block
RWHumansRW
URGStalkerURG
Ah well, there is always next week. However I did win all but one of the 1v1 games I did. Let it be noted I also got turn 1 Sol Ring every game. No joke.
I run a handful of different cards, Putrefy and Mortify are extremely good since they can handle artifact/enchantments as well. I do not run the equipment package, but that is a nice idea so I may have to test it out. Glory is a great creature to toss in the graveyard for extra protection or a kill swing. Corpse Connoisseur is essentially a tutor in this deck and better than cards like Entomb or Buried Alive since it is a creature. Also it recurs itself once or as many times as you want with Karador.
If I ever manage to put my EDH deck lists up, I'll make sure I post a link here if you want to look at it.
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Cube 360 cards, unpowered.
Modern:
URStormUR
Block
RWHumansRW
URGStalkerURG
Thanks. I explain a couple comments above my reasoning against putrefy/mortify although I do think they are great cards. Between Qasali Pridemage, Acidic Slime, Indrik Stomphowler, Woodfall Primus, Terastodon, O-Ring, and Maelstrom pulse I am not usually worried about not having removal for artifacts/enchantments.
Edit: derp, forgot the obvious, K-Grip and Aura Shards as well.
Buried alive is usually a blowout. Corpse Connoissuer is something I had considered, but Buried Alive's job is to either grab 3 utility creatures early to get Karador out sooner and start gettinh value, or right before a living Death to ensure I have the dominant board position.
The other issue I have though is what to cut?:(
Who thought a 99 card singleton format could be so restrictive?
As for Glory, as soon as I get one It will replace brawn.
If you do get a chance to post your list I would love to see it. Thanks again for your comments.
Cube 360 cards, unpowered.
Modern:
URStormUR
Block
RWHumansRW
URGStalkerURG
run academy rector to get them.
since you love sac outlets, maybe attrition w/ skullclamp? how about phyrexian tower to accel your mana?
and run weathered wayfarer to get the tower.
and ranger of eos to get that.
you don't run any sort of ramp..but i suggest wood elves and krosan tusker. tusker might be better than eternal dragon in karador decks in general, but we'll see.
birthing pod - your deck runs a greater spread of creatures across many CMC ranges, so i reckon birthing pod will be abused (ABUSED!) to hell in it.
woodfall primus into iona anyone? or for a longer version, how about simulacrum/rector into stomphowler/archon of justice into sun titan into sheoldred into primus etc etc. you get the point
anyways, our two decks are unique in their own ways. i see yours as placing emphasis on drawing and playing creatures for their ETB effects. card advantage engines like phyrexian arena, greater good or fecundity have a better place in it.
however mine tries to dredge itself, which is why i should cut down on my sweepers (but textless cards are so slick dammit).
lmk what you think!
EDIT: sorry for the bluntness before!
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4. Selvala GW Combo
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Swap Batterskull for Celestial Force.
Swap Krosan Grip for Ray of Distortion or Return to Dust. There's really nothing in EDH that would make Split Second better than stopping another artifact/enchantment.
Swap Shared Trauma for Genesis Wave. Trauma doesn't look like it will help you much and may even help your opponents (50% of the games I've played have had a Mimeoplasm player and they like their graveyard more than you).
Swap //gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&name=+[%22sword%20of%22">+[and]"]Sword of Whatever for Seedborn Muse. Swords aren't very good in multiplayer.
Swap Lightning Greaves with Darksteel Plate. It's probably better for your deck.
Swap Oblivion Ring with Exclusion Ritual (so the permanent doesn't come back).
Swap Soul Snare with Iona's Judgment or Unmake.
Swap Lurking Predators with Garruk's Horde.
Swap Riftsweeper with Pull From Eternity. It will be easier to retrieve whatever you get back.
Why don't you play Crime // Punishment? It's freakin' awesome!
I think you should also run more tutors. It makes your deck act like it has more creatures yet makes it so you get the same creatures every game so you can see how effective each one is.
The deck was actually taken apart for a bit, but I am going to rebuild it soon. I've been gutting it for other decks but as I have been able to acquire more cards recently that will no longer be an issue.(crackin a prime time last week helped lol).
@Disruptive1 I'll comment on your comments(lol) later but I wanted to say that I did not know crime/punisent was a card and I will be adding it in the future!!
Edit: Re-made the list again. Will update tonight or tomorrow. But birthing pod is in, and im having a hard time justifying SFM. Suggestions?
Cube 360 cards, unpowered.
Modern:
URStormUR
Block
RWHumansRW
URGStalkerURG
n0 c0mb0z Sharuum:symw::symu::symb:
Seton Druid Party:symg:
Drana Big Mana Black
Baru Landfall:symg:
Venser:symu:
Animar tempo:symu::symr::symg: (Retired)Azami, Lady of Card Advantage(Retired =[ )Primordial Sage turns all your creatures into cantrips (and is a creature).
Krosan Tusker seems good and for 10¢ I'd be dumb not to try it.
I don't think the sage is what I want. I don't see myself wanting to reanimate him when I have better targets.
Thanks for the input guys!!!
Cube 360 cards, unpowered.
Modern:
URStormUR
Block
RWHumansRW
URGStalkerURG