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Ascended Mage
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Very interesting article and video on Mike McQueary and whether Penn State should have football.
http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/s...otball-culture Quote:
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Shutting down the football program only hurts the student athletes. They've already gotten rid of everyone in charge, why hurt the kids with futures?
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Archmage Overlord
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: southern Germany
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Well they are students first, athletes second.
Sports should always be the second thing, its a university. A player could also break his leg the first day so that he can´t play football anymore and would have to be a normal student like anyone elses. Taking away a program punishes nobody, they can just do other things in their freetime. And I don´t know about football, but at least in soccer, and other teamsports there are a lot of "weekend leagues" where they can play. Or if they are really that much into it, and think they have to play football or the university time is worthless, they can change the university. Wit all the mess at PSU, a clean cut would be the best because it would allow a new beginning without even a possiblity, that one who was involved but maybe not enough to punish him, is still in the program. |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Leesville, SC
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Taking away a program punishes a lot of people who had nothing to do with the situation. Some victims have spoken out against the Joe Pa firing. I don't think punishing so many people for the actions of a dozen or so people is really the best answer in this situation. Clean house of the program? Sure, but taking it away for a while or long term would be terrible for many people that rely on PSU football. Is that really what is best here?
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Immortal One
Join Date: Sep 2007
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The second mile foundations reputation is trashed.
Plus Curley reported the 2002 incident to the board, and they did nothing. The foundation had revenues of $2.6 million in 2010, which sounds like a lot, but that's tiny considering it had the full backing of Penn state. http://www.thesecondmile.org/pdf/AnnualReport2010.pdf I think they can easily replace this foundation with another one backed by Penn State, with a different, untainted board, and no history of abetting anal rape of 10 year olds. - As for getting rid of the football program, that seems pretty pointless, and besides it's never going to happen. May need to have a clean sweep of the upper administration, and obviously a new coach with no Paterno-taint on him. At any rate, a new head coach will bring all his own staff with him. Last edited by dcartist; 11-12-2011 at 09:57 AM. |
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Wizard Mentor
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Portland,OR
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Penn State without football would kill the college. Sports bring in more money than tuition and generally is what keeps tuition down at colleges like that. It provides opportunity for more than just the athletes involved in them. It also provides jobs for hundreds if not thousands of people in the community depending on the scale of the sports teams at the college.
It's unfortunate that they covered this up; because it wouldnt be even half the scandal for the college that it is. However the students at the school shouldn't ever be the ones punished. 18 doesnt make you any less of a child than 17. neither does 21 or 22 for a lot of people. Clearly even though the author of that article is a Lawyer and a senior writer for ESPN he has no clue what he is talking about in this article. He should stick to writing about the LAW and stay out of things he doesn't fully grasp. |
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Archmage Overlord
Join Date: Dec 2010
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So the disappearance of a SPORTS team is enough to kill a UNIVERSITY, where people primarily go to learn?
Sounds like something is totally wrong within the system. quod erat demonstrandum If this is the case shouldn´t there be alarm bells ringing everywhere that this has to be changed, that the importance of college sports has to be reduced a lot? |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Any yes, many businesses would be severely hurt since they can depend on gameday revenue to move into the black. The football programs provides jobs for many people and businesses. Each of these would be affected by the end of a football program. I don't know where anyone said the university would close. Can you come up with a good reason to negatively affect the lives of so many people because a small number made some horrible and awful decisions? Just because a few coaches made poor choices does not mean hundreds involved with a program should lose everything.
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Would the gap of no football at Penn State be filled with more football at other places? I don't think the economy will be lost, it will just move to other places. No?
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Immortal One
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Take college football away from happy valley and the economy of the area would be crushed. The town more or less thrives off of the college and the influx of visitors for football. I cant see the town surviving for long without the biggest draw to the area.
There are many college towns like that in the country. Most one A schools have that effect on their surrounding community. |
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Winter Child
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Iowa
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Yeah, you have to remember, the kids playing College football are there to learn and be studens, however, the real goal for them is to make it big and get drafted into the NFL. When Penn State recruited it's players (and yes, colleges go out and recruit people to play) it made a promise to those players that they picked up, they promised that they will offer a football program for the student to showcase their talents, in exchange for being a member of their team. If you take this away, you're taking away the dreams of several people on the team.
Also, college sports teams do drive up local business. I live in Champaign Illinois and work at a drug store. On game day, we get a ton of business, and we're not even near the field. Food service business boom on game day, because all of the people that came from out of town want to eat somewhere. Removing that would kill part of the economy, which as we all know, would make things so much worse than it already is right now. |
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