Beguiler of Wills

[forgedinhell]

i dont want to just hate on a mythic, but i dont see this being playable in any capacity

the only way it does anything decent is if its dead with a Lich or Necrotic Ooze in play, other than that, how could you tap out for a 1/1?

its a decent ability but its not even that great, so my question is: Why waste a mythic slot on this?

[NobodyAkagi]

Mythic isn't about powerlevel, it's about effect, and I must admit that mind control on a stick is a truly mythological effect.

It will obviously see play in commander and other casual formats since it is really cool and with enough support it can take over a game and it might even see play in some weird token deck(though I doubt it)

[Crimson]

Originally Posted by forgedinhell

i dont want to just hate on a mythic, but i dont see this being playable in any capacity

the only way it does anything decent is if its dead with a Lich or Necrotic Ooze in play, other than that, how could you tap out for a 1/1?

its a decent ability but its not even that great, so my question is: Why waste a mythic slot on this?

For the same reason Cast Through Time was created i.e. casual players

[NerdivoresMTG]

I agree on the 1/1 being not so good, but that is a bomb of an ability. This guy will end up in every Necrotic Ooze/Lich deck in the future for sure, and the whole set hasn't been spoiled yet, so maybe there is some synergy with cards we haven't seen.

[forgedinhell]

I guess thats possible, but i mean something like Mirror-Mad Phantasm is so far out in front of this card, even in the Ooze combo deck, so you could at least use the ability of the Phantasm to protect the Ooze. Why would you bother playing this over that? How many guys can you even expect to have in play by that point?

[Hunfmuh]

People seem to be saying she's good for EDH, but did people forget about Homeward Path? Or maybe the land fell off and no one's using it anymore?

[TheLizard]

You know, at first glance, I thought this was completely unplayable. But after thinking about it, I'm not so sure. Yes, I realize it dies to every removal spell in sight, but there are some decks that just don't play that many. Like UW. And she's pretty good at shutting down Moorland Haunt decks.

Yes, Consecrated Sphinx does exactly the same thing, and a lot else besides, but Consecrated Sphinx won't be around for as long as Moorland Haunt is. Neither will Gut Shot, which is the main thing that makes Beguiler bad. So I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up seeing some sideboard play at some point.

[Starcrash]

Originally Posted by forgedinhell

i dont want to just hate on a mythic, but i dont see this being playable in any capacity

the only way it does anything decent is if its dead with a Lich or Necrotic Ooze in play, other than that, how could you tap out for a 1/1?

its a decent ability but its not even that great, so my question is: Why waste a mythic slot on this?

You seem to be a Standard-Constructed-Only player, I would assume. If you drafted this, you know how valuable it would be? There is very little creature removal in draft games, and it's only a 1/1 by itself but it really is as strong as your opponent's strongest creature since it will soon be yours.

I relish the thought of using it in a Commander deck. If you haven't played this format, it's littered with Eldrazi, and creature theft that can't be removed (like an enchantment) is rare. Besides this, there's Dominate, Riptide Entrancer, Thalakos Deceiver, Bribery, Blatant Thievery, Govern the Guildless, and Memnarch - that's it... and only Memnarch allows you to pull it off more than once. It's a more valuable card than you think... just look outside your particular format.

[mlwspace2005]

Not that im saying it is all that effective but it would be an interesting pod target/effect....no ETB but....moar pod targets lol

[twicky_kid]

Its a permanent gain control. They are not getting their guy back no matter what. Unlike most effects that gain control of creatures they can be removed and its owner gets the creature back. 0 mana to activate.

That is why it is mythic level. Is it good.......hell no. Besides necrotic ooze is loving all the new activated abilities on creatures. Hopefully magic gets back to activated abilities and good play. I really hate this ETB effects making magic super easy to play.

[gereffi]

Bad in Constructed, Bad in EDH, but good in Limited if you're not losing too badly. Dollar bin mythic.

[Popsci]

The only thing I wish they had done with this card would be to make it 4uu and have haste. The one extra mana is annoying but giving it haste doesn't make it a dead card in any format even standard.

The thing is now people need to figure out a way to give it haste. And if that can be achieved simply it is kind of a broken card, if not it will remain OK.

[Scopic]

Originally Posted by NobodyAkagi

Mythic isn't about powerlevel, it's about effect, and I must admit that mind control on a stick is a truly mythological effect.

It will obviously see play in commander and other casual formats since it is really cool and with enough support it can take over a game and it might even see play in some weird token deck(though I doubt it)

Roil Elemental is a rare.

[space_loner]

This would be a rare too if it wasn't permanent (it would also suck even more...)

[Profani]

I admit I want to stick it in a mimic vat though. 3 Mana can I have a creature plz?