Story:
I can't resist making a deck with this legend. My Basandra deck was just not giving me what I wanted, because ultimately her abilities aren't very synergistic. I started to drift more to an equipment deck, and a multiple combat step subtheme, so this new Gatecrash legend revamped my interest in playing and improving my R/W deck! I think she is very well suited to wear some extra gear, as her multiple combat steps mean multiple triggers on Swords of X and Y and a load of general damage. I very much like the fact that she has vigilance as well, so she can also help my deterring strategy.
History:
This is one of the two decks I made. Basandra was included in the Heavenly Inferno deck I bought and was swiftly removed from it for a better beater. But the mechanics and the art are just too nice to leave it lying around! I was experiencing some games where the board clogged up and everybody kept their beaters back in fear of losing them. This creates a stalemate where wrathing the board isn't necessary but nothing really happens either. So I try to make a deck that stimulates attacking. But not in my direction!
Strategy:
Use pillow-fort cards to deter early attackers and ramp. Then alphastike your opponents mid to late game with your general. Hopefully they attacked eachother a bit due to your fort, so you now have less damage to deal. The wincon will be regular combatdamage and general damage.
In multiplayer, they Will however still be forced to attack another player, making it à useful attack deterrent.
Powerstone minefield is an awesome card when forcing creatures to attack. You can check the list in my signature for more ideas.
Gideon's Avenger could become huge if everyone is attacking one another. Stoneforge Mystic could help you tutor up any of your utility equipments, like Darksteel Plate.
If you wanted to go with creature enchantment deterrents like Knighthood, you could consider True Conviction. It pretty much says everyone will stop attacking you if they can help it.
EDIT: While I'm thinking about it, Stonehewer Giant is another way to find ALL of the equipment you need. It adds a lot of tutoring ability to your deck, if you wanted to go that way.
How about Arena to remove some of your opponent's utility creatures as well? Anyway, I hope you do keep updating your deck. I like Basandra and I'd appreciate it if more players updated her.
Thanks for the suggestions! I haven't had much time to spend on EDH but I made some small changes to the deck nevertheless. I added some tutoring so I can get my Sunforger or another useful equipment.
Darien, King of Kjeldor could be a nice addition, but I think I need more ramp/a lower average manacost and I don't know what I should cut for it. Maybe Death by Dragons, but I really like that card flavor-wise.
Haven't had the crescendo out much yet and the vows have been pretty useful to place them on aggressive generals like Rafiq of the Many. But because they aren't easy to recurr unlike spells with Sunforger I think I might indeed cut them for something like Wing Shards!
Just a note, with Basandra in play, you can't play your Wing Shards effectively, even with a Sunforger tutoring it up. I know. I was upset, too.
I've been a big fan of the Exalted Angel I run in my build. It helps to make up for some of the attacks against me when I can't defer them to my opponents at the table. Honestly, I'd put it in place if the Serra Ascendant if I had to make a replacement. I hate that card. It makes you the biggest target at the table, continuing on even if it gets removed, if you get it out in the very early game. Of course it's your choice, but I hate that guy.
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Just a note, with Basandra in play, you can't play your Wing Shards effectively, even with a Sunforger tutoring it up. I know. I was upset, too.
I've been a big fan of the Exalted Angel I run in my build. It helps to make up for some of the attacks against me when I can't defer them to my opponents at the table. Honestly, I'd put it in place if the Serra Ascendant if I had to make a replacement. I hate that card. It makes you the biggest target at the table, continuing on even if it gets removed, if you get it out in the very early game. Of course it's your choice, but I hate that guy.
Fair point on the Shards, but Basandra does not stay around for long usually, so I will probably get enough use out of it. You might also be right about Serra Ascendant but I'd rather replace him (her?) with Baneslayer Angel I think. With all the deterrents I might be able to withstand the hate the critter brings, but it might not be worth it.
A new legend from Gatecrash was just spoiled, and she fits the direction I want to take the deck, so I guess it's time to put Basandra in the 99. Aurelia will take the helm, and hopefully will live up to my expectations. Basandra was a bit underwhelming.
I already had a Sunforger package in there and wanted to add a little more equipments so I added Feast and Famine and War and Peace. I also updated the ramp section.
She's gonna be fantastic with Grafted Exoskeleton turning her into a one-shot commander, sorta. Considering you're already running Godo as well, this gives you a few tools for this. Also, running white artifact tutors means you can consistently have it out and ready to fire.
Also, anything that gives Double Strike/doubles damage. Running both turns her into a one-shot general as well.
She's gonna be fantastic with Grafted Exoskeleton turning her into a one-shot commander, sorta. Considering you're already running Godo as well, this gives you a few tools for this. Also, running white artifact tutors means you can consistently have it out and ready to fire.
Also, anything that gives Double Strike/doubles damage. Running both turns her into a one-shot general as well.
Thanks for the suggestions!
There is literally no infect in my meta yet, so I don't know if they are okay with that kind of thing, but I'll check
As a fellow Boros Angel aficionado, I feel like I should give some input. A combo I was thinking of doing with Aurelia is Spellbinder exiling Flicker and Leonin Shikari with a Sword of Feast and Famine as another way to get infinite attacks. Might be too cute, but I like all of these cards anyway.
As a fellow Boros Angel aficionado, I feel like I should give some input. A combo I was thinking of doing with Aurelia is Spellbinder exiling Flicker and Leonin Shikari with a Sword of Feast and Famine as another way to get infinite attacks. Might be too cute, but I like all of these cards anyway.
Thanks DragonGhola, nice addition to Throst54's suggestion. It's definitily in the cute section. Would work with Puresteel Paladin as well instead of SoFaF? Adds some resilience.
I think I like the Adarkar Valkyrie idea better though, it's a bit easier. Thanks Dh4mpyr!
Have you guys got any ideas on a good white/artifact repeatable sacc outlet that would work?
Just wondering how you plan to deter combo that pillowfort cards have no effect on, or react to control when your pieces are removed since your focus is on pillowfort cards and swinging right now.
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EDH Decks:
Kaalia's Army of AnnhilationRWB
Obzedat, Ghost Council - Life Gain MattersWB
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord - Fatty Reanimator ToolboxBG
Nekusar, the Mindrazer - Draw to DieRBU
Marath, Will of the Wild - Token Pump and TapGWR
Roon of the Hidden Realm - Blink to BleedWBG
There aren't any dedicated combo or control decks in my meta, but I would like your suggestions!
Earlier I had Reiterate and Wild Ricochet to throw a wrench in there sometime (more reliably with Sunforger). Another option would be the appropriate Angel's Grace.
Story:
I can't resist making a deck with this legend. My Basandra deck was just not giving me what I wanted, because ultimately her abilities aren't very synergistic. I started to drift more to an equipment deck, and a multiple combat step subtheme, so this new Gatecrash legend revamped my interest in playing and improving my R/W deck! I think she is very well suited to wear some extra gear, as her multiple combat steps mean multiple triggers on Swords of X and Y and a load of general damage. I very much like the fact that she has vigilance as well, so she can also help my deterring strategy.
History:
Strategy:
Use pillow-fort cards to deter early attackers and ramp. Then alphastike your opponents mid to late game with your general. Hopefully they attacked eachother a bit due to your fort, so you now have less damage to deal. The wincon will be regular combatdamage and general damage.
1x Aurelia, the Warleader
Lands:
10x Mountain
13x Plains
1x Battlefield Forge
1x Emeria, the Sky Ruin
1x Forgotten Cave
1x Hall of the Bandit Lord
1x High Market
1x Kher Keep
1x Kor Haven
1x Mistveil Plains
1x Mystifying Maze
1x Rugged Prairie
1x Sacred Foundry
1x Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep
1x Strip Mine
1x Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion
Weapons and armor:
1x Darksteel Plate
1x Lightning Greaves
1x Loxodon Warhammer
1x Sunforger
1x Swiftfoot Boots
1x Tenza, Godo's Maul
1x Sword of Feast and Famine
1x Sword of War and Peace
Ramp:
1x Boros Signet
1x Chromatic Lantern
1x Coalition Relic
1x Darksteel Ingot
1x Sol Ring
1x Wayfarer's Bauble
1x Alloy Myr
1x Palladium Myr
1x Gold Myr
1x Iron Myr
Deterrents:
1x Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
1x Archon of Justice
1x Commander Eesha
1x Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs
1x Lieutenant Kirtar
1x Martyr's Cause
1x Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker
1x Windborn Muse
1x Aurification
1x Ghostly Prison
1x Sphere of Safety
Sweep:
1x Austere Command
1x Hallowed Burial
1x Wrath of God
1x Oblivion Stone
(Spot) Removal:
1x Oblation
1x Orim's Thunder
1x Path to Exile
1x Return to Dust
1x Swords to Plowshares
1x Oblivion Ring
1x Wing Shards
1x Debt of Loyalty
Attacking stimulation:
1x Avatar of Slaughter
1x Basandra, Battle Seraph
1x War's Toll
Utility creat:
1x Adarkar Valkyrie
1x Anger
1x Godo, Bandit Warlord
1x Mother of Runes
1x Stoneforge Mystic
1x Stonehewer Giant
1x Sun Titan
1x Weathered Wayfarer
Card draw & selection:
1x Enlightened Tutor
1x Mind's Eye
1x Scroll Rack
1x Steelshaper's Gift
1x Land Tax
1x Wheel of Fortune
1x Reforge the Soul
Planeswalkers:
1x Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Misc.:
1x Aggravated Assault
1x Dawn Charm
Deckstats:
Old deck:
Here!
I hope you guys have some pointers for me! I will still have to play a lot with this deck to see if it functions the way I am envisioning
Changes:
24/03/12:
-1 Archangel of Strife average castingcost was too high
-1 Master Warcraft not effective enough
+1 Stoneforge Mystic more tutoring
+1 Steelshaper's Gift more tutoring
28/04/12:
-2 Mountain
-1 Secluded Steppe
-1 Death by Dragons: too cute.
-1 Vow of Lightning
-1 Vow of Duty
-1 Stranglehold
-1 Serra Ascendant: draws too much hate early
+2 Plains
+1 Emeria, the Sky Ruin: just trying this out, might save me sometime
+1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant: nice blockers to hold them off
+1 Dawn Charm: more options is always nice, esp. the fog is good
+1 Mother of Runes
+1 Darksteel Ingot
+1 Wing Shards
17/11/12:
-1 Fumiko, the Lowblood
-1 Norn's Annex
-1 Creepy Doll
-1 Eternal Dragon
-1 Hunted Dragon
-1 Yosei, the Morning Star
-1 Aura of Silence
-1 Grand Melee
-1 Karmic Guide
-1 Word of Seizing
-1 Replenish
-1 Ajani Vengeant
+1 Basandra, Battle Seraph
+1 Chromatic Lantern
+1 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
+1 Sphere of Safety
+1 Worn Powerstone
+1 Sword of Feast and Famine
+1 Sword of War and Peace
+1 Coalition Relic
+1 Wayfarer's Bauble
+1 Savage Beating
+1 Reforge the Soul
+1 Wheel of Fortune
21/11/12:
- 1 Savage Beating
- 1 Eight-and-a-half Tails
- 1 Worn Powerstone
- 1 Crescendo of War
- 1 Insurrection
- 1 Into the Core
- 1 Wild Ricochet
- 1 Plains
- 1 Commander Eesha
+ 1 Aggravated Assault
+ 1 Alloy Myr
+ 1 Angelic Renewal
+ 1 Palladium Myr
+ 1 Gold Myr
+ 1 Iron Myr
+ 1 Martyr's Cause
+ 1 High Market
+ 1 Adarkar Valkyrie
Doubts:
Change Halls to another Plains to better accomodate Emeria?
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RTeneb, the EternalR
UBRNekusar, Mind RazerUBR
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
BGWGhave, Guru of SporesBGW
Aurelia, the Warleader
BDrana, Kalastria BloodchiefB
WBROros, the AvengerWBR
Powerstone minefield is an awesome card when forcing creatures to attack. You can check the list in my signature for more ideas.
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Stoneforge Mystic could help you tutor up any of your utility equipments, like Darksteel Plate.
If you wanted to go with creature enchantment deterrents like Knighthood, you could consider True Conviction. It pretty much says everyone will stop attacking you if they can help it.
EDIT: While I'm thinking about it, Stonehewer Giant is another way to find ALL of the equipment you need. It adds a lot of tutoring ability to your deck, if you wanted to go that way.
Some cards you suggested deserve some consideration.
Ghostly Prison does exactly what I want though, because if they can't pay the man they have to attack my opponents!
And I do think I have to run a few more attack stimulation effects besides Basandra, because you can't rely on her always being in play.
I also think Stonehewer Giant is good for this deck SoulSalvage, that's why I already run it!
Keep the advice coming!
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WBROros, the AvengerWBR
Mayael beats
Darien, King of Kjeldor could be a nice addition, but I think I need more ramp/a lower average manacost and I don't know what I should cut for it. Maybe Death by Dragons, but I really like that card flavor-wise.
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Rakdos, Lord of Riots
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Aurelia, the Warleader
BDrana, Kalastria BloodchiefB
WBROros, the AvengerWBR
(U/B)(U/B)(U/B) JUMP IN THE LINE, ROCK YOUR BODY IN TIME
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W) RISING FROM THE NEON GLOOM, SHINING LIKE A CRAZY MOON
(U/R)(R/G)(G/U) STEALIN' WHEN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUYIN'
Wing Shards sounds like a good spell, but what would you remove for it? I'm thinking either Orim's Thunder or Norn's Annex (due to it's cmc).
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RTeneb, the EternalR
UBRNekusar, Mind RazerUBR
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
BGWGhave, Guru of SporesBGW
Aurelia, the Warleader
BDrana, Kalastria BloodchiefB
WBROros, the AvengerWBR
(U/B)(U/B)(U/B) JUMP IN THE LINE, ROCK YOUR BODY IN TIME
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W) RISING FROM THE NEON GLOOM, SHINING LIKE A CRAZY MOON
(U/R)(R/G)(G/U) STEALIN' WHEN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUYIN'
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RTeneb, the EternalR
UBRNekusar, Mind RazerUBR
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
BGWGhave, Guru of SporesBGW
Aurelia, the Warleader
BDrana, Kalastria BloodchiefB
WBROros, the AvengerWBR
I've been a big fan of the Exalted Angel I run in my build. It helps to make up for some of the attacks against me when I can't defer them to my opponents at the table. Honestly, I'd put it in place if the Serra Ascendant if I had to make a replacement. I hate that card. It makes you the biggest target at the table, continuing on even if it gets removed, if you get it out in the very early game. Of course it's your choice, but I hate that guy.
—Lim-Dul, the Necromancer
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(U/B)(U/B)(U/B) JUMP IN THE LINE, ROCK YOUR BODY IN TIME
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W) RISING FROM THE NEON GLOOM, SHINING LIKE A CRAZY MOON
(U/R)(R/G)(G/U) STEALIN' WHEN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUYIN'
Fair point on the Shards, but Basandra does not stay around for long usually, so I will probably get enough use out of it. You might also be right about Serra Ascendant but I'd rather replace him (her?) with Baneslayer Angel I think. With all the deterrents I might be able to withstand the hate the critter brings, but it might not be worth it.
Thanks for the suggestions!
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RTeneb, the EternalR
UBRNekusar, Mind RazerUBR
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
BGWGhave, Guru of SporesBGW
Aurelia, the Warleader
BDrana, Kalastria BloodchiefB
WBROros, the AvengerWBR
-2 Mountain
-1 Secluded Steppe
-1 Death by Dragons: too cute.
-1 Vow of Lightning
-1 Vow of Duty
-1 Stranglehold
-1 Serra Ascendant: draws too much hate early
+2 Plains
+1 Emeria, the Sky Ruin: just trying this out, might save me sometime
+1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant: nice blockers to hold them off
+1 Dawn Charm: more options is always nice, esp. the fog is good
+1 Mother of Runes
+1 Darksteel Ingot
+1 Wing Shards
Doubts:
Change Halls to another Plains to better accomodate Emeria?
Changes when I get my hands on the new AVR cards:
+1 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
+1 Slayers' Stronghold
I also entered the deck in deckstats, you can find it right here
PS. Changed the first post to include all this.
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RTeneb, the EternalR
UBRNekusar, Mind RazerUBR
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
BGWGhave, Guru of SporesBGW
Aurelia, the Warleader
BDrana, Kalastria BloodchiefB
WBROros, the AvengerWBR
I already had a Sunforger package in there and wanted to add a little more equipments so I added Feast and Famine and War and Peace. I also updated the ramp section.
Do you guys have any suggestions?
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RTeneb, the EternalR
UBRNekusar, Mind RazerUBR
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
BGWGhave, Guru of SporesBGW
Aurelia, the Warleader
BDrana, Kalastria BloodchiefB
WBROros, the AvengerWBR
Also, anything that gives Double Strike/doubles damage. Running both turns her into a one-shot general as well.
Thanks for the suggestions!
There is literally no infect in my meta yet, so I don't know if they are okay with that kind of thing, but I'll check
She is definitely nice with Sunhome..
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RTeneb, the EternalR
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Rakdos, Lord of Riots
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Aurelia, the Warleader
BDrana, Kalastria BloodchiefB
WBROros, the AvengerWBR
Adarkar Valkyrie
Repeatable sac outlet. Maybe Ashnod's Alter
Combo for unlimited attacks.
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ORRR you could use some exalted, and maybe Leonin Battlemage type effects.
Thanks DragonGhola, nice addition to Throst54's suggestion. It's definitily in the cute section. Would work with Puresteel Paladin as well instead of SoFaF? Adds some resilience.
I think I like the Adarkar Valkyrie idea better though, it's a bit easier. Thanks Dh4mpyr!
Have you guys got any ideas on a good white/artifact repeatable sacc outlet that would work?
BRGWTana and TymnaBRGW
RTeneb, the EternalR
UBRNekusar, Mind RazerUBR
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
BGWGhave, Guru of SporesBGW
Aurelia, the Warleader
BDrana, Kalastria BloodchiefB
WBROros, the AvengerWBR
Kaalia's Army of Annhilation RWB
Obzedat, Ghost Council - Life Gain Matters WB
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord - Fatty Reanimator Toolbox BG
Nekusar, the Mindrazer - Draw to Die RBU
Marath, Will of the Wild - Token Pump and Tap GWR
Roon of the Hidden Realm - Blink to Bleed WBG
Earlier I had Reiterate and Wild Ricochet to throw a wrench in there sometime (more reliably with Sunforger). Another option would be the appropriate Angel's Grace.
BRGWTana and TymnaBRGW
RTeneb, the EternalR
UBRNekusar, Mind RazerUBR
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
BGWGhave, Guru of SporesBGW
Aurelia, the Warleader
BDrana, Kalastria BloodchiefB
WBROros, the AvengerWBR