Dharun Ravi: GUILTY! How much jail time should be get?

dcartist · 03-13-2012, 06:31 AM

http://www.app.com/article/20120312/...sey=nav%7Chead

Closing statements coming. Defense rested without having Dharun testify. Honestly he seems like kind of a prick (not necessarily hateful or evil, but you get a pretty good idea of his character from his actions and & smell of his personality from the "Non-apology" he texted to Clementi after Clementi posted he was gonna jump from a bridge-- the text mostly seemed to be making excuses, labeling it a misunderstanding and telling Clementi that Ravi has "no problem with gays". I don't know how anybody could call that a sincere apology)

I really loathe this guy, even outside of the actions he took, he seems to be a complete prick.

That said, I don't think he's got any LEGAL responsibility for the suicide and death. The HATE or BIAS stuff is shakey... 10 years is a lot.

He is guilty of witness tampering, etc. he's GUILTY and I'd give him some definite prison time AND deport him because of the felony convictions.

I was shocked he didn't take the 600 hours community service and NO jail time he was offered by the prosecution originally. He actually rejected it on "principle" because he feels that he did nothing wrong. And THAT is yet another reason why I consider him a real prick.

Thoughts? Predictions?

bakgat · 03-13-2012, 07:05 AM

Give him his jail term and then deport him.

bocephus · 03-13-2012, 08:19 AM

Sentence him with the max they can, tell him if he is ever found in the United States again he will have to serve the sentence, and deport him. Why pay for his jail time if we dont have to.

narah · 03-13-2012, 08:33 PM

My only knowledge of this issue comes from the link in the OP. That being said, I'm not seeing how what he did was criminal.

Why would he be deported? Is his immigration status in question elsewhere?

supermoo9999 · 03-13-2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by narah

Why would he be deported? Is his immigration status in question elsewhere?

I'll echo this. Nothing in the article, nor anything anywhere else online, suggests that he isn't a US citizen; indeed, Wikipedia states that he went to an American high school, and lived in New Jersey.
Ah, thanks dcartist. My bad.

dcartist · 03-13-2012, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by supermoo9999

I'll echo this. Nothing in the article, nor anything anywhere else online, suggests that he isn't a US citizen; indeed, Wikipedia states that he went to an American high school, and lived in New Jersey.

You need to brush up on your Googling skills.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...mobRedir=false

Here you go. Indian born. Non-citizen. Green card. They offered him a Plea deal for 600 hours community service, probation, with NO jail time, AND a promise to help him if immigration services tried to deport him. He said "**** you" because he believes he did nothing wrong, just like his "Non-apology" indicated.

It's also right there in the Tyler Clementi suicide wiki. Under prosecution section.

If you have a green card and you commit a felony, yes, they're gonna be interested in deporting you.

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Update: http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Tyler+Clementi

Verdict reached!

NOT GUILTY: Bias intimidation charges (the most serious offenses)

GUILTY: invasion of privacy (multiple counts), witness tampering, etc.

About what I expected. I have no sympathy for this guy. Definitely deserves at least SOME jailtime. Dude isn't even sorry. His "apology" to his roommate on the day of suicide didn't even say he was sorry. It was just one of those infuriating "just don't want you to leave with any misunderstanding o what a good guy I really am." kind of missives, denying wrongdoing.

Glad he spent a year on the frying pan. He's not ultimately the guy responsible for Clementi's death, but such a loathsome human being who contributed deliberate to his rommate's already Tortured experience.

I hope he's deported for the witness tampering business.

Edit: sorry, don't know why article from earlier got it wrong:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/17/ny...s-case.html?hp

Guilty of all charges! Shocking to me. I think he's a weasel but I never thought the most serious charges would stick. Holy smokes. I don't think he should get an outrageous amount of prison time but definitely deport. His lawyers will appeal.

03-13-2012, 06:31 AM	#1
dcartist Immortal One Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,217	Dharun Ravi: GUILTY! How much jail time should be get? http://www.app.com/article/20120312/...sey=nav%7Chead Closing statements coming. Defense rested without having Dharun testify. Honestly he seems like kind of a prick (not necessarily hateful or evil, but you get a pretty good idea of his character from his actions and & smell of his personality from the "Non-apology" he texted to Clementi after Clementi posted he was gonna jump from a bridge-- the text mostly seemed to be making excuses, labeling it a misunderstanding and telling Clementi that Ravi has "no problem with gays". I don't know how anybody could call that a sincere apology) I really loathe this guy, even outside of the actions he took, he seems to be a complete prick. That said, I don't think he's got any LEGAL responsibility for the suicide and death. The HATE or BIAS stuff is shakey... 10 years is a lot. He is guilty of witness tampering, etc. he's GUILTY and I'd give him some definite prison time AND deport him because of the felony convictions. I was shocked he didn't take the 600 hours community service and NO jail time he was offered by the prosecution originally. He actually rejected it on "principle" because he feels that he did nothing wrong. And THAT is yet another reason why I consider him a real prick. Thoughts? Predictions? __________________ Last edited by dcartist; 03-20-2012 at 06:23 AM.
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03-13-2012, 07:05 AM	#2
bakgat Archmage Overlord Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Pretoria, ZA Posts: 1,138	Give him his jail term and then deport him. __________________ EDH DECKS: Spoiler:
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03-13-2012, 08:19 AM	#3
bocephus Immortal One Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 7,991	Sentence him with the max they can, tell him if he is ever found in the United States again he will have to serve the sentence, and deport him. Why pay for his jail time if we dont have to.
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03-13-2012, 08:33 PM	#4
narah Archmage Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 797	My only knowledge of this issue comes from the link in the OP. That being said, I'm not seeing how what he did was criminal. Why would he be deported? Is his immigration status in question elsewhere?
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