MTG Salvation Forums  
Home Articles Magic 2014 Spoiler (74/249) Radar Forums Blogs Wiki Chat About Register Now!

Go Back   MTG Salvation Forums > The Game > Vintage (Type 1) > Vintage Deck Discussion > Blue-Based Control Decks

View Poll Results: What Oath build is better?
Golden Gun Oath 18 54.55%
Demon Oath 15 45.45%
Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-09-2012, 07:31 PM   #1
kingsey
Ascended Mage
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Gibbstown, NJ
Posts: 304

United States

Default Demon oath vs GG oath

Hey guys, what version do you guys this is more consistant? I like the fact GG can run tinker where as demon you loose out on that gameplan.

GG oath is normally Emrakul and blightsteel with dragon's breath

There are less dead cards in demon oath, but im curious if anyone else is playing oath these days.
kingsey is offline         0

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2012, 02:46 AM   #2
D3@D
Archmage Overlord
 
D3@D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,868
Default

IMO, GG oath is probably the most competitive of the two. But I like playing Demon more for some reason.
D3@D is offline         0

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2012, 02:57 PM   #3
necrogenesis
Burnt children dread the fire.
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 4,589
Blog Entries: 17

United States

Default

Demon Oath gives you more options, more choices to make, more chances to interact, and more chances to be disrupted. GG has the stronger win condition and gives a smaller window for your opponents to step through and stop you.

I can agree that Demon is probably the more fun to play while GG is probably the more powerful. Though, honestly I have played neither, I am currently putting together Demon Oath.
__________________
Please vote for my card "Mass Mummification" in You Make the Card 4:

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazin...y/feature/247b

Favorite criticism so far:
"Whoever thought Mass Mummification is a good idea deserves to be shot in the foot."
(source)
necrogenesis is offline         0

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2012, 03:56 PM   #4
Heartworks
Experienced Mage
 
Heartworks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 142
Default

I've run both and always felt GG Oath is just more powerful and wins more (elephant is my favorite though, but GG has won me far more games far more consistantly).
Heartworks is offline         0

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2012, 07:23 AM   #5
BaronSengir
Experienced Mage
 
BaronSengir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 122

United States

Send a message via AIM to BaronSengir
Default

I've played both and I absolutely love Demon Oath more, but GG Oath just wins faster and more often for me.
__________________
"Bottled life. Not as tasty as I'm used to, rather stale, but it has the same effect." Baron Sengir
My Deck Index

Main Decks:
Spoiler:
Casual
Vampire
Zombie
Last Stand
Legacy
Reanimator
Merfolk
Dragon Stompy
Vintage
Demon Oath
MUD
Landstill


BaronSengir is offline         0

 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2012, 01:56 PM   #6
t3hplatyz0rz
Just Getting Started
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 18
Default

I don't get Demon Oath.
You could take several extra turns by using up 5-6 spots in your deck (I forget how many dedicated or semi-dedicated cards demon oath has exactly, but it's at least 3 demons and some regrowth spells).
Or you could have 2 Emrakuls as the only creatures in your deck and take infinite turns that way.
t3hplatyz0rz is offline         0

 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2012, 04:16 PM   #7
Gaka
Krark's Middle Finger
Moderator
Commander Poster of the Year 2011
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 5,918
Blog Entries: 1

United States

Send a message via Skype™ to Gaka
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by t3hplatyz0rz View Post
I don't get Demon Oath.
You could take several extra turns by using up 5-6 spots in your deck (I forget how many dedicated or semi-dedicated cards demon oath has exactly, but it's at least 3 demons and some regrowth spells).
Or you could have 2 Emrakuls as the only creatures in your deck and take infinite turns that way.
Oathing in Emrakul doesn't grant you the extra turn.
__________________
Quote:
Tantarus: It didn't make the gaka greifer level, so it should be fine
EDH:
rNorin the Waryr <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
guEdric, Spymaster of Trestug <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)

Duel Commander:
wuGeist of Saint Traftuw <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
bgrAdun Oakenshieldrgb <- Link! (Ooze Combo)
bugDamia, Sage of Stonegub <- Link! (Extinction Control)


This is a link to a Helpdesk This is not
Gaka is offline         0

 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 07:36 AM   #8
t3hplatyz0rz
Just Getting Started
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 18
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaka View Post
Oathing in Emrakul doesn't grant you the extra turn.
Well, ****.
Apparently I've been testing wrong. Glad I didn't buy anything yet :P.
t3hplatyz0rz is offline         0

 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 08:01 AM   #9
BaronSengir
Experienced Mage
 
BaronSengir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 122

United States

Send a message via AIM to BaronSengir
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by t3hplatyz0rz View Post
Well, ****.
Apparently I've been testing wrong. Glad I didn't buy anything yet :P.
What you can do though is in a Show and Oath deck include a Channel. If you luck into drawing the Channel with Emrakul first turn that's pretty much game if they resolve, because the Channel allows you to cast Emrakul, which means you get the extra turn. When I run GG Oath I tend to also include a Tinker for the Bot; just extra ways to win besides Oathing up Emrakul or the Bot.
__________________
"Bottled life. Not as tasty as I'm used to, rather stale, but it has the same effect." Baron Sengir
My Deck Index

Main Decks:
Spoiler:
Casual
Vampire
Zombie
Last Stand
Legacy
Reanimator
Merfolk
Dragon Stompy
Vintage
Demon Oath
MUD
Landstill


BaronSengir is offline         0

 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2012, 05:29 AM   #10
Charlie
Ascended Mage
 
Charlie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 389
Default

the problem with GG oath is that you don't get haste often enough; if you run 1 emkarul, 1 colossus and 2 dragon breath, you only get dragon breath 50% of the time, and the other 50% of the time you can only pray you don't get jaced.
Charlie is offline         0

 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2012, 07:14 PM   #11
Raggedjoe
Archmage Overlord
 
Raggedjoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,835
Blog Entries: 2
Default

I actually have found that running 3 Breaths remedies that (1 Emmy, 1 Robot), and 3/5 is betting odds. I've been sorely tempted by 4, but I thunk that's too many sadly (2/3 also happens to be the % of games I need to win...)
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by glurman View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotus Cobra View Post
Could someone help me create a sideboard for the current meta?
-1 Merfolk deck
+1 Almost literally anything else

Sorry if that isn't quite what you're looking for, but it's way more helpful strategically.

Level 1 Judge

Currently Playing:
w Death and Taxes
bgr ScapeWish Nic Fit
bgr Punishing Nic Fit
Raggedjoe is offline         0

 
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:11 AM.


vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.