MWS logs. - Page 213

Jax · 03-05-2012, 06:28 PM

Nothing major, but I did just have a discussion via new game titles with another fellow about whether or not EDH could be played 'competitively' (in reference to a game a third party had created). Essentially, his view point was that because it was an unsanctioned format it could only be played casually, and anyone who didn't share that viewpoint was a douche. Just... /facepalm

Also just had a bit of a gem from "TrolledTroll". Unfortunately, being the idjit I am I didn't save the log. It effectively went like this - game 1 I lose to a crushingly fast assault from T1 Dark Rit into Buried Alive 3x Bloodghast, and then a few other hasty/back from the graveyard style creatures like Gravecrawler and Nether Traitor to follow up. I'm not expecting much out of G2 as I'm playing a slower 'mono black ramp deck', but I decide to not concede and see if I can pull some sort of miracle out of my butt. Opening hand is something like Urborg, Cabal Coffers x 2, Swamp, Ex Map x 2 and Hymn To Tourach. So the mana is there if I can survive long enough, and draw into either Emmy or Consume Spirit. He's whittling down my health, and on my third last turn I'm in a tight spot. I do the calcs and realise I'll be on 1 life still if I don't cast the Consume Spirit I've drawn yet and instead wait for an extra swamp to put more power into my *four* Coffers, so I pass and hope he doesn't draw anything that'll do an extra damage - he doesn't. Next turn I consume Spirit for 16, which surprisingly only looks like it'll give me 2 extra turns of life. Fortunately, the next turn I top deck... Consume Spirit, and cast for lethal.

After that I'm about to concede g3 as I know his deck should crush me and has the advantage over mine due to sheer speed, but before I can he goes "gg", and then complains about it being ridiculous that he was constantly attacking and all I was doing was playing lands (and Ex Maps to find lands, and Hymn To Tourachs) and yet I won. He then DC'd before I could rofl at him for having the obviously superior deck but getting irate about losing a single game to a really good draw.

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Originally Posted by Trancebam

If I'm reading this right, in the last game, you swung with Diregraf Ghoul and he blocked with Daybreak Ranger, then sacrificed Full Moon's Rise. You cast Brimstone Volley on Daybreak Ranger in response. In that situation, neither the Ghoul nor the Ranger would die, as he had sacrificed Full Moon's Rise to regenerate his Daybreak Ranger. I'm just saying.

The regeneration shield doesn't get applied until after the Full Moon's activated ability resolves. If you kill the werewolf in response to the activation, it'll be in the graveyard before it could be given a regeneration shield.

PaulWog · 03-06-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Trancebam

If I'm reading this right, in the last game, you swung with Diregraf Ghoul and he blocked with Daybreak Ranger, then sacrificed Full Moon's Rise. You cast Brimstone Volley on Daybreak Ranger in response. In that situation, neither the Ghoul nor the Ranger would die, as he had sacrificed Full Moon's Rise to regenerate his Daybreak Ranger. I'm just saying.

Lol. There's such a thing as a stack.

Just had a game where an idiot thought flip cards retain their mana costs. I told him "look, you're counting your wins & losses... you're saying you're 10 and 0... you just got mad about losing in game 1, and now you're arguing the rules with me in game 2... I'll give you time to look it up". He calls me a noob, tells me I lose, leaves, and starts up a new game saying he's 11-0 and undefeated.

There are people with real egotistical issues that seem to cling to a false feeling of superiority. It's annoying to watch them squabble about, tossing around name-calling in order to shield themselves from reality.

Infecter4life · 03-06-2012, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hyugafan

this broski IS MAAAAD. and the best thing is, his ''game name'' is "lol I love hat3rs, they make me laugh

I'm playing mono-black zombies and he's just dropped a mirran crusader. doesn't matter. I've got two fume spitters and two geralf's. the exchange at the begining is him taking my messenger and sacking it. when I point out fume spitter, he gets mad. I then proceed to deal like 12 damage with just my geralf. I attack for lethal (he's at 4, I have 5 attackers including a geralf without a counter, he has 4 blocks. he blocks the geralf and lets a 2/2 through. gg. and then THIS GOLDEN GEM HAPPENS. admire my master trolling, internet. 'tis a refined art, I say.

Spoiler:

Oh, this is Eric W. I love him dearly. He sits in MWS days on end with either "Haters keep walking" or whatever, I usually spend my time waiting for friends coming on just messing with him, while changing my name so he thinks I am a different person.

A++, would troll again.

Trancebam · 03-13-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jax

The regeneration shield doesn't get applied until after the Full Moon's activated ability resolves. If you kill the werewolf in response to the activation, it'll be in the graveyard before it could be given a regeneration shield.

Ah, my mistake. For some reason I was thinking the regeneration ability had already resolved.

ThaRealestTobyKeith · 03-18-2012, 04:37 PM

I'm playing my friend Alex's Lands list that he top 64ed GP Indy with and join a game entitled LEGACY COMPETITIVE (or something along those lines; it was definitely all caps), with a tag note of "no quitting". I keep a decent hand, play a Tranquil Thicket, and pass. Opp. plays an untapped Hallowed Fountain. I cast a Life from the Loam on my turn with no cards in my graveyard. I click 'Ok?'. Opp. tanks for a while, Spell Snares, and then quits very shortly after:

Spoiler:

Mao · 03-20-2012, 09:13 PM

Spoiler:

Anyone of you guys encountered this kind of player. Super strict or just another troll?

Jax · 03-21-2012, 06:44 AM

Ugh, I hate players like that. Happens all the time when I put out lands that would enter untapped in a tapped position, signifying I'm going to use the mana immediately, and then they complain that the land doesn't come out tapped.

As for my own updates... just had a game that wasn't really worth saving, but reinforced in me the idea that you should have some decent rules knowledge before hopping onto MWS. I'm playing blue CA/control, he's playing GR werewolves (both casual). His list of infractions:

0. He accidentally draws 8 cards. I'd be more accepting of this if he just threw one on top of the library, preferably randomly - but no. Not only does he put it on top of the library, he then proceeds to shuffle it. Instead of drawing 7, draw 8 and ditch the worst card? Don't mind if I do!
1. On turn 4, he plays an Immerwolf with one already out. I Cryptic Command, choosing bounce and counter. He takes them both to his hand. When I say "only one to hand, the other to gy", it takes him a solid minute to actually ditch one.
2. He taps three forests, and then plays... Young Wolf. I pretty much autofired Counterspell as I was expecting the Predator Ooze I had previously bounced to his hand, but quickly said "sorry, no counter, was expecting ooze". He then proceeded to give Young Wolf a +1/+1 counter, seemingly because he thought it had undied from the counterspell or some silly reason like that.

3. After that, he proceeds to take a second turn in a row. It takes a solid minute of "wait! wait! wait! why are you taking an extra turn?" before he undoes he stuff. Fortunately, I swung for lethal next turn, but unfortunately he bailed before I could tell him he needs to sure up his rules knowledge.

Futher updates:
*Many 'casual/fun' players (pretty much all I'm playing atm) listing their games as such but including either some of the better vintage cards like Survival, Demonic Tutor and Balance, but even the power 9 in some cases. This used to happen on rare occasions to me, but this month I've been getting quite a few.
*There's someone who's piloting a 100 card Myr tribal deck, who consistently fails to understand how Myr Retriever works (he always digs for the card when it ETBs, not when it dies), and always quits when I stop him and tell him he's misunderstanding the card (by always, I mean both times out of the two games I've had with him).

Vermy · 04-06-2012, 04:08 PM

This is the main thing I hate about Modern, having to play against people who can't wrap their heads around Dark Confidant.

He missed the trigger once, and two other times he drew first then did Bobs trigger.

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aetherdynamo moves the top card of his library to hand.
aetherdynamo plays Treetop Village from the top of his library.
aetherdynamo moves Treetop Village from the stack to hand.
Vermy: wow
aetherdynamo: ?
Vermy: if this was a sanctioned event you probably would have lost the game 4 times now
just from doing your bob triggers wrong
aetherdynamo: first of all it isnt
which is why you should not be all buthurt about it
aetherdynamo taps Forest.
aetherdynamo taps Swamp.
aetherdynamo puts Blackcleave Cliffs into play from hand.
aetherdynamo taps Blackcleave Cliffs.
aetherdynamo taps Blackcleave Cliffs.
aetherdynamo puts Grim Lavamancer into play from hand.
Vermy: because wanting to play the game right makes me butthurt
It is now the beginning of combat step.
It is now the declare attackers step.
aetherdynamo taps Treetop Village.
aetherdynamo taps Dark Confidant.
aetherdynamo taps Tarmogoyf.
Vermy: g2?
aetherdynamo: nah
your a little uptight
and play a bad deck
aetherdynamo has left the game.

classy

Rising Star · 04-21-2012, 04:46 AM

It is now turn 12 (Steel)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Steel taps Drowned Catacomb
Steel taps Drowned Catacomb
Steel untaps Drowned Catacomb
Steel plays Phantasmal Image from Hand
<Steel> End my turn
<ScootaLewis> ok
<ScootaLewis> lol
Phantasmal Image is now 1/0
<Steel> resp
Steel taps Swamp
Steel taps Drowned Catacomb
Steel plays Altar's Reap from Hand
Steel draws a card
Steel draws a card
<ScootaLewis> yeah
<ScootaLewis> no
Steel puts Phantasmal Image to Graveyard from Play
Steel puts Altar's Reap to Graveyard from Play
<ScootaLewis> that doesn't work
<System> Player Lost

To clarify: He cast Phantasmal Image copying Gravecrawler with a heartless summoning out. Was I correct in saying that no, altar's reap doesn't work in this situation?

Vermy · 04-21-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rising Star

To clarify: He cast Phantasmal Image copying Gravecrawler with a heartless summoning out. Was I correct in saying that no, altar's reap doesn't work in this situation?

Indeed. After it resolves and before any player gains priority again, state based actions would be checked and see a 1/0 that would be put into the graveyard.

The Milkman · 04-28-2012, 06:28 AM

I finally have one, and on Cockatrice no less.

Two individual parts of the same match, I'm playing my Ooze Stompy and on a pretty good jive, until the second thing happens.

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Rising Star · 04-29-2012, 02:17 PM

Haha, this one made me laugh for real.

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<Twilight Sparkle> End my turn
It is now turn 18 (Infernal Majesty)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Infernal Majesty untaps his/her permanents
Infernal Majesty draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
Infernal Majesty taps Solemn Simulacrum
Infernal Majesty taps Solemn Simulacrum
Twilight Sparkle's life total is now 11 (-4)
Infernal Majesty puts Solemn Simulacrum to Graveyard from Play
Infernal Majesty draws a card
It is now the Postcombat Main Phase
Infernal Majesty plays Myr Superion from Hand
Myr Superion is now 4/5
Infernal Majesty draws a card
Infernal Majesty is now the controller of Swamp
Infernal Majesty is now the controller of Swamp
Infernal Majesty is now the controller of Swamp
Infernal Majesty is now the controller of Swamp
Infernal Majesty is now the controller of Swamp
Infernal Majesty is now the controller of Demonlord of Ashmouth
Infernal Majesty is now the controller of Soulcage Fiend
<Opponent is requesting a new game>
Infernal Majesty shuffles library
<Infernal Majesty> Burn your soul!
Infernal Majesty draws 0 cards
<> ?
<Infernal Majesty> FACK U MOTHER ASSS
<System> Player Lost

This was after a close game against what appeared to be a GWB Heartless Summoning deck with not one, but TWO Wolfir Silverhearts.

I guess when I attacked with my Bloodgift Demon to put him to 10, then dropped a Demonlord of Ashmouth sacking Bloodgift, then Slipped his Silverheart, it probably unhinged something in his brain. It looks like he couldn't draw an answer.

MakoEyesX · 04-30-2012, 01:14 PM

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DCDT Dito: can you quote me the rule that prevent looking at a list?

well, here you go:

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Players are allowed to take written notes during a match and may refer to those notes while that match is in progress. At the beginning of a match, each player’s note sheet must be empty and must remain visible throughout the match. Players do not have to explain or reveal notes to other players. Judges may ask to see a player’s notes and/or request that the player explain his or her notes.

Players may not refer to other notes, including notes from previous matches, during games.

Between games, players may refer to a brief set of notes made before the match. They are not required to reveal these notes to their opponents. These notes must be removed from the play area before the beginning of the next game. Excessive quantities of notes (more than a sheet or two) are not allowed and may be penalized as slow play.

Uranium · 04-30-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chaosof99

Testing out new Innistrad cards:

When's the cleanup step:

Am I missing something here? It certainly looks like he should have to discard down to 7 if he USZ'ed during his own end step. I'm using this turn structure reference.

MakoEyesX · 04-30-2012, 04:59 PM

You were right. Your opponent has no idea what they're doing.

03-18-2012, 04:37 PM	#3185
ThaRealestTobyKeith Ascended Mage Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 417	I'm playing my friend Alex's Lands list that he top 64ed GP Indy with and join a game entitled LEGACY COMPETITIVE (or something along those lines; it was definitely all caps), with a tag note of "no quitting". I keep a decent hand, play a Tranquil Thicket, and pass. Opp. plays an untapped Hallowed Fountain. I cast a Life from the Loam on my turn with no cards in my graveyard. I click 'Ok?'. Opp. tanks for a while, Spell Snares, and then quits very shortly after: Spoiler: Last edited by ThaRealestTobyKeith; 03-18-2012 at 06:44 PM.
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03-20-2012, 09:13 PM	#3186
Mao Experienced Mage Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Iloilo City, Philippines Posts: 94	Spoiler: Anyone of you guys encountered this kind of player. Super strict or just another troll? __________________ www.magiciloilo.com
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03-21-2012, 06:44 AM	#3187
Jax Experienced Mage Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 100	Ugh, I hate players like that. Happens all the time when I put out lands that would enter untapped in a tapped position, signifying I'm going to use the mana immediately, and then they complain that the land doesn't come out tapped. As for my own updates... just had a game that wasn't really worth saving, but reinforced in me the idea that you should have some decent rules knowledge before hopping onto MWS. I'm playing blue CA/control, he's playing GR werewolves (both casual). His list of infractions: 0. He accidentally draws 8 cards. I'd be more accepting of this if he just threw one on top of the library, preferably randomly - but no. Not only does he put it on top of the library, he then proceeds to shuffle it. Instead of drawing 7, draw 8 and ditch the worst card? Don't mind if I do! 1. On turn 4, he plays an Immerwolf with one already out. I Cryptic Command, choosing bounce and counter. He takes them both to his hand. When I say "only one to hand, the other to gy", it takes him a solid minute to actually ditch one. 2. He taps three forests, and then plays... Young Wolf. I pretty much autofired Counterspell as I was expecting the Predator Ooze I had previously bounced to his hand, but quickly said "sorry, no counter, was expecting ooze". He then proceeded to give Young Wolf a +1/+1 counter, seemingly because he thought it had undied from the counterspell or some silly reason like that. 3. After that, he proceeds to take a second turn in a row. It takes a solid minute of "wait! wait! wait! why are you taking an extra turn?" before he undoes he stuff. Fortunately, I swung for lethal next turn, but unfortunately he bailed before I could tell him he needs to sure up his rules knowledge. Futher updates: Many 'casual/fun' players (pretty much all I'm playing atm) listing their games as such but including either some of the better vintage cards like Survival, Demonic Tutor and Balance, but even the power 9 in some cases. This used to happen on rare occasions to me, but this month I've been getting quite a few. There's someone who's piloting a 100 card Myr tribal deck, who consistently fails to understand how Myr Retriever works (he always digs for the card when it ETBs, not when it dies), and always quits when I stop him and tell him he's misunderstanding the card (by always, I mean both times out of the two games I've had with him). Last edited by Jax; 04-02-2012 at 03:23 AM.
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04-28-2012, 06:28 AM	#3191
The Milkman Ascended Mage Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 208	I finally have one, and on Cockatrice no less. Two individual parts of the same match, I'm playing my Ooze Stompy and on a pretty good jive, until the second thing happens. Spoiler: Last edited by The Milkman; 04-28-2012 at 06:31 AM.
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04-21-2012, 04:46 AM	#3189
Rising Star Wizard Mentor Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 622	It is now turn 12 (Steel) It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step Steel taps Drowned Catacomb Steel taps Drowned Catacomb Steel untaps Drowned Catacomb Steel plays Phantasmal Image from Hand <Steel> End my turn <ScootaLewis> ok <ScootaLewis> lol Phantasmal Image is now 1/0 <Steel> resp Steel taps Swamp Steel taps Drowned Catacomb Steel plays Altar's Reap from Hand Steel draws a card Steel draws a card <ScootaLewis> yeah <ScootaLewis> no Steel puts Phantasmal Image to Graveyard from Play Steel puts Altar's Reap to Graveyard from Play <ScootaLewis> that doesn't work <System> Player Lost To clarify: He cast Phantasmal Image copying Gravecrawler with a heartless summoning out. Was I correct in saying that no, altar's reap doesn't work in this situation?
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04-30-2012, 04:59 PM	#3195
MakoEyesX Archmage Overlord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Iowa City, IA Posts: 1,382	You were right. Your opponent has no idea what they're doing.
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