I rarely pay attention to any games D1 nowadays, it's boring, it's slow and I don't have much evidence to "solve" the mafia puzzle (I'm almost always wrong D1 anyway) This day is too big already and we are going in circles, we need to see a flip to continue investigation.
So your not paying attention but you have enough knowledge of the game to want 4+ people dead? That's believable. Actually, this is just deflection away from your terrible pushes on these people, your trying to wave off your scummy behavior by self-meta'ing yourself into "i'm a bad player day 1" but your actions show you very involved and knowing of the gamestate. Try again.
If i were you, i'd be voting you for using self-meta, after all, that's the reason you voted zionite over KCC isn't it?
Here's the player base, I bolded the players I've pushed a lynch for your convenience.
1. Arcadic
2. Archonoid
3. Archmage Eternal
4. Cyan -- Called scummy, not highlighted.
5. Cyouni
6. Emo Pinata - Can't find any comment on EP made by Drey.
7. EronTheRelentless - Case : He claimed scum. So informative!
8. ganderin_dan
9. Guardman - Never comments on Gman other that "he's not getting lynched til a b c d and e are lynched". Gman was a MAJOR wagon that drey has just ignored.
10. infectiousbaloth
11. Iso
12. KittyCupcake
13. Macius - Promised meta, never delivered.
14. Niv -- Never made a case, just "add him to vig list"
15. DRey (r. pinkys brain)
16. tordeck
17. The Cold Monarch
18. Wrath_of_DoG
19. Wuffles_II
20. zindabad
21. Zionite -- Called scummy, wanted to chain lynch with KCC, Called him part of the scumteam with KCC and TCM. Calls him scum here
Fix'd Fix'd and oh so Fix'd.
Here's a classic Drey flip-flop. 1st Post shows him willing to trust KCC's claim
Zinda's post mirror my own feelings, I'm mostly suspitious of those fearmongering "Xyre is dangerous omigosh", but I find unlikely TFF to be so stupid to fake a daykill only to be proven wrong sometime later, I do think he was roleblocked. That being said the usual "daykillers can only be town" is not to be trusted this game, I expect anything.
2nd post, 2 hours later, shows Drey's utter doubt in TFF's claim. What?
Lol, so we should let TFF live until he can use his shot? What if he claims to be roleblocked everyDay? The bolded is a very common tactic for scum to preemptively justify a vote on a townie. ^^
You can't defend KCC's claim and then use someone trusting KCC's claim as evidence someone is scummy. Unless your scum.
unFOS, FOS Drey.
Would also keep my FOS on Guardman as well.
You may be wrong there. By the way, your saying your town?
I hope I'm not -a neutral lynch is as good as a mislynch. The only way I could see going after a known neutral is if they try to shutdown, get close, but fall short on votes.
And yes, I claimed a while ago.
The other gives me a second vote for as long as the Presidente is dead, marked by a "Xyre" vote.
But, you had nothing to do with the vote on iso? -And would this vote be posted by Xyre in thread, the way the vote on Iso was, or would it just show up in the vote count, like Zion's claimed vote ability?
Probably not. But we aren't going to lynch the ones we believe to be neutrals, so it benefits you to help root out the ones who are scum, so we can lynch them.
convoluted story about being roleblocked or not, or targeted the mod or not, or having a daykill or not
This is garbage. I misread one PM slightly and got the duration of my ability-loss wrong. But I've been crystal clear, repeatedly, about everything else.
My Day 1 theory is that the scum team consists of ganderin_dan, Niv, Wrath_of_DoG, and infectiousbaloth, which would put the SK in the Neutral list somewhere.
At least one of Guardman/TCM/Eron/Zion is definitely lying. Why don't we focus on figuring that out?
TheFooFish KittyCupCake is claimed town with a daykill that she attempted to use on Xyre, which resulted in her vanillafication.
-BTW, I still never targeted Xyre. I considered using it on him, but never attempted it, because I lost use of my abilities first.
The rest of this post looks good, though I disagree with clearing TCM for claiming first. (Think about if two players claim doc; do you trust the one who claimed first? -No, you usually trust the player who counter-claimed. And in this case, that's Eron.)
I rarely pay attention to any games D1 nowadays, it's boring, it's slow and I don't have much evidence to "solve" the mafia puzzle (I'm almost always wrong D1 anyway) This day is too big already and we are going in circles, we need to see a flip to continue investigation.
Obviously.
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A resume of this day from yours truly:
People suspect tordeck, tordeck is pushed to claim range. He claims, reduces posting to avoid suspition and people forget Tordeck.
People suspect Macius, macious is pushed to claim range. He claims, reduces posting to avoid suspition and people forget Macius.
Rinse and repeat with Zion, TFF, Gman and now Eron to this list with minimal changes and that's where we stand.
So you provide no context on why this is important, matters, doesn't matter, etc. Way to look like you are doing something when in fact you aren't.
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You said the very same thing on Mean girls mafia. "I know I mentioned a dayroleblocker, but it was not what I meant, I have no knowledge of the existence of dayroleblockers".*1 You fooled me back there but I will not be fooled twice,*2 I think you haven't paid much attention to the OP, you thought survivor would a be a good falseclaim, but it's not.*3 In fact I would be deeply disappointed if Xyre really added a boring role like survivor in a game like this, where all the neutrals are survivors.*4
I explained Niv already, and I had my reasons, I just wanted people to prod me for them. Do you think I would attack Niv if I didn't have any reasons Eron?*5 I also didn't forgot our votes have no effect, that doesn't mean I cannot do it anyway to prove a point. I didn't know I would take a beating though...
1. That is a complete misrep of what occured. Try again.
2. So you're angry that I fooled you? Why let that play into your choices here?
3. Why not?
4. Well prepared to be disappointed.
5. Absolutely (and you still haven't provided said reasons)
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Nice chainsaw IB, now some questions:
-why are you so dense? it's OBVIOUS all neutrals are kind of neutrals at this point, my point was not that neutrals really had two wincons, it's that all of them are survivors at heart because of the rules.
-why do you have a town read on Eron?
-why do you have a scum read on me? (in your words, "arcadic said it" doesn't work) -How sure you are of my scumread and Eron townread? Could you bet your life that I flip scum and/or Eron will flip town?
As you yourself established above you are clearly not reading. WHY WOULD ANYONE BET THEIR LIFE THAT I WOULD FLIP TOWN WHEN I CLAIMED A NEUTRAL SURVIVOR - PLEASE PAY ATTENTION.
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I don't think you remember the end of this "pffff" thing do you? It's kinda funny remembering that now because Yanni only explain things he cannot explain with pfff when he's scum. Me and another player (don't remember who) even promised in mafia council that whenever Yanni pulled that again we would push for his lynch with all our strenght.
Cool story.
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Here's the player base, I bolded the players I've pushed a lynch for your convenience.
You forgot a few, so I took a minute to highlight them in blue... Might help if you weren't slinging paint on everyone you can.
I'll provide your own quotes to help refresh you on who you dislike:
You've attacked me before (with zero reasoning), now your reason has turned into "DRey is bloodthristy" after I attacked Eron when "being bloodthristy" is a total null tell.
BTW I'm always bloodthristy, particularly for lurkers... take care.
How is bloodthirsty Null? You have expressed dislike for almost half the players in this game.
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Bzzzz you failed. I've already explained my reads. How about you explaining your scumreads now?
Where have you done this? You haven't explained anything, really.
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"Because Arcaid said so, plus Iso said so too, if they are wrong it's totally not my fault".
How I don't grasp the finer points of the game? Aren't you a neutral? You know you need to survive to win right? Do you really expect a true survivor in a game full of "neutrals survivors plus"?
Why not? Explain to everyone why this is impossible.
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His complete lack of enthusiasm is exactly what I would expect from scumTIK, I've seen it before. Go read Phyrexian X coalizion (tordeck was scum with him btw) if you want proof. PLus he's not just a neutral, he's "a neutral, or no, I'm town, nah I was joking, I'm really a neutral after all"
That's all you got? Have you reread the game?
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Why are you so adamant in saying a janitor is a exclusive town role? Have you really never saw a scum janitor?
@Iso what theory? Aren't Eron, Gman, Zion in a dichotomy? Don't you want to solve this dichotomy asap?
BTW this game is getting hotter, I like. Keep posting people.
Niv: I believe your answer comes later in the game than you've read up to.
IB: Trust me. Also, I do need to check something you posted, I'll look into that after this.
Zindabad: Given that we currently have ~11 claimed Neutrals, if you DON'T help the Neutrals, we have no reason to help you - and currently, there can be no scum lynch without Neutrals and/or scum on the wagon. So, if you want us to cooperate, shapen up.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
You'd also have to get other Neutrals to cooperate with the Neutral lynches. Are you not reading?
I think we could manage that. I'm not going to be held hostage by a group of players who aren't playing the same game I am.
I also remember Sword of Truth, where we decided in our infinite wisdom to leave the neutrals alone and let them play to their own claimed wincon. That worked out real well. Not happening again.
I think we could manage that. I'm not going to be held hostage by a group of players who aren't playing the same game I am.
I also remember Sword of Truth, where we decided in our infinite wisdom to leave the neutrals alone and let them play to their own claimed wincon. That worked out real well. Not happening again.
Yeah, except we don't end the game when we win it.
Playing the "lynch the Neutrals" game just to lynch Neutrals is a dick move and you're going to get a lot of hate for it. You're also aiding the mafia win condition by going after Neutrals.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I think we could manage that. I'm not going to be held hostage by a group of players who aren't playing the same game I am.
I also remember Sword of Truth, where we decided in our infinite wisdom to leave the neutrals alone and let them play to their own claimed wincon. That worked out real well. Not happening again.
[ooc]This setup is clearly different than SoT was, or than any other game has been. It is plainly obvious that there are tons of neutrals. Are some of the claimed neutrals scum? Probably. But I doubt that every scum is just going to claim neutral. You are going to have to go outside of your comfort zone and think outside of the box for this game. Playing against the neutrals is a strategy that will only assist the scum.[/ooc]
Cyan looks at El Presidente: "Decent choice, sir. Guardman would have been preferable, but likely they are both scum. We'll work it out tomorrow."
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Playing the "lynch the Neutrals" game just to lynch Neutrals is a dick move and you're going to get a lot of hate for it. You're also aiding the mafia win condition by going after Neutrals.
You seem to think I'm doing this just because I don't like neutrals, or possibly the players that are neutrals in this game. That isn't the case. In Meadows, I fought on Charm_Master's behalf to try to get him to win the game as a neutral; in the end, the town opted not to allow him to win.
However, I have also lost games to neutrals who should never, ever have remained alive (chimes, kpaca in CCMIV, AE in Manga Mafia, etc) and I can't let that happen again. I see minimal benefit to keeping you guys happy or helping to fulfill your wincons. I'm not going to pretend otherwise. You are obstacles that we are going to have to overcome in order to be successful in this game, not allies.
I imagine that the scum also see the sense in what I'm saying and will realize it's in their best interest to work to eliminate the neutrals before shutdown can be achieved -- and that is what you are all working toward. Please don't insult me by arguing otherwise. Any of you would push the button, given the chance to win on the spot.
I imagine that the scum also see the sense in what I'm saying and will realize it's in their best interest to work to eliminate the neutrals before shutdown can be achieved -- and that is what you are all working toward. Please don't insult me by arguing otherwise. Any of you would push the button, given the chance to win on the spot.
I can assure you that there is no need for me to Shutdown to win.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Remember how I said we definitely shouldn't power up E_P? Can anyone explain to me where the benefit to the town is in giving a neutral the ability to control the D1 lynch? How are we coming out ahead because we gave E_P what he wanted?
Zionite takes a long drag on the Chinese filter-tip cigarette, blowing a haze into the stale polluted Ozone Park air.
"I always dreamt of being the hero, even in the arms of the enemy. I made mistakes; hell, everyone makes mistakes. But regrets? No. I did what I set out to do, and I'm comfortable with death. Many have died before me for their unpopular convictions, and often at the hands of a mad dictator. This is simply history repeating itself."
He crushes out the cigarette on the bottom of a booted foot, leaving the black-tip filter on the littered sidewalk.
"I've had my say. It's someone else's job now. El Presidente, I'm ready."
Emo_Pinata steps away from DRey's body, still on the floor, and seizes Zionite by the arm. Zionite resists, but Emo's a big man. Each tries to pull away, but they only manages to wobble the other. They shout at each other angrily, and their shouts carry over to the man in the Armani suit and Vincent, who walk toward the two. As they approach, Emo and Zionite stop fighting and watch them approach warily, still unconsciously clutching each other.
"Release him," the man in the Armani suit said, gun swaying at his side.
Emo's mouth falls open to protest, but his eyes are trained on the gun, which twitches ever so slightly. After a moment, he roughly throws Zionite toward the man in the Armani suit and stomps back into the crowd.
Zionite stumbles, but catches himself. He looks up at the man in the Armani suit, who leans over him with a sour look. "Do you have my case?" he asks Zionite.
Zionite spits out an obscenity and glares up at the other man, who smiles slightly. "You should know by now not to play games with me. Do you know who has it? No?" A slight shake of the head. "Then you're of no use to me." The man in the Armani suit leans down and grabs him by the hair, pulling him up. Zionite looks up at him, defiant, and the man in the Armani suit fluidly points his gun into Zionite's eye and fires.
A strangled cry rises from in the crowd. The man in the Armani suit turns sharply, to try to spot its source. Zionite falls from his hand, landing in a pile on the floor, with a soft thud that traveled in the silent room. After a moment, the man in the Armani suit growled slightly in impatience, turned on his heel, and walked from the room.
Vincent looked up at the crowd. His old mercenary face was starting to show its own cracks. "Clean up these two," he said, gesturing at his partner's debris. "We'll be back in thirty." And he followed the man in the Armani suit out the door.
A few of you move to Zionite's body and examine him.
Alex Carcurro - Neutral Lover
She talks, and her words pierce her heavenly aura. Everything else in the crowded, noisy bar seems to evaporate. Beautiful creature... and with you, poor boy from the neighborhood.
Men flit past your table. They look at her, briefly, and then they see your eyes follow theirs and they look away. But one guy, at another table, keeps looking at the back of her head. You can't see his face, but you sense his eyes in the dark, hidden by the upturned hood of a yellow windbreaker. You feel the blood rush through your head, and you intermittently glare at him between returned smiles. You wish, after this long, you could ignore the guy, but he doesn't leave. Always a different guy, always the same specter of doubt, hanging over her shoulder.
Outside, she takes your hand to pull you home, but you scan the crowd for him, and soon spot the yellow shade moving away.
"I've got to go get something. I'll see you back at the house." She smiles, kisses you on the cheek, and turns. You watch, for a lingering moment, as she walks away into the crowd. Then you turn back and follow the guy in the windbreaker, at a distance.
Four blocks later, he turns down an a narrow alley. Shortcut. You pick up your pace, and as he reaches the halfway point you shout. He turns back. Light barely reaches into the alley, but you recognize the yellow of his jacket, the whites of his shoes. He walks toward you slowly. "Who are you?"
You move urgently toward him. "You like lookin' at other men's women?"
"I don't know what the -" he speaks, before you cut him off with a sudden jab to the throat. He staggers back, coughing, and opens himself up to a punch to the face that lays him out. The light of the alley trails over his face, revealing a younger kid. He looks up at your shadowed face and tries to make out a question, or a plea.
You step over to his upturned head and look down. "Look the **** away," you say, as you pull back your leg for the first kick.
LOVERS: Your lover, [REDACTED], is here with you. The two of you may communicate at any time - PM the mod an email address which he may use to add you to this group. You would do anything to keep your lover safe.
ABILITIES:
- Subdue (T/N/P) - Send in the name of a player. If both you and your lover target the same player with this ability during the night, you gain control of one of that player’s votes tomorrow. He/she will be allowed to vote, but either of you may change that vote at any time (with the form Azrael Votes Xyre, either in-thread or via PM), and he/she will not be able to unvote that vote.
AWC - Your lover must stay alive. If she dies, you don’t know what you might do.
You step back from him, and look at each other. He was just a kid, trying to protect his world, put down for no reason. And if this is his fate, what will become of the rest of you?
"We should run," Wuffles_II stammers. "Get out before they come back."
"We can't all get out of here without them noticing, and they come back and find some of us gone..." DRey replies, pulling himself up from the floor. "There's no way."
The obvious, naive question goes unasked. So what will become of us?
It is now Night 1. You may not post. (The game's flavor takes place over one long night, but for the sake of simplicity I will use the standard terms of day/night for game periods.) PM me any abilities you wish to use.
Night ends on June 3rd at 1pm MST. Players who have not submitted an action/actions before then will take no action.
I'm not fond of all the passive lurking going on in this game. I know Memorial Day probably cut down on everyone's time, and the game is complex, but saying you aren't lurking because you make a post every three days promising future content isn't going to cut it. Expect more stringent enforcement of the spirit of the laws in future days.
You made a commitment when you signed up for this game, and I expect you all to follow through.
As you head back to the room after your break, two screams greet you, emanating down the hallways. Vincent and the man in the Armani suit are seated in the middle, and they raise their heads to greet the noise. "What was that?" Vincent asks warily. Each of you turns to another, unsure whether the man next to you is the same who was there an hour ago.
After some time, Wuffles_II and Arachnoid step into the room, dragging a pair of bodies behind them. "Looks like we're in some deep ****," Arachnoid says, unceremoniously letting Cyan's arms and head hit the floor. His face looks flattened and petrified - eyes open, mouth gasping at unknown air. Arcadic is a far worse scene - more blood than flesh visible, with long narrow streaks across his body.
More than a few of you wince at the sight, and turn to face the man in the Armani suit and his partner, who have stood up and backed away slightly. "That ain't us," Vincent says in a low voice. "I know what you're thinking, but we didn't do those two. We were meeting in another room the entire time. Couldn't have been us."
Wuffles glares at him. "How can we believe you?"
The man in the Armani suit steps forward and grabs Wuffles by the collar, holding his gun up between them. "You think I smothered that one and beat the other up. With this gun. You think I shoved the barrel down his throat 'til he choked?"
Wuffles stammers and says nothing cogent.
"Now," the man in the Armani suit continues, "it would appear I'm not the only one punching cards here. Seems we've walked into a bit of a mess, Vincent." Vincent nods. "And I think it's in our best interest if you find them for us, before they start piling up bodies."
"Or what?" Wuffles says unconvincingly.
"Or maybe I'll decide to see what they can offer me, and shoot you right now." He waves the gun slightly. "Can't say I'm opposed to that prospect."
He chuckles quietly to himself. "Maybe they have my case..."
Jack Larsen - Neutral Conspiracy Theorist
It started with a text message. ps7pcabtgx
You almost laughed when you saw it. Their coding methods were getting more sophisticated, sure, but that was only because the original messages had been rudimentary. This one was clearly just abbreviations, and it took only a moment for it to be clear: Pier-side, 7pm, come alone, bring the goods, X. They’d have to do better than that to keep you off the trail.
That was two months into your investigation. First it was just the mayor covering up the latest terraforming contracts - they went to his company, which everyone expected, but it was to whom he sent the contracts that mattered. But then things got complicated. A contact - small-time hood - was shot in the head. You knew it was a message to you. Which made you wonder why they thought you had the pieces... but that was a piece! They made a mistake. Now you knew the stakes. Who would kill a local hood to send a message? What would they gain?
No, no, there’s a far greater business scheme here, you’re sure. You watch patiently, watching them unload the crates. But these ones are different - not the mayor’s company, but Techra. That computer company you tied last year to the human-lab-rat-smuggling scheme. They don’t have any relations with terraforming, right? Unless they need the land...
CONSPIRACY: You’re a conspiracy theorist, so you should post like one - talk about all the connections between all the sinister organizations and people at work, allude to other conspiracies/mysteries and how they fit into your theory, babble like a madman, etc. (Here’s some inspiration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBDJ4dchwZ0) Failing to do so may compromise your mission. Good luck, and have fun.
You’re out to reveal the conspiracy you know is at work. But to reveal it, you need proof. First you need to identify someone on the inside. You know of two potential assets - Hanna Kells or Trisha Stern. If a player claims to be one of those people, or if one of them turns up dead, PM me and you will receive an ability and your next clue.
AWC - Unlock the conspiracy.
Aaron Timkovitch - Neutral Shapeshifter
You snap awake, your body instinctively pitching forward. But you don’t go anywhere. Quickly you realize it’s because you’re tied to the chair in which you sit.
A thuggish fellow leans over you. The dim dirty bulb over your head and the ember of his clenched cigarette barely illuminate his face. Simian, you’d say. “Welcome back. Thought we’d lost you there. Tony here gets a little too enthusiastic at times.” He gestures to two legs sticking out of the shadows. “We’ve tried to teach him how to interact with guests, but, well, you know what they say about old dogs...”
The pain in your face hits you like a wave. “Hgahh!” you manage to bark, before catching yourself.
“Gesundheit. Now, about our money. Our accountants tell us you’re underwater on your loan. That’s very serious, Aaron.” He looks down at you. “Nice body mods. I especially like the new tits. Very fitting.” The legs chuckle heartily. “I hear you’ve been spending your money on those. Sorry, our money. Makes me think they belong to me. Y’know, repossession.” He lowers his other hand into the light, revealing a gleaming scalpel.
“Wait, you don’t understand, I have to buy them, they stop working after a while and -”
“Not my department. Try tech support next time.” He leans in, and you can see his face clearly. Definitely simian. “Now, if you don’t have anything for me...”
“I can do a job! You guys do jobs, right! Anything! C’mon, man, please...”
He pauses, examining his dim reflection in the scalpel’s side. “Hmm. Well, we’ve got a few names picked out. Maybe you can pay a visit to them and... do some ‘repossessions’ of your own. Think you could manage that?”
“Yes, yes, anything! Who?” You’re wheezing now from elation at not getting vivisected.
He leans back and disappears into the shadows. The legs stir. “Max Carrow; Bruce; ‘Samson’; and Kasey Rose Larin. Kill them and you can keep your arms.”
“Who’s Bruce Samson?” you ask. The legs chuckle quietly. One raises up to your chest, and gives you a firm push. That thought, and the laugh, echo through your head, right up until it slams against the ground and shuts off.
ABILITIES: Mimic (T/N/P) - Send in the name of a player, living or dead. If he or she is on your hit-list, you permanently gain one of their abilities. (You can’t use this ability to regenerate charges on limited-use abilities.)
AWC - The four players on your list must die.
Eighteen alive means 10 to lynch or shutdown. Deadline is set for the 27th.
Well, I'm back, the move was successful - I'm now officially an Australian permanent resident, and fully functional and unemployed. I should have some time to read and post pretty soon.
I'm not surprised Cyan was killed, but I am surprised that Iso wasn't.
Well, I'm back, the move was successful - I'm now officially an Australian permanent resident, and fully functional and unemployed. I should have some time to read and post pretty soon.
I'm not surprised Cyan was killed, but I am surprised that Iso wasn't.
Why weren't you killed, Iso?
First off you should change your flag.
Second off I love Aussies. Some of my best friends are Australian.
Third off why would you think Iso would be killed?
Niv was Zionite's Lover. There is no other explanation for Zionite telling us to kill Niv except for him to have been his Lover, who he believed was mafia.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
EBWODP: Arcadic was on a Drey case and pushing him hard for Drey flip-flopping on stuff. I guess even more work needs to be reviewed. Oh bother.....
And this is exactly what I would expect from scumacius, you make things way too easy man.
@Iso we still have a dichotomy to sort. Today's lynch will be Eron or TIK. Anyway, why do you think Niv is scum?
@GDan Now I didn't expect this from you, from Macius sure, but definitively not from you, this is too blatant to be true. Detail to me why do you think Iso should've be NK last night? Also before you nth VLA from this game, can you post your reads and your list since I don't really remember anything you've said or done the whole game, and I dislike that greatly.
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Good day one and all. Today's count of those who have won is deuce.
EP is president (1)
TCM has more dead non-townies than townies (2)
Eron is alive (3)
So, we have the same problem as yesterday.
@Neutrals: If anyone else has completed their WC at this point, please claim so we can lynch guardman.
If no one else claims victory, I think that is enough proof that guard's ability is real, and while that doesn't clear him from being scum, it's enough that we should focus on TCM and Eron today. Preferably TCM.
I'm pretty much down to lynch TCM - hey, at worst we're lynching a neutral, which is kind of my plan anyway - but Macius not reading the game gives me a bit of a twinge. I still have plenty more notes to unload too, so expect that to happen in the near future.
I'm pretty much down to lynch TCM - hey, at worst we're lynching a neutral, which is kind of my plan anyway - but Macius not reading the game gives me a bit of a twinge. I still have plenty more notes to unload too, so expect that to happen in the near future.
explain that bit for me if you will? How am I not?
So your not paying attention but you have enough knowledge of the game to want 4+ people dead? That's believable. Actually, this is just deflection away from your terrible pushes on these people, your trying to wave off your scummy behavior by self-meta'ing yourself into "i'm a bad player day 1" but your actions show you very involved and knowing of the gamestate. Try again.
If i were you, i'd be voting you for using self-meta, after all, that's the reason you voted zionite over KCC isn't it?
Fix'd Fix'd and oh so Fix'd.
Here's a classic Drey flip-flop. 1st Post shows him willing to trust KCC's claim
2nd post, 2 hours later, shows Drey's utter doubt in TFF's claim. What?
You can't defend KCC's claim and then use someone trusting KCC's claim as evidence someone is scummy. Unless your scum.
unFOS, FOS Drey.
Would also keep my FOS on Guardman as well.
Vigs, SK's and EP's, please shoot the scum Drey.
My wife was on MTV with this video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUutIZg2EpU
I literally laughed out loud at this line.
FoS: Guardman, with the caveat that I'm missing 300 posts.
I hope I'm not -a neutral lynch is as good as a mislynch. The only way I could see going after a known neutral is if they try to shutdown, get close, but fall short on votes.
And yes, I claimed a while ago.
Sure, but a dead neutral is the same as a dead townie as far as the scum wincon is concerned.
But, you had nothing to do with the vote on iso? -And would this vote be posted by Xyre in thread, the way the vote on Iso was, or would it just show up in the vote count, like Zion's claimed vote ability?
Probably not. But we aren't going to lynch the ones we believe to be neutrals, so it benefits you to help root out the ones who are scum, so we can lynch them.
-Which is why it's in your best interest to participate in the scumhunting to make sure we don't mislynch townies.
He claimed he would currently win if the game ended by any means.
This is garbage. I misread one PM slightly and got the duration of my ability-loss wrong. But I've been crystal clear, repeatedly, about everything else.
I didn't have a solid town read on anyone, and EP is the player I'm most confident isn't scum.
At least one of Guardman/TCM/Eron/Zion is definitely lying. Why don't we focus on figuring that out?
-BTW, I still never targeted Xyre. I considered using it on him, but never attempted it, because I lost use of my abilities first.
The rest of this post looks good, though I disagree with clearing TCM for claiming first. (Think about if two players claim doc; do you trust the one who claimed first? -No, you usually trust the player who counter-claimed. And in this case, that's Eron.)
@Eron: Do you have a wincon in your role PM?
I mean, seriously. How long is it going to take for you guys to figure this out? Helping neutrals is going to lose us this game.
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
Obviously.
So you provide no context on why this is important, matters, doesn't matter, etc. Way to look like you are doing something when in fact you aren't.
1. That is a complete misrep of what occured. Try again.
2. So you're angry that I fooled you? Why let that play into your choices here?
3. Why not?
4. Well prepared to be disappointed.
5. Absolutely (and you still haven't provided said reasons)
As you yourself established above you are clearly not reading. WHY WOULD ANYONE BET THEIR LIFE THAT I WOULD FLIP TOWN WHEN I CLAIMED A NEUTRAL SURVIVOR - PLEASE PAY ATTENTION.
Cool story.
You forgot a few, so I took a minute to highlight them in blue... Might help if you weren't slinging paint on everyone you can.
I'll provide your own quotes to help refresh you on who you dislike:
How is bloodthirsty Null? You have expressed dislike for almost half the players in this game.
Where have you done this? You haven't explained anything, really.
Why not? Explain to everyone why this is impossible.
That's all you got? Have you reread the game?
ModGame and AtE. Cool.
This was a disaster UNFoS TCM; FoS DRey
Do you mean a regular one as opposed to the AWC?
IB: Trust me. Also, I do need to check something you posted, I'll look into that after this.
Zindabad: Given that we currently have ~11 claimed Neutrals, if you DON'T help the Neutrals, we have no reason to help you - and currently, there can be no scum lynch without Neutrals and/or scum on the wagon. So, if you want us to cooperate, shapen up.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Some of those claimed neutrals are scum too, and others (like TCM) already have incentives to help.
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Making enemies of neutrals is not a wise idea, am I on the right track Iso?
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyI think we could manage that. I'm not going to be held hostage by a group of players who aren't playing the same game I am.
I also remember Sword of Truth, where we decided in our infinite wisdom to leave the neutrals alone and let them play to their own claimed wincon. That worked out real well. Not happening again.
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
I mean, is there anything in your role PM explaining how you win?
Yes. I have a section at the end that is AWC: don't die.
Yeah, except we don't end the game when we win it.
Playing the "lynch the Neutrals" game just to lynch Neutrals is a dick move and you're going to get a lot of hate for it. You're also aiding the mafia win condition by going after Neutrals.
@E_P: Baw. Wish you picked Niv.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
[ooc]This setup is clearly different than SoT was, or than any other game has been. It is plainly obvious that there are tons of neutrals. Are some of the claimed neutrals scum? Probably. But I doubt that every scum is just going to claim neutral. You are going to have to go outside of your comfort zone and think outside of the box for this game. Playing against the neutrals is a strategy that will only assist the scum.[/ooc]
Cyan looks at El Presidente: "Decent choice, sir. Guardman would have been preferable, but likely they are both scum. We'll work it out tomorrow."
Don't hate me because I'm sexy.
Cyan is obviously a cat person.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I think he's the least likely scum of the four.
Except through shutdown?
You seem to think I'm doing this just because I don't like neutrals, or possibly the players that are neutrals in this game. That isn't the case. In Meadows, I fought on Charm_Master's behalf to try to get him to win the game as a neutral; in the end, the town opted not to allow him to win.
However, I have also lost games to neutrals who should never, ever have remained alive (chimes, kpaca in CCMIV, AE in Manga Mafia, etc) and I can't let that happen again. I see minimal benefit to keeping you guys happy or helping to fulfill your wincons. I'm not going to pretend otherwise. You are obstacles that we are going to have to overcome in order to be successful in this game, not allies.
I imagine that the scum also see the sense in what I'm saying and will realize it's in their best interest to work to eliminate the neutrals before shutdown can be achieved -- and that is what you are all working toward. Please don't insult me by arguing otherwise. Any of you would push the button, given the chance to win on the spot.
Says the neutral.
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
I can assure you that there is no need for me to Shutdown to win.
All will become clear eventually.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
(P.S. I'm happy with this Zionite lynch.)
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
Remember how I said we definitely shouldn't power up E_P? Can anyone explain to me where the benefit to the town is in giving a neutral the ability to control the D1 lynch? How are we coming out ahead because we gave E_P what he wanted?
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
Severely disappointed in everyone. I was really looking forward to helping the town win, and you've betrayed me.
VIG: Shoot TCM.
Town: Lynch Niv tomorrow.
This will put you on the right track, but I'm still missing two more scum. That'll be up to you guys.
The Family
Yes there is.
"I always dreamt of being the hero, even in the arms of the enemy. I made mistakes; hell, everyone makes mistakes. But regrets? No. I did what I set out to do, and I'm comfortable with death. Many have died before me for their unpopular convictions, and often at the hands of a mad dictator. This is simply history repeating itself."
He crushes out the cigarette on the bottom of a booted foot, leaving the black-tip filter on the littered sidewalk.
"I've had my say. It's someone else's job now. El Presidente, I'm ready."
"Release him," the man in the Armani suit said, gun swaying at his side.
Emo's mouth falls open to protest, but his eyes are trained on the gun, which twitches ever so slightly. After a moment, he roughly throws Zionite toward the man in the Armani suit and stomps back into the crowd.
Zionite stumbles, but catches himself. He looks up at the man in the Armani suit, who leans over him with a sour look. "Do you have my case?" he asks Zionite.
Zionite spits out an obscenity and glares up at the other man, who smiles slightly. "You should know by now not to play games with me. Do you know who has it? No?" A slight shake of the head. "Then you're of no use to me." The man in the Armani suit leans down and grabs him by the hair, pulling him up. Zionite looks up at him, defiant, and the man in the Armani suit fluidly points his gun into Zionite's eye and fires.
A strangled cry rises from in the crowd. The man in the Armani suit turns sharply, to try to spot its source. Zionite falls from his hand, landing in a pile on the floor, with a soft thud that traveled in the silent room. After a moment, the man in the Armani suit growled slightly in impatience, turned on his heel, and walked from the room.
Vincent looked up at the crowd. His old mercenary face was starting to show its own cracks. "Clean up these two," he said, gesturing at his partner's debris. "We'll be back in thirty." And he followed the man in the Armani suit out the door.
A few of you move to Zionite's body and examine him.
You step back from him, and look at each other. He was just a kid, trying to protect his world, put down for no reason. And if this is his fate, what will become of the rest of you?
"We should run," Wuffles_II stammers. "Get out before they come back."
"We can't all get out of here without them noticing, and they come back and find some of us gone..." DRey replies, pulling himself up from the floor. "There's no way."
The obvious, naive question goes unasked. So what will become of us?
It is now Night 1. You may not post. (The game's flavor takes place over one long night, but for the sake of simplicity I will use the standard terms of day/night for game periods.) PM me any abilities you wish to use.
Night ends on June 3rd at 1pm MST. Players who have not submitted an action/actions before then will take no action.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
I'm not fond of all the passive lurking going on in this game. I know Memorial Day probably cut down on everyone's time, and the game is complex, but saying you aren't lurking because you make a post every three days promising future content isn't going to cut it. Expect more stringent enforcement of the spirit of the laws in future days.
You made a commitment when you signed up for this game, and I expect you all to follow through.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
After some time, Wuffles_II and Arachnoid step into the room, dragging a pair of bodies behind them. "Looks like we're in some deep ****," Arachnoid says, unceremoniously letting Cyan's arms and head hit the floor. His face looks flattened and petrified - eyes open, mouth gasping at unknown air. Arcadic is a far worse scene - more blood than flesh visible, with long narrow streaks across his body.
More than a few of you wince at the sight, and turn to face the man in the Armani suit and his partner, who have stood up and backed away slightly. "That ain't us," Vincent says in a low voice. "I know what you're thinking, but we didn't do those two. We were meeting in another room the entire time. Couldn't have been us."
Wuffles glares at him. "How can we believe you?"
The man in the Armani suit steps forward and grabs Wuffles by the collar, holding his gun up between them. "You think I smothered that one and beat the other up. With this gun. You think I shoved the barrel down his throat 'til he choked?"
Wuffles stammers and says nothing cogent.
"Now," the man in the Armani suit continues, "it would appear I'm not the only one punching cards here. Seems we've walked into a bit of a mess, Vincent." Vincent nods. "And I think it's in our best interest if you find them for us, before they start piling up bodies."
"Or what?" Wuffles says unconvincingly.
"Or maybe I'll decide to see what they can offer me, and shoot you right now." He waves the gun slightly. "Can't say I'm opposed to that prospect."
He chuckles quietly to himself. "Maybe they have my case..."
As you were.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Cyan being killed does not surprise me. Arcadic on the other hand....
Why would someone go after someone who was at the dead bottom of the post count? I honestly didnt recall that Arcadic was playing....
I'll return after I check up on something. I need to go do more election stuff (my job is never over it seems.)
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething Spicy540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyI'm not surprised Cyan was killed, but I am surprised that Iso wasn't.
Why weren't you killed, Iso?
First off you should change your flag.
Second off I love Aussies. Some of my best friends are Australian.
Third off why would you think Iso would be killed?
Niv was Zionite's Lover. There is no other explanation for Zionite telling us to kill Niv except for him to have been his Lover, who he believed was mafia.
Oh, you mean for naming the entire scum team in one post?
I dunno, why didn't you guys kill me?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
V/LA Mon, Bonnaroo
@Iso we still have a dichotomy to sort. Today's lynch will be Eron or TIK. Anyway, why do you think Niv is scum?
@GDan Now I didn't expect this from you, from Macius sure, but definitively not from you, this is too blatant to be true. Detail to me why do you think Iso should've be NK last night? Also before you nth VLA from this game, can you post your reads and your list since I don't really remember anything you've said or done the whole game, and I dislike that greatly.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
EP is president (1)
TCM has more dead non-townies than townies (2)
Eron is alive (3)
So, we have the same problem as yesterday.
@Neutrals: If anyone else has completed their WC at this point, please claim so we can lynch guardman.
If no one else claims victory, I think that is enough proof that guard's ability is real, and while that doesn't clear him from being scum, it's enough that we should focus on TCM and Eron today. Preferably TCM.
This irritates me.
The di/trichotomy stands. TCM is by far the scummiest.
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
explain that bit for me if you will? How am I not?
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething Spicy"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
Does anyone else have this wording?