Charmmod might conclude that you were technically dead before the question was asked, so it's invalid. That's up to him though. When you brought that up first thing after seeing the Daykill, I thought the Daykill might be a fish for reaction to speed things up and your reaction was solidly town. It would appear that AI isn't messing around though, but I'll wait to hear from Charm before I stop at any conclusion.
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Make sure to look into AsianI. His reasoning for the DayKill is not good.
"I believe you are scum so therefore you should die before using your ability." He says this despite my ability be proven at least. Town would let me finish my ability prior to this. Scum would not.
Make sure to look into AsianI. His reasoning for the DayKill is not good.
"I believe you are scum so therefore you should die before using your ability." He says this despite my ability be proven at least. Town would let me finish my ability prior to this. Scum would not.
How much do you think your judgment is being swayed right now by the fact that AI's the one who killed you?
There's no doubt that the Daykill and nearly everything else about AI/Seppel is suspicious. However, I'm unsure if what you are saying here is coming from an overabundance of emotion or not.
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How much do you think your judgment is being swayed right now by the fact that AI's the one who killed you?
There's no doubt that the Daykill and nearly everything else about AI/Seppel is suspicious. However, I'm unsure if what you are saying here is coming from an overabundance of emotion or not.
FWIW, I did not need to have emotion to make that post. I accepted the fact that the DayKill was likely to be real and then when thinking it through, why would a townie kill of a information role. It makes no sense.
Even if I was scum the truth would have come out on my ability later in the game and proving whether or not the information was true or flase. So, why is there a need to rush in with a Day Kill? I will tell you. There isn't. Either AsianI is scum or he is the SK and did not want the SK statement to be made true. The town gets to decide which one.
Was going to respond to a lot of stuff about Void, but that doesn't matter because DayKill. Barring a big surprising turn, Void will flip town, which means three townies has died so far, Day 1. We need to decide on scum to lynch, people.
I'll go back and compare DH's wagon to Voids, I think that's the way to go around this. I also give scumpoints to everyone stating that Void should have used his statements to locate a SK (maybe except Gricky who just summarized it), as we all know town has no reason to go SK-hunting and will know soon enough if there is one.
Also, DRey sounds like DRey. High profile, high activity, probably wrong a lot but not really scummy.
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You're slipping. Neither this nor the previous point is taking any effort to shred.
Clearly. I might as well turn myself in now, right?
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So let's see what we've got. Void, Iso, Arcadic, and DRey have all linked themselves together.
I protest. Arcadic apparently thinks I'm scum - and I think he's scum. I think Void is town. DRey thinks Void is town. Arcadic thinks Void is town. I don't know what the hell DRey is. Arcadic has not expressed opinion on DRey, but I think DRey thinks Arcadic is scum? Void thinks I'm town, and I am not sure of his opinions of the other two. That being said, we're hardly "linked" as you seem to think.
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Each of the four proclaims Void as town, so much so that they're willing to ignore any consequences to themselves. DRey in particular has been trying to get anyone, including himself, lynched in order to save Void.
I really want to know what importance Void holds to the scum that they're willing to go so far.
I'm seeing a CC (not a full on CC, but still a CC nonetheless) and Kpaca calling him scum. I am aware this does not confirm Seppel as scum, but I am willing to trust Kpaca (since his claim is what he said it was) fully. I don't have my vote on Seppel since you said Seppel was a non issue.
There's no doubt that the Daykill and nearly everything else about AI/Seppel is suspicious. However, I'm unsure if what you are saying here is coming from an overabundance of emotion or not.
That's ridiculous, Iso. Why are you attacking me for having multiple scum suspects? What's inconsistent about having both you and Void as suspects? How did you even come to that conclusion?
That's ridiculous, Wessel! Why are you misrepping me for calling you out? That's not what I said was inconsistent at all! I came to that conclusion by reading your posts!
Was going to respond to a lot of stuff about Void, but that doesn't matter because DayKill. Barring a big surprising turn, Void will flip town, which means three townies has died so far, Day 1. We need to decide on scum to lynch, people.
Hi! What do you think of my reads?
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I'll go back and compare DH's wagon to Voids, I think that's the way to go around this. I also give scumpoints to everyone stating that Void should have used his statements to locate a SK (maybe except Gricky who just summarized it), as we all know town has no reason to go SK-hunting and will know soon enough if there is one.
I advocate analyzing the DH wagon vs. the Void wagon.
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are you guys serious? why ask this question that only helps the scumteam? ask the friggin question that proves Seppel is lying scum Void!
Step1: Void: "Kpaca was the only neutral of this game when it started"
Step2: Charm: "that's true"
Step3: lynch Seppel and AI
Step4: profit.
Is this hard?
@Cyoni I'm serious ashamed of yourself, this point you made is so terrible it really look like you are Iso, in the slim chance you are town please take a break from mafia because you need it.
@wheat do you really thought that was a good point?
@Iso Cyoni point was exactly the kind of thing you love to attack people for ("the reason Kpaca and Al were killed is because they were the two highest posters so Seppel is involved" ), there's something strange with you as I expected you to have latched on me already.
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@Cyoni I'm serious ashamed of yourself, this point you made is so terrible it really look like you are Iso, in the slim chance you are town please take a break from mafia because you need it.
Hey look, he can't substantiate any claims that I'm scum. Who'd have thought? Instead, he simply resorts to ad hom and inside information that I'm town.
For me to be "ashamed of myself" means that I can't be scum because my scum meta is apparently "playing badly" - yet he tries to pretend he thinks I'm scum.
Priceless.
Not to mention the fact that he's completely ignoring any attempt at the meta case he pretends he has because he know it'd be shredded.
I protest. Arcadic apparently thinks I'm scum - and I think he's scum. I think Void is town. DRey thinks Void is town. Arcadic thinks Void is town. I don't know what the hell DRey is. Arcadic has not expressed opinion on DRey, but I think DRey thinks Arcadic is scum? Void thinks I'm town, and I am not sure of his opinions of the other two. That being said, we're hardly "linked" as you seem to think.
DRey's shamelessly sheeping Arcadic's misreps to death.
I advocate analyzing the DH wagon vs. the Void wagon.
I think your reads are not bad at all. We agreed on Void, and I think you yourself are looking very much like town. It looks like we agree on DRey as well. Aside from that my own reads are terribly fuzzy because I've been away from this game to long, and will need to reread some 15+ pages to consider myself back in action. Wheat and Cyonis latest doesn't sit right with my gut, but that will have to be reconsidered after reread.
Will analyse the wagons now.
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Also, Void isn't daykilled. @AsianI, why did you post 'Daykill: Void'? Also, please answer my other question. (Namely, why daykill Void before he asked his third question.)
I got the reaction I wanted. We were seriously wasting time with this question crap; he obviously can't ask anything we actually care about. If there is a SK, it will become blatantly obvious once the kills start racking up; worrying about it now accomplishes nothing.
The talks have become very heated, the commander noted from above. She had already considered taking another shot to prove her point...but she'd pray that the girls sorted things out. Gods, this was going to be a long affair. The sun was setting too...and despite magic and all its perks, teenage girls often need sleep in order to function rationally. Magic infused speech flooded the air as the woman instinctively covered her eyes before a blinding burst covered the area.
"Is anyone hurt? What happened?" A quick head count...everything seems to be alright. Using such wide area magic in a place like this...the effects could be devastating.
Thankfully, as far as any of you can tell, you can't recall seeing anyone missing. The twenty-one of you continue cussing and discussing, but between hunger and sleep, things will have to stop for tonight sooner rather than later.
Apparently searching for user "Charm" really doesn't do anything, so the votecounts selected might not show all players voting. I did see Wessel joining the Void wagon after the votecount, not that it matters much.
The easy analyze that even I can succeed in: Megiddo, Cyoni and Wheat_Grinder are on both wagons. None of them started the respective wagons, and none of them drove the cases openly.
I tried to search the thread to figure out who ever voted Ahlyis, and the only one I could find was DH. Apparently Ahlyis was the most obvious town ever. Cyoni did however ridicule his opinions somewhat, that caught my eye.
Megiddo: Early case refuted heavily, then disappeared from the game. Only makes small, commenting, uncontroversial posts after the case on him as blown over.
Wheat_Grinder: On both wagons, scummy latin-gambit which people apparently has forgotten about, plus I don't like how he has turned more agressive lately.
Cyoni: I know nothing about this guy except that he is regarded as one of the good, experienced players on here. I don't think his play has reflected that if he is town, he has however expressed that he is very certain of Void beeing scum.
All of theese three players I allready had on my scumdar (had kindof forgotten about Megiddo, but he never really fell off it), which makes me confident about reading them as scum.
I had a feeling about Infinis as well, but he wasn't on any of the wagons which is a point in his favor. Zajnet on the first, DRey very openly opposing the second. Might be to openly, but I'm not one to see through double/triple bluffs, and have a good feeling about him. Guardman was not on the Void wagon (or has he been and I've missed it?), but that might have been a ploy to gain his trust to get him to post the statements which Guardman proposed, which was all about neutrals. A lot of other players did this was well though. The rest of the wagons I believe to be filled with town and Seppel, which wasn't on the DH-wagon. That's rather strange, since he appears to be content with lynching anyone but himself and AI. Maybe he is not as bloodthirsty as he appears.
AI's daykill seems legitimately wraught out of frustration and tiredness of this long, exhausting day. He's pretty null to me.
I will be voting one of my three candidates shortly, awaiting Voids flip first since one cannot be 100% certain that he actually is town yet and we will have the confirmation soon. Haven't really decided which one of them to go for though.
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Was going to respond to a lot of stuff about Void, but that doesn't matter because DayKill. Barring a big surprising turn, Void will flip town, which means three townies has died so far, Day 1. We need to decide on scum to lynch, people.
I totally forgot that Aud was doing the same play as DRey and Iso too, with "Void is town and I don't have a good reason why" comments. Funny, he's also on my scumlist. I thought there was someone else too, Arcadic maybe? Iso and DRey have been the most vocal about it. Also, this ties Aud to Iso even tighter than they already were (remember Iso votes Meg, Aud asks why, Iso says "read" and Aud says "OH! /barn").
I'll go back and compare DH's wagon to Voids, I think that's the way to go around this. I also give scumpoints to everyone stating that Void should have used his statements to locate a SK (maybe except Gricky who just summarized it), as we all know town has no reason to go SK-hunting and will know soon enough if there is one.
Hmm, it would appear that I'm the exception to the rule? Except in my list of questions I support, I supported an SK question. Also, how do I not get bonus points for being the one to step in and suggest the SK question at the last minute when it looked like AI was killing void?
You've got a grudge against me, and just because I've caught you as scum here doesn't mean you should grudge me for the rest of your time alive.
@Iso Cyoni point was exactly the kind of thing you love to attack people for ("the reason Kpaca and Al were killed is because they were the two highest posters so Seppel is involved" ), there's something strange with you as I expected you to have latched on me already.
You don't have like two words regarding Iso so far and suddenly you attack him once people are suggesting that both you and Iso are scum because you are both defending the same player without reason? I just find this bit suspicious.
Uh, I think you mean everyone should vote DRey with ME. I was first, you are following me now.
Also, I may have alluded to it earlier, but I thought the Daykill might have been a gambit from AI, seeing as how we've already had two daykillish abilities so far. Given that it was a gambit, Void's responses make him pretty town to me, most especially his quick response to use his questions. Whether the question was useful or not doesn't matter, but his mindset there is "Oh crap lets try and get some use out of this for the town before I die". Note that it was for the town because he suggested what question to ask to the town. Had he been scum, I believe he would have just asked whatever question he wanted to.
But yeah, vote DRey so we can lynch scum. Or Iso or Aud, but DRey's the closest we get to a sure thing scum lynch.
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But yeah, vote DRey so we can lynch scum. Or Iso or Aud, but DRey's the closest we get to a sure thing scum lynch.
Whats the problem with DRey? Seems everyone has a problem with him coming in here throwing his weight around.
unvote vote Wessel
Who carres to join me?
I take Voids reaction and replies to be genuine. Don't have a problem with AIs play. Don't see the both of them scum together as that would tie them and kill them.
I totally forgot that Aud was doing the same play as DRey and Iso too, with "Void is town and I don't have a good reason why" comments. Funny, he's also on my scumlist. I thought there was someone else too, Arcadic maybe? Iso and DRey have been the most vocal about it. Also, this ties Aud to Iso even tighter than they already were (remember Iso votes Meg, Aud asks why, Iso says "read" and Aud says "OH! /barn").
Hmm, it would appear that I'm the exception to the rule? Except in my list of questions I support, I supported an SK question. Also, how do I not get bonus points for being the one to step in and suggest the SK question at the last minute when it looked like AI was killing void?
You've got a grudge against me, and just because I've caught you as scum here doesn't mean you should grudge me for the rest of your time alive.
1: Blabla oldstuff.
2: I said maybe. And the maybe was because I did not take notice of you actually making the proposed statement, but summarising (am I using the wrong word here?) what the majority of the proposers proposed. Hence no bonus points.
3: No I don't, and how the hell does that post suggest it? I'm befuddled. If anyone carries a grudge it's obviously you.
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Apparently searching for user "Charm" really doesn't do anything, so the votecounts selected might not show all players voting. I did see Wessel joining the Void wagon after the votecount, not that it matters much.
The easy analyze that even I can succeed in: Megiddo, Cyoni and Wheat_Grinder are on both wagons. None of them started the respective wagons, and none of them drove the cases openly.
I tried to search the thread to figure out who ever voted Ahlyis, and the only one I could find was DH. Apparently Ahlyis was the most obvious town ever. Cyoni did however ridicule his opinions somewhat, that caught my eye.
Megiddo: Early case refuted heavily, then disappeared from the game. Only makes small, commenting, uncontroversial posts after the case on him as blown over.
Wheat_Grinder: On both wagons, scummy latin-gambit which people apparently has forgotten about, plus I don't like how he has turned more agressive lately.
Cyoni: I know nothing about this guy except that he is regarded as one of the good, experienced players on here. I don't think his play has reflected that if he is town, he has however expressed that he is very certain of Void beeing scum.
All of theese three players I allready had on my scumdar (had kindof forgotten about Megiddo, but he never really fell off it), which makes me confident about reading them as scum.
I had a feeling about Infinis as well, but he wasn't on any of the wagons which is a point in his favor. Zajnet on the first, DRey very openly opposing the second. Might be to openly, but I'm not one to see through double/triple bluffs, and have a good feeling about him. Guardman was not on the Void wagon (or has he been and I've missed it?), but that might have been a ploy to gain his trust to get him to post the statements which Guardman proposed, which was all about neutrals. A lot of other players did this was well though. The rest of the wagons I believe to be filled with town and Seppel, which wasn't on the DH-wagon. That's rather strange, since he appears to be content with lynching anyone but himself and AI. Maybe he is not as bloodthirsty as he appears.
AI's daykill seems legitimately wraught out of frustration and tiredness of this long, exhausting day. He's pretty null to me.
I will be voting one of my three candidates shortly, awaiting Voids flip first since one cannot be 100% certain that he actually is town yet and we will have the confirmation soon. Haven't really decided which one of them to go for though.
I was on the DH wagon, right before kpaca on the end.
I'm amused that [Shalako], of all people, are talking about terrible reasoning. "Hey, PF's RVS daykill must be serious, therefore I should shoot him to prove that I have a daykill!"
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But yeah, Arn covered it pretty well. And I've still named at least 3 scum already. You should jump on the Wessel wagon with AE and me!
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I'm very sorry for not being commuted to the game. It seems like every time I look at this thread there's a huge wall of text tor me to read and analyze and there is basically more fun stuff for me to do than do this. Help?
Also, when I say he attacked me without evidence now, it is regarding his claim that I was smearing him. He gave no argument why it was smearing, even when I asked him.
Lets start with this one here. Everything else later today if I get the time.
Your twisting what I said to try and show me in a scummy light. Your implying that I could care less what we say to the mod.
Arcadic wanted to know if it would be better IF we got a reply from the mod. It does not matter. The statement we would be saying we already know to be true or false, whichever way we phrase it. So if we get a reply it tells us something. If we don't get a reply it tells us something. Two sides of the same coin here. So for you to try and use this to push for my lynch is ubber scummy.
So tell me. Does it matter if we say, the name of the game is ... Or the name of the game isn't...
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I'm too busy to make a full post now, so my notes:
Disagree that AI's false daykill cleared Void. Chance of it being fake was too high. Will elaborate later. Also will need to read his reactions very carefully, but I doubt it'll change my mind.
Audinho's last post was town-motivated. Enough so that it's very unlikely he's scum. (This is also a note for a previous post he made, one responding to a question I asked.)
[2] Exactly. It's because the question you posed was in fact not helpful to the town, because it would not give any confirmation from the mod - which is what we want.
IT WOULD SHOW IF HE WAS ANSWERING TRUTHFULLY!!!
[3] Some people are so unsure about Void's ability that they wanted to do another validation question. But if you're unsure about the ability being correct, wouldn't you want confirmation from the mod? If you don't get confirmation, you're still not sure. So it isn't 'either way is fine'. But that wouldn't be so scummy if it wasn't after Arcadic specifically asked you if it wouldn't be better to ask a question that would get confirmation.
Wow. What are you doing? No answer from the mod is the same as an answer from the mod depending how we phrase the statement.
Your trying hard I'll give you that.
[4] That only works if you're sure that Void is telling the truth. Are you sure? Is he telling the truth? Can you tell me?
It has nothing to do with Void. It has to do with knowing the replies we're getting are truthful. Stating something we know will prove that.
After sleeping on it (and ignoring it, which helped surprisingly) I've come to the conclusion I am not comfortable with a Void lynch today. Behavorially he is scummy, but I am sort of unsure what to make of him after his ability and AI's false vig shot. Combine that with a plethora of other viable lynches and I feel it's best to not lynch him today.
As to who I feel most confident lynching right now, gotta go with Meg. He's scum.
Some people say his case was 'amazing'. I don't see how. In his case he made three points against me: 1) my position versus Void, 2) that I would be amassing claims, and 3) that I think tordeck is town.
I refuted all these things, and although Archmage Eternal replied once, he then let it go. I don't see his case holding any merit, if you believe different, please tell me how.
Also, when I say he attacked me without evidence now, it is regarding his claim that I was smearing him. He gave no argument why it was smearing, even when I asked him.
While you did respond, the response was lackluster. You said you were watching Void and trying to solidify a read on him. I read that as watching reactions to him to decide whether or not to jump on the wagon. Plus, you've been sitting in the backseat, pushing mildly on stuff at best, and it just doesn't sit right with me.
[1] What do you mean, where was I? Anyway, can you please answer the question I asked you, Iso? Why did you already want to compare the wagon between Void and DH, before we even know Void is town?
Because I believe Void is town. Where were you? As in, why aren't you aware that I addressed that already?
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[2] No, I vote for those I suspect are scum. That Archmage Eternal happens to think I'm scum does not mean I would be so childish that that would be a reason to vote him.
Just a strange coincidence, then, that you think everyone who attacks you is scum.
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[3] Your... reason... to vote for me is because I voted for someone (AE) who already had a vote on me? Is that... your case? That's... fine.
Part of the reason. Pay. Attention. Seriously, does everyone just skim my posts?
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I'm too busy to make a full post now, so my notes:
Disagree that AI's false daykill cleared Void. Chance of it being fake was too high. Will elaborate later. Also will need to read his reactions very carefully, but I doubt it'll change my mind.
Audinho's last post was town-motivated. Enough so that it's very unlikely he's scum. (This is also a note for a previous post he made, one responding to a question I asked.)
I know you said you would elaborate later, but are you postulating that AI and Void are in cahoots?
I'm too busy to make a full post now, so my notes:
Disagree that AI's false daykill cleared Void. Chance of it being fake was too high. Will elaborate later. Also will need to read his reactions very carefully, but I doubt it'll change my mind.
I know you said you would elaborate later, but are you postulating that AI and Void are in cahoots?
No. That would be terribly unlikely. That would require Void, AI, and Seppel to all be scum.
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Anyways, I'm of the belief that Void figured it wasn't a real daykill and decided to take advantage of it. If it was fake, then he gained the possibility of not being lynched. If not, he was dead anyways, so no loss there.
This seems so far from his previous reaction that it's unnatural. It's gone from "I have no reason to think this is false" to a completely joking tone - "Could you warn a guy next time", especially paired with that emoticon, is about as far from "I think I've just been daykilled" as one can get.
Scum team:
Seppel (You cased another townie good job!)
Audinho
Megiddo
Infinis
Wessel
He's pretty much been completely silent on everyone except Seppel (who he's, amusingly, comparing to when Seppel was town while trying to argue Seppel's scum) for the last few hundred posts. Nothing's changed.
Make sure to look into AsianI. His reasoning for the DayKill is not good.
"I believe you are scum so therefore you should die before using your ability." He says this despite my ability be proven at least. Town would let me finish my ability prior to this. Scum would not.
Note how AI isn't on his scum-team list. Yet he's also arguing that AI is scum.
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It's likely that Void figured out the daykill was fake - it came from the wrong person.
If the daykill was real, then AI (and therefore probably Seppel) would probably be lying, and therefore likely scum - it makes little sense for the daykill to be something AI had before he "linked" with Seppel. If he knew, however, that AI wasn't scum, then he could simply extrapolate that AI was probably telling the truth about his interaction with Seppel, and therefore there was actually no daykill. It's something that'd be put down to a gut read, but that's the line of logic behind it. If AI is assumed to be town, then a daykill at this point from him is highly unlikely.
Void's flippant tone while being daykilled and very...uninformative scum list, together with having to be pressed to provide it, make it likely he noticed that.
Audinho's last post was town-motivated. Enough so that it's very unlikely he's scum. (This is also a note for a previous post he made, one responding to a question I asked.)
Side-note: Audinho looks completely clueless, but he's trying. If he's scum, then he's doing a perfect impression of clueless town, one that also meshes perfectly with what he said before. I could do a line-by-line description of Audinho's mindset, but I'm far too lazy and there's no point.
Also, he's picked up DRey's habit of being able to spell usernames correctly, but that's just me being picky.
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While I'm on that point, I note that DRey is still trying to get away from making that meta case on me. I'm waiting, and getting terribly bored doing so.
I really would not mind voting DRey, but I cannot get over the fact that he's willing to see himself dead to keep Void alive. Even if we assume Void is town, no scum would do that for a town. Scum trying to keep their more powerful member alive is far more likely, and so I'd like to see Void dead before DRey.
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Say what?
Wait...you're actually town? No BS?
Charmmod might conclude that you were technically dead before the question was asked, so it's invalid. That's up to him though. When you brought that up first thing after seeing the Daykill, I thought the Daykill might be a fish for reaction to speed things up and your reaction was solidly town. It would appear that AI isn't messing around though, but I'll wait to hear from Charm before I stop at any conclusion.
"I believe you are scum so therefore you should die before using your ability." He says this despite my ability be proven at least. Town would let me finish my ability prior to this. Scum would not.
How much do you think your judgment is being swayed right now by the fact that AI's the one who killed you?
There's no doubt that the Daykill and nearly everything else about AI/Seppel is suspicious. However, I'm unsure if what you are saying here is coming from an overabundance of emotion or not.
FWIW, I did not need to have emotion to make that post. I accepted the fact that the DayKill was likely to be real and then when thinking it through, why would a townie kill of a information role. It makes no sense.
Vote DRey
Was going to respond to a lot of stuff about Void, but that doesn't matter because DayKill. Barring a big surprising turn, Void will flip town, which means three townies has died so far, Day 1. We need to decide on scum to lynch, people.
I'll go back and compare DH's wagon to Voids, I think that's the way to go around this. I also give scumpoints to everyone stating that Void should have used his statements to locate a SK (maybe except Gricky who just summarized it), as we all know town has no reason to go SK-hunting and will know soon enough if there is one.
Also, DRey sounds like DRey. High profile, high activity, probably wrong a lot but not really scummy.
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Clearly. I might as well turn myself in now, right?
I protest. Arcadic apparently thinks I'm scum - and I think he's scum. I think Void is town. DRey thinks Void is town. Arcadic thinks Void is town. I don't know what the hell DRey is. Arcadic has not expressed opinion on DRey, but I think DRey thinks Arcadic is scum? Void thinks I'm town, and I am not sure of his opinions of the other two. That being said, we're hardly "linked" as you seem to think.
Or maybe...Void's town.
Thank you for illustrating my point.
Imagine that.
This is OMGUS. You know better than this.
Oh god I laughed.
That's ridiculous, Wessel! Why are you misrepping me for calling you out? That's not what I said was inconsistent at all! I came to that conclusion by reading your posts!
Hi! What do you think of my reads?
I advocate analyzing the DH wagon vs. the Void wagon.
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are you guys serious? why ask this question that only helps the scumteam? ask the friggin question that proves Seppel is lying scum Void!
Step1: Void: "Kpaca was the only neutral of this game when it started"
Step2: Charm: "that's true"
Step3: lynch Seppel and AI
Step4: profit.
Is this hard?
@Cyoni I'm serious ashamed of yourself, this point you made is so terrible it really look like you are Iso, in the slim chance you are town please take a break from mafia because you need it.
@wheat do you really thought that was a good point?
@Iso Cyoni point was exactly the kind of thing you love to attack people for ("the reason Kpaca and Al were killed is because they were the two highest posters so Seppel is involved" ), there's something strange with you as I expected you to have latched on me already.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Yep, I do. You really thought that Arcadic had a good point?
For me to be "ashamed of myself" means that I can't be scum because my scum meta is apparently "playing badly" - yet he tries to pretend he thinks I'm scum.
Priceless.
Not to mention the fact that he's completely ignoring any attempt at the meta case he pretends he has because he know it'd be shredded.
DRey's shamelessly sheeping Arcadic's misreps to death.
I think your reads are not bad at all. We agreed on Void, and I think you yourself are looking very much like town. It looks like we agree on DRey as well. Aside from that my own reads are terribly fuzzy because I've been away from this game to long, and will need to reread some 15+ pages to consider myself back in action. Wheat and Cyonis latest doesn't sit right with my gut, but that will have to be reconsidered after reread.
Will analyse the wagons now.
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I got the reaction I wanted. We were seriously wasting time with this question crap; he obviously can't ask anything we actually care about. If there is a SK, it will become blatantly obvious once the kills start racking up; worrying about it now accomplishes nothing.
Apparently searching for user "Charm" really doesn't do anything, so the votecounts selected might not show all players voting. I did see Wessel joining the Void wagon after the votecount, not that it matters much.
The easy analyze that even I can succeed in: Megiddo, Cyoni and Wheat_Grinder are on both wagons. None of them started the respective wagons, and none of them drove the cases openly.
I tried to search the thread to figure out who ever voted Ahlyis, and the only one I could find was DH. Apparently Ahlyis was the most obvious town ever. Cyoni did however ridicule his opinions somewhat, that caught my eye.
Megiddo: Early case refuted heavily, then disappeared from the game. Only makes small, commenting, uncontroversial posts after the case on him as blown over.
Wheat_Grinder: On both wagons, scummy latin-gambit which people apparently has forgotten about, plus I don't like how he has turned more agressive lately.
Cyoni: I know nothing about this guy except that he is regarded as one of the good, experienced players on here. I don't think his play has reflected that if he is town, he has however expressed that he is very certain of Void beeing scum.
All of theese three players I allready had on my scumdar (had kindof forgotten about Megiddo, but he never really fell off it), which makes me confident about reading them as scum.
I had a feeling about Infinis as well, but he wasn't on any of the wagons which is a point in his favor. Zajnet on the first, DRey very openly opposing the second. Might be to openly, but I'm not one to see through double/triple bluffs, and have a good feeling about him. Guardman was not on the Void wagon (or has he been and I've missed it?), but that might have been a ploy to gain his trust to get him to post the statements which Guardman proposed, which was all about neutrals. A lot of other players did this was well though. The rest of the wagons I believe to be filled with town and Seppel, which wasn't on the DH-wagon. That's rather strange, since he appears to be content with lynching anyone but himself and AI. Maybe he is not as bloodthirsty as he appears.
AI's daykill seems legitimately wraught out of frustration and tiredness of this long, exhausting day. He's pretty null to me.
I will be voting one of my three candidates shortly, awaiting Voids flip first since one cannot be 100% certain that he actually is town yet and we will have the confirmation soon. Haven't really decided which one of them to go for though.
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Mr Potato Head -
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1. Aud I am technically on Void's wagon. I just haven't voted for him since he is at L-2 and we still need his questions to be asked.
2. I was on DH's wagon as a policy lynch as he was blatantly trolling the thread.
3. I am mulling over how I feel about AI's "attempted daykill" on Void and Void's reaction.
Who the hell is gonna listen to me? Iso is always wrong and always scum, so there's no point, right?
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I'm not convinced that your Void gambit was clearing; I've seen scum say they're town after being lynched before too.
But I'm fine voting DRey anyway.
Unvote, Vote: DRey
:/
I totally forgot that Aud was doing the same play as DRey and Iso too, with "Void is town and I don't have a good reason why" comments. Funny, he's also on my scumlist. I thought there was someone else too, Arcadic maybe? Iso and DRey have been the most vocal about it. Also, this ties Aud to Iso even tighter than they already were (remember Iso votes Meg, Aud asks why, Iso says "read" and Aud says "OH! /barn").
Hmm, it would appear that I'm the exception to the rule? Except in my list of questions I support, I supported an SK question. Also, how do I not get bonus points for being the one to step in and suggest the SK question at the last minute when it looked like AI was killing void?
You've got a grudge against me, and just because I've caught you as scum here doesn't mean you should grudge me for the rest of your time alive.
You don't have like two words regarding Iso so far and suddenly you attack him once people are suggesting that both you and Iso are scum because you are both defending the same player without reason? I just find this bit suspicious.
Uh, I think you mean everyone should vote DRey with ME. I was first, you are following me now.
Also, I may have alluded to it earlier, but I thought the Daykill might have been a gambit from AI, seeing as how we've already had two daykillish abilities so far. Given that it was a gambit, Void's responses make him pretty town to me, most especially his quick response to use his questions. Whether the question was useful or not doesn't matter, but his mindset there is "Oh crap lets try and get some use out of this for the town before I die". Note that it was for the town because he suggested what question to ask to the town. Had he been scum, I believe he would have just asked whatever question he wanted to.
But yeah, vote DRey so we can lynch scum. Or Iso or Aud, but DRey's the closest we get to a sure thing scum lynch.
So care to answer that question? Or do you prefer to answer a question with a question again?
The goal is to lynch scum. The play is to scumhunt. In order for scum to scum hunt they need to smear to try and build a case.
Thinking Wessel or Infinis.
Whats the problem with DRey? Seems everyone has a problem with him coming in here throwing his weight around.
unvote
vote Wessel
Who carres to join me?
I take Voids reaction and replies to be genuine. Don't have a problem with AIs play. Don't see the both of them scum together as that would tie them and kill them.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
1: Blabla oldstuff.
2: I said maybe. And the maybe was because I did not take notice of you actually making the proposed statement, but summarising (am I using the wrong word here?) what the majority of the proposers proposed. Hence no bonus points.
3: No I don't, and how the hell does that post suggest it? I'm befuddled. If anyone carries a grudge it's obviously you.
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I was on the DH wagon, right before kpaca on the end.
FNM time.
12-11? I'm losing track
Already there, buddy.
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Unvote, Vote Wessel
Let's do this!
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Someone, in a 250 words or less explain to me what has happened since I left. Ive read it all but too damn tired to try and analyze it.
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Stuff.
Is that sufficient?
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Ahylis was killed off.
DRey has been throwing his weight around NOT to lynch Void.
Void asked questions we really didn't get any information from.
Multiple wagons are forming NOT around Void because AI pretended to DayVig him and his reaction was townish.
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But yeah, Arn covered it pretty well. And I've still named at least 3 scum already. You should jump on the Wessel wagon with AE and me!
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vote Megiddo
I'm very sorry for not being commuted to the game. It seems like every time I look at this thread there's a huge wall of text tor me to read and analyze and there is basically more fun stuff for me to do than do this. Help?
You've lost touch with the game. Vote Wessel
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Not much for reasons. In fact you seem more convinced that tordeck is scum than Megiddo.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
@Wessel: When you say AE is attacking you without evidence, are you discounting the case he had on you earlier?
Lets start with this one here. Everything else later today if I get the time.
Your twisting what I said to try and show me in a scummy light. Your implying that I could care less what we say to the mod.
Arcadic wanted to know if it would be better IF we got a reply from the mod. It does not matter. The statement we would be saying we already know to be true or false, whichever way we phrase it. So if we get a reply it tells us something. If we don't get a reply it tells us something. Two sides of the same coin here. So for you to try and use this to push for my lynch is ubber scummy.
So tell me. Does it matter if we say, the name of the game is ... Or the name of the game isn't...
They hate us cause they ain't us.
I have. Where were you?
You're just going to vote everyone who thinks you're scum, aren't you?
Yes.
...oh, seems I already have.
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Disagree that AI's false daykill cleared Void. Chance of it being fake was too high. Will elaborate later. Also will need to read his reactions very carefully, but I doubt it'll change my mind.
Audinho's last post was town-motivated. Enough so that it's very unlikely he's scum. (This is also a note for a previous post he made, one responding to a question I asked.)
Um, you? Show me where I twisted anything.
IT WOULD SHOW IF HE WAS ANSWERING TRUTHFULLY!!!
Wow. What are you doing? No answer from the mod is the same as an answer from the mod depending how we phrase the statement.
Your trying hard I'll give you that.
It has nothing to do with Void. It has to do with knowing the replies we're getting are truthful. Stating something we know will prove that.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
As to who I feel most confident lynching right now, gotta go with Meg. He's scum.
Vote Meg
While you did respond, the response was lackluster. You said you were watching Void and trying to solidify a read on him. I read that as watching reactions to him to decide whether or not to jump on the wagon. Plus, you've been sitting in the backseat, pushing mildly on stuff at best, and it just doesn't sit right with me.
Because I believe Void is town. Where were you? As in, why aren't you aware that I addressed that already?
Just a strange coincidence, then, that you think everyone who attacks you is scum.
Part of the reason. Pay. Attention. Seriously, does everyone just skim my posts?
This, I do agree with. But I thought Void was town before the Fakekill, so.
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I know you said you would elaborate later, but are you postulating that AI and Void are in cahoots?
I'd still like to see DRey lynched today, and I am very doubtful that I could be convinced to lynch anyone else.
No. That would be terribly unlikely. That would require Void, AI, and Seppel to all be scum.
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Anyways, I'm of the belief that Void figured it wasn't a real daykill and decided to take advantage of it. If it was fake, then he gained the possibility of not being lynched. If not, he was dead anyways, so no loss there.
This seems so far from his previous reaction that it's unnatural. It's gone from "I have no reason to think this is false" to a completely joking tone - "Could you warn a guy next time", especially paired with that emoticon, is about as far from "I think I've just been daykilled" as one can get.
It then goes onto his scum team list:
He's pretty much been completely silent on everyone except Seppel (who he's, amusingly, comparing to when Seppel was town while trying to argue Seppel's scum) for the last few hundred posts. Nothing's changed.
And his thoughts on AI. Note how AI isn't on his scum-team list. Yet he's also arguing that AI is scum.
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It's likely that Void figured out the daykill was fake - it came from the wrong person.
If the daykill was real, then AI (and therefore probably Seppel) would probably be lying, and therefore likely scum - it makes little sense for the daykill to be something AI had before he "linked" with Seppel. If he knew, however, that AI wasn't scum, then he could simply extrapolate that AI was probably telling the truth about his interaction with Seppel, and therefore there was actually no daykill. It's something that'd be put down to a gut read, but that's the line of logic behind it. If AI is assumed to be town, then a daykill at this point from him is highly unlikely.
Void's flippant tone while being daykilled and very...uninformative scum list, together with having to be pressed to provide it, make it likely he noticed that.
Side-note: Audinho looks completely clueless, but he's trying. If he's scum, then he's doing a perfect impression of clueless town, one that also meshes perfectly with what he said before. I could do a line-by-line description of Audinho's mindset, but I'm far too lazy and there's no point.
Also, he's picked up DRey's habit of being able to spell usernames correctly, but that's just me being picky.
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While I'm on that point, I note that DRey is still trying to get away from making that meta case on me. I'm waiting, and getting terribly bored doing so.
I really would not mind voting DRey, but I cannot get over the fact that he's willing to see himself dead to keep Void alive. Even if we assume Void is town, no scum would do that for a town. Scum trying to keep their more powerful member alive is far more likely, and so I'd like to see Void dead before DRey.