Sunforger with overload

EighNullSects · 10-05-2012, 02:21 PM

pretty self-explanatory, can I overload spells I get with sunforger? Thanks everybody!!!

Segoth · 10-05-2012, 02:31 PM

Sunforger

No, because sunforger has you cast the spell without paying it's mana cost. That is an alternative casting cost, the same as overload. Since only one alternative casting cost can be used to cast a spell you would be unable to use overload.

bimmerbot · 10-05-2012, 02:31 PM

Sunforger
Mizzium Mortars

No. Sunforger tells you to cast it for the alternate cost of "without paying its mana cost" so you can't choose to pay a different alternate cost for Overload.

Studoku · 10-05-2012, 02:36 PM

No. You cannot cast a spell with two alternate costs- which both Sunforger's 'without paying its mana cost' and overload are. You will have to cast the spell normally.

10-05-2012, 02:21 PM	#1
EighNullSects Experienced Mage Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Missoula, MT Posts: 127	Sunforger with overload pretty self-explanatory, can I overload spells I get with sunforger? Thanks everybody!!!
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10-05-2012, 02:31 PM	#2
Segoth Archmage Overlord Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Rockford, IL. Posts: 1,683	Sunforger No, because sunforger has you cast the spell without paying it's mana cost. That is an alternative casting cost, the same as overload. Since only one alternative casting cost can be used to cast a spell you would be unable to use overload. __________________ DCI Level 2 Judge
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bimmerbot Resident Planeswalker Rules Guru Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 3,040 Blog Entries: 1	Sunforger Mizzium Mortars No. Sunforger tells you to cast it for the alternate cost of "without paying its mana cost" so you can't choose to pay a different alternate cost for Overload. __________________ Level 2 Judge This FAQ answers about 90% of the questions asked in the MTGS Rulings forum. Take a look! I'm the editor/content manager of the Magic Rules Tips Blog - Bookmark this site for daily tips about game and tournament rules. Abstract concepts of perfect judging run headlong into the realities of how people play the game. - Toby Elliott (papa funk) My Type 4 Stack -- DCI Documents -- Comp Rules
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10-05-2012, 02:36 PM	#4
Studoku Archmage Overlord Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Lancaster, UK Posts: 1,217	No. You cannot cast a spell with two alternate costs- which both Sunforger's 'without paying its mana cost' and overload are. You will have to cast the spell normally.
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