Pro Tour RTR Modern Decklists - all decks 18 points or better at PTRTR - Page 2

Lectrys · 10-22-2012, 09:13 PM

Yeah, the thing you're overlooking is that none of the Tron decks seem to have any Tron lands in them.

There are also lots of Jund decks with fewer than 60 cards, and I suspect more than half the sideboards have less than 15 cards in them.

BlippyTheSlug · 10-22-2012, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lectrys

Yeah, the thing you're overlooking is that none of the Tron decks seem to have any Tron lands in them.

There are also lots of Jund decks with fewer than 60 cards, and I suspect more than half the sideboards have less than 15 cards in them.

Yeah, after looking through it some more, it seems like a good chunk of it is misinformation, errors, and gibberish.

This is typical of how they're handling event results lately. Like all those missing event results from MTGO. I'm starting to get real bad taste in my mouth over this. Blarg. Can't say what I want to say 'cuz it'll earn me a suspension. But you can guess what wants to spew out of my potty mouth.

Chromatone · 10-22-2012, 09:24 PM

Well have you tried to bring this to their attention? Seems really baaad as they were touting how you could just click on the pro tour decks and play them. Some one is simply not doing their job properly, or it has something to do with new client beta.

BlippyTheSlug · 10-22-2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromatone

Well have you tried to bring this to their attention? Seems really baaad as they were touting how you could just click on the pro tour decks and play them. Some one is simply not doing their job properly, or it has something to do with new client beta.

Just did.
http://community.wizards.com/go/thre...ou,_WotC_Grrrr.....
This smacks of conspiracy to me, with the missing events on MTGO, that they're purposefully muddying meta info.

mozerdozer · 10-23-2012, 12:22 AM

All cards missing are ones with apostrophes, just something I've noticed. This means Junds decks with missing cards likely had finks in some number. I have no clue what the Pod and WW lists are missing. Eggs is missing Faith's Reward and Conjurer's Bauble.

Lectrys · 10-23-2012, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mozerdozer

All cards missing are ones with apostrophes, just something I've noticed. This means Junds decks with missing cards likely had finks in some number. I have no clue what the Pod and WW lists are missing. Eggs is missing Faith's Reward and Conjurer's Bauble.

...Or Geralf's Messengers, based on some of the mana bases. Actually, perhaps all of the mana bases.

VideSupra · 10-23-2012, 09:38 AM

Yeah, lots of database errors. Nice catch noting it was apostraphes that might be causing it - that addresses all the Urza errors.

That said, the Urza lands showed up in some mono-red lists, so maybe its more problematic an just apostrophes.

Mr. Monopoly · 10-23-2012, 09:44 AM

Why is there Tron pieces in the first Rb decklist?

edit: nevermind

Kirblar · 10-23-2012, 10:07 AM

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This suggests that the following decks are performing poorly : UWR Delver, Kiki-Jiki Pod, UW Control, Tron.

And that the following decks performed better than expected : Infect, Eggs, Storm

U/W Resto has underperformed at every major Modern tournament since Resoration Angel hit the scene. I'm baffled as to why people keep playing it.

BlippyTheSlug · 10-23-2012, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirblar

U/W Resto has underperformed at every major Modern tournament since Resoration Angel hit the scene. I'm baffled as to why people keep playing it.

At a guess, I'd say because: It's UW, it's gotta be good! And it does pull in the occasional win to keep the people that think that hopes going.

And to be fair, it does pull in 3-1's and 4-0's in the daily SEs.

Tron has also been consistently shown to perform at T1.5, bordering on T2, levels, yet people continue to play that, as well. But there, I can see it cuz it's very budget-friendly (except for Karn).

Lectrys · 10-23-2012, 10:56 PM

At least Wizards is apologizing, according to here.

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Originally Posted by Wizards

We apologize for the missing cards in many of these decks. In our urgency to post the lists after the Pro Tour, we didn't notice a technical error in our deck entry tool. We will attempt to complete as many lists as possible over the coming days.

The Rakdos Deck Wins list at the top no longer has Urza lands, but Patrick Chapin still has only 57 cards in his maindeck, and Stephen Berrios still has zero Tron lands in his Tron deck.

resum · 10-24-2012, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirblar

U/W Resto has underperformed at every major Modern tournament since Resoration Angel hit the scene. I'm baffled as to why people keep playing it.

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazin...etypeBreakdown

Deck had the second highest win% of all decks above 100 matches, 6th above 50. It had a higher win% than Storm, Jund, Pod, UWR Delver, and GU scapeshift (?). Those were the major archetypes that had 100+ matches.

arenavirus · 10-24-2012, 05:57 AM

So much jund. Would have like to have seen more variety like living end or reanimator.

Razorgore · 10-24-2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by arenavirus

So much jund. Would have like to have seen more variety like living end or reanimator.

Deathrite shaman, bro.

raygun · 10-25-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by arenavirus

So much jund. Would have like to have seen more variety like living end or reanimator.

Living End and Reanimator are both completely terrible in this format. Neither of them are decks. Don't expect them to succeed anytime soon.

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VideSupra Ascended Mage Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 398	Yeah, lots of database errors. Nice catch noting it was apostraphes that might be causing it - that addresses all the Urza errors. That said, the Urza lands showed up in some mono-red lists, so maybe its more problematic an just apostrophes. __________________ Currently Playing Modern RG Tron American Midrange Affinity EDH Uril, the Miststalker Wrexial, the Risen Deep Wort, Boggart Auntie Crovax, Ascendant Hero
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Mr. Monopoly Common Mage Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 47	Why is there Tron pieces in the first Rb decklist? edit: nevermind Last edited by Mr. Monopoly; 10-23-2012 at 09:49 AM.
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arenavirus Experienced Mage Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 54	So much jund. Would have like to have seen more variety like living end or reanimator. __________________ Trade thread-->http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=438366 Decks Legacy Reanimator Modern Melira PodTRONLiving EndAffinity/Robots Standard Miracles EDH Mayael
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10-22-2012, 09:13 PM	#16
Lectrys Everything is I-O-K Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 5,055	Yeah, the thing you're overlooking is that none of the Tron decks seem to have any Tron lands in them. There are also lots of Jund decks with fewer than 60 cards, and I suspect more than half the sideboards have less than 15 cards in them.
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Chromatone Archmage Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 809	Well have you tried to bring this to their attention? Seems really baaad as they were touting how you could just click on the pro tour decks and play them. Some one is simply not doing their job properly, or it has something to do with new client beta.
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mozerdozer Ascended Mage Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 473	All cards missing are ones with apostrophes, just something I've noticed. This means Junds decks with missing cards likely had finks in some number. I have no clue what the Pod and WW lists are missing. Eggs is missing Faith's Reward and Conjurer's Bauble.
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