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Old 12-08-2012, 04:51 AM   #31
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Covert Level. The Dimir are a network of agents, spies, assassins, and mind mages. The covert level of House Dimir uses secret symbols, runes, and signals to communicate, often in plain sight. Covert Dimir also employ various mysterious forms of mind magic, such as telepathic communiqués that are erased from memory as soon as the operation is completed.
Seems a lot like "men in black" , with the mind eraser thing.
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Old 12-08-2012, 07:11 PM   #32
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people that keep complaining about these products seem to forget about new players, kitchen sink players, younger kids and just overall casual players that might benefit or have fun from cracking open packs, putting messy fun decks together and overall not spazzing all over meta just to enjoy some MTG...

Battle packs are just fine. get down for the high horses will ya
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:06 PM   #33
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This art looks like one of those red clash cards to me. I really hope I'm wrong. Limited fight mechanic fodder? Lol
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:00 AM   #34
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The value is there in this product. I wish they would have more uncommons like 3 or 4 but all in all they are not bad. I might pick one up maybe.
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The value is there in this product. I wish they would have more uncommons like 3 or 4 but all in all they are not bad. I might pick one up maybe.
Are these somehow cheaper than just buying a bunch of booster packs? If not then I highly doubt it has value . WTC tends to not put anything chase in intro packs or products like these imo.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:01 AM   #36
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Are these somehow cheaper than just buying a bunch of booster packs? If not then I highly doubt it has value . WTC tends to not put anything chase in intro packs or products like these imo.
I've opened shocklands in the RTR booster battle pack and Jace in one of the boosters from an intro pack.

All sealed product with boosters are just as random as a booster box I'm sure (probably moreso, actually).

The battlepacks are a great value for new players and a good way to kill some time if you don't have time to draft or make a sealed deck. If you're strictly looking for rares, buying packs is better.
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The half-masks on Dimir assassins seem like a major style guide feature, and the figure in this art has one. Seems pretty likely to be Dimir.

This is almost certainly NOT from a creature card. It's very rare for the art on creature cards to depict the creature in combat with something else. Action poses implying combat are common, but the opponent is almost never depicted (and on the rare cases they are, they're a minor part of the composition and it's extremely obvious who's winning).

Not only are the two characters in this art about equally prominent, there's at least a little ambiguity about who's going to win the fight. It's a very safe bet that this is from a non-creature.
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The half-masks on Dimir assassins seem like a major style guide feature, and the figure in this art has one. Seems pretty likely to be Dimir.

This is almost certainly NOT from a creature card. It's very rare for the art on creature cards to depict the creature in combat with something else. Action poses implying combat are common, but the opponent is almost never depicted (and on the rare cases they are, they're a minor part of the composition and it's extremely obvious who's winning).

Not only are the two characters in this art about equally prominent, there's at least a little ambiguity about who's going to win the fight. It's a very safe bet that this is from a non-creature.
Yeah looks like a sorcery to me.
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Not only are the two characters in this art about equally prominent, there's at least a little ambiguity about who's going to win the fight. It's a very safe bet that this is from a non-creature.
The Dimir chick is standing on the soldiers leg with momentum to strike. Have you forgotten how badass characters stand on opponents weapons to mock their weak attempts to fight back? Assassin +1.
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The Dimir chick is standing on the soilders leg with momentum to strike. Have you forgotten how badass characters stand on oppenents weapons to mock their weak attempts to fight back? Assassin +1.
Boros sorcery, that makes creatures fight?
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The Dimir chick is standing on the soilders leg with momentum to strike. Have you forgotten how badass characters stand on oppenents weapons to mock their weak attempts to fight back? Assassin +1.
Yeah, the assassin looks like they have the upper hand to me too.

I'm still certain it's not a creature spell. Go on to Gatherer or Magiccards.info and look at all the creatures in a recent set. What you'll notice:

- The vast majority depict exactly one character: the creature itself (or creatures if it's a plural name).
- A fair number have some other background figures, but still don't show any opponents fighting the main creature.
- A very small number have some small opponents/prey to emphasize the size or dynamism of the creature, but even then, the "opponents" are much smaller and are less "fighting" than "being destroyed/eaten." (See Armada Wurm, Tyrant of Discord, or Trestle Troll)
- Very rarely, like maybe once per set, you see creature art that shows the creature defeating a similarly-sized opponent. See Ash Zealot or Holy Justiciar for (I think) the only examples from RTR and AVR respectively. Even then, the opponent is at the edge of the frame, lit less well than the central figure, and cringing/cowering in total defeat. If one of these creatures was the very first Magic card you ever picked up, you would still have no doubt whatsoever about which creature in the art is the one represented by the card, and that the named creature is utterly kicking ass.

Looking at the Dimir/Boros art with that in mind, it's clear that this is FAR outside the norm for creature art, and it's almost certainly a sorcery or enchantment or something.
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The art looks like a standard kill spell
If I had to guess it would probably mirror Ultimate Price in every way except hit multicolor creatures because that guy is obviously Boros.
On the topic of pack wars, there is the same value as buying boosters (not much). You can get a playable uncommon, like a charm or something along those lines.
They are really fun though, really fun.
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The art looks like a standard kill spell
If I had to guess it would probably mirror Ultimate Price in every way except hit multicolor creatures because that guy is obviously Boros.
That actually makes a lot of sense. The flavor of the black guilds sending out their assassins for these bread and butter kill cards would be sweet.
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That chick looks Orzhov. Her armor doesn't look Dimir or Rakdos.

You can see that her armor doesn't match the Rakdos theme here: http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazin...y/feature/214a

While the new Orzhov theme does have gold, it is downplayed here because she is an assassin.
Definitely Dimir. Orzhov is not quite so sneaky about these things. They would hire a Dimir assassin more likely.
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I have not noticed this artwork on any cards. I'm I missing something?
Is this just for the battle packs?
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