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Old 01-01-2013, 04:36 PM   #346
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Eh, I think I'd rather have Blustersquall than Gridlock.
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Old 01-01-2013, 04:49 PM   #347
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I love Murder Investigation. I think it would be more interesting design if you could use it on your opponents creatures though. Turn 2 Murder Investigation on their creature, turn 4 wait for sweep.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:50 PM   #348
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Yeah, she's pretty disappointing, especially when compared to the previous Orzhov angel.
if they give her deathtouch she would be better
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Old 01-01-2013, 11:15 PM   #349
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I totally love both the Shade and the Emissary!!!!
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Old 01-02-2013, 02:00 AM   #350
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Eh, I think I'd rather have Blustersquall than Gridlock.
+1 here, anytime for me too.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:27 AM   #351
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Gridlock is only slightly weaker than Gigadrowse simply since you can replicate in response to a counterspell. Gigadrowse is a 9/10. Gridlock is an 8.5/10
Errr...
no, you cannot replicate Gigadrowse in response to a counterspell...

the only chance you have to replicate something is as soon as you cast it.
Replicate triggers when you cast the spell, it's not an activated ability available all the time that spell is on the stack.

Gigadrowse is stronger in monoblue decks as it will tap one more permanent.
And probably weaker anywhere else (if your opponent is not playing a heavy counterspell deck).
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:06 AM   #352
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Here's a quick stab at what I thought she could have been...let me know what you guys think.

Deathtouch is kind of redunant on something with a huge body. I'd replace it with lifelink.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:19 AM   #353
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The Emissary opens up all sorts of play lines. Magical xmas time -

T1: Stomping Grounds -> Arbor Elf
T2: Land -> Emissary -> Wild Beastmaster
T3: Bloodrush Zhur-Taa Swine to WB, swing for 21

Other T2 emissary plays - Strangleroot/Ash Zealot + Rancor, Domri Rade

^nm, misread the Bloodrush ability of Swine. I don't think it would work...still, a T2 Beastmaster in a world of playable Hasted creatures + Rancor seems awfully powerful.

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Old 01-02-2013, 11:54 AM   #354
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How would that work? -1 turns Artifact into 5/5, not Planeswalkers. It might work on a Staff of Nin, or some such though. Maybe Gideon when he is in creature form.
he said "liquimetal coating or something" which does it wow, I really want to just use copy artifact on the bracers, equip them all to to the tezzeret (he can make the combo work alone: find the artifacts, make himself a 5/5) and just play his ultimate for 6 times the number of artifacts you control
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:58 AM   #355
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The Emissary opens up all sorts of play lines. Magical xmas time -

T1: Stomping Grounds -> Arbor Elf
T2: Land -> Emissary -> Wild Beastmaster
T3: Bloodrush Zhur-Taa Swine to WB, swing for 21

Other T2 emissary plays - Strangleroot/Ash Zealot + Rancor, Domri Rade

^nm, misread the Bloodrush ability of Swine. I don't think it would work...still, a T2 Beastmaster in a world of playable Hasted creatures + Rancor seems awfully powerful.
It would work. Since Wild Beastmaster's ability check her power on resolution.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:16 PM   #356
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The Emissary will see play in Legacy.

T1: Fetch into Savannah, Green Sun Zenith into Dryad Arbor

T2: Plateau, Emissary, Tarmogoyf, Wild Nacatl

This is possible.
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Old 01-02-2013, 02:14 PM   #357
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The emissary makes the human reanimator in standard much better. You use the innistrad block way of winning (aristocrat + fiend hunter + angel) but now all the pieces are human!

Angel of Glory's Rise, Burning Tree Emissary, Fiend Hunter, Disciple of Griselbrand

- gives you infinite life, and with a goldnight commander, pumps either the disciple or commander to infinite.
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Old 01-02-2013, 02:31 PM   #358
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I just realized something!

Look at the art for Drakewing Krasis.

Now look at the art for Skyline Predator.

It looks like the Simic of today improved the Ravnican Drake in the same way that the Simic of the original Ravnica improved the Sky Swallower!
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Old 01-03-2013, 02:45 AM   #359
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i think u can't
to simplify this
bracer on elf = 2x untap target forest = 2 mana
galvanic alchemist = 2U = 3 mana

that means you still have 1 deficit mana

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what you can do is
Captain of the Mists with Bracers + Gilded Lotus = Infinite Mana

Tap Gilded Lotus gain 3 mana > Tap Captain and pay 1U > Untap Captain and Gilded Lotus > back to step 1
I think the combo will work, you seem to be forgetting that you can untap the elf twice, making 4 mana
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:39 AM   #360
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Deathpact Angel: Really sweet card so far my favorite of the set. That being said it doesn't seem all that great but might be slightly playable as a trump similar to AoS though AoS is likely just better if slightly more expensive.

Bracers: These things seem just really sweet even if their just giving marginal value from from geist triggers. Look forward to seeing decks built around this.

Other than that the rest of the cards seem kinda meh (which is ok).
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