League of Legends Season III

[BbearZ]

Originally Posted by TheEndIsNear

Nope, GP would have healing done I think with his oranges. And I don't see a GP not dying much with that build.

Oh I was so blind to that. So you don't take smite, jungle with adc build. Shaco?

[TheEndIsNear]

Originally Posted by BbearZ

Oh I was so blind to that. So you don't take smite, jungle with adc build. Shaco?

Ding ding ding, yup

God I love shaco

Every game I get the "Take smite! Jungle without smite sucks."

Then I see the other team take dragon, Q over wall, R double kill and dragon

I wouldn't play him if I played ranked though.

[BbearZ]

Originally Posted by TheEndIsNear

Ding ding ding, yup

God I love shaco

Every game I get the "Take smite! Jungle without smite sucks."

Then I see the other team take dragon, Q over wall, R double kill and dragon

I wouldn't play him if I played ranked though.

He's pretty terror in any elo. A match up where you hope to make it to late game and for the enemy shaco to suck.

[Catmurderer]

Anyone tried Zed jungle? Koreans love it. Saint tried it, and its fast as hell.

[TheEndIsNear]

Originally Posted by BbearZ

He's pretty terror in any elo. A match up where you hope to make it to late game and for the enemy shaco to suck.

Ah, I thought he wasn't very liked.

Last game had tons of "I escaped!" "Nope."

I made their Jayce die at spawn ;P He was right about to B and I Q AA from over a wall and the damage showed up once he was at spawn.

Q + backstab +IE + runes + Masteries = Insta 1k+ crits.

[Pheon]

I hate playing ranked, every single game I play the best I can, obliterate my lane, and still lose due to trolls and afk'ers. What makes it worse is I lose like 30-40 elo with each loss and only get 15-20 per win. Is there any justice in this world?

On another note, just played my first game as Nidalee(In ranked, my team loved hearing that). I crushed Riven top, even though the enemy jungle/mid lane camped me the whole game. Nid's a ton of fun, it's so easy to avoid ganks/disengage a fight with her, and her damage is deceptively good, even when going full tank. Went 7/2/13 with her, even doubled Riven's cs.

To all those Riven/Nid players out there: How's the matchup supposed to go? I felt like Riven should have the advantage, seeing as she can close the gap quickly and out dps me. But I guess ranged harass is just too annoying for Riven.

Originally Posted by Catmurderer

Anyone tried Zed jungle? Koreans love it. Saint tried it, and its fast as hell.

His early clear is pretty terror, but other than that he's fine. Assassins are pretty strong right now, so people are trying them out everywhere.

Originally Posted by TheEndIsNear

Ah, I thought he wasn't very liked.

He isn't.

****ing clowns.

[Drawmeomg]

My solo queue Elo is pretty low because I'm a role specialist (ADC) due to prioritizing my ranked teams over solo queue, so my non-ADC games are pretty rough... Absolutely amazing how few solo queue lower Elo ADCs know how to carry a game. As ADC I get beaten in lane by a little bit every few games, but without fail the players who beat me in lane don't know how to turn a few kills and a lot of CS into a game win.

Winning lane and carrying game are two totally different skills. You need to be good at both. There are uncarryable games, but not nearly as many as you might think, as long as you get your farm. Winning your lane doesn't mean you're going to be more valuable than the other guy later on if you don't know how to press the advantage.

[areostatico]

Originally Posted by Drawmeomg

Absolutely amazing how few solo queue lower Elo ADCs know how to carry a game.

They're low Elo for a reason

[Drawmeomg]

Originally Posted by areostatico

They're low Elo for a reason

Yet for some reason people still consistently think they're low Elo because they have bad luck.

If you can't raise your Elo at least into the 1500/1600 range, there's some problem with your gameplay. In my case, I'd fit in that range - barely - as an ADC, but I'm nowhere close to that at my other roles. That's the problem with my gameplay; I'm hard to fit into a team because when I don't get a particular role, I'm just not very good, and if you get me with someone else who has called ADC (or a duo queue bot lane), I put my team at a severe disadvantage. I'm working on it, but I don't have a ton of time and there are four roles to learn.

If you always win your lane by a lot, there's still something wrong with your game - probably something to do with teamwork, morale, your champion selection (you're picking lane stompers who can't carry), or your skills at carrying the mid/late game, or you just haven't played enough for the good teams and bad teams to average out (everyone gets runs of bad luck in their teams, but if you play the game consistently, it'll average out with runs of good luck as well).

[areostatico]

Originally Posted by Drawmeomg

Yet for some reason people still consistently think they're low Elo because they have bad luck.

If you can't raise your Elo at least into the 1500/1600 range, there's some problem with your gameplay. In my case, I'd fit in that range - barely - as an ADC, but I'm nowhere close to that at my other roles. That's the problem with my gameplay; I'm hard to fit into a team because when I don't get a particular role, I'm just not very good, and if you get me with someone else who has called ADC (or a duo queue bot lane), I put my team at a severe disadvantage. I'm working on it, but I don't have a ton of time and there are four roles to learn.

If you always win your lane by a lot, there's still something wrong with your game - probably something to do with teamwork, morale, your champion selection (you're picking lane stompers who can't carry), or your skills at carrying the mid/late game, or you just haven't played enough for the good teams and bad teams to average out (everyone gets runs of bad luck in their teams, but if you play the game consistently, it'll average out with runs of good luck as well).

I too ascribe to this (bad luck my sweet patootie), but I think the threshold is much higher than 1500-1600. Somewhere in the Plat range is more like it, IMO.

Right now I'm at 1510, and I have no illusion that I'm here because of anything other than my poor play. If I play better and rage less, I will rise in Elo. It's that simple to me.

[Raver]

Originally Posted by Drawmeomg

Yet for some reason people still consistently think they're low Elo because they have bad luck.

If you can't raise your Elo at least into the 1500/1600 range, there's some problem with your gameplay. In my case, I'd fit in that range - barely - as an ADC, but I'm nowhere close to that at my other roles. That's the problem with my gameplay; I'm hard to fit into a team because when I don't get a particular role, I'm just not very good, and if you get me with someone else who has called ADC (or a duo queue bot lane), I put my team at a severe disadvantage. I'm working on it, but I don't have a ton of time and there are four roles to learn.

If you always win your lane by a lot, there's still something wrong with your game - probably something to do with teamwork, morale, your champion selection (you're picking lane stompers who can't carry), or your skills at carrying the mid/late game, or you just haven't played enough for the good teams and bad teams to average out (everyone gets runs of bad luck in their teams, but if you play the game consistently, it'll average out with runs of good luck as well).

I've actually tested this myself, I've played solo queue at the 1400-1500 elo but duo queued at the 1600-1700 elo in the same time span of a day or two. In the 1400-1500 elo, there are more "trolls" if you will; the leavers, complainers, harassers, non-cooperative lot. But in the 1600-1700 elo, you don't get that as much and i've managed to keep up just fine with them.

Perhaps it's bad luck that almost every game I get at the 1400-1500 level, I either get placed with a guy that can't carry, a complainer, people fighting for roles or people that do stupid things.

[DivineChaos]

On Shaco: He's a very weird champ because unless your top picks a tank, you have a squishy team and he kinda puts a time limit on winning

On Elo trolls: 1200 is universally accepted as the worst followed by like 1600. Everyone at 1600 is a "platinum smurf" at whatever role they are trying to get and you "don't want to win" if you pick that role.

On low elo AD carries: Sometimes it's not the AD carries fault that he can't carry his team. Team feed, team doesn't peel, team actively kicks the enemy onto you, bad team comp, ect. I've gone from 9/2 to 11/7 with the "help" of my team. I know I have holes in my game, but there is only some much that you can do as the ad carry. Fed or not. One of my biggest flaws is, I'm not sure how to win a game if the other team has a hard initiate and my team doesn't. I don't always have the strongest farm. I've carried myself to 1400s and trust me, it's not always the AD carries fault that he can't do his job. Especially if you aren't an AD carry with an escape. The 4 people on your team are also at your elo for a reason, and if you are trying to steer them and they won't listen then is that really you?

[TheEndIsNear]

I have problems with these champs: (in this order)

Darius/Kat
Jax/Rengar/Diana

I can't seem to win any game where the other team has one of those. The top 2 I've just found that whoever has them wins. We were in champ select in my last game and someone picks Kat I'm like GG. We win unless someone on the other team has Darius. They got a darius, our kat left, Darius went 1/3 -> 9/5.

I mostly play Shaco Morde and Fizz (Jungle and Mid mostly), there are tons of champs I like, but almost all are Mid and Jungle.

[BbearZ]

Originally Posted by Drawmeomg

If you always win your lane by a lot, there's still something wrong with your game - probably something to do with teamwork, morale, your champion selection (you're picking lane stompers who can't carry), or your skills at carrying the mid/late game, or you just haven't played enough for the good teams and bad teams to average out (everyone gets runs of bad luck in their teams, but if you play the game consistently, it'll average out with runs of good luck as well).

This. You don't actually need to be all that good to get to 1600+ elo but you need the mindset. Let things go. It's hard for me. I spend too much time picking out how poorly someone has done and it has lost me my share of games. I rarely lose lane but I lose the game because I am just so blind sometimes.

[TheEndIsNear]

I love you Shaco, you aren't very forgiving when facechecking/getting jukedkilled but 31/7 is most kills I think I've ever gotten with you.

Full build for first time. 22.5k gold in 50 minutes. Freefarming Nasus+Elise are the end of you though.