[SCD] Lake of the Dead

[simpygdog]

I dont think this card is butt...

BUT, its not the best black land there is and I only support 1 or 2 lands per color. Volrath's stronghold is too strong not to take the spot and I personally love Urborg as a second choice, though im close to cutting it, because it lets blacks heavy mana investments not be a problem. Urborg in a black deck has a 100% include rate in my group, i'd imagine anyone would put it in a nonmonoblack deck and it isnt strictly worse then a swamp in a monoblack deck. After that there is the famous cabal coffers Which can provide a mana accel late game without the land sacrfiice, but forces monoblack, or including urborg in your deck.

Edit: just to be clear in a monoblack deck you will love that your stripmines can tap for B every once in a while.

[Blimpy]

I wouldn't play this in a cube size less than 720. The only way I would play it in a 720+ card list is if I were heavily supporting monoblack as a strategy.

[JinxedIdol]

I think the Shadowmoor/Eventide filter lands do a fine job in supporting heavy black by providing .

While I am a fan of this card, I think it is also too fragile to any land destruction or bounce effects.

[Trunkers]

Originally Posted by wtwlf123

I think this card is butt, and I wouldn't cube it at any size. Even if mono/heavy black is pushed to the extreme, this is still like the 4th or 5th best black-based land ...which is just so far down from playability.

Out of curiosity, what do you have above this in black? I think I currently have it as 4th:

Volrath's Stronghold
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Cabal Pit
Lake of the Dead

[wtwlf123]

I'd play Phyrexian Tower and Cabal Coffers over it too. And maybe Tomb of Urami. Which is to say, I'd never cube it.

[Trunkers]

Originally Posted by wtwlf123

I'd play Phyrexian Tower and Cabal Coffers over it too. And maybe Tomb of Urami. Which is to say, I'd never cube it.

Well, not in a regular cube at least. For my cube I am working on a supplemental land stack to be partially rotisserie drafted after the normal draft (will explain later). Mostly random utility lands. Anyways, I have 4 monocolor utility lands (not counting cycling lands and artifact lands) for each color except Black and Red, and am looking for a fourth.

I really don't like Cabal Coffers, as it is useless even in a mono-black deck before Turn 5 (assuming no Urborg), and I don't think anyone would ever pick the Tomb. I guess that leaves Phyrexian Tower as the alternative. I guess the Tower looks more attractive. Haven't played with either though, so it's just conjecture on my end.

[wtwlf123]

Tower's a pretty solid land. I prefer it to the other options.