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Old 01-08-2008, 09:37 AM   #1
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Default [MOR] A couple of commons & uncommons {RUMOURED!!}

Kithkin Zephyrnaut -
Creature – Kithkin Soldier
Kinship – At the beginning of your upkeep, you may look at the top card of your library. If it shares a creature type with Kithkin Zephyrnaut you may reveal it. If you do, Kithkin Zephyrnaut gets +2/+2 and gains flying and vigilance until end of turn.
2/2
Common

I guess this is quite a very solid common in limited. Doubt it’ll make it into kithkin (block) decks though.
ALSO: Runed Stalactite on a creature with kinship is good fun!


Order of the Golden Cricket -
Creature – Kithkin Knight
Whenever Order of the Golden Cricket attacks, you may pay . If you do, it gains flying until end of turn.
2/2
Common

Also a very decent card in limited.


Waterspout Weavers -
Creature – Merfolk Wizard
Kinship - At the beginning of your upkeep, you may look at the top card of your library. If it shares a creature type with Waterspout Weavers you may reveal it. If you do, each creature you control gains flying until end of turn.
3/3
Uncommon

5 mana for a 3/3 dude that might be able to put your whole squad into air? Might be playable in limited, but not a very good card in my opinion... Especially at uncommon, you’d expect something a little bit more exciting!


Pack’s Disdain -
Instant
Choose a creature type.
Target creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn for each permanent of the chosen type you control.
Common

Similar to Coordinated Barrage; guess this is quite a decent removal spell in limited, but nothing more than that. It's definitely not a Darkblast though!


Brighthearth Banneret -
Creature – Elemental Warrior
Elemental spells and Warrior spells you play cost less to play.
Reinforce 1 –
1/1
Common

So we’ve got the fourth Banneret now. Interesting that it has reinforce! Decent in the beginning to make your spells cheaper and nice late game to boost a creature of your choice.
Leaves the white Banneret. Guess that one will make Soldiers and Kithkins cheaper?


Hostile Realm -
Enchantment – Aura
Enchant Land.
Enchanted Land has “Tap: Target creature cannot block this turn.”
Common

This card really disappoints me. Unearthly Blizzard stops three creatures from blocking. Of course, that’s a one time event, but that card might be a finisher and was a surprise effect. This, at three mana…? Meh!


Walker of the Grove -
Creature – Elemental
When Walker of the Grove leaves play, put a 4/4 green Elemental creature token into play.
Evoke
7/7
Uncommon

Interesting! So you get a 4/4 for five mana or a 7/7 for eight mana that gives you a smaller replacement when killed. Definitely playable in limited!
Looks like the Evoke cards in Morningtide do something upon leaving play instead of entering play. Good versus mass removal too!
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Looks pretty neat. I'm not so big on the -1/-1 barrage, but it could have it's uses.

Walker of the grove is what I have my eye on. Post wrath party!
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Most of these look like OK-good limited cards and nothing more. The Realm is terrible and I doubt will see play. Weavers might be dangerous and I'm sure that they will sometimes win a draft or sealed. They are too costly for most Merfolk decks, though. I like the elemental a lot; it's got great synergy with Incandescent Soulstoke.

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HAHA! Penumbra mechanic is back with Walker of the Grove! LOL! Nice find BTW.
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at first glance, the banneret and walker of the grove seem like good limited cards. The banneret could even be constructed worthy in a solid elemental build. worth the try.
Pack disdain could be deceiving, think it isn't as bad as it looks.
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Yes, all cards except the Aura are very nice limited cards, but nothing really worthy for constructed. The Banner Ad seems good enough, but I think Elementals is the least likely tribe to succeed.

Pack's Disdain is not only in a cycle with Coordinated Barrage, but also Distant Melody. Screams cycle to me. The red one is probably adding mana since we already have damage on the white one, and the green one is probably +1/+1 until end of turn.
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this is exactly what i did NOT want to see: the Merfolk kinship gets the shaft. why couldn't it at least grant Islandwalk, so there was some synergy with every other GD Merfolk!!

Pack's Disdain could see played in Elf or Faerie decks and should be feared.

EDIT: i officially predict the Kithkin Banneret will have a 3cc
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:57 AM   #9
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Kithkin Zephyrnaut -
Creature – Kithkin Soldier
Kinship – At the beginning of your upkeep, you may look at the top card of your library. If it shares a creature type with Kithkin Zephyrnaut you may reveal it. If you do, Kithkin Zephyrnaut gets +2/+2 and gains flying and vigilance until end of turn.
2/2
Common
If you get the kinship off it is excellent in limited (so in draft or if you have enough kinship and soldiers) 4/4 vigiilance flying is great. Too expensive/unreliable in constructed.

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Order of the Golden Cricket -
Creature – Kithkin Knight
Whenever Order of the Golden Cricket attacks, you may pay . If you do, it gains flying until end of turn.
2/2
Common
Great in lilmited a very cheap flying bear. Might see play in constructed in Haakon decks because it is a Knight without ww in the cost.

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Waterspout Weavers -
Creature – Merfolk Wizard
Kinship - At the beginning of your upkeep, you may look at the top card of your library. If it shares a creature type with Waterspout Weavers you may reveal it. If you do, each creature you control gains flying until end of turn.
3/3
Uncommon
This will see play in limited if you have enough merfolks or wizards. Giving all your creatures evasion gives wins you games and blue is the best color for setting up kinship.

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Pack’s Disdain -
Instant
Choose a creature type.
Target creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn for each permanent of the chosen type you control.
Common
Strictly limited removal but good there. Unplayable in constructed, Nameless inversion is better and works with all tribes, or Eyeblights Ending/Shriekmaw if you want to remove big creatures.

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Brighthearth Banneret -
Creature – Elemental Warrior
Elemental spells and Warrior spells you play cost less to play.
Reinforce 1 –
1/1
Common
I actually expected this ability on the white banneret. Will probably see play although the 1 power for 2 cost hurts it quite a bit, but on the other hand both types can use the acceleration. I guess this means that the Kithkin one is a 1/1 with first strike and will probably be crap.

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Hostile Realm -
Enchantment – Aura
Enchant Land.
Enchanted Land has “Tap: Target creature cannot block this turn.”
Common
Too limited for limited even. In sealed maybe if I got nothing else better but even than it is iffy.

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Walker of the Grove -
Creature – Elemental
When Walker of the Grove leaves play, put a 4/4 green Elemental creature token into play.
Evoke
7/7
Uncommon
Really like this one. Either a big body or an even bigger body if you have the mana, that gives a smaller body if it dies.. Edit: wow completely forget how well it goes with Soulstoke. so will see play outside of limited in those decks.
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Gotta love finding out what this set's terrible common card is! (I speak of 15th pick cards, of course)
Red usually takes that award, and they missed out last set, because WoTC wanted to obsolete chimney imp with the black clash boggart that can't even block.

I really like the Kithkin. Sure the 'naut won't activate as often, say, the clash doublestrike kithkin would, but it still has a reasonable chance.
The Balloon Brigade bear is also sweet.
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Thank you, brother Sal!

The Zephyrnaut is as expected, the vigilance was the only one uncertainty.

The Golden Cricket knight is very flavorful, pay a mana and it will hop. The price and power ratio is nice.

The blue kinship uncommon is a bit unexpected, at least it gives ALL your critters flying, not only one. I kind of hoped for a card drawing, that will probably be the rare kinship card. That leaves...bounce for the common? Dunno, that seems a bit overpowered.
I am almost sure that this art belongs to these guys.

The reinforce on the banneret is a nice addition, and Elemental Warrior was given.

The Disdain is a tribe-matters version of Gasp & co. Decent.

Hostile Realm is a junk common, the Bog Hoodlums/Goldmeadow Dodger of MOR.

The elemental is sweeeet I wonder whether it will get its own token, or whether we are left with the Wisent one. Anyway, Incandescent Soulstoke, meet your new best pal.
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I like the -1/-1 barrage, in a tribal deck it's better than nameless if u have 3 or more creatures when you play it. I mean no it wont be constructed playable due to the obvious control factor that's always there but eh I think we'll see it sometime.
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As the elemental is worded, doesn't it give you a token if you blink it?

OK, it's an expensive trick to set up, but you're in Green so you can ramp mana quickly, and a 4/4 and a 7/7 (+ wrath proof) for 7 mana seems quite good, and an extra 4/4 everytime you blink it again.

I'm SO building that deck.
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Disdain is quite interesting take on -/- removal. Decks running changlings or perhaps Block U/B might use it.

The kithkin in this thread are good. Really good. I like them alot for limited and perhaps a random kith deck.
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As the elemental is worded, doesn't it give you a token if you blink it?

OK, it's an expensive trick to set up, but you're in Green so you can ramp mana quickly, and a 4/4 and a 7/7 (+ wrath proof) for 7 mana seems quite good, and an extra 4/4 everytime you blink it again.

I'm SO building that deck.
Ooohh... You're right! I guess it's better than penumbra afterall!
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