[MOR] Lunk Errant and Redeem the Lost (rumoured)

Orange Mage · 01-10-2008, 05:57 AM

Filling out a few gaps...

Spoiler:

Absolutionis · 01-10-2008, 05:59 AM

Shelter indeed. These are both rather mediocre cards liable to end up as 12th+ pick in drafts.

Nothing impressive at all.

Thanks for filling our gaps. It tickles.

Amadi · 01-10-2008, 06:00 AM

Basic fillers, however i must say that Redeem the Lost is intresting in limited. Moreso than the blue one of carddrawing at least.. Neither is constructed worthy though in my opinion.

rancored_elf · 01-10-2008, 06:00 AM

thanks

Not sure if they're accurate and stuff... but assuming they are, nothing there for constructed. 5/5 trample (at best) for 6, meh! And like you said, the other one loses the element of surprise. I don't much like clash.

Zombiemachine · 01-10-2008, 06:05 AM

Not exciting at all. Redeem might prove to be a rather annoying tool in limited, but lame all the same.
Anyway, nice finds. A big tap on the back to all rumormongers that had the info pouring these last few days. Keep up with the good work folks.

Machius · 01-10-2008, 06:08 AM

Lunk Errant- It's either a mediocre 4/4 red giant for 6 or if you have no other creatures to attack with its a limited worthy 5/5 trampling red giant for 6. Obviously no constructed value and very little limited value.

Redeem the Lost- Yes it's a worse Shelter, still it's an okay limited combat trick and if you clash works once it's actually worthwhile. Constructed jank though.

Shiri · 01-10-2008, 06:09 AM

Woah, I'm surprised you guys are giving redeem no credit. It's not like the surprise factor is all that relevant here. It's good for screwing with combat either way.

Casual · 01-10-2008, 07:05 AM

If you win the clash, you can use it multiple times in the same combat. Otherwise it's still a card that will trade for an enemy removal spell or creature. Not bad in limited at all, imho.

Azaris · 01-10-2008, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiri

Woah, I'm surprised you guys are giving redeem no credit. It's not like the surprise factor is all that relevant here. It's good for screwing with combat either way.

I kinda agree with you. I kinda like this card too. I will probably test it to see how good it is.

Nau · 01-10-2008, 08:13 AM

Redeem the lost is great as it is actually useful with kinship in limited at least: "oh I see a fattie all my creatures get protection from you colors, alpha strike, etc".

RickCorgan · 01-10-2008, 08:24 AM

Lunk Errant - This set's Bog Hoodlums... kinda. It can be played in some circumstances (Limited, of course), but I'd hate to have this in my deck.

Redeem the Lost - If only they were willing to exchange "creature" for "spell or permanent", then white would have a tournament-worthy card in this set. But alas, it was not to be.

Nau · 01-10-2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RickCorgan

Lunk Errant - This set's Bog Hoodlums... kinda. It can be played in some circumstances (Limited, of course), but I'd hate to have this in my deck.

Redeem the Lost - If only they were willing to exchange "creature" for "spell or permanent", then white would have a tournament-worthy card in this set. But alas, it was not to be.

I would play the Giant in sealed, it is quite splashable there and a 4/4 that can become a 5/5 trample is a very decent body. Unlike the Hoodlums that are just craptacular.

jerubbaal · 01-10-2008, 08:39 AM

The lunk seems decent. He fills about the same slot as Axegrinder in a giant deck, but has the virtue of trample, which frankly is pretty huge in a giant deck. The attack alone clause is annoying, but if you're swinging with multiple giants, you're probably well on the road to winning anyway.

I don't know how I feel about the clashback cards in general. I don't think this one's that potent, but I like tricks, so we'll see.

Prismetrix · 01-10-2008, 09:00 AM

Redeem the Lost does lose its surprise factor if you win, but on the other hand it makes your opponent play around it. They may not kill a creature with burn knowing you can just protect it again. They might wait until they know they can kill which leaves it as a threat on the board. I agree that it is not amazing, but winning does cause your opponent to have to play around it, making it a little more useful.

mikey k159 · 01-10-2008, 10:43 AM

that white card that gives protection is good, and i mean amazing IMO(provided you win clashes often of course

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01-10-2008, 05:57 AM	#1
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rancored_elf change we can imagine Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: peak everything Posts: 8,984	thanks Not sure if they're accurate and stuff... but assuming they are, nothing there for constructed. 5/5 trample (at best) for 6, meh! And like you said, the other one loses the element of surprise. I don't much like clash. __________________ "It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan

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Zombiemachine Sing, o muse, of rage unending Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: 1428 Elm street, Springwood. Helping Freddy in the boiler room. Posts: 2,612 Blog Entries: 18	Not exciting at all. Redeem might prove to be a rather annoying tool in limited, but lame all the same. Anyway, nice finds. A big tap on the back to all rumormongers that had the info pouring these last few days. Keep up with the good work folks. __________________ Banner and avatar by the one and only Craven at Epic graphics. Check them out. *Offical High Priest of Reign of Blood*

01-10-2008, 07:05 AM	#8
Casual Archmage Overlord Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Holland Posts: 1,016	If you win the clash, you can use it multiple times in the same combat. Otherwise it's still a card that will trade for an enemy removal spell or creature. Not bad in limited at all, imho. __________________ You'll bend to my will- with or without your precious sanity.

01-10-2008, 08:24 AM	#11
RickCorgan The Original Martian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Salvador, Brazil Posts: 6,534	Lunk Errant - This set's Bog Hoodlums... kinda. It can be played in some circumstances (Limited, of course), but I'd hate to have this in my deck. Redeem the Lost - If only they were willing to exchange "creature" for "spell or permanent", then white would have a tournament-worthy card in this set. But alas, it was not to be. __________________ *Athena's Servant of the Greek Alliance* ************** My custom sets: Verdict Block: Verdict \| Solstice \| Revenge Palouranos Block: Palouranos \| Forgotten Myths \| Cataclysm **************


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01-10-2008, 05:59 AM	#2
Absolutionis God Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: You live inside ME! Posts: 3,287	Shelter indeed. These are both rather mediocre cards liable to end up as 12th+ pick in drafts. Nothing impressive at all. Thanks for filling our gaps. It tickles.

01-10-2008, 06:09 AM	#7
Shiri Ascended Mage Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 182	Woah, I'm surprised you guys are giving redeem no credit. It's not like the surprise factor is all that relevant here. It's good for screwing with combat either way.

01-10-2008, 08:13 AM	#10
Nau Archmage Overlord Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,275	Redeem the lost is great as it is actually useful with kinship in limited at least: "oh I see a fattie all my creatures get protection from you colors, alpha strike, etc".

01-10-2008, 08:39 AM	#13
jerubbaal Archmage Overlord Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,908	The lunk seems decent. He fills about the same slot as Axegrinder in a giant deck, but has the virtue of trample, which frankly is pretty huge in a giant deck. The attack alone clause is annoying, but if you're swinging with multiple giants, you're probably well on the road to winning anyway. I don't know how I feel about the clashback cards in general. I don't think this one's that potent, but I like tricks, so we'll see. __________________ My Ratings Limited: 1917 Constructed: 1841 Composite: 1879 Mafia Stats <><

01-10-2008, 09:00 AM	#14
Prismetrix Ascended Mage Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 173	Redeem the Lost does lose its surprise factor if you win, but on the other hand it makes your opponent play around it. They may not kill a creature with burn knowing you can just protect it again. They might wait until they know they can kill which leaves it as a threat on the board. I agree that it is not amazing, but winning does cause your opponent to have to play around it, making it a little more useful. __________________ "You are what you pretend to be, so you must be careful what you pretend to be" from Mother Night

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