Since no one has created a thread for this card, he is a new Eventide card I found in our partial spoiler:
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Creature - Elemental
Chrome - Stalker of Shadows' power and toughness are each equal to the number of black mana symbols in mana costs on cards in your graveyard.
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This card brings up a few key points:
A new mechanic: Chrome. Will it only refer to the graveyard or any card that refers to mana symbols. (i.e. Phosphorescent Feast
Does it count hybrid mana symbols? (:sym2b: or :symub:)
Do you think is this card is constructed worthy? I would say no because of no evasion, and Korlash is probably more consistant without filling your graveyard specifically for this card. It does get more powerful in multiples like Korlash, but is vulnerable to graveyard hate. Also no evasion, or regeneration hurts. (Greater Gargadon syndrome) Also, I think its too expensive. I'd rather play Oona, my vote for most powerful creature in standard. Discuss.
There's a whole thread about this card from weeks ago. I'm kind of surprised it was added to the spoiler, because many believed it was fake and I don't recall seeing the usual confirmation about it...
Chrome was a sloppy translation of the mechanic, since the card shown was in a foreign language. No one could really figure out what the correct equivalent was outside of "Chrome" or "Corona."
I'd bet that the mods had new info stating it was real, otherwise it never would have hit the spoiler.
Huh. Strange to see it in the spoiler, but whatever.
"Good in limited, bad in Constructed" aka "GiLBiC". Another big fat black creature with no evasion or way to cheat him into play as a fatty means... jank rare for beating up your friends at the kitchen table.
Decent with Rite of Consumption, I guess. If I ever make a casual-ish dredge deck I'd probably run him in it for fun with dread return. What with the Ichorids, Bridges, Imp's, etc he'll probably end up lethal in one swing... well, assuming he doesn't get chump blocked by a saproling token, that is.
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Yea i heard about it but I couldn't find that thread, so if a mod wants they can merge the two threads together.
The thread poster wanted the mods to delete the thread -- I know because at one point the title changed from something about the card to "mods please delete" -- and then they did delete it.
"Chrome" (remember, it's in italics) is an ability word that presumably involves counting the number of mana symbols of a color somewhere. Ability words have no inherent rules meaning, but are useful to help identify multiple cards that work similarly (see hellbent, radiance, sweep, etc.).
"Chrome" seems like the simplest back-translation for the Spanish "Chroma" which IIRC was on the original spoiled card.
'Chrome' is one of those really-but-not-quite keywords like Hellbent or Threshold. Each onecan do different things that are better identified on each specific card.
Now I'm really curious as to where the confirmation on this came from. I beseech the spoiler gods for more information.
The thread had the scan removed and 'please remove this' when I saw it, but from my understanding, it is of the same nature as Shivan Meteor. Look up how that card was spoiled if you don't remember. (People cried fake because of the mockup scan)
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Look up how that card was spoiled if you don't remember. (People cried fake because of the mockup scan)
So, as long as the spoiler follows the same pattern as a known, accurate rumor from the past, it's assumed to be true? That seems like a dangerous precedent. Wouldn't that just encourage fakers to find an accurate rumor and follow those steps with a fake?
The card was deemed real in the thread about it, but my understanding is that the thread featured a PDF with the image of the card and the forum were asked to remove that thread because of the PDF.
While people did cry that it was fake, it matched the previous early PDF cards that we have seen here before (aka Shivan Meteor when it was first spoiled). This accounted for the way the picture looked.
However, because it was only one card with an ability word and it was in a foreign language, it is very hard to accurately deduce what the ability word will end up being and what part of the ability word's text will show up from card to card with that same ability word. What we can infer, is that the card is black and the ability word's text refers to black mana symbols, so if the card was red, the ability word would probably show up as red, and if it was a hybrid white / black card, the ability word would probably show up as white or black.
Generally speaking, most ability word text is almost identical, so I think it is unlikely that both the P/T setting and the zone it checks would change. One of those will stay the same on all cards with this ability word. Personally, I think all "Chrome" cards will check the graveyard for mana symbols to do some effect.
As for the card itself, well, it might not have any evasion, but with very little effort, the card could be absolutely huge when it hits play. Imagine if you had a Ashenmore Gouger and Beseech the Queen in there, the creature would come in as a 6/6 for 7 mana, and that is only with two black cards in the graveyard. As a true finisher, it lacks evasion and unsolvability, but in terms of size, it can be very, very big.
Gofy cost 2 and is VERY splashable into any color; this guy cost 7?....
This.
For 1G on turn two you get a (usually) 2/3 that grows to about 4/5, maybe 5/6 in a turn or two, just by playing your deck normally.
Compared to:
4BBB that you can't cast early because its power is tied to mana symbols, so you'll need to have a lot of B in your graveyard. That doesn't happen very fast (unless you're in dredge, like I mentioned). So the only way to get him out fast (reanimation) makes him come into play very small. Then you have to start pumping black cards into the graveyard, fast, to get him bigger.
Compare this new guy to Tombstalker, and you'll see why I don't think this guy will see play. Tombstalker will cost you about two, three or maybe four mana for a 5/5 with evasion. And TS is still legal and doesn't see much play right now either.
Costs more, no evasion, extremely deck dependent makes this a fine casual card, and probably worth picking in draft if you're already heavy black (or b/x hybrids), but probably not worth it in Constructed.
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One problem I see with the current translation of the Crome ability is how will it work with cards like Dark Ritual +1 or +4 or even worse Cabal Ritual +1 or +9:o. I am not saying fake, I am just hopeing that the ability got tested a lot and was worded very carefully.
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by ninja squirrels either. - Dr. Wilson
1. Phosphorescent Feast is in Eventide, with an ability word added.
2. This card is part of a cycle that is worded like Feast (and therefore only sees symbols in costs).
They've already ruled that Feast sees hybrid symbols as symbols of each color, so I'm sure that will continue.
I will speculate that this ability word will only show up on a single cycle, and thus only on 3 unspoiled cards. Since green got the lifegain, the white one might actually be decent: I'd guess token generation. Blue should be an insane card-draw spell. Red might be an Inferno effect that doesn't hit players?
So, as long as the spoiler follows the same pattern as a known, accurate rumor from the past, it's assumed to be true? That seems like a dangerous precedent.
This card wasn't included on the partial spoiler because it "followed the same pattern" as a known spoiler from a past set; it was included on the partial spoiler because we believe that it's real, and we're pointing people to the Shivan Meteor situation so they can see that if they're skeptical.
I'm not very worried about people taking this route to produce fakes. Getting the "pre-release PDF" style right isn't necessarily any easier than getting a mockup to look like a real card. Anyway, ultimately all scanned card rumors come down to one thing: the card needs to have art, that art needs to come from somewhere, that somewhere is almost always on the Internet, so someone will almost always find it.
i think the only way that this guy will be good is if he finds a deck that can just delay and stop all threats till he gets big
like the upheaval+psyatog decks back in the day that just won by delaying until you can win the next turn. I can see him with damnation but still he needs black mana symbols.
if eventide has no cards to support this style of deck, he will be a $1 rare
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1. Phosphorescent Feast is in Eventide, with an ability word added.
2. This card is part of a cycle that is worded like Feast (and therefore only sees symbols in costs).
I'm sure Phosphorescent Feast won't be in Eventide because Eventide doesn't have the new card face and P.F. is also uncommon while this is rare, which would mean they think P.F. is interesting enough to warrant a card slot outside of a cycle. Besides, adding Chrome to the reprint would irk them. With that in mind, I think there's a good chance Chrome will include non-mana cost mana symbols; it makes the ability more splashy.
Since green got the lifegain, the white one might actually be decent: I'd guess token generation. Blue should be an insane card-draw spell. Red might be an Inferno effect that doesn't hit players?
Possibly, though I hope there's at least one interesting card out of the bunch. Token generation/lifegain/card draw/pyroclasm is kind of boring.
I'm sure Phosphorescent Feast won't be in Eventide because Eventide doesn't have the new card face and P.F. is also uncommon while this is rare, which would mean they think P.F. is interesting enough to warrant a card slot outside of a cycle. Besides, adding Chrome to the reprint would irk them. With that in mind, I think there's a good chance Chrome will include non-mana cost mana symbols; it makes the ability more splashy.
The card face was only for FS - the cards are reprinted in normal face. See Mass of Ghouls, Graven Cairns, etc. The rarity may change too.
It seems likely to me now that Phosphorescent Feast will be in EVE. Dunno if something good will come out of this cycle.
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Depending on what other (W/B) hybrids are in the set (and I think they'll have some nice ones) I could definitely see this guy as a finisher in a WB Control style deck.
Spirit en-Dal would be a nice way to give him evasion, and I also think if they continue the Avatar Aura cycle, there could very well be evasion on it (in the form of giving flying to black creatures)
Stalker of Shadows 4BBB
Creature - Elemental
Chrome - Stalker of Shadows' power and toughness are each equal to the number of black mana symbols in mana costs on cards in your graveyard.
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This card brings up a few key points:
Looks like a fun card.
I'd bet that the mods had new info stating it was real, otherwise it never would have hit the spoiler.
"Good in limited, bad in Constructed" aka "GiLBiC". Another big fat black creature with no evasion or way to cheat him into play as a fatty means... jank rare for beating up your friends at the kitchen table.
Decent with Rite of Consumption, I guess. If I ever make a casual-ish dredge deck I'd probably run him in it for fun with dread return. What with the Ichorids, Bridges, Imp's, etc he'll probably end up lethal in one swing... well, assuming he doesn't get chump blocked by a saproling token, that is.
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The thread poster wanted the mods to delete the thread -- I know because at one point the title changed from something about the card to "mods please delete" -- and then they did delete it.
"Chrome" (remember, it's in italics) is an ability word that presumably involves counting the number of mana symbols of a color somewhere. Ability words have no inherent rules meaning, but are useful to help identify multiple cards that work similarly (see hellbent, radiance, sweep, etc.).
"Chrome" seems like the simplest back-translation for the Spanish "Chroma" which IIRC was on the original spoiled card.
Big creature is big.
For instance, Phosphorescent Feast could very well have had Chrome.
Profane command. But this card is not worth trying to make a deck out of.
The thread had the scan removed and 'please remove this' when I saw it, but from my understanding, it is of the same nature as Shivan Meteor. Look up how that card was spoiled if you don't remember. (People cried fake because of the mockup scan)
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Gofy cost 2 and is VERY splashable into any color; this guy cost 7?....
So, as long as the spoiler follows the same pattern as a known, accurate rumor from the past, it's assumed to be true? That seems like a dangerous precedent. Wouldn't that just encourage fakers to find an accurate rumor and follow those steps with a fake?
While people did cry that it was fake, it matched the previous early PDF cards that we have seen here before (aka Shivan Meteor when it was first spoiled). This accounted for the way the picture looked.
However, because it was only one card with an ability word and it was in a foreign language, it is very hard to accurately deduce what the ability word will end up being and what part of the ability word's text will show up from card to card with that same ability word. What we can infer, is that the card is black and the ability word's text refers to black mana symbols, so if the card was red, the ability word would probably show up as red, and if it was a hybrid white / black card, the ability word would probably show up as white or black.
Generally speaking, most ability word text is almost identical, so I think it is unlikely that both the P/T setting and the zone it checks would change. One of those will stay the same on all cards with this ability word. Personally, I think all "Chrome" cards will check the graveyard for mana symbols to do some effect.
As for the card itself, well, it might not have any evasion, but with very little effort, the card could be absolutely huge when it hits play. Imagine if you had a Ashenmore Gouger and Beseech the Queen in there, the creature would come in as a 6/6 for 7 mana, and that is only with two black cards in the graveyard. As a true finisher, it lacks evasion and unsolvability, but in terms of size, it can be very, very big.
This.
For 1G on turn two you get a (usually) 2/3 that grows to about 4/5, maybe 5/6 in a turn or two, just by playing your deck normally.
Compared to:
4BBB that you can't cast early because its power is tied to mana symbols, so you'll need to have a lot of B in your graveyard. That doesn't happen very fast (unless you're in dredge, like I mentioned). So the only way to get him out fast (reanimation) makes him come into play very small. Then you have to start pumping black cards into the graveyard, fast, to get him bigger.
Compare this new guy to Tombstalker, and you'll see why I don't think this guy will see play. Tombstalker will cost you about two, three or maybe four mana for a 5/5 with evasion. And TS is still legal and doesn't see much play right now either.
Costs more, no evasion, extremely deck dependent makes this a fine casual card, and probably worth picking in draft if you're already heavy black (or b/x hybrids), but probably not worth it in Constructed.
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There's no proof she's being chased
by ninja squirrels either. - Dr. Wilson
1. Phosphorescent Feast is in Eventide, with an ability word added.
2. This card is part of a cycle that is worded like Feast (and therefore only sees symbols in costs).
They've already ruled that Feast sees hybrid symbols as symbols of each color, so I'm sure that will continue.
I will speculate that this ability word will only show up on a single cycle, and thus only on 3 unspoiled cards. Since green got the lifegain, the white one might actually be decent: I'd guess token generation. Blue should be an insane card-draw spell. Red might be an Inferno effect that doesn't hit players?
Make a card called Long For This World.
Yes. That's why the mechanic is included in this set.
This card wasn't included on the partial spoiler because it "followed the same pattern" as a known spoiler from a past set; it was included on the partial spoiler because we believe that it's real, and we're pointing people to the Shivan Meteor situation so they can see that if they're skeptical.
I'm not very worried about people taking this route to produce fakes. Getting the "pre-release PDF" style right isn't necessarily any easier than getting a mockup to look like a real card. Anyway, ultimately all scanned card rumors come down to one thing: the card needs to have art, that art needs to come from somewhere, that somewhere is almost always on the Internet, so someone will almost always find it.
like the upheaval+psyatog decks back in the day that just won by delaying until you can win the next turn. I can see him with damnation but still he needs black mana symbols.
if eventide has no cards to support this style of deck, he will be a $1 rare
Possibly, though I hope there's at least one interesting card out of the bunch. Token generation/lifegain/card draw/pyroclasm is kind of boring.
It seems likely to me now that Phosphorescent Feast will be in EVE. Dunno if something good will come out of this cycle.
Spirit en-Dal would be a nice way to give him evasion, and I also think if they continue the Avatar Aura cycle, there could very well be evasion on it (in the form of giving flying to black creatures)
/shrug, just a thought
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