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Old 07-09-2008, 02:12 AM   #1
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Default [EVE] Batwing Brume, Patrol Signaler & Rise of the Hobgoblins (Rumor)

Hello everyone, Diamond here!
Some cards for us for the spoiler:

The enchantment that makes tokens is called Rise of the Hobgoblins and it is rare. It is number 145.

Batwing Brume (U)
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Each player loses 1 life for each attacking creature he or she controls if B was spent to play this. (do both if BW was spent).
81 / 180? couldn't get number

Patrol Signaler (U)
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1 / 1
12 / 180

Thanks everyone, that's all from me this set, it's been great posting here. I hope we get the full spoiler done before the weekend.

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Old 07-09-2008, 02:15 AM   #2
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Batwing Brume is pretty nasty, screwing their combat phase more than Fog could. Others are pretty meh. And where is our 100 card?

Thanks for your support, Diamond!
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The fog effect on Brume was predicted, but I like the Black part. Signaler is solid for limited.

Thanks for helping fill in the last bits, any word on the '100' card?
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Put a Presence of Gond on the Kithkin and here comes the tokens
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I'm wonder if the art for batwing brume is humorous, sounds like it to me anyways. I like the card-my playgroup is going to hate it. Hehe

Now this throws the spoiler off. The last BW card missing is a rare, are you 100% sure batwing brume is uncommon? All 6 uncommons were accounted for by last estimate.

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Old 07-09-2008, 02:32 AM   #6
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I'm wonder if the art for batwing brume is humorous, sounds like it to me anyways.
This is it:


Not too humorous, if you ask me.
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yeah that looks like it is in fact, the opposite of Humorous, aka unhumorous
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Now that we know its a fog/life leech effect, I'm totally gonna call Batwing Brume: "Bat Spray"!

Opponent: I'll attack with five dorks for six damage.
ME: Uhhhhhhh, No?!? Bat Spray.
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Thanks Crazy Diamond, we're getting close now.

Rise of the Hobgoblins- without knowing the details beyond the color rarity number and the fact it makes tokens, it's impossible to judge. could be quite good though.

Batwing Brume (U)1- Nice fog effect, for a BW deck. A kithkin player attacks with a heap of tokens, casts Mirrorweave and then you cast this and they end up crying.

Patrol Signaler (U)1w- okay 1w for a 1/1 is bad, but kithkin soldier are 2 viable types and a kithkin soldier token production ability is also nice(even if it's based). Probably won't make it in constructed, might be nice in limited if you can get a good aura like Presence of Gond or Power of Fire to go with it.
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Thanks Crazy Diamond, we're getting close now.

Rise of the Hobgoblins- without knowing the details beyond the color rarity number and the fact it makes tokens, it's impossible to judge. could be quite good though.

Batwing Brume (U)1- Nice fog effect, for a BW deck. A kithkin player attacks with a heap of tokens, casts Mirrorweave and then you cast this and they end up crying.

Patrol Signaler (U)1w- okay 1w for a 1/1 is bad, but kithkin soldier are 2 viable types and a kithkin soldier token production ability is also nice(even if it's based). Probably won't make it in constructed, might be nice in limited if you can get a good aura like Presence of Gond or Power of Fire to go with it.
Very informative and well thought out comments. I lol'd @ your statement on Batwing Brume and kithkin player attacking.
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Thanks Crazy Diamond, we're getting close now.

Rise of the Hobgoblins- without knowing the details beyond the color rarity number and the fact it makes tokens, it's impossible to judge. could be quite good though.
But we do have its text. Though it will be appropriate to post it here, too:

Rise of the Hobgoblins
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When Rise of the Hobgoblins comes into play, you may pay x. If you do, put X 1/1 Red and White Goblin Soldier tokens into play.
: Red and/or White creatures you control gain first strike until end of turn.
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Rise of the Hobgoblins
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When Rise of the Hobgoblins comes into play, you may pay x. If you do, put X 1/1 Red and White Goblin Soldier tokens into play.
: Red and/or White creatures you control gain first strike until end of turn.

Imo this should cost one mana less. For four it's a (not strictly) worse Empty the Warrens and for five an (almost strictly) worse Siege-Gang Commander.
Maybe the versatility makes up for that. I will definitely try it out, maybe even in a mono white deck.

@fnord: I just edited that into my post and you are absolutely right. Rosheen sounds like a fun combo with this. She gets first strike too!
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Rise of the Hobgoblins
Enchantment (R)
When Rise of the Hobgoblins comes into play, you may pay x. If you do, put X 1/1 Red and White Goblin Soldier tokens into play.
: Red and/or White creatures you control gain first strike until end of turn.

Imo this should cost one mana less. For four it's a (not strictly) worse Empty the Warrens and for five an (almost strictly) worse Siege-Gang Commander.
X spells are always less efficient than non-X spells at the same CMC. They more than make up for that in flexibility.

Rise is loads of fun with Rosheen Meanderer
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Patrol Signaler (U)1w- okay 1w for a 1/1 is bad, but kithkin soldier are 2 viable types and a kithkin soldier token production ability is also nice(even if it's based). Probably won't make it in constructed, might be nice in limited if you can get a good aura like Presence of Gond or Power of Fire to go with it.
It costs 1w to prevent it going infinite with Utopia Vow.

N yes, Rosheen with the Rise will get you 7 1/1s on the 5th turn, and I just realized its like a reverse Mobilization.

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Rise of the Hobgoblins
Enchantment (R)
When Rise of the Hobgoblins comes into play, you may pay x. If you do, put X 1/1 Red and White Goblin Soldier tokens into play.
: Red and/or White creatures you control gain first strike until end of turn.

Imo this should cost one mana less. For four it's a (not strictly) worse Empty the Warrens and for five an (almost strictly) worse Siege-Gang Commander.
Maybe the versatility makes up for that. I will definitely try it out, maybe even in a mono white deck.

@fnord: I just edited that into my post and you are absolutely right. Rosheen sounds like a fun combo with this. She gets first strike too!
I think you made a bad comparison. It's not only a token generator, it could make all of your guys to be first strikers for just 1 mana ! And the tokens are soldiers not just goblins, and this also could played in a monowhite (soldier) deck.
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