[ALA] Bant Battlemage

Quimbythemouseslayer · 09-09-2008, 08:41 AM

I have another one for you.

Bant Battlemage
2W
creature-human wizard

G,T: Target creature gains trample until end of turn.
U,T: Target vcreature gains flying until end of turn

2/2

(uncommon)

Gix · 09-09-2008, 08:42 AM

Both abilities work very well with Exalted. Not as good as the tapper ones, but this is quite reasonable.

Machine Messiah · 09-09-2008, 08:46 AM

I don't really like this cycle. It would've been cool if they made more comes-into-play cards (like Sunscape Battlemage), except maybe this time give them flash and water down the abilities a bit. With these, it looks like they took stuff that could've easily gone on a 1 or 2 mana 1/1 (Shadow Guildmage) and bumped it up to 3 mana because it's a 2/2.

(still, it's better than Disciple of Kangee...)

Gloom Princess · 09-09-2008, 08:51 AM

The interaction with Exalted is pretty good, but I don't know about Constructed good. It sure does play nice in Limited. One thing that strikes me as odd is that the other Battlemages we've seen have abilities that by themselves could win you the game (token generation and life loss), but this one lacks it.

ThunderEarthFire · 09-09-2008, 08:55 AM

So this essentially proves that the abilities won't be the same for the battlemages that share an allied color. That's good.

voicej · 09-09-2008, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gloom Princess

The interaction with Exalted is pretty good, but I don't know about Constructed good. It sure does play nice in Limited. One thing that strikes me as odd is that the other Battlemages we've seen have abilities that by themselves could win you the game (token generation and life loss), but this one lacks it.

actually that's just the jund mage, the naya mage pumps and taps down (which also works with exalted). I think in limited this could win games because of how strong flying is.

chop01 · 09-09-2008, 08:59 AM

It seems good in limited.
I don't see why you would give trample to your creature if you could give it flying... unless they have a flying chump blocker, that is.

lostandthedamned · 09-09-2008, 09:00 AM

Maybe I expect to much but doesn't 3 mana seem to much for a guildmage, Either cost at

or with the abilities only requiring a tap would make this much more playable and still not be over the curve. It's not so important that it's a 2/2 if it's going to be using it's abilities and not attacking.

darkhiroki · 09-09-2008, 09:02 AM

.......ok ill say it here and ill say it now,

the alara battlemage cycle SUCKS!

seriously. they are like one of the worst cycles in magic history.

id take up the martyr cycle of coldsnap anytime and anywhere.

Penguinguru917 · 09-09-2008, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chop01

It seems good in limited.
I don't see why you would give trample to your creature if you could give it flying... unless they have a flying chump blocker, that is.

I agree. It seems as though the flying ability trumps trample most of the time. The most likely case where you don't use flying is if you don't have the blue mana available.

However, it is worth pointing out that this battlemage's abilities correspond VERY well to other shards if you only use one of them.

The green and white also goes with Naya, which has lots of big beasties that would love to have trample. Meanwhile, you could be running Esper and be able to give your creatures flying.

Now that I think about it, the other battlemages work this way too.

luminum can · 09-09-2008, 09:06 AM

You're comparing these battlemages, which are Grey Ogres at worst, to the Laces? That's a bold statement.

the_fish · 09-09-2008, 09:07 AM

Great in limited, shame the cycle isn't common.

But then again, with such a small set size, maybe they belong at uncommon...

UncleNate15 · 09-09-2008, 09:13 AM

This is about what I expected, given the previously spoiled battlemages.

MODS: Could someone please add the [ALA] to the thread title? Thanks.

St@rWizard · 09-09-2008, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkhiroki

.......ok ill say it here and ill say it now,

the alara battlemage cycle SUCKS!

seriously. they are like one of the worst cycles in magic history.

id take up the martyr cycle of coldsnap anytime and anywhere.

Feel free to pass all of them to me in draft. I won't complain, I promise

jcsuperstar · 09-09-2008, 09:14 AM

I don't like this one much--It gets some damage through but doesn't add anything to your board position the way tappers or token generators do.

09-09-2008, 08:41 AM	#1
Quimbythemouseslayer Just Getting Started Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2	[ALA] Bant Battlemage I have another one for you. Bant Battlemage 2W creature-human wizard G,T: Target creature gains trample until end of turn. U,T: Target vcreature gains flying until end of turn 2/2 (uncommon)

09-09-2008, 08:42 AM	#2
Gix Archmage Overlord Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,636	Both abilities work very well with Exalted. Not as good as the tapper ones, but this is quite reasonable. __________________ "The order of dismissal of the complaint will be affirmed for the reasons stated... and for the additional reason that this is a suit against the United States and the United States has not consented to be sued as is required."

09-09-2008, 08:51 AM	#4
Gloom Princess Ascended Mage Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 182	The interaction with Exalted is pretty good, but I don't know about Constructed good. It sure does play nice in Limited. One thing that strikes me as odd is that the other Battlemages we've seen have abilities that by themselves could win you the game (token generation and life loss), but this one lacks it. __________________ Death inverts the red from romance.

09-09-2008, 08:55 AM	#5
ThunderEarthFire Wizard Mentor Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 536	So this essentially proves that the abilities won't be the same for the battlemages that share an allied color. That's good. __________________

09-09-2008, 09:00 AM	#8
lostandthedamned Archmage Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 841	Maybe I expect to much but doesn't 3 mana seem to much for a guildmage, Either cost at or with the abilities only requiring a tap would make this much more playable and still not be over the curve. It's not so important that it's a 2/2 if it's going to be using it's abilities and not attacking. __________________ When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams can come true. Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteorite.


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09-09-2008, 08:46 AM	#3
Machine Messiah Ascended Mage Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Houston TX Posts: 307 Blog Entries: 12	I don't really like this cycle. It would've been cool if they made more comes-into-play cards (like Sunscape Battlemage), except maybe this time give them flash and water down the abilities a bit. With these, it looks like they took stuff that could've easily gone on a 1 or 2 mana 1/1 (Shadow Guildmage) and bumped it up to 3 mana because it's a 2/2. (still, it's better than Disciple of Kangee...)

09-09-2008, 08:59 AM	#7
chop01 Just Getting Started Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 12	It seems good in limited. I don't see why you would give trample to your creature if you could give it flying... unless they have a flying chump blocker, that is.

09-09-2008, 09:06 AM	#11
luminum can Axiomatic Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,059	You're comparing these battlemages, which are Grey Ogres at worst, to the Laces? That's a bold statement. __________________ Playing: E-Bomb

09-09-2008, 09:07 AM	#12
the_fish Ascendant Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: at the beginning of the end step Posts: 1,273	Great in limited, shame the cycle isn't common. But then again, with such a small set size, maybe they belong at uncommon...

09-09-2008, 09:14 AM	#15
jcsuperstar Archmage Overlord Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,211	I don't like this one much--It gets some damage through but doesn't add anything to your board position the way tappers or token generators do. __________________ I'm a mathematics Ph.D. student studying complex systems. Learn about them here!

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