[ALA] all 5 Charms (confirmed)

kami.inu · 09-13-2008, 01:05 AM

These were posted in speculation. Whether they are real or not I don't know, but I thought I'd put them here instead of hidden away.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orei

All confirmed (all instants and uncommons)

Jund Charm GRB
Remove of the game target player graveyard; or ~ deals 2 damage to each creature; or put two +1/+1 counters on target creature.

Naya Charm RGW
~ deals 3 damage to target creature; or return target card in a graveyard to its owners' hand; or tap all creatures target player control

Esper charm WUB
Destroy target enchantment; or draw two cards; or target playerdiscards two cards.

Grixis Charm RBU
Return target permanent to its owners' hand; or target creature gets -4/-4 until end of turn; or creatures you control gets +2/+0 until end of turn.

Bant Charm UWG
Destroy target artifact; or put target creature on the bottom of its owner's librery; or counter target spell.

Have fun!

Ondriq · 09-13-2008, 01:18 AM

Hmm, Naya charm taps all creatures target player controls? I thought it was blue ability (see Cryptic Command) but otherwise those charms are quite believable.

disgust: well, more than a few times actually there were cards "hidden" deep in some other threads, speculation subforum, PMs and signatures... this charms would not suprise me to be real. Although I will wait for some kind of "official approval" to believe, ofcourse, but until then - innocent until proven guilty

Kev the Walker · 09-13-2008, 01:20 AM

The Esper one is terribly weak in all 3 choices for the cost. Compare it to the one we already know(an instant speed Pyroclasm). 3 different colored mana to destroy and artifact or to destroy an enchantment? Mmm... I don't think so.

Disclaimer: Then again, I may be wrong, but it just seems really weak.

Fatguy Poolshark · 09-13-2008, 01:20 AM

Those are all really really good.... Wow i love the UWB

Burning_Lotus · 09-13-2008, 01:22 AM

If those are all as posted they are REALLY strong.

Rubin8or · 09-13-2008, 01:24 AM

Esper and bant own face, although bant is the worst colour combination ever. Instant discard/draw owns. Are you sure Esper isn't sorcey?

heroicraptor · 09-13-2008, 01:25 AM

They fit with the number of "Charm"s that the Orb gives.

Raikou Rider · 09-13-2008, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev the Walker

The Esper one, for instance, is terribly weak in all 3 choices for the cost.

I wouldn't call instant speed draw or discard "weak".

The Bant Charm is looking very powerful. If this is indeed true, I'm for certain playing Bant aggro-control soon.

demigodxyz · 09-13-2008, 01:26 AM

@ The Grixis one. Removal, bounce, and pump all in one. Seriously thats amazing. On the other hand these might not even be real, so I don't know.

Dobber · 09-13-2008, 01:27 AM

The Bant charm is broken if real. Did no one play with Dromar's Charm? This is just better. Sure it's green instead of black but countering a spell or getting rid of the most dangerous creature on the table is disgusting.

Fumar · 09-13-2008, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev the Walker

That's true, and the charms are rather imbalanced. The Esper one, for instance, is terribly weak in all 3 choices for the cost. Compare it to the one we already know(an instant speed Pyroclasm). 3 different colored mana to destroy and artifact or to destroy an enchantment? Mmm... I don't think so.

Disclaimer: Then again, I may be wrong, but it just seems really weak.

Instant speed draw 2 bad?!

Millatog45 · 09-13-2008, 01:42 AM

The Bant charm seems very good. All of the abilities are legit, and you can take out any creature?? It seems amazing to me.

nickolai · 09-13-2008, 01:42 AM

Good lord, these will put Archon Toast way over the top if real. Bant Charm alone trumps the three common ways to beat it - T2 Blossom, early Colossus, early Gouger.

Oops. misread it. Naya Charm kills Blossom. No big, since QnT will run Naya Charms anyway.

Neyda · 09-13-2008, 01:42 AM

The Esper Charm is an instant + one more option version of Consult the Necrosages for the additional color in the cost. Still, the CMC is the same! I like it. I like the others too.

Fumar · 09-13-2008, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Millatog45

The Bant charm seems very good. All of the abilities are legit, and you can take out any creature?? It seems amazing to me.

Yeah it kinda makes me think the whole cycle is fake somewhat.

09-13-2008, 01:18 AM	#2
Ondriq Common Mage Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 46	Hmm, Naya charm taps all creatures target player controls? I thought it was blue ability (see Cryptic Command) but otherwise those charms are quite believable. disgust: well, more than a few times actually there were cards "hidden" deep in some other threads, speculation subforum, PMs and signatures... this charms would not suprise me to be real. Although I will wait for some kind of "official approval" to believe, ofcourse, but until then - innocent until proven guilty __________________ Note to myself: Talk like Mr. Yoda do NOT.

09-13-2008, 01:20 AM	#3
Kev the Walker Experienced Rage Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Still walking Posts: 2,360	The Esper one is terribly weak in all 3 choices for the cost. Compare it to the one we already know(an instant speed Pyroclasm). 3 different colored mana to destroy and artifact or to destroy an enchantment? Mmm... I don't think so. Disclaimer: Then again, I may be wrong, but it just seems really weak. Last edited by rancored_elf : 09-13-2008 at 03:21 PM.

09-13-2008, 01:20 AM	#4
Fatguy Poolshark Insert Custom Title Here Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,056	Those are all really really good.... Wow i love the UWB __________________ Trade with me Yes i am the same guy who trades/sells on MOTL AND Wizards of the Coast and i trade on POJO.

09-13-2008, 01:22 AM	#5
Burning_Lotus Ascended Mage Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 332	If those are all as posted they are REALLY strong. __________________ Thanks to greenFTW for the banner! [Trade Thread] Member - Magic Eternal Vintage, Legacy, Classic. Eternal till the day we die.

09-13-2008, 01:24 AM	#6
Rubin8or Let lemonwood grow lemons Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 2,646	Esper and bant own face, although bant is the worst colour combination ever. Instant discard/draw owns. Are you sure Esper isn't sorcey? __________________


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09-13-2008, 01:26 AM	#9
demigodxyz Ascended Mage Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: under a bridge Posts: 354	@ The Grixis one. Removal, bounce, and pump all in one. Seriously thats amazing. On the other hand these might not even be real, so I don't know. __________________ Credit for the banner and avatar goes to the people at High~Light Studios.

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Dobber Winning with untested decks since 2008 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Louisville, Ky Posts: 1,043	The Bant charm is broken if real. Did no one play with Dromar's Charm? This is just better. Sure it's green instead of black but countering a spell or getting rid of the most dangerous creature on the table is disgusting. __________________ Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. Watch it. Now. Your life is incomplete until you do. Proud member of the Dai Gurren Brigade. See my alters here: http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q16/jimmy2do/Cards/

09-13-2008, 01:42 AM	#12
Millatog45 Wizard Mentor Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 577	The Bant charm seems very good. All of the abilities are legit, and you can take out any creature?? It seems amazing to me. __________________ Thanks to DarkNightCavalier and XenoNinja at Heroes of the Plane Studios for the banner and avatar. Who Dat? Super Bowl Champions

09-13-2008, 01:42 AM	#13
nickolai Archmage Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 894	Good lord, these will put Archon Toast way over the top if real. Bant Charm alone trumps the three common ways to beat it - T2 Blossom, early Colossus, early Gouger. Oops. misread it. Naya Charm kills Blossom. No big, since QnT will run Naya Charms anyway. Last edited by nickolai : 09-13-2008 at 01:45 AM.

09-13-2008, 01:42 AM	#14
Neyda Wizard Mentor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 729	The Esper Charm is an instant + one more option version of Consult the Necrosages for the additional color in the cost. Still, the CMC is the same! I like it. I like the others too. __________________ Many thanks to spiderboy4 at High~Light studios.

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