[ALA] Super Cyclers: Limited Hotness In Alara!

zesty234 · 09-17-2008, 08:04 AM

Super Cyclers:

These 5 spells that are in the new set, have amazing Limited Potential for the common slot (Cept for Black). But here is the Cycle of what I like to Call the "Super Cyclers"

White - 3(W)

Instant

Remove target attacking creature from the game.

Cycling (W)(G)(B)5: Remove up to 2 attacking Creatures from the game.

Blue - 2(U)

Instant

Return target permanent to owners hand.

Cycling (R)(G)(U)5: Return up to 2 permanents to owners hand.

Black - 2(S)

Sorcery

Target Player Discards at random a card from their hand.

Cycling (B)(R)(U)5: Target player discards 2 cards at random from their hand.

Green - 1(G)

Instant

Target Creature gets +3/+3 until end of turn.

Cycling (W)(G)(R)5: Target Creature gets +6/+6 until end of turn.

Red - 2(R)

Instant

Target Creature or Player takes 3 Damage.

Cycling (R)(G)(B)5: Target Creature or Player takes 6 Damage.

flappy · 09-17-2008, 08:05 AM

Justa hard way to cantrip..

Zoidberg · 09-17-2008, 08:06 AM

I don't get it, cycle for 8???

PhyreMynd · 09-17-2008, 08:07 AM

The black one sucks hardcore. Might have been worth it at 1

with a cycling of 1

. but at 3 and 6, and as a sorcery it is completely worthless.

The rest are pretty good. Thanks, Zesty.

Gloom Princess · 09-17-2008, 08:08 AM

I guess the idea is that they cost a ton to cycle because the effects are game breaking late game, and you get a card out of it? Right? Seems expensive...

Autarch · 09-17-2008, 08:09 AM

I'm not sure how much these will see play based on how expensive their primary effects are.

I could only see the red one seeing any volume of play. 3 burn for 3 isn't amazing, but the option to end the game in an uncounterable fashion is too much for me to resist. It's essentially the same for me as Molten Disaster - not used to kill creatures, but players.

V_Raziel · 09-17-2008, 08:09 AM

The green and the red are good.

Black is trash.

White and blue... Ok... More or less ok...

But the cost of each cycling... Auch

jcsuperstar · 09-17-2008, 08:14 AM

People are complaining about these? I don't get it. In limited, each one except the black one is first-pickable. In constructed, the red is definitely playable and the blue and green may be as well.

Of course the cycling costs are expensive! What do you expect to pay for getting twice the normal effect AND drawing a card?

Tanthalas Half-Elven · 09-17-2008, 08:14 AM

Zesty has provided good info up to now... but these cycle costs...

WTF? These are the only cards in the set that use mana costs that are cannot be produced in a single shard. This makes them unplayable under the prerelease rules. (at least uncyclable). Sure those costs are not typos?

Rikente · 09-17-2008, 08:14 AM

That's kinda strange to see enemy tri-color in Alara...
I wouldn't have expected to see anything with a BGW activation cost...

heroicraptor · 09-17-2008, 08:14 AM

Ugh. No thanks.

Seingalt · 09-17-2008, 08:15 AM

Why are the cycling colours off shard ???

pandafarmer · 09-17-2008, 08:15 AM

Yeah, i guess I'm thrown about the Cycling costs... is that right Zest? 8?

But some nice big boom effects that will definately late game end things in limited.

**Caranthir** · 09-17-2008, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seingalt

Why are the cycling colours off shard ???

I was about to ask the same....

I guess that it should be the shard triads, with the central color in the manacost.

deudermont · 09-17-2008, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhyreMynd

The black one sucks hardcore. Might have been worth it at 1

with a cycling of 1

. but at 3 and 6, and as a sorcery it is completely worthless.

The rest are pretty good. Thanks, Zesty.

Can't you cycle at instant speed regardless of the card type?

09-17-2008, 08:04 AM	#1
zesty234 Experienced Mage Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 135	[ALA] Super Cyclers: Limited Hotness In Alara! Super Cyclers: These 5 spells that are in the new set, have amazing Limited Potential for the common slot (Cept for Black). But here is the Cycle of what I like to Call the "Super Cyclers" White - 3(W) Instant Remove target attacking creature from the game. Cycling (W)(G)(B)5: Remove up to 2 attacking Creatures from the game. Blue - 2(U) Instant Return target permanent to owners hand. Cycling (R)(G)(U)5: Return up to 2 permanents to owners hand. Black - 2(S) Sorcery Target Player Discards at random a card from their hand. Cycling (B)(R)(U)5: Target player discards 2 cards at random from their hand. Green - 1(G) Instant Target Creature gets +3/+3 until end of turn. Cycling (W)(G)(R)5: Target Creature gets +6/+6 until end of turn. Red - 2(R) Instant Target Creature or Player takes 3 Damage. Cycling (R)(G)(B)5: Target Creature or Player takes 6 Damage.

09-17-2008, 08:05 AM	#2
flappy [+1]: Exile target opponent Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,980	Justa hard way to cantrip.. __________________ Paparazzi Lady Gaga vs Xzibit (\_/) ( 0.0 ) =O () O= (")(") ÆGen: Aegis Booster Generator We Make the Set: Aegis Block

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Gloom Princess Ascended Mage Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 182	I guess the idea is that they cost a ton to cycle because the effects are game breaking late game, and you get a card out of it? Right? Seems expensive... __________________ Death inverts the red from romance.

09-17-2008, 08:14 AM	#8
jcsuperstar Archmage Overlord Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,211	People are complaining about these? I don't get it. In limited, each one except the black one is first-pickable. In constructed, the red is definitely playable and the blue and green may be as well. Of course the cycling costs are expensive! What do you expect to pay for getting twice the normal effect AND drawing a card? __________________ I'm a mathematics Ph.D. student studying complex systems. Learn about them here!

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Seingalt Ascended Mage Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dublin, Ireland. Posts: 244	Why are the cycling colours off shard ??? __________________ Waiting for a Mentor... Banner By Seingalt


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09-17-2008, 08:06 AM	#3
Zoidberg Wizard Mentor Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 535	I don't get it, cycle for 8???

09-17-2008, 08:09 AM	#6
Autarch Ascended Mage Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 248	I'm not sure how much these will see play based on how expensive their primary effects are. I could only see the red one seeing any volume of play. 3 burn for 3 isn't amazing, but the option to end the game in an uncounterable fashion is too much for me to resist. It's essentially the same for me as Molten Disaster - not used to kill creatures, but players.

09-17-2008, 08:09 AM	#7
V_Raziel Ascended Mage Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 322	The green and the red are good. Black is trash. White and blue... Ok... More or less ok... But the cost of each cycling... Auch

09-17-2008, 08:14 AM	#9
Tanthalas Half-Elven Archmage Overlord Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,254	Zesty has provided good info up to now... but these cycle costs... WTF? These are the only cards in the set that use mana costs that are cannot be produced in a single shard. This makes them unplayable under the prerelease rules. (at least uncyclable). Sure those costs are not typos?

09-17-2008, 08:14 AM	#10
Rikente Common Mage Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 39	That's kinda strange to see enemy tri-color in Alara... I wouldn't have expected to see anything with a BGW activation cost...

09-17-2008, 08:15 AM	#13
pandafarmer Squishypants Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 3,389	Yeah, i guess I'm thrown about the Cycling costs... is that right Zest? 8? But some nice big boom effects that will definately late game end things in limited. __________________ Special thanks to Spiderboy4 of [High~Light Studios] for the sig! EDH Enduring Ideal - EDH Orzhov/Esper Bleed Anyone can win with a good card. These Johnnies enjoy winning with bad ones. - MaRo

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